#dad Rayleigh

[princessbutler1316]

Shanks: I'M THE MOST FEARED PIRATE! NOBODY WILL STOP ME!

Rayleigh, with a chancla in his hand: Say that again, young man!

[reineydraws]

i think a side effect of loving mishanks for many people is becoming very endeared by the "rayleigh is mihawk's parent" au's haha :') first one's part of this fic i posted where smolhawk challenges rayleigh to a duel ⚔️✨️ second one's just a random kid!mishanks doodle. i think their shenanigans (incl buggy!) would be cute.

[kacievvbbbb]

I love how extreme found family is in one piece. Like they took supernatural line of "Family don't end in blood" and actually made good on it. Because it's not just that the crew found each other even before that only really very briefly Robin, Usopp and Luffy could say that anyone biologically related to them raised them.

Like Luffy had Garp and that's his grandpa but he also had Makino and Shanks and the red hair pirates and they were a family unit and he also had Ace, Sabo Dandan and the bandits and they were a family as well and it's never who mattered more to Luffy or who actually raised him cause they all did. It'd be hard to put him in a nuclear family structure because so many people fill the same roles in his life in different ways and that's great like Kung Fu panda said "that doesn't mean less for one parent it just means more for Luffy"

And that's the thing I think sometime fandom can get very obsessive with trying to pin down who is whose surrogate father/mother how do they fit in the nuclear family structure and while that's fun and there's nothing wrong with head cannon characters that way I also think it's important to remember that not every relationship needs a title or definition sometimes you are just family and that's valid too.

Ace had Luffy and Garp but he also had the whitebeard pirates and his pops same with Sabo and the revolutionaries

Zoro with Kuina and his old kendo master, that was maybe more of a rivals, mentor mentee relationship than whatever Mihawk Zoro and Perona had going on but it's all family none the less.

Chopper with Hiririluk and Kureha. Perona and Moria, Usopp with the little village boys and Kaya. Shanks and Buggy with the Roger Pirates. They might not all have had defined roles with each other but it was still family.

Just like Sanji, Nami, Franky and Law and their more defined Surrogate familes

And people like Vivi Robin Usopp and Shirahoshi who had/have their biological parents/family that love them and raised them.

It's nobody that I've just mentioned properly fitting squarely into any of these categories because it's all complicated family is complicated and its messy and it's big and everyone in your family might not have even met but it's family and it doesn't end in blood and for some people it never started there either.

[kalofi]

guess who’s not winning father of the year award !!!

[cipher-zoo]

Rayleigh: *at Roger's 'grave'* Our boys are doing pretty well for themselves. Shanks is one of the most infamous pirates in all the seas.

Rayleigh: And I'm pretty sure Buggy is running a cult.

[shuggymaniac]

Toddler!Shanks & Todller!Buggy: Where do babies come from? Rayleigh: when an adventurous captain makes the ultimate decision to ruin his crew's lives by taking 2 babies on board, because the thought of "tiny pirates" was funny to him.

[inpolariis]

Confessions / Stowaway

Fourth day of @rogerpirateswk

[archevister]

MISSING RAYLEIGH LIKE A MF

[one-idea]

So in cannon Shanks mentions Luffy to Rayleigh when he stops at Sabaody one time. Does Shanks talk about all 3 now or do they happen upon Grandpa Ray??

Oh grandpa Ray for sure.

I had to take a pause on my watch through because of somethings I’m working on. But once I get to Sabaody I’ll talk about him more.

Shanks is part so excited to introduce the boys. After all Luffy is going to be the next King of the Pirates and carry on Roger’s legacy. Ace is Roger’s son, there is no way Shanks is keeping him from Rayleigh. And Sabo is so smart and talented, he deserves a loving grandfather, they all do.

Especially when he hears that Garp used to hit them with haki infused fists of love. Yes it was for training but Shanks can think of like five other ways to train kids that doesn’t involve hitting them with Haki.

Rayleigh probably wants to help train the boys and this is the thing that makes Shanks hesitant about introducing them to him. He would love the help in training the boys. Rayleigh trained him after all, he is the best. But Shanks doesn’t want to face the idea of leaving the boys behind.

But it’s an idea he’s going to have to deal with in one form or another. But that’s my secret plan and you’ll have to wait and find out.

[as-i-watch]

Rayleigh you big fucking softie

[beanghostprincess]

the way tamaki and kyoya call each other mom and dad in ohshc but it's just roger and rayleigh the second they find buggy and shanks because roger insists they need stable parental figures and rayleigh keeps saying that doesn't make any fucking sense and why the hell does he have to be the mom

[kacievvbbbb]

@giurochedadomani is the one that put me on the idea. But in a world were Rayleigh is Mihawk’s father despite the tragedy I’m sure this would hold (which I probably will talk about when the gods see got to bless me with articulation) it is also comedic gold.

Because Rayleigh is an extremely powerful man he also dresses like a bum and he’s probably where Shanks learned it from and Mihawk will forever resent him for introducing Shanks to sandals.

He’d also probably really hate that Roger, ROGER, has more style than his dad. And he does with that red coat red hat combo. And the fact that when we saw them younger Rayleigh was still dressed like a bum while Roger was rocking a classic black leather jacket blue jeans look. This indignity alone might actually kill him

He’s also probably call him Rayleigh, not dad, not pops, occasionally he’ll call him Father (mostly when he was younger) and there will be a dedicated vein in Rayleigh head that throbs every-time he does this.

Also Rayleigh will look at 43 year old, greatest swordsman in the world Mihawk and call him out on being a brat and it will take everything that Mihawk has plus Shanks begging him, to stop him from running the man through.

But he’d also get seriously offended if anyone implied that they were surprised they were related.

[introspectivememories]

roger who's nickname for buggy was "junebug" cause they found him in june and his hair is the same color.... buggy who hates it at first until he's climbing into his captain's bed at night bc of a nightmare and his captain says ever so softly, "oh junebug, c'mere"..... the nickname getting adopted by everyone on the crew until nobody calls him buggy anymore..... them meeting up with thr whitebeard pirates and getting irrationally jealous when the whitebeards use the nickname bc that's their nickname and who the fuck do these people think they are getting so close to their junebug.... rouge who has never met buggy calling him junebug in her head.... roger whose last words to buggy that fateful day before loguetown was "you shine like the sun, junebug. never stop"..... buggy who waits for years after the execution for a call from one of his former crew members, hoping every time the den-den one day it'll be rayleigh or seagull or gaban or sunbell on the other side with a familiar "hey junebug", except no one ever calls and the years go by and buggy slowly learns to stop waits, and gives on being the roger's junebug and learns how to be buggy the clown, buggy the genius jester, buggy the immortal, everything and anything other than junebug

[moongothic]

Do you have any thoughts on Dadan as Luffy's mother's figure? Anytime the topic of Luffy's "BIO" mom comes up in discussions the fandom LOVE to use the excuse well "We won't ever see Luffy's mother because Dadan already fits that role. Listen I love Dadan's character but some people are putting her on the pedestal like she is the best mother of all time, when she was literally taken by gunpoint by garp's to take care of Luffy NOT to raise him but to make sure he doesn't die. (literally the bare minimum)

Now I remember back in 2008 a fan asked Oda about Luffy's bio mom and if she would ever appear in the series and he gave the description of Luffy's bio mother she would be mean, strict, middle-aged, and not the girly type (and then starts talking about Robin who has strong ties to crocodile) and I think the question was to describe the ideal characteristics of Luffy's bio mom. Dandan just happens to fit that archetype that Oda was talking about but a fem crocodile would also fit that description like a T as well especially if the question was about Luffy's bio mom.

So if Luffy can have two dads then why can't he have two moms. Well past tense he "Used" to have two moms. I also find it hilarious how Dadan and Crocodile are both heavy Chainsmokers, Mean, and look very manly. Do you think I'm reaching with this?

Okay this had been bothering me for a while because I could not actually find this "comment from Oda" in the SBS, and because there's so many "Oda said this" and "Oda said that"s that I was starting to believe the "Oda's description of Luffy's mom is just Dadan" was just another case of Fandom Mandela Effect

But after some digging around, I did find the actual source for the original comment; it's from an AMERICAN Shounen Jump Q&A with Oda, from the 2009 December issue. This Reddit post has all the questions Oda answered, but here's the relevant one

So uh, now that I got to see the actual Q&A and confirm its existence (so it's not just hearsay)

Because Oda immidiately comments on how he doesn't really focus on blood-relatives in One Piece (referencing Robin's mother being the first blood-relative he had actually drawn in a flashback), I do think he is exclusively describing Dadan here. Because Dadan is Luffy's only mother, even if she isn't that by blood, and why would Oda bother to bring that (blood-connections not being necessary) up if it wasn't relevant to Luffy's mother.

Another thing is the timing of this interview along with that "I'm still thinking about this". For context, One Piece would have just started Marineford in 2009, so this Q&A would've been published quite some time before the ASL Flashback where we'd get introduced to Dadan. Another thing is that Oda did originally intend for Dadan to be a man, so that comment would reflect on how Oda might've been still somewhat unsure what Dadan would end up being like (in case he changed his mind again).

Not to mention Oda would have to be misgendering Crocodile in this description if it was about him, which Oda really wouldn't do, but also the description doesn't even match Crocodile, we know what he would look like on estrogen. Like the way Oda drew fem!Croc in that SBS is very much his standard conventionally attractive woman, and here he explicitly states "there's no way that she's a beautiful mother". And Croc doesn't have permed hair, like ever.

So no, between the misgendering and the way the description doesn't even match him, I do not think Oda was "lowkey also talking about Crocodile" here at all. Luffy only has one mom and that's Dadan. And either Luffy has an irrelevant (probably dead) bio-mom or two absentee bio-dads.

[crocodilenjoyer]

the biggest suspension of disbelief in one piece is that ace is somehow an only child when roger was trucking and fucking well into his 50s unless roger, like, was almost exclusively into getting pegged and aces birth (the only time he’s ever topped rouge) was an honest to god miracle

one piece au where the world government tries hunting down all of roger’s illegitimate kids à la Dipshit Joffrey Gameofthrones by looking for every dark-haired kid with no bio dad, a strong bone structure, zero self-preservation instincts and a problem with authority. the whole story is from ace’s pov though and it’s just him realizing with mounting horror and every successive headline just how much roger Fucked

[petrichorium]

Healing from generational trauma. Look at luffy……. not a garishly patterned pant in sight 🥹