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Link Click Musical update 156

Beginning of April summary, part 1

(Cao Muzhi's sillies and Wang Minhui's stage door talk)

Performances went on till April 6th and they resume on April 12th, so now we have time to catch up 🌟 I'll cover April 4th here ^^

The leaf stamp is to mark Qingming Festival. It's a period when people visit the graves and honour their ancestors.

@chocolatexiaoshi explained to me that, since it's a holiday, the theatre schedule was adjusted to hold 2 performances a day (like on the weekends). So the stamp doesn't mean any special events >< it's just to remind the audience about a different schedule.

Links in replies: cq&wmh laughing during 'Pursuers of light', stage door vid of wmh I reference later

April 4th, noon: Cao Muzhi, Wu Yihan, Qian Dongyue

These two are funny together, Cao Muzhi acts oh so clueless as Wu Yihan does his little trollin >:3 but dw cxs get a solid hug every time 💙🧡

I made a twt thread of Cao Muzhi reaction images, (he's just so funny to me 🧡) so you can check it as a bonus~

April 4th, night: Cai Qi, Wang Minhui, Qian Anqi

By the end of first half of 'Pursuers of light' Cai Qi messed up the lyrics making Wang Minhui fall to his knees and laugh (classic wmh).

🌟Exclusive gossip from stage door interview with Wang Minhui, explained by @chocolatexiaoshi ☕💖🙏(quoting but I edited grammar a bit):

'a fan said: you and CaiQi are very familiar with each other, so you guys will have more feeling of cp (cooperation?). I watched the play for the first time and have a feeling that cxs and lg are really like a married couple. wmh:😳😳😳 (he shies away in an instant) then he shared with audiences how to cooperate with each partner seriously' (timestamp around 4:00)

He also talked on how he addresses his CXS's actor partners

'BaiZhuoming: 白老师 - like Mr Bai, seems not familiar and wmh wants to perform more with him and become more familiar.

TengChunpeng: 滕哥 - like brother Teng (哥means big brother), to become more familiar.

ShuRongbo: 波波 - Bobo, 'oh I know srb is the cutest boy' (🥺Bobo is his nickname and his weibo username).

CaiQi: too familiar, just calls his name directly.'

Also, not lc related but I think some of you may like it... Wang Minhui posted this beautiful spring photoshoot on his weibo:

Nevermind, it is LC related, bc he's wearing Lu Guang's shirt. Here's a proof, he literally took it from theatre one day ><'

(*￣3￣)╭*:･ﾟ✧💕

see ya in next part soon

[accio-victuuri]

DH visits Liu Dachui 🎤 { is BJYX real? }

So someone posted a “summary” of what she said during the live as follows:

1. Will Wang Yibo participate in Street Dance Six?

Du Hua: Confidential

2. Du Hua’s favorite Lehua artist is Wang Yibo

3. CX will join the group next

4. Is Bojun Yixiao real?

Du Hua: Yes

Liu Dachui: This is Mr. Du’s answer, everyone think for themselves!

( I will talk about this part later cause this summary is deceiving. )

5. What did Du Hua say to Yang Mi

Du Hua: No news, just chatting!

6. Du Hua and Long Danni are friends, not enemies. The two exchanged messages on WeChat on the spot.

She also talked about MMQ and her previous relationship, like how she said to break up because the guy is unreliable.

Okay, so let’s talk about the most important point here. #4 which is about BJYX. Let’s get this out of the way, none of them said BJYX. It was only alluded to. What he said was something like “is (….) true?”then the assistant off cam said “four letter word” and anyone’s guess is as good as mine what it is referring to. What’s more sus about all this is how Du Hua answered without answering at all.

Now let’s talk about what this could all mean….

I honestly don’t know what she’s thinking by guesting on this paparazzi’s livestream but it’s her call so whatever. I guess this is her way of getting some exposure, and it worked cause she���s on the hot search right now, 2 entries. Maybe she is also realizing that it’s important to have some sort of “relationships” with these pap streamers cause one way or another — she might need their help.

As for BJYX, it’s either A. she cannot admit because it’s real and it’s really not her place to confirm relationships like that. B. it’s not real but she wants to be neutral about it cause cpfs are also a part of the fandom or C. she just didn’t answer cause it’s a livestream — why would she give that kind of personal information related to her artist? tho wyb was not mentioned at all. i think both of them knew what the subject was about. There may be other reasons but this is what’s at the top of my head right now 😌

No matter how much the general population of the fandom ( both solo and cpf ) hate Du Hua, you have to admit that she knows waaaaay more about WYB, both personal and professional than we do. I have to say the way she answered it that way is interesting. Some say she’s also careful not to “anger” cpfs because they are a part of WYB’s fan group. Remember what happened to the recent YH concert? Didn’t CP fans dominate? I’m sure she saw that and what CPFs can do. But i’m not saying that BJYX is a business operation on either side. It’s just that they are celebrities and their personal life, no matter how hard they try to keep private is gonna be influenced by their career. They have to be careful. We talk about how they sometimes leave us candies intentionally, and that’s an example. A balance of keeping things private but also leaving some clues when they wanna show off.

I mean, DH is the last person I will trust to tell me if BJYX is real or not. I’d rather leave that decision to whoever is on this fandom. Answer that question yourself. But I have to say that this incident will definitely be added in BJYX history. It’s really making me think about the whole “open secret” angle we’ve been saying about them.

Anyway, we can think about this all we want but the clowning will continue as usual. I honestly prefer piecing together cpns than try to explain what certain people in their life say about their relationship. 🙃🙃🙃

-END.

[rainbowsky]

Hello! I am a huge huge fan of your blog, you are always so informational, also objective, yet so, so warm and nice.

I would like to ask, you have mentioned in the past, that xz and wyb have taken down other CP supertopics and suppressed hot searches. I think that is very cool behaviour of theirs. Do you know any examples of these CP?

Thank you! Keep being cool! I hope the days you live are fulfilling and great.

Hi Anon! Thanks so much for your kind words, I'm glad you're enjoying my blog! I hope your days are fulfilling and great too! 😊

I have posted what I'm willing to talk about on my blog. It sounds like you've already seen some of that. Beyond that, I'm not really willing to discuss. I generally try to avoid talking about other CP on here, and I don't think these things deserve any more attention than they already get. Sorry!

Having said that, I also feel the need to add that going down the path of trying to 'prove' anything about GGDD based on how they act toward other supertopics/CP is a bit of a fool's errand. We don't have anything to prove, we certainly have nothing to be insecure about, and anyway it's far better if we can focus on turtles and on GGDD rather than on other stars or other CP. It's the best way to avoid toxicity and fan wars.

The truth is, GG and DD are shipped with many people, and there are other CP supertopics featuring GG or DD in other CP that still exist to this day. Even CP that have been very problematic and which have been tools for antis. They don't get a lot of attention, they're not fed, and they certainly don't come anywhere near the numbers of GGDD supertopics. Not even the smaller ones like ZSWW (1.4 million) and LSFY (1 million).

Just for example, a GG CP supertopic with YZ only has 15k members, and a DD one with CX only has 55k (and no, I'm not going to link them here - I'm glad that they're relatively difficult to find, and we should be staying in our own lane). While the members are active, they are few.

I don't think fans quite understand how INSANE it is that a 5 year old CP supertopic between GG and DD has reached 4 million, that it has the visibility that it does, that it keeps growing rather than shrinking, and that CP topics keep trending on Weibo hotsearch without being shut down. Since BJYX hit 4 million on the 3rd of this month, 32k new turtles have been added. That's in just a couple weeks. It's still growing every day.

There's a reason solos hate us so much. We're the elephant in the room for self-insert girlfriend fans. 😅

Anyway, like I said, we are better off focusing on turtle topics and on GGDD rather than other people or other CP. Live and let live.

Related posts:

GGDD supertopics and shutting down CP rumors

Other CP supertopics

The GG WZC supertopic

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[agox]

Last night I got high and wrote a program to find all of the unused elemental symbols. It turns out there’s 585 of them and it’s much less interesting the next day.

One interesting finding: I couldn’t be bothered to generate all possible one and two letter strings, so I asked ChatGPT to write me code that would do all that for me. It worked surprisingly well!

['a', 'd', 'e', 'g', 'h', 'j', 'l', 'm', 'q', 'r', 't', 'x', 'z', 'aa', 'ab', 'ad', 'ae', 'af', 'ah', 'ai', 'aj', 'ak', 'an', 'ao', 'ap', 'aq', 'av', 'aw', 'ax', 'ay', 'az', 'bb', 'bc', 'bd', 'bf', 'bg', 'bj', 'bl', 'bm', 'bn', 'bo', 'bp', 'bq', 'bs', 'bt', 'bu', 'bv', 'bw', 'bx', 'by', 'bz', 'cb', 'cc', 'cg', 'ch', 'ci', 'cj', 'ck', 'cp', 'cq', 'ct', 'cv', 'cw', 'cx', 'cy', 'cz', 'da', 'dc', 'dd', 'de', 'df', 'dg', 'dh', 'di', 'dj', 'dk', 'dl', 'dm', 'dn', 'do', 'dp', 'dq', 'dr', 'dt', 'du', 'dv', 'dw', 'dx', 'dz', 'ea', 'eb', 'ec', 'ed', 'ee', 'ef', 'eg', 'eh', 'ei', 'ej', 'ek', 'el', 'em', 'en', 'eo', 'ep', 'eq', 'et', 'ev', 'ew', 'ex', 'ey', 'ez', 'fa', 'fb', 'fc', 'fd', 'ff', 'fg', 'fh', 'fi', 'fj', 'fk', 'fn', 'fo', 'fp', 'fq', 'fs', 'ft', 'fu', 'fv', 'fw', 'fx', 'fy', 'fz', 'gb', 'gc', 'gf', 'gg', 'gh', 'gi', 'gj', 'gk', 'gl', 'gm', 'gn', 'go', 'gp', 'gq', 'gr', 'gs', 'gt', 'gu', 'gv', 'gw', 'gx', 'gy', 'gz', 'ha', 'hb', 'hc', 'hd', 'hh', 'hi', 'hj', 'hk', 'hl', 'hm', 'hn', 'hp', 'hq', 'hr', 'ht', 'hu', 'hv', 'hw', 'hx', 'hy', 'hz', 'ia', 'ib', 'ic', 'id', 'ie', 'if', 'ig', 'ih', 'ii', 'ij', 'ik', 'il', 'im', 'io', 'ip', 'iq', 'is', 'it', 'iu', 'iv', 'iw', 'ix', 'iy', 'iz', 'ja', 'jb', 'jc', 'jd', 'je', 'jf', 'jg', 'jh', 'ji', 'jj', 'jk', 'jl', 'jm', 'jn', 'jo', 'jp', 'jq', 'jr', 'js', 'jt', 'ju', 'jv', 'jw', 'jx', 'jy', 'jz', 'ka', 'kb', 'kc', 'kd', 'ke', 'kf', 'kg', 'kh', 'ki', 'kj', 'kk', 'kl', 'km', 'kn', 'ko', 'kp', 'kq', 'ks', 'kt', 'ku', 'kv', 'kw', 'kx', 'ky', 'kz', 'lb', 'lc', 'ld', 'le', 'lf', 'lg', 'lh', 'lj', 'lk', 'll', 'lm', 'ln', 'lo', 'lp', 'lq', 'ls', 'lt', 'lw', 'lx', 'ly', 'lz', 'ma', 'mb', 'me', 'mf', 'mh', 'mi', 'mj', 'mk', 'ml', 'mm', 'mp', 'mq', 'mr', 'ms', 'mu', 'mv', 'mw', 'mx', 'my', 'mz', 'nc', 'nf', 'ng', 'nj', 'nk', 'nl', 'nm', 'nn', 'nq', 'nr', 'ns', 'nt', 'nu', 'nv', 'nw', 'nx', 'ny', 'nz', 'oa', 'ob', 'oc', 'od', 'oe', 'of', 'oh', 'oi', 'oj', 'ok', 'ol', 'om', 'on', 'oo', 'op', 'oq', 'or', 'ot', 'ou', 'ov', 'ow', 'ox', 'oy', 'oz', 'pc', 'pe', 'pf', 'pg', 'ph', 'pi', 'pj', 'pk', 'pl', 'pn', 'pp', 'pq', 'ps', 'pv', 'pw', 'px', 'py', 'pz', 'qa', 'qb', 'qc', 'qd', 'qe', 'qf', 'qg', 'qh', 'qi', 'qj', 'qk', 'ql', 'qm', 'qn', 'qo', 'qp', 'qq', 'qr', 'qs', 'qt', 'qu', 'qv', 'qw', 'qx', 'qy', 'qz', 'rc', 'rd', 'ri', 'rj', 'rk', 'rl', 'rm', 'ro', 'rp', 'rq', 'rr', 'rs', 'rt', 'rv', 'rw', 'rx', 'ry', 'rz', 'sa', 'sd', 'sf', 'sh', 'sj', 'sk', 'sl', 'so', 'sp', 'sq', 'ss', 'st', 'su', 'sv', 'sw', 'sx', 'sy', 'sz', 'td', 'tf', 'tg', 'tj', 'tk', 'tn', 'to', 'tp', 'tq', 'tr', 'tt', 'tu', 'tv', 'tw', 'tx', 'ty', 'tz', 'ua', 'ub', 'uc', 'ud', 'ue', 'uf', 'ug', 'uh', 'ui', 'uj', 'uk', 'ul', 'um', 'un', 'uo', 'up', 'uq', 'ur', 'us', 'ut', 'uu', 'uv', 'uw', 'ux', 'uy', 'uz', 'va', 'vb', 'vc', 'vd', 've', 'vf', 'vg', 'vh', 'vi', 'vj', 'vk', 'vl', 'vm', 'vn', 'vo', 'vp', 'vq', 'vr', 'vs', 'vt', 'vu', 'vv', 'vw', 'vx', 'vy', 'vz', 'wa', 'wb', 'wc', 'wd', 'we', 'wf', 'wg', 'wh', 'wi', 'wj', 'wk', 'wl', 'wm', 'wn', 'wo', 'wp', 'wq', 'wr', 'ws', 'wt', 'wu', 'wv', 'ww', 'wx', 'wy', 'wz', 'xa', 'xb', 'xc', 'xd', 'xf', 'xg', 'xh', 'xi', 'xj', 'xk', 'xl', 'xm', 'xn', 'xo', 'xp', 'xq', 'xr', 'xs', 'xt', 'xu', 'xv', 'xw', 'xx', 'xy', 'xz', 'ya', 'yc', 'yd', 'ye', 'yf', 'yg', 'yh', 'yi', 'yj', 'yk', 'yl', 'ym', 'yn', 'yo', 'yp', 'yq', 'yr', 'ys', 'yt', 'yu', 'yv', 'yw', 'yx', 'yy', 'yz', 'za', 'zb', 'zc', 'zd', 'ze', 'zf', 'zg', 'zh', 'zi', 'zj', 'zk', 'zl', 'zm', 'zo', 'zp', 'zq', 'zs', 'zt', 'zu', 'zv', 'zw', 'zx', 'zy', 'zz']

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EXCAVATOR Case CX 145 D SR

EXCAVATOR Case CX 145 D SR - Greutate: 16500 kg - Motor: ISUZU, 78.5 KW / 107 CP - Șenile: doar 20% de uzură - Lățimea de transport: 2500 mm - Lamă de buldoexcavator: 2500 mm - Sistem hidraulic: ciocan / grapa / rotație / drenaj - Cuplaj rapid mecanic. KLAC, tip H - Cupa de 1200mm cu dinți - Sistem electronic de cântărire „LOADRITE X 2350”. Pret: P.O.A. EXCAVATOR Case CX 145 D SR Atunci când spațiul este mic, dar aveți nevoie de o capacitate mare de săpare și ridicare, luați un CASE CX145D SR. Este ușor de transportat, iar designul cu rază scurtă al cozii este ideal pentru a lucra pe marginea drumurilor sau în zone mai restrânse. Forța de rupere a cupei sparge pragul de 21.000 lb. În combinație cu sistemul hidraulic lin și receptiv, utilajul oferă timpi de ciclu rapizi. Există trei moduri de putere și un motor testat și dovedit care oferă o eficiență sporită a consumului de combustibil. Există, de asemenea, o întreținere ușoară în jurul mașinii. Iar cu controlul mașinii 2D și 3D adaptat OEM, lucruri mari se întrevăd la orizont. Seria D dispune de trei moduri de putere care permit operatorilor să se adapteze la diferite aplicații și să maximizeze economia de combustibil. - Modul automat (A) oferă cel mai bun echilibru între putere, control și eficiență a consumului de combustibil, menținând Power Boost activat în permanență. - Heavy (H) scoate turații mai mari pentru timpi de ciclu mai rapizi în timpul încărcării generale. - Speed Priority (SP) funcționează la turații maxime și debit hidraulic maxim, asigurând timpi de ciclu rapizi și debit optim pentru atașamentele solicitante. Read the full article

[capitalcomputergroup]

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[ohnobjyx]

Hi, im wondering about recent clip of D/D/U. I guess yibo is a playful person with his friends. I saw how he teased CX and being pampered by his U/N/I/Q hyung. Im rarely interact with ant!s but due to that clip (CX) all his cp fan happy while leaving hateful comment to B/X/G. Its hurt me when they so hateful to h-o-m-o but okay to h-e-t-e-r-o. Why oh why!?!?! This is only my sharing thought. I love reading ur opinions btw. BJYXSZD!!!

Hi, fabellevixxi95! They are talking about TTXS 200719′s episode, for those who are wondering when did this ask happen (yes, I know, I do answer late).

First of all, there are a lot of CPs featuring dd with a lot of people. His old bros from UNIQ, any female with whom he interacts beyond a “hi”, DZW, etc.

(There’s a really noteworthy douyin from DZW explaining the concept of “CP” to his mother: “when you’re very good bros, people start naming your friendship as CP, (...) like the one I have with WYB”. Golden).

I really can’t judge anyone for adhering to a CP, since it’s the same thing I’m doing, but leaving hateful comments, insulting, and outright refusing to back down and apologize for their insults is not right. Be careful of those people, sometimes they aren’t even fans, but antis trying to stir up problems. Don’t engage, block and report if they’re going against the guidelines of the platform they are in.

Okay, since that part is out now, I leave my thoughts about this CP under the cut.

Disclaimer: fake fake fake.

To be honest, I looked into dd-CX CP out of curiosity, to compare a little bit. I couldn’t even find the name of the CP at first, but it was apparent soon enough as to why: they use the same bjyx initials with the “xiao” being CX’s name. However “bjyx” as a CP name has long been taken over by bxg.

I think many people prefer him being with CX (or any other female celebrity actually) because of 2 reasons:

Homophobia. It was difficult for me to realize that a lot of people are lowkey homophobic. They won’t say “ew, gays”, but they’ll say “it’s obvious he’s with a girl instead of with a man, he can’t be gay”. They are much reluctant to admit the possibility of anyone being in a relationship with a person of the same gender, though they’ll often defend themselves with something along the lines of “hey, I have many queer friends, I’m not homophobic!”

There’s a type of fan (let’s call them gf-fans) that fantasize with the possibility of being their idol’s partner. This, in gg and dd’s case, happens much more often with female fans, who then will grasp at straws to continue believing that their idol is completely straight. Thus why they’re much more willing to see a CP with a female idol (when they accept that their idol might not be single): they feel much more identified with a female than a male.

There’s also a curious phenomenon with these “girlfriend-type” of fans: imo, they’re much more open to an hetero CP because they know it’s just rumours and that it’s much more likely to be false, so that fulfills their fantasy of maybe someday meeting their idol and making them fall head over heels in love with them.

(That’s why many bxg pay a lot of attention to what mtjj outright refuse to discuss about. Like hotpot).

It has often been commented that dd’s CP with CX is one of the most “solid” ones, even though CX has said:

She and dd had collaborated twice in a couple choreographies by the time she went for the first time (prior to dd’s birthday special in 2018) to TTXS, and she said both times they hadn’t said a word to each other outside of work.

She called dd “modern monk” in his birthday special last year, and said that he lacked interest in women.

They started to get along much better when they hosted a skateboarding variety show together in 2019, most likely due to shared interests and work related issues. That had to make the CP reach its peak, because I don’t think I’ve seen a lot of these fans nowadays.

(They got comfortable enough for dd to say that she is very heavy, because he couldn’t carry her princess-style, which she didn’t appreciate at all. Trust me, no idol would have liked that).

Dd started to treat CX as a friend, so it probably made people’s eyes fall out of their sockets, because his interactions with women are scarce and very controlled. It is to the point that some fans say he must be gay because of the nature of his interactions with women.

But... I kind of understand him? People tend to forget that he grew up in South Korea, at the age when boys and girls start to interact and make friends with people of the opposite gender. The majority of the boys usually play with other boys and most of the girls play with other girls, specially in countries so conservative as China or South Korea (it’s a generalization, but it’s what happens 🤷‍♀️).

So, at the age when boys and girls start to mingle, he was in South Korea, living in an all boys dorm and studying with other male trainees (from what I know, mixed dorms are extremely hard to find even for university students), in a society where skin touch between a boy and girl with no romantic relationship is frowned upon. I’m aware that there’s a spectrum of types of couples, but even holding hands is rare for some couples there (let’s leave the sexism that still exists in those countries for another day, but they certainly have room to improve in that issue).

Moreover, dd, for all he is bold when no words are required, is quite shy. He’s coming out of his shell, but many of his interactions with women come from a time where I think it was more shyness what made him “cold” (and many people had said that he’s shy rather than cold, and dd himself says “I’m a slow starter” meaning he needs time to be familiar with other people).

That’s why, from my pov, his stilted, uncomfortable interactions with women (in the past) steems from the environment he grew up in + knowing he’s being observed all the time. There’s a video of him dropping a pen, surrounded by girls in skirts in an event, and to pick it up, he drops carefully, facing away from the girls, and keeping his eyes locked on the pen.

(I’m leaving my own speculation about their sexuality for another post, but just as a spoiler, I’m between gay and bi, leaning towards gay for some reasons).

All in all, dd is a playful person with his friends. He has every right to be however he wants. The fact that he’s comfortable enough to tease his female coworkers is just proof that he’s grown out of his awkward phase and that he has found people he likes to work with, no matter their gender.

The fact that some people take friendship as a CP is a phenomenon that will gradually dispel once he works with more women. I really don’t understand the blind RPS with no real proof (beware of fanservicing), but I’m fine if it’s the CP of their project, ofc. So I hope the fans who want him to be straight because it fits their image of him or whatever reason can just accept that he’s living for himself, not for their fantasies. 

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[rainbowsky]

Anonymous asked:

Hi rainbow, let me help you answering the ask about CP ST of GG/YZ and DD/ZLY.

This is in reference to a previous post.

Hi Anon, going to put this under a cut because it's long.

Sorry, but I am editing out some (very little, but some) of the information you shared because it's beyond the scope of the question and because I have a policy of not sharing certain things on my blog.

If the question is just whether these supertopics exist or not, the answer is Yes. They do.

Before CQL, DD has a very popular CP ST with Cheng Xiao [redacted]

DD also has CP ST with ZLY and the shippers treats this CP as a mysterious romance. [redacted]

GG has been shipped by other actors/actresses. The most popular is him with WZC which he shut it down himself.

Then GG with YZ happened when those polaroid pics leaked to the internet. When ST rank hadn't been deleted, this ST was wild because of it back then and entered top 100. Then promotional for OOL happened and it jumped to top 40. Then the ST rank got deleted. This CP ST was very active during OOL's airing and now it's mostly BTS videos, BTS pics and fan creations (fanvid, manips, rumors).

The different about these CP STs and BJYX is simple : unlike BJYX, they don't have much future content to fill the discussions. Especially after the shows end, the actors move on to their other projects. New dating rumors will also happen during their new projects. BTS videos, BTS pictures will run out and maybe will be posted during its anniversaries but then at that time the ST is not that active anymore.

DD/CX ST, DD/ZLY and GG/YZ never trending on weibo. Even during OOL's airing which when this ST is super active.

CP STs will always come and go, depending on the popularity of the CP couple. There're certain requirements to create an ST, the main one is minimal member. Someone cannot create an ST with only 1-10 persons in it.

Solo fans move from one couple to others. You'll find many solos with many CPs. Each person have different preference. So eventually, the ST dies, unless the celebs work together again in the future.

But yeah, we don't need anything to proof that BJYX is superior or anything compared to other CP STs. After all, ST is just a fan creation/forum.

A couple comments on some of the CP you listed, in case readers are curious about my thoughts on them:

The Cheng Xiao CP was pushed by YH for a while as a means of trying to promote both artists. It never got off the ground, but CX and DD are good friends now, so no harm done.

There were some people trying to sell a ship between DD and ZLY. Any ‘evidence’ they claimed to have never actually materialized. This CP totally sickens me, and I consider anyone who tries to promote it to be a DD anti. They are trying to insert DD into a divorce scandal and frame him as a homewrecker of a couple with a new baby. No one who had DD’s interests at heart or understood anything about the kind of person he is would ever buy/sell such inflammatory BS. 🤬

Re the GG/YZ thing, Anon is talking about these polaroids, which were ‘leaked’ back in 2020 and caused a lot of fan wars and overall badness. At the time a lot of people were taking those polaroids to be real, candid shots of GG and YZ together behind the scenes during filming, so it’s not surprising that the CP blew up at the time. Surely the staggering lack of chemistry they had in OOL has straightened most of those people out...

Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to add insight for those curious about the other CP supertopics associated with GG and DD! 💖🙏🏻

[k1201a]

I'm a heretic, I side ship Yu Ai and Shen Qiao, I like the betrayal and anger ( ‵▽′)ψ. But I can't get into chengx!an. Shen Qiao at least cared enough to be mad at Yu Ai, wwx wasn't even upset, he just wish JC would leave him alone. The "conflicts" are one sided. Their shippers are just drawn to "second chance" not to the conflicts.

i ship shen qiao x bai rong 😳 celibate white lotus x evil hoe, classic wuxia cp 😈

shen qiao x yu ai also works for me, shen qiao x yu shengyan also good, all top!shen qiao ships are good 😈

i agree cx is not about conflicts, they're just people wanting their ex to take them back. some of them don't even want a second chance, they just want to get back together so that they can break up again but this time they initiate it. they don't like getting dumped, that's all. cx shippers like to say their ship has conflicts, not true, jc has conflicting feelings for wwx, but wwx has no conflicts with jc, he's just whatever as long as he doesn't have to deal with jc anymore.

yu ai is a shitbag but......still passable shipping material ig, he's cute in one of the extras, he's never a burden on shen qiao (i'm allergic to characters that are burden on the mc in danmei).

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[wtffundiefamilies]

Law student nuggestsofchicken (heh) has been summarizing Josh’s bond hearing.  I’ll be pasting that here, but you’re better off finding them on reddit yourself.  I’m finding their commentary really useful because I have no real idea how any of this shit works or is supposed to work.  Trying to keep their emphasis as true as possible, but might miss some stuff.

Prosecution’s first witness direct: Special Agent Gerald Faulkner Special agent with homeland security investigations (HSI)

Been with them since April of 2009

Since 2010 been working federal child exploitation cases

Works with ICAC task force which is Internet Child Against Children.

Worked over 1000 child exploitation cases

Vast majority involved online pornography

In May of 2019, there was an investigation of a bittorrent program that noted activity in the upper northwest area of AR involving distribution of known CP images

Explanation of peer-to-peer file sharing networks. Known by law enforcement as commonly used to distribute CP

Bittorrent is a version of peer-to-peer sharing

On May 14 and 15, detective was able to download two files

-EDITED AND REMOVED- Faulkner describes graphically what the CSA depicts. If you're really curious some news outlets have reported on it. But our members predominately felt that it was not worth reading.

Police used ISP and the geographic location of the IP address to locate the activity and it got directed to the DHS task force to address it.

Police issued a warrant to the ISP to obtain the name and account of the user.

In October 2019, the ISP revealed the account in question was owned by Joshua James Duggar with an address in Springdale.

Apparently the mapping system was out of date, and the proper address was Wholesale Motor Cars for the account associated with the activity.

DHS obtained federal search warrant to search the car lot.

Warrant was executed on November 8, 2019 at 3:15pm.

Car lot is adjacent to Highway 12, between Springdale and Siloam Springs. At the time of the search warrant there were approximately 30 cars and and RV on the lot. Two buildings, a shed undergoing remodel and a metal building the size of a toll booth which they found out was the main office.

When officers arrived on the scene they encountered Pest and two individuals.

Police approached with a soft approach, no weapons drawn, explained that an investigation was underway with suspected contraband electronically. This was not an arrest warrant, so the three people there were free to leave.

Police did not tell them case-specific facts because it could spoil statements that could be made.

None of the vehicles, none of the uniforms worn indicated that it was a child exploitation case.

Josh produced cell phone and said he wanted to call his attorney. Police said the phone was under investigation and then seized the phone to prevent any spoliation of evidence.

Josh remained on scene during the investigations. He was not guarded by law enforcement during the search.

Police seized a desktop computer, a macbook laptop inside an RV, and Josh’s iPhone.

Government’s Exhibit 1 is the photograph of the Wholesale Motor Cars main office.

Government’s Exhibit 2 is a photograph of the desktop computer. Wallpaper has a photo of Josh, Anna, and their kids but the kids have been redacted.

After securing the scene, they asked Josh if he’d be willing to discuss the issues. He agreed to speak with them.

Conversation happened inside a government vehicle. Duggar was passenger side, other officer was in the rear seat, Faulkner was in driver’s seat.

Other officer received verbal consent from Duggar to record the interview.

Duggar spontaneously asked, “What is this about? Has anyone been downloading child pornography?”

At that point, no one had told Duggar that child pornography was an issue in this case.

Officers Mirandized Duggar his rights.

Duggar said he owned and operated the car lot since June 2018, that he owned the desktop computer they found, as well as the Macbook and the cell phone they seized.

Duggar said he owned his phone but other family members could have access to it.

Duggar declined to provide the password to the desktop or the phone to law enforcement.

Duggar said that he owned the Macbook but that other family members had access to it.

He said, in response to a question from law enforcement, that he was familiar with peer-to-peer file sharing networks but did not which to comment further. He said that his devices might have been associated with peer-to-peer file sharing.

He noted that TOR might have been accessed by the desktop

TOR is a browser used to access the dark web, which is a known source of CP.

At this point law enforcement did not have reason to believe TOR/dark web was an issue in this case.

When asked if he was familiar with bittorrent Duggar declined to answer that question.

At this point, law enforcement explained that the investigation involved someone had been using bittorrent or peer-to-peer networks from that car lot to access CP involving children between the ages of 5-10

When asked whether he had any reason to suspect or had seen anyone using his computer accessing CP Duggar said “I’d rather not answer that question.”

Officers found bittorrent and TOR on the desktop.

Officers found fucking Covenant Eyes on the computer.

Information from Covenant Eyes indicated the program was registered to Josh and Anna Duggar.

On May 13, 2019 a linux-partition had been installed on the computer.

A linux partition can divide the harddrive of the computer into two isolated sections that work independently.

The linux partition was password protected and the last four characters of the password were -REDACTED- but had been used for a variety of his accounts over years.

Linux partition side did not have Covenant Eyes installed on it, so activity would not have been detected by the account.

On the Macbook there was bittorrent as well as Covenant Eyes.

Duggar had backed up his iPhone to that Macbook which allowed law enforcement to obtain texts, photos, etc. from the Macbook

Law enforcement found iChat messages from May 13-16, 2016 on the computer.

Government’s Exhibit 3 is a forensic examination summary of May 13 and May 14 extracted from Duggar’s electronic devices.

D objects to moving Exhibit 3 into evidence because of lack of foundation, and argues that it was prepared for litigation purposes but the witness was not the expert who created it.

P provides some more foundation for the Exhibit and judge admits it.

Exhibit is displayed. Basically summarizes the sus computer activity in May 2019. Linux partition was created and on the same day Tor Browser was installed on that side of the partition.

On May 14, at 4:49pm, Pest sends text that says “Got stuck here and still not free yet. Im gonna aim for tomorrow just after lunch.”

On May 14, at 4:58pm Tor browser was used to access porn sites associated with rape and files associated with CP. Video was downloaded

At 5:38pm, user accessed bittorrent. Two videos were downloaded. (Little Rock Officer was notified)

At 5:41pm, user accessed TOR directory site and website associated with bittorrent.

On May 15, 2019 at 11:35am computer user downloads 3 torrent files associated with CP.

Throughout the course of the day on May 15, Josh Duggar sends texts to 22 members of the Duggar family asking them to pray for a motorcyclist who got in an accident by Wholesale Motors. Computer also gets used to write reviews online under the name “Joshua.”

There’s also geolocations of photos taken at the car lot by Josh’s phone, but that piece of evidence doesn’t get admitted because D objects to lack of foundation regarding the reliability of geolocation data

TW: At 5:25 user of desktop downloads a file called “DD” that is known in the ICAC circle. Faulkner says that this series ranks in the top 5 of the worst CP he’s had to examine.

Josh’s screen goes black, AUSA wants to double check that he’s still present, he turns his screen back on.

At 6:56 user of desktop downloads a zip that contains 65 images of CP.

On May 16, user of desktop downloads file called “Pedomom”

The zip had been opened and the CP images had been viewed by the desktop.

Approximately 200 images of CP were located on the desktop in unallocated space, which means someone tried to delete them.

Friends and family at the time testified that Josh had a pornography addiction.

CX: Special Agent Faulkner

(I’m not gonna include information that was repeated on direct. Just getting the points that D seems to think is damning)

Faulkner was training another agent at the time of this investigation

The Detective in Little Rock was able to detect an IP address, but not one particular device.

Individual devices can be recognized by a MAG(?) address, which did not happen here

Little Rock detective did not have an Network Investigative Technique warrant

P objects on this, noting that it’s a detention hearing. Judge agrees but allows D to develop its point

D asks whether Faulkner’s first time reviewing the images at issue was in October 2019. Faulkner says it was probably June 2019.

D brings up the search warrant affidavit which suggests that Faulkner first reviewed the images in October.

D kind of tries to impeach Faulkner with the affidavit but the affidavit statement doesn’t really say that the first time he reviewed the images was in October, just that he did review them in October.

Law enforcement thinks Josh was the only one working at the car lot on May 13, 14, 15, 2019

D tries to distinguish Josh’s personal electronic (the mac and the iPhone) as being Apple while the desktop was a PC.

I know I’m kind of batting down the points D is trying to make but as someone who’s done trial work I think it’s worth saying that Justin Gelfand is really solid. Very conversational and likeable and really seems to know the case.

Re-Direct of Faulkner by P:

While Josh technically turned himself in, he had received word from his attorney who had received word from DHS that there was going to be a warrant executed and that DHS agents followed him as Anna drove him to turn himself in, as they didn’t want Duggar arrested in an area where children were

Question from the judge:

Covenant Eyes was installed on both the Macbook and the desktop.

Judge asked when Covenant Eyes was installed, but Faulkner didn’t know

Any reports from Covenant Eyes would’ve been sent to Anna. But the Covenant Eyes report wouldn’t pick up on the CP because it wasn’t installed on the linux partition side.

Prosecution’s second witness direct: Diem Nguyen - Probation officer

Probation officer for 17 years

Factors considered in determining whether someone should be released: Natures and circumstances of the case, defendant’s criminal history, place of employment, resident situation

Presumption cases are cases where an individual is presumed to be detained and the burden is on the defendant to demonstrate that they should be released

A third party custodian is someone who vouches for the defendant in federal court while their case is pending

They are basically in charge of the defendant if the defendant is released from custody and ensures that they follow all conditions placed by the court.

Mr. LaCount Reaver and Ms. Maria Reaver are the proposed third parties in this case. Mr. Reaver works outside of the home in a full-time capacity at the VA. Mr. Reaver is a pastor and volunteers with jail ministries Ms. Reaver is a full time homemaker. Ms. Reaver was concerned regarding being left alone with Duggar as she was a female and he was a male. (note: Ms. Nguyen is not a good witness. Doesn’t seem like she knows where the prosecution is trying to take this and isn’t really answering the questions) Minors would be coming into the Reaver’s residence for piano lessons where Duggar would be Ms. Reaver is close friends with Josh’s parents and they attended the same church at one point. She feels that she and her husband should help his parents and Josh. Ms. Reaver said she’s a lot closer to Josh’s parents than to Josh himself Josh’s parents reached out to the Reavers for their assistance Ms. Reaver said she was familiar with the charges in question but she did not know the details of them. Both Mr. and Ms. Reaver had concealed carry licenses and had 3 rifles and 6 pistols at their resident. Nguyen asked if they had a gun safe to keep access away from Josh and Ms. Reaver said they would lock up the guns in a master bedroom closet. Ms. Reaver did not have a plan for what to do with the minors coming to the house but said that they would always be accompanied by another adult Duggar would be staying at a side bedroom that locks from the inside so Duggar couldn’t lock it himself, but he could exit the bedroom from an exterior door Nguyen thinks the Reavers “could” be suitable third-party custodians, however the minors coming to the home as well as the firearms causes the probation office some concern. There is internet at the residence but it is password protected. During the interview with Josh, Nguyen asked whether he was suffering from any addictions. He said no. Nguyen found a statement from Josh in 2015 where he admitted to a pornography addiction, but did not ask him about it. AUSA asks about molestation from Josh when he was younger. D objects claiming these records are sealed and leaked from tabloids, and deals with his conduct as a child. Judge overrules. Judge explains that she is concerned about the safety of the community. If the previous molestation issues had been handled in juvenile court it would’ve been sealed. But Duggar and his family have chosen to be public about these activities and admissions and they’re not too far in the past to still be relevant. Minors were 11, 10, 9, and 5 at the time of the incident, and Josh was 14. Nguyen recommends that Josh be detained and the presumption apply. Even if Reavers were suitable third-party custodians it wouldn’t mitigate the risk to the community.

CX: Probation Officer Nguyen

Reavers have no criminal history

No minors reside at the Reaver home

Reavers said they would do whatever they needed to do to be Josh’s third-party custodians

“If the firearms were removed from the home and if the piano lessons cease, would that be a suitable third party residence?” “Quite possibly.” -Justin Gelfand looks forlorn-

In the 17 months Josh has been aware of the investigation, Josh has not left the country.

Re-direct of Probation Officer Nguyen:

Re-iterates the sexual abuse of minors from years ago

Re-cross of Probation Officer Nguyen:

*missed this because I was taking my dog out to pee* But the bit I caught sounds like they were emphasizing that the probation office had the authority to detain Josh if he violates any of the release conditions.

-prosecution rests its case-

Defense First Witness Maria Reaver:

She’s Asian. Did not expect that

“Are you aware of the charges brought against Mr. Duggar?” “Some”

Aware of the two charges here

No criminal history

Has a place where Josh can live in her house

Lives in Washington County

Has a mother-in-law kind of suite in her home that Josh should live in

Would be willing to abide by any conditions given by court

Would report any broken conditions to the court

(Defense attorney Travis Story is….not as good as Gelfand. Lots of stumbling and unclear wording. The reason my summary of this testimony is so choppy is because that’s how it’s being presented. Reaver giving pretty much just one word answers)

Adult daughter teaches piano at the Reaver home

A few minors come over for piano lessons

Location of piano lessons could be moved to a different place

Has a place to move the fire arms if need be

Mr. Reaver leaves for work at 6:30am and gets home at 4pm

Ms. Reaver and her daughter would be alone at home with Josh. The daughter would come and go throughout the day, possibly leaving Ms. Reaver home alone with Josh.

Ms. Reaver would be OK being alone with Josh.

Wants to be the third party custodian to help the family and “minister” to them

Story just says “That’s admirable.” and i laughed bro you’re not the one testifying here??

Ms. Reaver is willing to serve as third party custodian regardless of whatever rules the court chooses to impose.

CX of Maria Reaver:

Reavers have neighbors, but each of them have about 5-10 acres of land so they’re pretty spread out.

Known the Duggar family for 5-6 years. From time-to-time would interact with Josh.

They’ve been inside the Duggar home. And been to a couple of weddings.

Never had a one-on-one conversation with Josh.

Never been alone with Josh.

Attended church them in 2015 when the sexual abuse allegations first came out, but wasn’t fully aware of them. Is aware of them now.

AUSA asks “Can you tell me what you know about the allegations?” Reaver pauses, is silent, and then says “Give me a minute.” Story objects, judge overrules.

“I don’t fully know everything but from my understanding there was some, uh, when he was younger, I’m not sure how old, maybe a teenager, that there was inappropriate touching of some of the minors.”

Was not aware that one of the minors was 5-years-old

“Does knowing that there was a 5 year old involved change your decision to serve as a third-party custodian?” “I’m looking at is as we are here to be as help, to the family, to Josh and Anna. To minister to them.”

Jim Bob called her husband and asked them to be the third party custodian because her husband and Jim Bob are good friends.

“Did you feel any pressure or obligation to serve as the third-party custodian?” “My husband has made the decision and I’m here to support that decision.”

More talk about ministry and serving others

If the conditions were violated she would alert the court before notifying her husband

Would not leave her adult daughter alone with Josh

“We don’t have internet-internet, our internet is in our phone, it’s like a hotspot. There’s no wifi. We don’t have cable. There is no hard wiring.” (side note: wtf?? It’s 2021)

Phones are password protected

Understands that if Josh is released to her home he could be there for 6 months.

Redirect of Maria Reaver:

Re iterates that she would alert the court directly if the conditions were violated

Questions from the judge:

First call if the conditions were violated would be to the US probation office (“Not your husband, not Jim Bob Duggar, not elders in the church”)

Daughter has been spoken to regarding relocation of the piano lessons

“This case has gotten a lot of publicity. And the last thing Mr. Duggar needs is an incident with a firearm.” Reaver says she’d remove firearm

Defense second witness: LaCount Reaver

Has firearms in the house, but would be willing to relocate them outside the house

Willing to serve as third-party custodian along with his wife

????THAT’S IT?? Literally 3 questions

CX:

Was aware of Duggars’ charges specifically

Was not aware of all the details, such as that toddlers were involved

But does not change his opinion of being the third party custodian

Jim Bob Duggar was the one who reached out to them first

JB asked if it was something he could think about, pray about, being a part of

JB referenced Reaver’s involvement with prison ministry as making him a potentially good third-party custodian

Has known the Duggars for 6-8 years

Knew them in 2015

Didn’t know the exact details but was familiar with “some charges” related to him

Knew that the minors resided in the house where Josh resided

Was not part of the church in 2005.

No hesitation about leaving his daughter or wife alone with Josh

No implication that he would get anything in return for housing Josh

He’s a volunteer chaplain at Washington County jail but that’s been halted because of COVID-19

Not necessarily interested in offering counseling for Josh

Willing to call US Probation directly if Josh violates conditions

Has “phone internet” and “uses that for the computer.”

Says he’s a “3 or 4” on a scale of 1-10 of tech savviness

Phone is locked with a pin

Did not know Josh is tech savvy

Last time he spoke with Josh one-on-one was more than a year ago

Not sure if his wife has ever had a one-on-one conversation with Josh

“Is it common practice in your marriage that when your wife interacts with men that there should be a chaperone there?” “I think that would be best.”

Says that his wife should be around Josh with another person, not necessarily a male, could be a daughter

Is a family, they discuss things, they both prayed and decided to do it

“When a family is in need and they ask you for help, I think that’s something anyone would do”

Questions from the judge:

Willing to remove firearms if Josh is released to his custody

Will under no circumstances reveal his password to his phone or computers to Josh

“If you or your wife or your daughter observe or learn about a violation by Mr. Duggar I need to hear you say that your first call will be the US probation officer who’s supervising this case?” He says yes.

Judge: “The time for prayer, and conversations with Jim Bob, and with the elders of the church, that will happen after calling the probation office.”

Defense closes case. Closing arguments now.

Judge asked both sides to keep closing arguments to ~5 minutes since it was getting late.

Prosecution closing:

Nature and circumstances of charges:

Josh intentionally used Bit Torrent to receive CP.

Intentionally used linux partitions to hide what he was doing

Covenant Eyes does not pick up on what’s going on behind the partition

Josh took steps to conceal his activity by doing it on his work computer and avoid the recognition of Covenant Eyes.

-description of how horrific the CP found on Josh’s computer was-

Emphasized that the partition was password protected using a password linked with Josh’s other accounts which indicates that Josh, and not another employee, was behind the partition

Timeline in Exhibits 3 and 4 demonstrate that Josh was the one using the computer in May to download CP and throughout the day texting his family and using the computer for other uses

Discussion of Josh committing sexual abuse when he was a teenager.

Josh’s lack of movement in the past 17 months does not necessarily mean he wont be a flight risk now that circumstances are different

Nature and seriousness of the danger to the community:

We know the extent and the steps Josh will take to hide his actions. We know the kind of material depicted in the CSA that Josh had. We know he has a sexual attraction to children.

Not sure if the Reavers, Ms. Reaver in particular, understand the task that she would have to take on as third-party custodians.

Ms. Reaver doesn’t generally wanna be alone with a male. They have guns. They have minors at their place for piano lessons. Doesn’t make sense that they’d want turn their entire life around to do a favor for a family friend.

We know Josh has a history of “hands on” abuse, we’ve seen how sneaky he can be, AUSA asks that he be detained.

Defense closing:

Josh is presumed innocent of what he’s accused of. A detention hearing is not the place to try this case.

Two prongs under Bail Reform Act: 1) Flight risk

DHS executed search warrant in November 2019, 17 months ago, but Josh has not fled since then. Voluntarily surrendered without issue.

Not a danger to the community. If law enforcement thought that he was a danger they could’ve detained him back in 2019, but they didn’t.

Probation officer Nguyen testified he has been fully compliant since he’s been arrested.

Judge asked the Reavers point blank if they were willing to report to the probation office first, and they said yes.

Law unambiguously points against detention, and the facts point against detention.

Court taking brief recess to collect thoughts and look through evidence. Asks Josh if he’s doing OK, or where he is in the detention center. He says “Sitting on a metal stool, Your Honor.”

Judge's thoughts:

Nature of circumstances of charges against Josh: Presumed innocent. But count 1 carries a mandatory minimum 5 year sentence. Count 2 could carry sentence of 20 years based on the evidence admitted at trial. Court views these charges as very serious. Court is concerned about the evidence describing those charges. It is concerning that that DD file is "some of the worst sexual abuse child pornography that he has seen in over a thousand cases." That concerns the courts.

The number of images concerns the court. The prepubescent age of the victims concerns the court. The sophistication of the person who downloaded the images concerns the court. It is not the average defendant who can access the Dark Web, who can use partition devices, and who can bypass significant surveillance programs.

Children are involuntary victims of pornography and sexual abuse. They're subject often to human trafficking and other circumstances we don't have time to address. The demand and download of child pornography fields the market for the production of this material. The forensic evidence suggests that a significant amount of effort was made to download a significant amount of child sexual material. The weight of the evidence is not insubstantial. That also weighs against Josh.

History and characteristics of Josh: Josh has a long history in Northwest Arkansas, he's married, has children. He has no drug or alcohol history. It seems that Josh has been involved in various businesses in Arkansas. Josh turned himself in and does not appear to have a history of other crimes. Josh did not seem to obstruct any investigation.

The court does not need to treat Josh differently than anyone else similarly situated. However, Josh's family has chosen to make their family life public. Although Josh has never been convicted of any crime, he has admitted to in the past touching children, which concerns the court. That was a public admission, and everyone at this hearing knows it. This concerns the court. What's particularly concerning is the age of Josh's sisters and the age of the children involved with the charges against him.

The court is mindful, however, that this conduct happened a long time ago. And it happened when Josh was a child. That fact, and that fact alone, are in Josh's favor. It is concerning to court that Josh has committed that he has an issue with pornography; that is different than child pornography. But what the court has heard is that prior to images being downloaded to Josh's computer, Covenant Eyes was installed which is a program that acts as a deterrent. The court has also heard testimony that Josh's wife may have been his accountability partner on that. The court is not making a determination on that, but it concerns the court.

The court is concerned that the ages of the children involved are very similar to the age of Josh's children and the ages of his nieces and his nephews. The court keeps coming back to the age of the children Josh interacts with on a daily basis and is concerned.

Seriousness of the danger Josh poses to the community: The court does not know. Josh has not been convicted of being a danger to anyone. There is no criminal history that suggests Josh has displayed a pattern of violence to anyone. But Josh's children, his sibling's children, and his minor brothers and sisters are all part of the community that need to be protected from him.

This is a very close call. The U.S. Attorney has not met its burden.

Josh Duggar will be released on very strict conditions:

- Cannot be returned to his guest house or TTH

- Court is not interested in second chances. Don't fuck up with the Reavers. (paragraphsed)

- Tomorrow Josh will be released to the Reavers with close GPS monitoring. Restricted to this residence except for working, education, church, medical services, meeting with lawyers, court ordered obligation, or other activities approved IN ADVANCE by the probation office.

- May not possess or view pornography or erotica of any kind

- Court does not think it has the technology to limit Josh's use. Josh cannot have computers, phones, smart TVs, gaming systems, etc. He may not ask for the passwords from the Reavers or her daughter.

- Josh can get a jitterbug phone to contact counsel as long as it's approved by a probation officer.

- Josh cannot leave the Western District of Arkansas.

- Josh can have unlimited contact with his children as long as their mother is present. Josh cannot have contact with any other minor children including siblings, family members, piano students, etc.

- Not a requirement but a recommendation: Plan activities based on who he might run into. Avoid birthday parties, etc.

- No substances, drugs or alcohol

- Cannot actually or constructively possess a firearm

- Must surrender passport and not obtain a new passport

- May not violate any state or local law

- Must provide a DNA sample

- Must appear in court as requested

- Tomorrow must sign an appearance bond

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The Livestream

Got a lot of ask about this so I thought it would be easier to make a post.

Before I translate the livestream clip, thought it would be nice to give some background. So the person in the livestream is the dancer that danced with WYB today. He is gay and has a boyfriend. His favorite captain is Lay Zhang and has openly/jokingly flirted with him on the show. The show also try to push a funny “love triangle narrative” between him, Lay, and ZHL. This is of course all for effects and there hasn’t been an angry uproar for other people’s fans (something to learn from them) over this. 

So this dancer, is he someone close to WYB? Absolutely not. Why?

1) He said it. He’s also not in WYB’s team.

2) He said his impression of WYB is someone that is cold. Anyone that gets to know WYB long enough know that he may seem cold and aloof initially but that’s not how any of his close friends (ttxs brother for example) would describe him. 

3) Because he describe WYB is cold and aloof, you can infer that it is almost impossible for WYB to have a “heart to heart” conversation with him or one about his sexuality or his feelings about being shipped with a guy. Can you imagine WYB to randomly be this open with a stranger? Not at all! He’s very professional and if he talks to you more, it’s usually only about work or his hobby.

So the livestream: (Disclaimer: This is my version of the translation. I know there are a lot floating around so feel free to compare and come up with your own conclusion.) 

-There are some comments on the livestream saying “WYB  is 1 (top in t/b dynamics)”-

Dancer: Please don’t say something like this. Don’t say something so “fujjoshi.” WYB is a very pure very pure straight guy. Very pure straight guy. Be careful of your words. I already warned you. WYB is a straight man. To be honest, I don’t know if I should say this, honestly many straight male celebrities, if you ship their cp, and their age is young, they don’t like it. So I hope everyone is more realistic, don’t ship rps. If they’re straight, and you ship them with a girl, thats fine but if you ship them with a guy, they wont’ feel comfortable.

Here on will be my own interpretation:

So going back and rewatching this more, here is what I think. I think the dancer in general is just speaking from the view of someone who is gay and annoyed at all these bl obsessed fujoshi, especially ones with very incorrect ideology, over sexualization, and creepy fantasy about mxm ship. I can feel from his livestream this frustration. And I think this is a sentiment many gay people have. 

I think it’s possible he really think WYB is straight. Like I said before, he doesn’t know WYB well. So he probably just made assumptions based on seeing him a couple times (maybe he said how WYB is cold to people and avoid close contact and take that as he doesn’t like to be shipped?). Can he be right? Sure. Can he be wrong? Of course. Like I said, I highly highly doubt WYB had a “heart to heart” convo with this guy about his sexuality. 

The part about him saying that straight guys don’t to be ship with other guys sound like a generalization of what he thinks of straight man, and not specific to WYB. Why? Because WYB has demonstrated literally the opposite of this. He’s not afraid to talk about his biggest mxm ship (XZ), reference it, interact with fans that are clearly bxg, etc. But he does purposefully distant from women, flip down pictures of him with girls, close down a supertopic of him with a girl (CX), etc. So does WYB’s behavior sound like the kind of “straight guy” that the dancer was saying in his livestream? Not at all. So I think the dancer was just making a generalization. 

I’m unsure about the being young thing. Maybe he’s worried that WYB is young that comments of him being gay because of the dance might affect him, idk. But anyways, I think the main conclusion from this is that this guy does not know WYB well or speak for WYB himself and there’s no point to celebrate or jump ship from what a random third party is saying.