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[idostuff321]

Guess the trope (I have no idea)

I'm going to use the countryhumans hashtag instead since countryballs seems to have a more "comic based" demographic? (And because there's a 30 hashtag limit)

[weirdestcountryhumans]

Colonizer x Colony Ships: Why It's a Bad Portrayal and Something People Should Move Away From

Because these kinds of ships are far too common in this fandom, and people need to learn to recognize that they are incredibly offensive at times.

The Defense of These Ships

Many people defend these ships by claiming that the colonizer country feels guilt over what they did or that they were not involved in the brutality of colonization and were unwilling bystanders. Some claim that the colonization occurred because they "loved" the person they were colonizing and colonizing them so they could be together.

These ideas are, at their core, racist. That is not to say the people who ship them are racist, but these ideas originate in real-life racism, racist propaganda, and racist ideology. White Man's Burden (link) is exceptionally present in this.

These defenses also excuse the colonizer from the consequences of their own actions, excusing them from the ideals of their country to portray them as more innocent. I am not saying they cannot grow; I am just saying that in the 1800s, Britain wasn't going to be anti-imperialist. They don't see their actions through a modern lens and will be assholes (by modern standards) and bigots. They will not be the modern image of progression in those periods. And even if you have them get together after the postcolonial period, that does not erase the pain they caused that country.

It is insensitive at best and racist at worst. Please think things through before you create ships like these. To support my point, I have created a small list of popular colonizer x colony ships. I will go over a bit of the history between the two and why that illustrates why they shouldn't be shipped, as well as any problematic tropes I notice.

Ship Examples and why they don't work

Netherlands x Indonesia

This ship has always confused me. I really don't see much of a basis for it. One, if you have colonies be the children of empires; Indonesia is in a relationship with his parent. Two, even if you don't have that, the Dutch still committed many war crimes in Indonesia, like the Banda Islands Massacre, as well as inflaming ethnic tensions so they could get cheap war slaves, and ergo enslaving many people from the ethnic population. There is also evidence of torture of these slaves and some female slaves being used as sex slaves.

The Dutch's greed for money often led to famines as the local farmers were put under heavy stress, and the coolie indentured labor system was rife with abuses. Many war crimes were also committed during the Indonesian War of Independence. While modern relations are better, it does not erase these crimes, and I think this ship is very insensitive.

Japan x South Korea

Yeah, guys, Japan colonized Korea. Now, while what I am going to explain applies to both Koreas, I am specifying South Korea simply because I see that more.

Let's start with comfort women. Now, if you haven't heard of them, they were women and girls forced into sexual slavery by Japan during World War two. Since Korea was one of Imperial Japan's earliest colonies, many of the comfort women were Korean. They also began a period of Japanization, banning Korean names and the Korean language.

In the modern day, about 79% of South Koreans view Japan negatively, only being beaten out of the most negative perception of Japan by China.

Both modern relations and history show that Japan and South Korea would not be in a relationship, and I don't even think they would be friends. Japan's history with South Korea (and North Korea) has never been positive, and I do not think that this is a good ship, especially considering that their relations are still not great. It is very insensitive to the horrific war crimes that Japan has committed against the Korean people.

Sunshine Harem

This is singlehandedly the reason I made my Philippines AroAce—out of spite and hatred of this pinnacle of insensitivity. This is not only shipping the Philippines with one colonizer but every single person who had ever colonized him (aside from that one period of time during the Seven Years War when Britain was governing the island).

I am going to go through each person and explain why shipping the Philippines with them is bad, even though I really shouldn't need to point out that shipping the Philippines with three of his colonizers is bad.

Let's start with Spain. Now, out of all the people who colonized the Philippines, I know the least about Spain's actions. But, in typical Spanish fashion, war crimes were committed, with massacres being committed, as well as Hispanicization, as well as hundreds of years of revolts against the Spanish. There is no basis for a good relationship with so many years of bad blood. While modern relationships are okay, considering that some people have colonies as the children of empires, it feels a little like incest, or at the very least, having a massive power imbalance.

Next up is the good ol' US of A. Surprise surprise. The United States promised to give the Filipinos independence after the Spanish-American war, and they turned their back on them and made the Philippines a colony. What followed next was the Philippine-American War, a war in which the United States committed several war crimes, such as killing civilians (some of which were children), creating concentration camps for Filipino civilians, and torturing Filipino prisoners through waterboarding (link). This is a small sampling, but it proves how horrible things were.

Not only were there these horrific crimes but there was also a period of Americanization in the Philippines. While the United States did eventually give the Philippines their independence and liberate the country from Japan, that does not erase their record, nor does it abolish the legacy of these crimes. I cannot see the Philippines ever wanting to date the United States because of this.

And lastly, we have Japan. Like in Korea, many Filipino women and girls were forced into sexual slavery. The Japanese also forced Filipino soldiers into concentration camps where tens of thousands of them died from disease and poor conditions and turned the Filipino government into a puppet state. Citizens were also murdered and tortured by the Kempeitai, Japan's secret police.

That is just a summary of the war crimes committed by Japan while occupying the Philippines during WW2. It baffles me that anyone would ship them together. The Philippines would have lived through this. Do you think he would want to date Japan, even if it wasn't the empire of Japan? While Filipino-Japanese relations are much better than they were then, this is still a horrific subject.

Please, just look into their histories.

England x Ireland

Yes, Ireland was a colony of England (and later the UK) for around 800 years, from 1169 to 1918. During that time period, Ireland was subjected to anti-Catholic laws, laws banning certain aspects of Irish culture, Anglicisation, and ethnic cleansing (link), as well as the Irish Famine, which some argue is a genocide. I am not here to get into that debate, but I know pointing out that word will make you pay attention.

Ireland has lost a lot of its culture due to English colonization and laws, and there is a reason why the Irish do not like the English. This ship makes no sense and is insensitive to 800 years of colonization and struggles that the Irish went through in an attempt to keep their culture, language, and identity. There is far too much history for me to list here, but this ship is based on nothing. It is based on a terrible history that far too many people brush aside. Like with so many others on this list, it is insensitive.

Even with modern relations being better, the people of Ireland do not like the English, and this ship, to me, as an Irish citizen, feels like a slap in the face. There is no basis for this ship that makes an ounce of sense.

Israel x Palestine

I have seen this one before. It sickens me, especially with what is currently happening in Gaza. What I hate even more is when people portray it as if Palestine is the instigator of the relationship or that Palestine is forcing Israel into it. I shouldn't need to explain why this ship is horrific and completely senseless.

[k1ng0k]

ugly corporate doodle

[belorussiandino]

finally did the full thing and sacrificed my sleep schedule for it! yay!!,

[drawlody]

A challenge:D!!! i really enjoy designing countryhumans like i get to draw cool cultural clothings as well as being be to make new characters

[countryhumansrmyguiltypleasure]

Ayyyyy

This is a joke, don't come after me

[novarlie1983]

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY INDONESIA MY BELOVED COUNTRY😆😆😆😆😆🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[chemyach]

Hello! Here are old drawings I made, Russia and Indonesia are friends now, but even back then, USSR and Indonesia had a steady relationship.

Nikita Khruschev and Indonesian president Soekarno

The Soviet Union was one of the countries that welcomed the birth of Indonesia as an independent country and the Soviet Union condemned all forms of colonialism. Indonesian freedom fighters hoped for support and assistance from the Soviet Union. At the United Nations (UN), the Soviet Union repeatedly raised the issue of Indonesia and demanded that the UN stop Dutch military aggression, and called on the international community to recognize Indonesia as an independent country.

In 1956-1962, Indonesia had close relations with the Soviet Union, which was reflected in the frequent visits of the two heads of state. The Soviet Union played an important role in the liberation of West Irian, as President Sukarno aimed to eliminate all remnants of Dutch colonialism. In 1952, the Netherlands unilaterally included West Irian in its territory, while Indonesia considered it part of its own country. To avoid open war with the Netherlands, Indonesia needed strong military strength and sophisticated equipment. They explored options for acquiring military equipment from the United States and the Soviet Union.

Even though previous procurement efforts from the US failed because the Netherlands was its ally, Indonesia received a positive response from the Soviet Union. In late 1960, a contract was signed for the procurement of military equipment, which was delivered to Indonesia in early 1962. This contract strengthened the Indonesian Armed Forces and allowed for a peaceful resolution of the West Irian problem, so that West Irian could once again become so that West Irian could once again become part of Indonesia.

(Source: kemlu.go.id)

[greenwayinc]

Philippines: Goddamnit, the printer broke while printing out Malaysia's birthday invitations.

Indonesia: Well, what are they supposed to say?

Philippines: "Malaysia's birthday".

Indonesia: So, what do they say instead?

Philippines: "Malaysia’s bi".

Indonesia:

Indonesia: Works out either way.

[dekulakization]

[cherrytoilet]

Friend, Enemies and lovers i guess

[reimikuu39]

Ada indonesia coy

[germanyballartsandanimations]

Eid Mubarak artwork i posted last night 😍🙏 happy eid to those celebrating!

[k1ng0k]

[definitely-a-clod]

Indon or something, idk man

Girlie is volcanically active

[kazakhgirlblog]

Palestine and Indonesia