#dadt repealed

[pollyna]

One of Ice's favourite things after they repeal DADT is that he can kiss Mav when he laughs, head tilted back, and all his being seems to tell you he's happy. And Ice knows that if he can kiss him, he would taste pure, unadulterated, joy. He doesn't kiss Mav very often when they are in their uniform, but sometimes he closes the distance between them and kiss him, softly and slowly, and yeah, yeah, his mouth really tastes like joy and Ice can't help but laugh too.

[084thoughts]

Don’t think about Micheal Grant attending the Henren wedding, married to Athena with two kids, thinking he could never have the same thing for himself. Imagine if they had May be their flower girl, standing up at the alter with best man Chimney. Before the ceremony, Athena’s reminiscing on their wedding. They’ve been together for over decade. Harry is little, only 3 years old. May is beaming at Hen and Karen in their wedding outfits, holding her little bouquet. And Micheal feels like a fraud.

[justinspoliticalcorner]

David Badash at NCRM:

Pete Hegseth, President-elect Donald Trump’s controversial pick to oversee the Department of Defense and its 3.4 million military and civilian personnel, has a long history of anti-LGBTQ statements. According to multiple reports, Hegseth has opposed gay service members, labeling them a threat to military standards and a part of a “Marxist” agenda promoting “social engineering.” “At least when it was an ‘Army of One,’ they were, you know, tough looking, go get ���em army – but you’re right, that was the subtle shifting toward an individual ad campaign,” Hegseth told far-right podcaster Ben Shapiro, CNN reports. “Now you just have the absurdity of ‘I have two mommies and I’m so proud to show them that I can wear the uniform too.’ So they, it’s just like everything else the Marxists and the leftists have done. At first it was camouflaged nicely and now they’re just, they’re just open about it.” Hegseth, now a former Fox News weekend co-host under fire for alleged sexual assault, alcohol abuse, an affinity for Christian nationalism, and mismanagement of two veterans’ charities, has repeatedly denigrated gays and lesbians, and expressed opposition to LGBTQ Americans serving in the U.S. Armed Forces, and women serving in the military — especially in combat roles.

“In his 2024 book ‘The War on Warriors’ and in subsequent media promotions this year. Hegseth described both the original ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ (DADT) policy and its repeal in 2011 as a ‘gateway’ and a ‘camouflage’ for broader cultural changes that he claims have undermined military cohesion and effectiveness,” CNN reports. Studies before and after the repeal of DADT have proven LGBTQ service members serving openly do not diminish unit cohesion or impair military readiness. “The repeal of DADT has had no overall negative impact on military readiness or its component dimensions, including cohesion, recruitment, retention, assaults, harassment or morale,” a Palm Center report found one year after DADT repeal.

As MeidasTouch News reported Wednesday, Hegseth has “argued that allowing women and openly gay and lesbian individuals to serve undermines the readiness and effectiveness of the armed forces. He dismissed these inclusivity efforts as ‘social engineering’ aimed at satisfying political agendas rather than improving national security. In his words, the changes were about achieving symbolic milestones, such as having a female Navy SEAL, rather than maintaining operational excellence.”

Potential Trump Department of Defense nominee Pete Hegseth has repeatedly criticized the repeal of the homophobic Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy and opposed the inclusion of LGBTQ+ military service members (along with his longstanding opposition of allowing women to serve).

See Also:

The Advocate: Pete Hegseth really doesn’t like LGBTQ+ people in the military

The Signorile Report: Pete Hegseth says allowing gays to serve was "gateway" to undermining military

CNN: Pete Hegseth, Trump’s Defense pick, says allowing gay troops to serve openly reflects a "Marxist" agenda

[friend-lover-traitor-narrator]

oooohhhhh for the fanfic ask thingie, give me 6 and 32!

Ohh, thank you for the ask!! Here are my answers:

6. What's the last line you wrote?

I'll give you a bit more than just one line. This is from my upcoming DADT repeal fic.

“I know what an iPad is, Mav. I don’t live behind the moon,” Ice retorts sharply. “Just wanted to be sure. So what do you say?” Mav replies with a shrug, completely unimpressed with Ice snapping at him like this.

32. Do you take fic requests? Why or why not?

BIG YES!!! I do take fic requests!

Last month I wrote much less than the months before (mostly because life) but I think I'm slowly getting back at it and writing more again.

I'd generally take fic requests for anything icemav or hangster and I'd love to get more requests for my Californian Country Boys series which is hangster fics based on (country) songs!

So, yes, please fire away your fic requests if you have any!

[the-fallen-blue]

We, as a queer community, really need to get better at teaching our history to our youngest members. Because you cannot go forward without knowing where you have been, because you cannot know what you have if you don't know what it cost, and because I never want to see another damn fic where a character who lived through the 80s and 90s in the military acts like Don't Ask, Don't Tell was some cruel oppressive assault on their rights that they hate and resent their superiors for.

[princesssarcastia]

Chapter 2 is up!

Summary:

Man hands on misery to man.

Or: The Kazansky kids (plus Bradley Bradshaw) and life as children of polyamorous divorce.

It's 2010, and the Senate, the DOD, the Joint Chiefs, the President, and all and sundry are debating whether to finally repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

Sofia Kazansky, watching all of this unfold, has a question for her mother.

Excerpt:

It takes Sofia all afternoon to ask the question; it sits in the back of her throat like gorge till she can’t help but spit it out. School is where she heard about this in the first place. Heard some of her classmates talking about this like it’s a game, or like it’s sickening, or like it doesn’t matter. Talk, talk, talk. All Sofia could do was sit there and listen and hope the pit of dread that opened up in her stomach wasn’t written all over her face.

[friend-lover-traitor-narrator]

After reading this post a couple of weeks ago, I started thinking about a DADT repeal fic.

What can I say- I've largely plotted this thing out. 4 chapters, maybe one bonus chapter.

It's gonna be fluff, hopefully a bit funny, maybe a bit emotional and quite a couple of old friends will make an appearance.

Who's interested?

give me icemav fluff and angst, give me celebrating when gay marriage is legalised. going to pride together, finally being able to kiss at work. give me them growing old together, loving each other through sickness and in health. i want more of them. loving each other. please. mav needs more happiness in his life

[astramthetaprime]

They just keep falling out

This one is short and sweet and I was ugly-crying while writing it.  

The Answer is Yes

https://archiveofourown.org/works/44699827

[needforspeed161]

Hey Admiral

My friend and I were talking about a scenario like this and I decided to write a little something for it. Since Cyclone looks up to Ice so much this would be hilarious to see play out 😂

CYCLONE DOESNT REALIZE ICE AND MAV ARE MARRIED.

Cyclone had it up to HERE with Maverick, constantly correcting him and becoming quite irritable with his “teaching methods” as he called them.

Why on earth a man as revered as the legendary Iceman would request a man as reckless and untamed as Maverick to teach the top pilots in the world at TOP GUN OF ALL PLACES! For what he is sure would be one of the most dangerous, high enemy contact level mission any of these pilots would ever experience in their lives was beyond him.

“Admiral” Ice spoke, taking a seat across from him, Beau stood at attention as the COMPACFLT seated himself before him.

“Evening sir” he spoke, militant as ever.

“So to what do I owe the pleasure” Ice waved a waitress over, grabbing a glass of his classic vodka on the rocks as Cyclone opted for a brandy.

“About Maverick…”

The warm chuckle that spread throughout the blonde, now graying, Admirals chest stopped the three star in his tracks.

“My apologies sir, I wasn’t intending to be comical”

“No Beau it’s not that” Ice took a gentle sip from his drink, tongue darting out to wet his lips. “It’s just that if I had a dollar for everytime one of these dinners or meetings began with ‘so about Maverick’ I could have retired 10 years ago and have two Mercedes in my driveway”

Beau looked at his hands momentarily, unsure of what to say. Soon Tom continued.

“Anyways, I digress, what did he do this time”

Ices softer stare met his colleagues as he took another drink, before looking down at the menu on the soft white table cloth.

“His training methods for the Dagger squadron are….interesting to say the least, unorthodox is the better term.”

“Oh? Do tell”

“For instance, they were supposed to be practicing formations for the bombing run yesterday and I found them playing on the beach like children”

“Hm” Ice grunted softly, paying attention as the waitress came by again, interrupting them.

“Good evening sir” she spoke with a small smile at Tom. “Your usual sir?” Tom nodded

“Thank you Katherine, Beau? Care to order?”

Cyclone didn’t think to hard as to why Ice knew this woman, and frequented this place often enough to have established a ‘usual’. Ice was the COMPACFLT, he probably enjoyed some nicer expensive dining from time to time.

“No green eyes tonight?” She asked, and Tom shook his head. “No my dear, all buisness tonight”

She frowned slightly and put her hands on her hips. “Well darn, please tell him I said hello, I’ll go put your order in gentlemen.”

“I definitely will, Thank you my dear” Ice waved as she disappeared, rounding the corner.

Cyclone decided not to comment, first of all he and Ice were close but not so close as to ask questions about his love life. Let alone the fact that it was apparently another gentleman he often frequented this place with. Who was he to judge, since the DADT repeal and Ice becoming one of the most powerful men in the military, no one could say shit even if they had a mouthful.

“Apologies for the interruption, as you were saying?”

Beau cleared his throat. “Yes, sir, he completely ignored my hard deck perameters and is running these pilots through ridiculous exercises, we have less than a week to have them mission ready…”

Their conversation went on for a couple more hours as they ate, and as they both stood to leave Ices hand found Cyclones shoulder.

“I know Captain Mitchell can be a hard pill to swallow sometimes, but he’s a brilliant pilot, best the Navy has to offer, I’ve flown with him for many years, and he’s done many things I may not have understood, but he was always reliable, always had his head in the game and always made sure everyone, including me, made it back home safe. Be patient with him Admiral, give him a shot”

Cyclone huffed out in annoyance slightly, but let his shoulders fall. “Yes sir, I’ll do my best”

“Thanks Beau” Tom spoke, dropping the formalities. “And thank you for the company, but I’m a little past curfew and need to get home” Ice winked, Bidding him goodbye and getting in his car to head home.

—————————————————————————

The next day seemed even worse, Admiral Simpson was being driven up a wall, two seconds away from punching the brunette square in the face. If not for Ices encouragement he probably would have by now.

That evening he returned to the ready room to see, SHOCKER! EVERYONE WAS GONE!

Anger rose in his throat, he knew exactly where he was going.

Throwing his truck in park in perhaps the most aggressive way he could, the man, still clad in his khakis and medals, stormed in through the swinging saloon doors of the Hard deck, seeing all of his pilots and one infuriating Pete Mitchell drinking beers and playing rounds of pool.

Laughing, smiling and joking together, if he weren’t so angry he would have liked to admit that it even looked….fun.

“CAPTAIN MITCHELL!” He shouted. As if on cue the music came to a winding stop and all heads turned to look at him.

Pete not looking worried in the slightest.

“FRONT AND CENTER! NOW!”

Handing off his beer to Bradley with a nod, sharing a quiet word with him that couldn’t be made out clearly. He walked towards the angry, taller brunette. As the rest of the gang tentatively went back to playing pool, quietly, as if walking on eggshells.

“Admiral Simpson, sir” Maverick spoke. Smug grin on his face long gone and replaced with a tight line drawn between his lips.

“What in the hell is this?! We have a mission less

Than TWO WEEKS out that requires absolute focus! And before you try and brush this off as one of your bullshit ‘team building exercises’ just know I’m going to look forward to reporting this directly to admiral Kazansky! And-“

“Reporting what exactly to Admiral Kazansky?” A voice spoke, interrupting his statement, as the taller, angrier man turned to see the familiar face returning with two drinks in his hand.

Immediately straightening his posture and clearing his throat. He took in a very casually dressed Tom Kazansky.

“A-Admiral sir!”

“At ease Admiral, so what did Maverick do this time”

His eyes followed the movements of the slightly taller man, coming up to stand beside Pete, handing him a beer.

As Cyclone began to go into what he saw.

“Is that so Mitchell? Little old you did all that?” Ice threw his arm around Mavericks shoulder. Seeing the smug smile return to his lips.

“I can neither confirm or deny that statement” Maverick chuckled.

“My apologies on behalf of my husband Admiral, it seems he wasn’t aware of todays training layout”

Cyclones jaw may as well have been on the floor, throat tightening at a loss of words.

“H-husband sir?”

“Ah!” Ice almost looked surprised.

“How rude of me Admiral, I’d like to formally introduce you to my husband, Pete Mitchell-Kazansky, though for work purposes everyone still knows him by Mitchell.”

Just at this time Bradley walked up behind them.

“Hey dad, pops” he squeezed both of their shoulders and looked at Admiral Simpson. “Admiral”

“Lieutenant” he scoffed in return. Still attempting to process all of this new information.

“Wait so, at the restaurant, the waitress, green eyes is-“

“The one and only” maverick smirked, leaning up to give his husband a kiss on the cheek.

“Now Admiral, if you don’t mind we’d like to get back to our game, you’re welcome to join us if you’d like.” Ice invited, gesturing his head towards the rest of the squad.

Cyclones mouth open and closed again. Unsure of what to do next.

“Cmon Sir, first rounds on me, loosen up a little” Bradley smiled, eyes bright and hopeful. As Cyclone turned to the rest of the team, smiling at him as well.

“I guess one drink couldn’t hurt….but I’m kicking your ass at a game of pool first Bradshaw”

As the two men walked back towards the pool tables, newly acquired beers in hand and jokes being flung back and fourth. Maverick pulled ice against his side by his waist. Smiling up at him with big green eyes, clinking his beer against the taller man’s glass.

“This is going to be fun” he smiled.

“Couldn’t agree more darling”

[atimeofyourlife]

I would love to see a Karen and Tommy moment. Have them talk about how they were both directly, but differently, affected by DADT.

Tommy being affected because he was a closeted gay man whose entire service was under DADT, based on what we know of the show's timeline. Having to hide and repress his sexuality in fear of being found out and being discharged because of it, and the stigma and difficulties that would follow him with that type of discharge.

Karen being affected because she gave up on her dream of becoming an astronaut because of DADT. This is mentioned briefly in Tomorrow (s6e6), when she says "they don't let people like us go to space." In the same episode, it shows the moment Karen and Hen find out when DADT was getting repealed.

Them having the moment with someone who gets it. Getting to talk about how they were affected by DADT and how it shaped their futures.

[pollyna]

The funniest thing the whole ordeal is that after the DADT is repealed and they get married, in front of a clerk, with witnesses, their friends and legal papers signed and done, it gets on their files to. They are married, and it's legitimate, and the Navy knows.

Or at least they should know if anybody would bother looking at the general information about them, but nobody ever does because it is more interesting knowing how many times Mav has been grounded or how fast Ice reached the Admirality than knowing when they were born or if they are married.

So, they are as out and about as possible, and still, people are shocked when, during the Navy Ball of 2016, they walk in hand in hand and start introducing the other as their husband.

(It's the first even they even have the time to participate together since 2011, so it's even funnier to see people's reactions when they discover they've been married for five years already.)

[polar-equinoxx]

Every single time Mav crashes post dadt repeal:

silly little sketch animatic :3

[swantales-aw0owo0]

Just a little something I’ve been cooking (attempting to write a secretly married hangster fic so I figured out an entire timeline pre-Tg:m cause the timeline is kinda fucked in the movies)

Bradley is born in ‘84 (June 27)

Jake is born in ‘87 (January 3)

Top gun takes place in ‘86

Carole dies in ‘96 (Bradley moves in with Ice and Mav)(he’s 12)

Bradley’s papers are pulled, he begins to attend UCSD (University of California San Diego), and he stops talking to Mav in ‘02

(College in the fall of ‘02)

Jake, Javy, and Natasha all attend the US Naval Academy in Annapolis together. Jake and Javy bunk together and become fast friends/brothers. Nat becomes friends with Javy but can’t get past Jake’s persona to get along with him. ‘05

Bradley graduates with a bachelor’s degree in PoliSci and a minor in History spring of ‘06

Bradley and Jake meet in the summer of ‘06 right before Bradley goes to flight school and after Jake’s first year at the Naval Academy in Annapolis.

Bradley then goes to Pensacola for 18 months (‘06-‘07) continuing to meet up with Jake whenever possible

Bradley gets stationed at the Naval Base San Diego from ‘07-‘08

Bradley is invited to and wins Top Gun in ‘08 before being sent to the Naval Air Station Jacksonville

Jake, Javy, and Nat all graduate from the Naval Academy in ‘08 and then spend 18 months in Pensacola for flight school (‘08-‘09)

Javy and Jake are stationed together

Nat gets stationed with Bradley who’s heard his boyfriend (husband) complaining about her and befriends her.

Jake, Javy, and Nat all attend Top Gun together in ‘09 and Bradley is sent back to NAS San Diego. This is when Nat finds out about their relationship. Jake scrapes a win at top gun, very closely followed by Nat then Javy.

December 18 ‘10 DADT is repealed

They fly up to Vermont to get married in a courthouse and then “honeymoon” in NY December 21 ‘11 after taking time off for Christmas. Javy and Nat attend as their best man/woman and witnesses

The four get stationed on the USS. George Washington where the “rivalry” between Jake and Bradley is established from their banter over comms and on the carrier. They spend 18 months there before they’re all split up. (‘11-‘12)

Over the next 8 years the four are moved around occasionally stationed with each other. Jake and Bradley have a house together in Cali (Bradley’s parents house) for any free time they have.

From ‘20 onward Jake is flying with the Vigilantes out of Lemoore and Bradley is on board the USS Theodore Roosevelt flying with the Golden Warriors.

‘22 TG:M (Bradley is 38, Jake is 35, Mav is 60)

I spent a long time on the logistics of years and math so if you see any mistakes no you didn’t <3

[gaydaroreilly]

Thinking about that one story from back when DADT was repealed where a guy saw two older veterans and was like “the fuck are they doing letting homo openly serve” and the two old vets were like bro we’re the homos and we’d have loved to openly serve and then the other guy died of shame or whatever. But I think about that a lot and think of Icemav

[friend-lover-traitor-narrator]

Flufftober 2024 - Day 8: Secret Relationship

Shortly after DADT is repealed it's no secret to anyone anymore that the very close friendship between Admiral Kazansky and Captain Mitchell has always been more than that - and of course, Mav is responsible for that.

Ice doesn't want to make a big fuss about it. They are nothing special. Even in the Navy there are tons of same sex couples. So why make a big deal out of it?

And Mav agrees. He totally does. They don't have to make a big deal out of it. That doesn't stop him though from visiting Ice in his office at the end of the repeal day, just to kiss him hello in the hallway, just to take his hand and just to walk out of the building holding the hand of the man he loves. Just because he can now.

Ice blushes all the way. For him, even these little signs of affection feel like a big deal, like the big deal he didn't want. That doesn't stop him though from pushing Mav on the backseat of his car, kissing him senseless and promising him more as soon as they're home because God, his fiance is hot and it's hot that they don't have to hide anymore. Yes, it's not very professional to make out in the parking lot on base but the windows of his car are tinted and on a day like this he allows himself to be just a tiny bit unprofessional because maybe he doesn't want to make a fuss about it but that doesn't change that the repeal already is a big deal all by itself and he couldn't be happier that they don't have to be a secret anymore.

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prompts by @thepenultimateword

[1001aus]

okayokayokay last bit of unsolicited flailing I am most definitely not stealing your idea I won't be writing this it's just giving me brainrot

Ice convinces the Pentagon that they're time travelers. He wants wanted to be an admiral and to that end spent a lot of time studying the history and evolution of modern warfare. He knows dates and names and locations which is convincing because why would a spy know so much about every front of the war? What the Japanese are doing and the Germans and the Russians and and and.

But little of that information is useful even if it's convincing. What good does it do them to know Operation Overlord will be a success or the exact day Italy surrenders? How does it help them to know the name of the man who will demystify the enigma machine?

It's Mav who convinces the Pentagon they can be useful. There isn't a plane flown by any military that he doesn't know something about. For the more common ones—his knowledge of the planes flown by the Luftwaffe and Japanese Imperial pilots are especially interesting to them—Mav knows how fast they are, how much force they can withstand, what kind of weapons they usually carried and with how much ammo.

Once he's been questioned for every scrap of information he can remember about planes it's decided that they're already commissioned navy officers and pilots so they may as well take advantage of their competence. It helps that Mav wants to fly so badly he'll agree to just about anything and Ice won't leave his wingman to his own devices.

Ice has put the pieces together already about Blizzard and Wild Thing.

For him the comparison was always complimentary so he didn't fight it as much. He didn't train himself to dismiss all thought of the famous aviators so it's easy for him to read the writing on the wall even before they get their new callsigns. He already knows they won't make it to the end of the war.

Maverick gets blindsided when they get their names painted onto their new planes. Even then he doesn't quite put the pieces together.

I had the goddamned strangest dream which led to a weird story idea but I have no clue if I'll ever get around to writing it:

TimeTravel!AU where post Layton IceMav end up back in time in WWII, and after convincing the US that they're not spies (Ice: I'm a goddamned Polish Jew you think I'd willingly spy for the Axis? Interrogator: That's fair) they convince the Navy to let them fly for them.

It's a little rocky at first, having to get used to much slower aircraft, but once Ice and Mav settle in, they're deadly. Their kill counts quickly soar past Ace to Ace-of-Aces, with whoever is in the top spot swapping dogfight to dogfight.

It takes three years for the Luftwaffe to finally take out the two deadliest pilots to ever fly, sacrificing 20 of their brand new jet fighters to bring them down, losing over half in the process.

Iceman and Maverick wake back up in the future and finally understand why everyone had always compared them to the legendary WWII pilots 'Blizzard' and 'Wild Thing'.