#daemyra BOOKS

[lanaisdoe]

Oh, yeah... for Daemon, Rhaenyra was the epitome of Targaryen perfection, the best he could ever had.

He literally revered her. (...and she revered him)

We have never seen him/heard of him openly worshipping anyone the way he did Rhaenyra. The man sang praises to her every chance he got, declaring her to be the fairest maiden of them all. He never declared anyone else the fairest one...

She was the first and the only woman whose hand he so fervently pleaded for and truly hoped to marry...

And he did not marry anyone else until Rhaenyra had been married off. And EVEN THEN he married the sister of Rhaenyra's husband...

Rhaenyra was the woman he and his new wife continued spending time with all throughout their marriages. She was THE woman Daemon apparently still wanted to marry all throughout the years because he actually married her the first chance he got.

She was the woman Daemon got pregnant either even before Laena's death or right after because it was the very same year Rhaenyra gave birth to Daemon's first son.

Rhaenyra was the ONLY woman Daemon married in the old valyrian blood-magic soul-binding ritual in the tradition of their house, going against all social conventions, against the crown and general appearances...

Rhaenyra was the one he crowned, served, killed for and fought war for. The one he ultimately willingly died for...

Imagine that kind of devotion...

Whenever I read about Daemon praising Rhaenyra's beauty and declaring her the most beautiful woman in all the Seven Kingdoms, this is all I can think of djkxzcw

[thesilverlady]

[thefourteenflames]

" When Prince Daemon sent forth his call to arms, they rose up all along the rivers, knights and men-at-arms and humble peasants who yet remembered the Realm's Delight, so beloved of her father, and the way she smiled and charmed them as she made her progress through the Riverlands in her youth. Hundreds and then thousands buckled on their swordbelts and donned their mail, or grabbed a pitchfork or a hoe and a crude wooden shield, and began to make their way to Harrenhal to fight for Viserys's little girl." — George R.R. Martin; Fire & Blood.

[lovedreamer11]

I don't believe in love between Harwin and Rhaenyra. I really don't. What did Harwin do for Rhaenyra in six years of relationship except conceive three illegitimate children? Nothing!

It seems to me that after Luke was born, and ideally after Jace was born, it was possible to understand that passing off obvious bastards as Laenor's legitimate sons was a bad idea. If Harwin was not going to break off his relationship with the princess, then they should at least think about the possibility of taking moon tea.

Even after Jace was born, rumors began to circulate about the boy's paternity and quiet insults to Rhaenyra and her reputation, and what does Harwin do when unpleasant things are said about his son and the woman he loves? He makes Rhaenyra two more sons. Although Rhaenyra is also to blame for this. She herself should have been more careful and circumspect.

Harwin also had three sons who called another man their father. Harwin watched his sons grow up thinking of him as an outsider, and again he did nothing. I think if Harwin truly loved Rhaenyra and his children, he would have killed Laenor long ago. It's not that hard. Laenor was not a warrior, and Harwin was a very strong man and spent a lot of time with Rhaenyra. It would have been enough to simply choose the moment when Laenor visited Rhaenyra and break his neck. If he had done it before Jace was born, then no one would have suspected him.

Note, when Daemon had the opportunity to marry Rhaenyra, he certainly took it. Moreover, if the probability is that Rhaenyra was already pregnant with Aegon. Daemon did not wait for the birth of the child and watch his son consider another man the father. He did what Harwin should have done when Rhaenyra became pregnant with Jace.

And then we have Rhaenyra. During the period when Daemon and Laena live in Essos, Rhaenyra spends a lot of time with Harwin and gives birth to a new child almost every year, but after Daemon's return and the beginning of Rhaenyra's friendship with Laena, there is some kind of pause in the relationship between the princess and the knight. Moreover, Rhaenyra marries shortly after Harwin's death.

Personally, this is my opinion. Rhaenyra and Harwin just had sex. They were comfortable and convenient with each other, and perhaps they were happy together, but they were not the love of each other's lives. Harwin does nothing to protect Rhaenyra's reputation and his sons, and Rhaenyra forgets about her lover after Daemon's return.

[blissfulphilospher]

So, I don't know why I am posting this but I had this in my heart since a long time. So, bear with me.

I read Princess and the Queen and Fire and Blood back in 2019, after GoT ended for more content. And I got to know about The Dance from Tumblr, the awesome artists and fanarts.

When I read those books, I felt for Rhaenyra. No I don't have a step mother but Rhaenyra felt alone, like her mother died and her father remarried, her new step mom was first kind and loving but then after a brother all that changed.

I can't blame book Rhaenyra for not having good relationship with her siblings, she was a child, just like them and the world was trying to replace her with them just as her mother had been replaced. (When my brother was born, I felt the same and we don't have the best relationship even now, but you know whose fault is that? Adults. Adults who love to compare and pity siblings against siblings)

Why Viserys never tried to mend the relationship between his eldest son and daughter? Even Alicent tried. And then Daemon evidently manipulated Rhaenyra more to hate her siblings for his own benefit. He was pushed down in succession. (He should never have been in succession)

Then Rhaenyra grows older, bold and doing as she like, fighting her step mother, beefing with her siblings and people are following her. She is being courted and has freedom in that era.

I liked book Rhaenyra because she seemed ruthless. She wasn't trying to pretend being good, she was ambitious, she was fighting for the throne because her father chose her. Not because of a stupid prophecy. We all know how that ended. She wanted the throne. (I will eat my brother alive if my father chose me for something and not him). She was unhinged.

And I liked that about her. I liked Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen. She was greatly flawed, she offered her brothers for Laenor, she fed a man to her dragon, she hosted a lavish feast in a starving city, she was a woman and let men do the fighting. She was a mother and did everything to protect her children (foolishly though). She faced death with bravery and didn't begged and didn't offered negotiation, didn't ran. A true dragon. Like those menacing cruel dragons?

And then HotD gave us...

1) 'I rather serve as a knight and ride to battle and glory' but she isn't train with swords. If she wants that then why isn't she trained? Was this to appease Arya's fans? Also this message of feminism, 'a woman only cool and worth something when she wants to be like men, Do what men does.' I am not saying this is bad but you are making her a feminist atleast let her appreciate females? Also, again, if she wanted to train with swords then why didn't she? Nobody stopped Visenya and Alyssa, no one would have stopped her.

2) On Aegon's nameday, enough people have said that already, Rhaenyra being mean to her two year old brother and acting like a spoilt child but I want to add this—

Everyone came there for Aegon, hoping Viserys will name him heir. HotD gave us Rhaenyra acting like a brat and then killing a boar and totally projecting her as a protagonist by showing White Hart, and sexy cool asf covered with blood. She could have made alliance, like book Rhaenyra would have mingled with everyone, dressed better than everyone, charming everyone. Not arguing with other ladies and lords.

3) Daemyra. Enough said. I never thought Book Rhaenyra and Book Daemon had any great love story, they were not even written as such. Nah, Rhaenyra desired Criston, tried to seduce him first. Daemon was only using her. He had one healthy relationship in the book and that was with Laena. They both came together because none of them considered Alicent and her children as their family too.

I hate this show for promoting them as some great tragic love. Nah, Rhaenyra needed his protection and Daemon wanted to be closer to the throne. Why didn't they let them be that? How are they going to justify as to why Daemon left Rhaenyra and his son alone to go die along with Aemond?

And if Daemyra is a great tragic love story why they got afraid to show Rhaenyra having Laenor murdered? Because that was the level of her craziness in the books, and that's in the character of Daemyra. That's 'I will do anything to be with you, for you' energy.

Gods, I thought Rhaenyra would be Cersei Lannister level in HotD, cool, snarky, awesome, beautiful, unhinged, fashion icon, doing everything for her children, doing everything for her and not shying away from the person she is, a necessary evil (like feeding Vaemond to Syrax). And incestuous. Of course Jaime x Cersei level of craziness in Daemyra?

In HotD... Emma and Milly did awesome job but their character was bland. Served to us by writers as 'a goody two shoes always right'. 'she can do nothing wrong.'

Why is media afraid of showing what women are? Why can we only be 'goody two shoes, patriarchy bad, I am awesome cause I am not like other girls' in feminist shows? Why can't they women as humans, as grey, ambitious? Why can't woman be anti hero? Rhaenyra is suffering from stereotyped blend of Arya and Dany.

Alicent is a fresh breath in that regard. But I hate the show for stripping away her agency and making her a crybaby. You are showing me that the Queen, who may or not have murdered Viserys, cried for him? That her, who plotted and plotted and led the Greens, crowned her daughter would not want her son to be king?

They even changed the dinner scene, everyone was supposed to make fun of the other party. No heartwarming and Aegon was supposed to fight Jace.

But make two female characters cry over each other, cry over men, abuse them, strip their agency, make the person you are trying to show as protag (she should not even be a protag) blander than water and call it a feminist show.

(HotD should not even be a feminist show, it should have been a family drama show. Imagine my embarrassment when I told my brother that I love Rhaenyra and I am just like her before the show started and by the end I was like ... Wow Aegon Second of His Name, I stan the One True King. Because he, despite they made him a monster is more interesting than Rhaenyra at this point.)

I was robbed. We were robbed of spicy hot pizza and instead given a bland cheese toast.

I refuse to eat bread, give me cake. Cersei, Margaery, Catelyn were cake, Alicent... She is the cookie. (Not adding Sansa because in the end of the show... Book Sansa is pastry.)

At this moment we all most cope. Thank you whoever read this. Also wanted to add, I was Team Woman but I can't stan this Rhaenyra. Nah.

[marysblo0d]

“Daemon has suffered enough”

You mean the same man who groomed not one but two of his female relatives? The same one who beat his first wife to death with a rock because he wanted to marry his niece? The same one who ordered the death of an innocent child because he was too much of a coward to face his 17 year old nephew? The one who neglected his daughter because she did not have and dragon and therefore is no use to him? The one who celebrated the death of his nephew and sister-in-law because it meant less people in his way on his quest for power? The same man who abandoned his wife when she was miscarrying their child to plan a war without her permission and then chokes her directly after? That motherfucker could have waking nightmares for the rest go his godamn life and still not suffer enough for even one of the things he did!

[lanaisdoe]

Then where was this in the final cut, writers? The book says Daemon was there by Rhaenyra’s side when she gave birth to their child. But none of it was there in the tv show, all you showed us is a stupid choke scene?

[rougesdelight]

i get pissed off whenever i see people saying that rhaenyra was bi and that she was in a relationship with laena or that daemon, rhaenyra and laena were in poly relationship, or that daemon only loved laena and that was his healthiest relationship like what are you people even reading at this point.... the truth is daemyra were together as soon as their lovers dropped dead (maybe even before that), had a son not even nine months after laena died, daemon killed laena's brother to marry rhaenyra and they were criticised by everyone but it was not true love and they married for politics apparently and were only mourning their dead lovers😔

[ilreleonewikiart]

Rhaenyra and Daemon for the @fkaluis challenge

“I resent you because you made me love you in a way I never wanted to love someone that not my children or my father. You made me unable to so much as think badly of you, even in thoughts.” - The Blacks and the Greens by @sweetestpopcorn on AO3

[lady-corrine]

I love, love, love you fanfic writers that have Rhaenyra gaining weight or getting fat or having stretch marks or having her exceptionally large bosom, while portraying her as desirable and lovable and the most beautiful woman and having Daemon adore and worship and kiss and praise every inch of her 🩷🫂

[lady-whistledowns]

"Amongst those cheering loudest was Princess Rhaenyra, who was thrilled at the return of her favorite uncle and begged him to stay awhile."

DaemyraWeek2023: Day 3 - Book To Screen

[amorvincitomniamore]

get yourself a man, who's ready to start a war for you :)

[atroppbelladonna]

Ruin me, ruin us, and I'll let you.

— a daemyra playlist, listen here.

[bbygirl-aemond]

daemon when his attempt to ruin teenage rhaenyra's reputation so he could marry her backfired and viserys ordered her to marry the gay velaryon boy instead:

[raysthingsx]

going on to the fire and blood tag and seeing hotd posts is genuinely heartbreaking.

Unless they are posts shitting on hotd and how its terrible compared to f&b

[lovedreamer11]

What kind of love affair are we talking about between Daemon and Nettles?

This man has a type. Think about the main women in Daemon's life. Hot in her youth Mysaria from Lys, Valyrian hot beauty Laena, Realm's Delight - Rhaenyra. Thin, dark-haired with crooked teeth and a scar on her nose, foul-mouthed Nettles, who grew up on the streets, did not know how to wash herself properly and how to use a comb, is somehow very different from the women listed above.

And besides, Daemon is GRRM's favorite Targaryen. He strives to give his favorite character the best. Daemon got an epic death, he was a legend, his children lived, his sons and grandsons were kings. GRRM also gave Daemon the most beautiful women. I would believe in a romance between Daemon and Nettles if Nettles was described as some kind of unrealistically beautiful demigoddess. I feel like if GRRM wanted to give Daemon a young lover, he would have created someone like Shiera Seastar rather than Nettles.

And why does young Nettles need a fifty-year-old married man who has daughters just a couple of years younger than Nettles herself?

I'm not sure that Daemon and Nettles were in a romantic relationship and that what was written in the chronicles was true. People often tried to describe Rhaenyra as worse than she actually was. Rhaenyra was constantly being followed, watching what she eats, who she communicates with, how she dresses, Septon Eustace tried to count how many times Rhaenyra had sex with Laenor, and Mushroom told everyone his sexual fantasies about Rhaenyra and assured that it was true. Rhaenyra was gossiped about and slandered in everything: her appearance, the sexual preferences of her first husband, the circumstances of the birth of her children. During the war, all possible gossip began to be created about her second marriage.

Then no. I definitely don't believe Daemon and Nettles were in love with each other.