#daeron rock opera

[curiouselleth]

So I just came up with a Daeron rock opera

I am just vibrating with excitement over a new theory/possible project AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[emeraldskulblaka]

Alexander Rychkov in рок-опера Лэ о Лэйтиан / Lay of Leithian, the Rock Opera

as Finrod 2021 & 2022

as Daeron 2023

There is no victory without loss.

But I will go with you wherever you call.

[anna-dreamer]

И я горю на медленном огне - No you are not, you dumb drama queen you, Daeron. Honestly, how are you the best bard among the Sindar, dude! You are not some beef stew forgotten on a stove with heat set on minimum (because this is what медленный огонь is!) and now burning! Please be an ellon like you are - and медленно гори в огне, like the guy who got to marry your crush and whose metaphor from Finrod you are referencing here! Sheesh.

[coopsgirl]

So beautiful 🥰

The Lay of Leithian Rock-Opera ( x ) ∟ Daeron’s Song

Full song from the performance of 11 March, 2022. (Video by Елена Игнатьева, subtitles by me.)

[curufan]

Some of my favourite Lay of Leithian shots

[maellor]

LoL Luthien : Песнь заводит мой брат, соловей

(Translation: My brother, the nightingale, starts his song)

So this got me thinking... and perhaps i have hyper analysed this, but: her brother. Daeron??

I am aware that the opera goes with the version where they are not siblings.

But what if in the version where they are, Luthien used to call Daeron "nightingale"??

(This is why Daeron hates Beren, he was supposed to be the "Nightingale" all along)

[eldamaranquendi]

The Lay of Leithian rock opera by https://www.artstation.com/iorana1

1.  Vilena Sokolova as Luthien

2.  Mikhail Potekhin as Beren

3.  Maksim Rakovsky as Thingol

4.  Taria Baturina as Luthien

5.  Ekaterina Busygina as Melian

6.  Melian (The Lay of Leithian rock opera)

7.  Evgeny Kananykhin as Finrod

8.  Evgeny Gradusov as Daeron

[tolkien-feels]

Oh? What is this stream you speak of? 👀 That does sound like the ideal dynamic, absolutely 👀👀👀👀

This stream which I'm excited a normal amount about:

The first time I watched it I was halfway into Beren's first song when I started screaming to the whole group chat that I, too, would fight a werewolf for him. Don't get me started on Finrod, it's honestly embarrassing how emotional his duel with Sauron makes me, I may or may not have teared up the first time, let's not talk about it

Also featuring, among others: surprisingly catchy Angband, Melian telling Thingol to stop being Like That (which, relatable), Daeron playing a tiny violin of angst very well, Luthien making everybody cry by singing the words "strange wanderer", Huan Best Boy, and comedy Feanorians somehow

[aureentuluva70]

I had this idea a while ago and I might as well share it. It's basically the Lay of Leithian Rock Opera, exactly the same, but with one extra song.

The song is about Aegnor and Andreth, sung by Finrod, while Beren listens intently as his friend tells the tragic tale of the love of Aegnor and Andreth. As he sings Aegnor and Andreth dance together in the background, both wearing white clothes, a direct reference to Daeron's song where Beren and Luthien are also seen wearing white clothes. Beren watches the couple, amazed,, transfixed, and saddened by the vision he sees. It starts from their meeting at Lake Aeluin to their courtship to Aegnor's decision to leave Andreth, leaving Andreth heartbroken. She puts her hood over her head and walks offstage. It later cuts to Aegnor and Angrod fighting in the Battle of the sudden flame. Angrod falls, and Aegnor runs and kneels at his brother's side, his face torn with blood and grief, only to be shot in the back himself. He falls over next to his brother. Then a woman walks onstage, and runs over to Aegnor's side. It is Andreth, now an elderly woman. She cradles her once-lover in her arms. As she does so, Beren walks over to her side, and kneels down. He reaches his hand out to her, before remembering it is an only an illusion, and pulls back. The song ends, and the stage goes dark. When the lights come back on, Aegnor, Andreth, and Aegnor are gone, though Beren still kneels, his head bowed.

I was inspired by middle-earth mythopoeia where they suggested that Beren could have known about Aegnor and Andreth'a love, and who better to learn this from but from Finrod himself? The memory of Aegnor and Andreth's love must have played a big part in Finrod's decision to help Beren, and I think that he may have actually regretted encouraging Aegnor not to marry Andreth, and he sees helping Beren as an opportunity to make up for that, even if the quest itself is hopeless. It's both very sad yet very moving.

[myrtaceaae]

May be an unpopular opinion but I really like daeron in lay of leithian rock opera

[emeraldskulblaka]

Lay of Leithian Character Portraits

Daeron, Minstrel of Doriath

portrayed by Andrey Babich

Spring - and the heavens rejoice again. But not only love is alive, Her sister comes too - sorrow.

[anna-dreamer]

Continuing to NOT plan out that huge post about Finrod and Lay of Leithian, messing around with titbits instead. I was thinking about one common problem both rock operas have. Sometimes the lyrics would look fine on paper but create some confusion when sung to music. The core issue of it is that the text doesn't have enough means to convey the correct meaning without punctuation marks. So when we can't see those - weird stuff starts to happen. Take, for example, this line from Баллада Финрода к Амариэ - Но кольцо, что Берен принёс, - // Знак, что ты осталась права. Here the predicative expression знак, что ты осталась права goes without the usual demonstrative pronoun это. Since we traditionally don't use the verb быть in its present tense, это is an excellent shorthand for an audiovisual text to show that we have a subject+predicate pair going on. (See an example from Finrod itself: Для него любовь - это только повод.) Yet in our Амариэ case это is absent, and i would argue that the meaning of the ring being the sign gets somewhat lost. It might be due to the way music behaves there, but i really don't know anything about music. What i do know is that кольцо and знак sound equally like some homogeneous parts and like a subject+predicate pair. Амариэ's lyrics are hard enough to follow, so it is not too far-fetched to assume that people would get confused here. A more extreme example can be found in Melian's Prophecy. Just look at this. Она последует за ним, Кто ранил сердце ей любовью, Как в море лодка без ветрил. Они проклятый сильмарил Омоют собственною кровью! A bit of playing with five-line stanzas, a bit of (as far as i see it) unfortunate musical choices, and we get an amazing image of a boat that goes so feral without sails that it starts washing silmarils with its own blood. I mean, i would totally read about such a swanship OC.

When it comes to Lay of Leithian, we can find a similar case there. See the very beginning of Lúthien's song: Неподкованный конь - // Из-за гор тёплый ветер примчался с морей. Here неподкованный конь is a modifier for ветер, as we can see with the use of that dash, a bit liberal on the author's side. Now, when this song is performed, we can see no dash, and this неподкованный конь becomes... i don't even know. Is it in a separate sentence? Why is it mentioned at all? Is Lúthien singing about some random horse prancing around? Why is there a horse in the forest? But the thing is, i love how the stage production dealt with this problem. They got Lúthien play hide-and-seek with Daeron, and as she blindfolds him, she sings this line of неподкованный конь. It is implied that she teases Daeron by calling him a horse with no shoes, a wild thing with no one to shoe it. And it is cute and playful and sad, because of course he would love to be "shoed" by her. But that blindfold she gives him is not a sign of love, no matter how badly he wants it to be. It's only a tease. Yet he would not take no for an answer. The only thing he can do with this gift is to come with it to Thingol, showcasing his broken heart. And later in the musical this very blindfold symbolizes his fall into ruin. Love it! (Also, a bit of fangirling here, how cool it is that Daeron calls Lúthien blind, but it is him in fact who is blinded by his inability to recognize Lúthien's agency - and they literally use the imagery of blindness on stage. Compare it also with Finrod's Melian directly calling Thingol blind. Yaaaasss.) Another cool thing i wanna talk about happens in the same song. I love the line(s) Где-то рядом весна specifically because they sound like separate sentences but in actuality are not: Где-то рядом весна // ��онит прочь холода из лесов и полей and Где-то рядом весна // Одаряет листвою владенья свои. In truth, где-то рядом is a modifier for the verbs in our sentences - somewhere close, the spring is doing its springy thing. But it also sounds like a predicate for весна - the spring is so close, we can feel it, taste and smell it in that warm wind from the seas. We don't get the full picture until we hear the rest of the sentences, so for a moment it feels like we get both meanings at once. And it is beautiful. This, my dudes, is how you turn your awkward syntactic choices into literary devices.

[curiouselleth]

I'm starting to work on the first song!!!

So I just came up with a Daeron rock opera

I am just vibrating with excitement over a new theory/possible project AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[sewn-with-lilies-fair]

The Lay of Leithian Rock-Opera ( x ) ∟ Daeron's Song

Full song from the performance of 11 March, 2022. (Video by Елена Игнатьева, subtitles by me.)

[anna-dreamer]

OK so i wanna make a huuge post comparing Finrod and Lay of Leithian and how amazingly different they are. But i am rubbish at planning my own texts (decent at others' though!). So for now i'll just say i love this dumb spot in Daeron's departure from Doriath, Презрев меня, народ свой и отца, Она сбежала из дворца... Way to put an unintentional (i hope!) comical reference to a 70s kids cartoon based on Town Musicians of Bremen into a last tragic goodbye! That's an undesirable comedic effect if i've ever seen one. I mean, don't get me wrong, i would love a crack crossover, but i think it needs a better approach! Lay of Leithian's text is actually pretty sound tonally and very rarely makes a mistake like this. (A clearly comedic confrontation between Beren&Luthien and Celegorm&Curufin is, i believe, the only scene where the comedy is purposefully constructed on a textual level, and the whole scene is mostly consistent with it; see какой нам прок с этих тел?, Пошли бы вы... своим путем, Нольдорские доспехи сильно мне идут. The rest of the text is pretty straight-faced and performers are free to play with its meaning as they wish. Polina's production builds further on C&C's comedic potential, while Skadi's original monomusical creates a new dimension of the Storyteller where the majority or humour is generated.)