#councilor gwen

[faithful-grigori]

theghostbunnie said: “#Finally someone acknowledges Neil and Gwen both write fanfiction!!!/pos”

I have a hole in my soul that can only be filled by watching Gwen and David parent other campers.

[epic-sorcerer]

Transcript of a conversation I just had with my freind:

Me: Merlin x Arthur x gwen is pretty popular, and like conceptually I guess it makes sense why but I just can’t get into it. Like I feel like it would be so clear Arthur isn’t pulling his weight. Imagine being Merlin and having both Arthur and gwen together and like…having them side by side. they couldn’t compare. I feel like it would immediately dispand

Friend: yeah, like what does gwen even see in him?

Me: yeah like at least Merlin and Arthur make some sense bc of destiny and stuff. Merlin is extremely obsessed. Alos like they would totally be trapped in the same special ed room together. Forced to do group projects. God what did we even do in special ed I can’t even remember….idk talk about Feeling Words?

Friend: yeah lol just talking about how they’re feeling. What would giaus be, like the councilor?

Me: idk i mean I guess he’d be the school nurse?

Freind: idk I kind of see giaus as a councilor

Me: I mean to be fair if you were a medival docter you did everything. Like you were a psychologist, psychiatrist, surgeon, gynocologist, pediatrician, etc. like you did everything. That’s why it’s just giaus doing that job like it takes a lot.

Friend: that’s not overwhelming at all!

Me: haha yeah…idk what would gwen be? Idk I feel like she has strong kindergarten teacher/social worker vibes- wait. That’s why they got together Arthur needs a social worker lmao

[the-archetype-of-civilization]

Fourth rewatch of ATSV, y'already know:

-SPOILERS AHEAD!-

The name of Gwen's band being "The Mary Janes" is cute. Kinda sad that we don't see any form of a real Mary Jane, though.

George lightly and gently punching Gwen's doorframe when he says they got a "breakthrough in the Spider-Woman case. I can feel it" is so realistically portrayed. A man that's driven by justice and wanting to do right by his daughter, the hand gesture kinda says it all, honestly.

I FINALLY FOUND THE FUCKIN' TRANS FLAG, JEEZ I CAN'T BELIEVE IT TOOK ME 4 SESSIONS TO FIND IT.

When Gwen lands inside the Guggenheim, she slides in and her left foot is on the tips of her toes like a ballerina. I can't believe I've talked it about so much IRL that I didn't point it out here. But yeah, really badass.

"Hey, who left this ATM on the sidewalk?!"

There's a food cart called "Mothershuckers," I think.

Jess and Peter are terrible mentors for bringing their babies (one of them unborn!) into fights!

The student councilor's calendar has a funky lil' dog on there with sunglasses (I think).

When Miles says "whatever" to his parents, Rio's face was FELT. And that head movement was so on-point. It's crazy how human this movie is despite it being animated.

A Puerto Rican friend of mine said that a lot of the food at the party was instantly recognizable. That and the fact that a lot of the older generation HATE being addressed by their first name, which works well when Rio calls out Gwen saying hers.

Jeff trying to fix that cat balancing beam in the councilor's office and seeing it fall each time kills me.

Miles twiddling his thumbs nervously when he almost reveals himself to Rio is so realistically portrayed, I love the hand motions in this movie.

Gwen's avoidance to answer Miles' questions directly, or even at all, really irks me, especially when Miles has some very personal questions ("What are you doing here? I thought I'd never see you again..."). STOP LEAVING MY BOY IN THE DARK.

Speaking of Gwen, it honestly really bothered me how Gwen acted in this movie when it came to other people (being so nonchalant to Miles' parents, that awkward and sudden goodbye to Miles before she goes to find Spot, etc), like she's acting like such a child. But now, I genuinely think that she's just socially awkward, which I should've probably put together already considering she barely has any friends in her world and (presumably) doesn't talk to many people except for other Spider-People that are (again, presumably) just as awkward as she is.

Like, WHY DID SHE CHOOSE TO REVEAL HERSELF TO MILES' PARENTS WEARING HIS HOODIE AND THEN BEING LIKE "Uh Miles is missing, I dunno where he is. Bye!" GIRL, THAT'S NOT HOW YOU DO IT. Her promise to them and telling them that Miles loves them was nice, though.

Rio cupping Miles' face in her hands during her speech and Miles chuckling and smiling breaks my heart, man. If that ain't a mom thing to do ❤️ And I would smile and laugh just as much if it was my mom, too. I still think about Rio's speech, even today. It's that good.

Jeff climbing up the water tower to meet "Gwanda" and bumping his head into stuff and hurting himself was hilarious and I can't believe I didn't notice until now.

Miles hyping up the empanadas to Gwen was adorable. And his hand gesture was cute, too.

Miles' goodbye to Gwen is even more heartbreaking because you can see the tears welling up in his eyes. WHY WOULD YOU HURT MY BOY LIKE THIS???

There was an interesting parallel (don't know if it was intentional) where Gwen was hit by Spot and was falling in Mumbattan, Miles catches her and carries her before he drops her and reaches to save her. But when Miles is escaping from the Spider Society, Gwen catches Miles and Miles intentionally breaks the web and free falls instead, shaking his head at her. Gwen trusts Miles, but Miles doesn't trust Gwen anymore.

Bro, Miles can't catch a break with the damn snitches (the students ratting him out to the guy's office in ITSV and that woman on the highway in ATSV). Glad he called her out, though. Though, if there was a big scary Spider-Man with claws and arm blades on my car, I'd probably do the same just to get him off and away.

Miles rubbing his cheek in embarrassment when Rio appears in front of Gwen was so good. And his face when he goes "MOM!"

Something about the way Miles says "You have to let me go" to 42 Miles is interesting. I can confirm I saw the acrylic stand of Miles Morales Spider-Man in 42 Miles' apartment. I wonder if 42 Miles looked up to Spider-Man or something, maybe there is some history that we don't know between him and Spider-Man in some way, which is bizarre since there is SUPPOSED to be a Spider-Man there but isn't.

I like how Mayday took a crap when Miguel held her heheh. He IS the establishment. "Yup, she's a Parker" says Peter. Lmao.

There's several scenes where Miguel is talking about the canon to Miles with everyone being pretty close to the center, while Hobie is the farthest from all of them most of the time. And he's kinda facing away from them with his head being turned to face Miles. Shows how he separates himself from the society, but is only looking out for Miles right now.

There's a really cool YouTuber that went really in-depth with Gwen and George's conversation when Gwen returns back to her world and it's really insightful. Shows her lack of communication skills in general (and that it, unfortunately, seems to be hereditary, as well). He even talks about the damn penguin. Crazy stuff. But he makes a great point that Gwen actually genuinely smiles after talking to her dad, more so than even being with Miles. It's really sweet.

I dunno why, but I feel for that guy running the food cart when Gwen and Miles take his hot dogs and just dips and gives them cash (letting him keep the change). Just feels inconvenient for him, despite making a profit. I dunno, the guy looked like he was really befuddled and I felt for him lol.

The current Prowler's theme (42 Miles) being Miles's theme in reverse is insane.

Someone else pointed it out, but Pav threading the damn needle through a broken poster was SLICK.

Speaking of threading the needle, Miles almost messing up when he dodges the truck and screams out is hilarious. It honestly sounds like a reused scream sound file that he did in ITSV.

"I don't believe in consistency!" "This guy's killin' me..."

I didn't point this out in my third rewatch but the "It's a metaphor for capitalism" line was completely lost to me until I heard it then. Fucking perfection.

Pav saying "I can do both" when he sees Inspector Singh in trouble while trying to rescue Gayatri is heartbreaking. Miles says the same thing to Miguel before being shot down by Peter ("Not always."). At first I 100% believed that there was no argument that could be made against Miles, but realizing that Pav said that when he (literally) had his hands tied with Gayatri and couldn't rescue Inspector Singh until Miles came in, I'm not so sure anymore. It doesn't sway me in the other direction (being that Miles is in the right), but now it's much more clear that it truly is "not always."

I can't believe that in an Indian dominated Manhattan (Mumbattan), they STILL allowed to have that British museum up.

"I wanted to be with you guys so bad...but this thing isn't what I thought it was." I can't tell you how much I love this boy and how I will kill anyone that hurts him like this. So fucking uncool, guys. UN-FUCKING-COOL!

When Miles is talking to 42 Rio, he says that he's "stronger now because of you [Rio], because of dad" and 42 Rio says something in Spanish that sounded like the equivalent of "oh, sweetheart..." lovingly. Shit hurts, man.

Miguel against the dark rainy night under the large "WELCOME" sign is peak cinematography, next to Gwen and Miles under the clocktower.

I had to cut down some stuff because the text limit sucks. I got others and all that, you know how it is.

Second rewatch.

Third rewatch.

Final act.

[sumarak]

S4 of Camp Camp was a mixed bag for me because I like the premise of "Keep the Change" but not the execution. What the episode does is really good, but I don't like the episode itself. Anyway, I wanna talk about the whole "people can change for the worse and for the better" message.

Max changing for the better/being kind and David changing for the worse/being shitty has been set up since S2 - specifically in "Bonjour Bonquisha." For example:

Max being caring but doing it out of selfish reasons appears here for the first time as the plot revolves around Max inspiring the other campers to do something nice for David because he cannot stand him when he's miserable. This is later paralleled by the conflict Max has in S4, "Time Capsules," where he only helps Gwen to make himself feel better. Both have selfish motivation, but the difference is that the first attempt was genuine, while in the second he was forcing himself to be nice. More on this later.

David ends the episode by punching Jacob out of jealousy in front of the entire diner.

So both have previously established episodes that put their character progression into perspective. But an interesting thing about Max is that he is very much capable of care it's just that he doesn't recognize it as such. Max has several episodes where he saves/helps David and/or the camp (the two often overlap) for example: Order of the Sparrow, Bonjour Bonquisha, The Fun-Raiser, Dial M for Jasper, Cameron Campbell the Camp Campbell Camper, Camp Corp and Arrival of the Torso Takers. He also has plenty of episodes where the central plot revolves around comforting/or showing concern for Nikki: Camp Cool Kidz (trying to convince her Ered is using her), Anti-Social Network, Eggs Benefits, etc. He also stands up for Neil in "Culture Day" and learns how to be more genuine and kind to everyone in "Camp Corp". There's also the example of him learning to be nicer to Dolf in "Candy Kingpin". And all of that is before S4 in which he realizes how much he has changed and starts making an active effort to be better.

you'll notice that it gradually happens more often, but the one throughline is that even when he acts compassionate or caring, it is undercut by him using shady methods, complaining, or there being something that's in it for him. Like using David's credit card, getting people to beat up the councilors, asking for something in return (usually more dessert). But there are some examples of legit soft kindness like famously in Parents Day but also in "Dial M For Jasper" where after a remorseful look they decide it's better to lie to David and let him be content and happy rather than distress him further. And while he does complain or use shady methods, most if not all of these episodes demonstrate that he is capable of caring for and being kind to the people around him on his own accord.

now remember how earlier I said that in "Time Capsules," Max's attempts at being nice aren't genuine like in earlier episodes despite the two having the same premise? this is where that comes in: that ep is the first time he seeks character development rather than it happening TO him. In the time capsule, he struggles with the idea that he will never be happy or change for the better. the thing is, Max doesn't have to worry about if he's becoming a kinder person because he's already been doing kind things. he doesn't realize how naturally that development has happened and how genuine he can be.

like WHY save david in arrival of the torso takers? he does it because he wants to. he doesn't realize that all of the change he's gone through so far has not been directly intentional but it HAS been genuine. and all the care he exhibits from people doesn't need to be forced out of him because he's already proven he has a capacity for it multiple times.

like he cares abot people in his own flawed way thats often undercut by his little shit personality. its like he doesn't realise he cares for them while hes doing it. like why try to cheer david up? just. because. because he's annoying if he doesnt do it. why try to make nikki feel better? because it's dumb when she's panicking over platypus eggs. like he does care for people but its never an overt attempt to be kind, he just does it naturally. which is why "Time Capsule" wasn't genuine.

It's better to be genuine and flawed than to attempt to masquerade niceness as kindness. I've said it before but Max isn't meant to be nice. He is learning to be kind.

[faithful-grigori]

“#shes like a horse watching dogs, #gwen does not like working with a moody teenager”

good morning camp camp fandom, take my counselor!ered au please and thank you

i feel like ered is AT LEAST 15, so in this au her dads want her to get a summer job, they asked campbell bc it’ll give them a better reason to keep an eye on him, and campbell hires her because he’s scared they’ll arrest him if he doesn’t

since she’s still young, she’s like assistant counselor. like a babysitter. she just has to watch the kids and make sure they dont wonder off and die (she’s not very good at this, as she half asses her job)

the campers definitely like her more than david and gwen bc she lets them get away with a lot of stuff- she’s “the cool one”

and she definitely makes gwen and david feel a lot older than they actually are

[racefortheironthrone]

The whole Council of Ricks thing was because Rick is a toxic asshole who falls short of a super villain only to the extent that he doesn't need or want what drives other characters to villiany. The Council is an illustration of how consistently awful he is. And now, every Spider-man a fan might have loved over the years is a Rick, except if they are blessed by association with St Miles? And, "Imma do my own thing" is NOT toxic individualism?

Post #3 really started to piss me off.

First off, RIck and Morty are not the originators of the trope of a multiversal council - the Council of Ricks first appeared in 2014, but Marvel was playing with the same idea in 1986 with the Council of Kangs, the Spider Society dates back to 2001 and the Spider-Verse to 2014, Hickman gave us both the Interdimensional Council of Reeds in 2009 and the Parliament of Dooms in 2012, and on and on.

And the entire thematic point of having an "Alliance of Alternates" is to interrogate the nature of a character by throwing them into a carnival funhouse of mirrors. It's very common to have the story end with the main character turning against their alternates - Hickman had 616 Reed reject the ICR over their lack of ethics and morality (because the one thing that made 616 Reed different is his love for his family), for example.

(I've already addressed this point, but the movie shows very clearly that not every Spider is a Rick, because a bunch of Spiders join Gwen's bad.)

While "imma do my own thing" is a statement of individualism, it's hardly toxic. A major thematic drive of the movie is the outside world trying to impose a narrative on Miles, whether that's a well-meaning guidance councilor trying to get him to use a hardship narrative to get into Princeton or Miguel telling him that he doesn't belong (which is a direct call-back to Rio's monologue about Miles never letting anyone tell him he doesn't belong) and wasn't supposed to be Spider-Man. And as I said in my review, Miles is entirely right to push back because Miguel is wrong about him and whether he was supposed to be Spider-Man, about canon events and the multiverse, about what makes Spider-Man Spider-Man.

[indigosabyss]

GPiDDS2 Excerpt

Foggy had somehow managed to sneak Matt down from the building, all the way across Hell's Kitchen to his apartment, with three possibly insane teenagers. Or, well, semi-adults. With superpowers.

And now they were all staring at each other in Matt's radioactive dystopia of a living room.

The girl - Gwen, he reminded himself - had stopped talking now. She didn't seem to have any filter, spilling secrets left and right. Matt could use some lessons from her.

Unfortunately, she had now taken up excitedly bouncing her leg, and grinning like a loon with-

"Holy shit, what is that above your head?" He tentatively reached out to poke one of the yellow diamond things floating above her head. They glowed, and were shaking slightly. And also looked like drawings on scraps of paper somehow in real life.

"Sparkles." Gwen explained, "Happens when I'm excited!"

"Get used to this, Councilor." Quire - the rude one - sat back, "Trust me, when she starts playing music to highlight scenes, you're going to miss this."

[qiuweyballs]

i think watching gwen's scene with her dad fucks me up the most bc her universe is what the world feels like when im anxious???? everything bleeds together and feels fuzzy and shapefull and hits too hard to home bc i am actually terrified that my skls shitty "councilor" will out me to my parents lol haha hopes n prayers yall

[in-the-words-of-camp-campbell]

When you say Xanax three times in a bathroom, I appear.

Gwen

[plotsandthoughts]

Monster Camp is some good shit. Keep it up fam

Honestly, you guys interacting with everything: your asks, your likes, your reblogs- every bit of it is a huge burst of joy to my day! I absolutely love seeing so much excitement and curiosity about our ideas!!!

I’m so glad you are liking everything! Have some councilor content!

[echosong-87]

I finally made a blog for camp camp!!!! I'm night-terror-87 and my blog is called camp Campbell wolves!! I'm open for anything else with the camp camp au normally werewolf Dadavid au

[mmochabear-moved]

I love them

[blasters270]

AU where instead of David and Gwen being counselors, Jaiden and James are

They would animate in their spare time and sometimes, the campers could voice some background characters.

James and Jaiden are the chill councilors, not many people hate them and they're sometimes like "Ok, you can do whatever you want! We'll be in our cabin animating if you need us!" They're still pretty awkward and this makes everything seem awkward at times. Max dislikes James because of the wear your seatbelt thing he says.

Tim tom and the rest of the animation squad sometimes come to camp and they just hang out in the mess hall (they also do challenges when it's time). In the airsoft gun video that Tim Tom has, Jaiden didn't have the gun but Max did. Jaiden was busy with campers at the time and Max felt great.

[aliensubstance-011]

Harry Osborn HCs by me >:]

Keep in mind that this is for TSSM Harry

Love that lil' guy. Also sorry for formatting I'm on my phone and I don't make posts much anyway lmao. ANYWAY.

- he's Trans!!! FTM (He/him) thank you v much and of course Norman got him the best/most expensive surgeries possible because him being an Ally is TSSM Norman's one redeeming quality and it's not even canon.

- after the explosion inside the helicopter at the end if S2, Harry is mostly deaf (mainly on his right side) and has to wear hearing aids to be able to hear anything more than muffled noise (uhh apologies if i got that wrong please correct me I'm trying to do better at just knowing stuff)

-He's gay (closeted), and at the point in S2 probably doesn't understand/realise yet... Everyone just kinda knows (including Gwen), and Flash and his group tease him for it, He's still oblivious though.

- Even though he just uses he/him pronouns he doesn't care what he wears, whether it's a dress or a full suit or anything. Because fuck gender roles. I do what i want.

- all of this is so focused in Gender + sexuality well NOT ANYMORE he loves to cook but cannot bake for shit. He just doesn't get it. His cooking is delicious however.

-He will probably grow his hair out a bit/experiment with it after Norman is gone, it's not unusual to see old pictures of him with long curly hair, shaved, with a fade, undercuts, pattern shaves ect ect ect. They all look really good on him because i said so. He doesn't dye his hair at all.

- let this boy have Therapy. Capital T Therapy. After Norman "dies" he gets counseling to help him with his grief and the councilor is just 'get this poor boy some full time therapy'

-He gets some tutors in and starts to work towards business school- he wants to fix the corruption in Oscorp before anything else. Yes it's not stated there's full corruption but c'mon it was run by Norman Osborn.

- It takes quite a few years, but eventually Oscorp is run by a good board of directors (is that the right thing??? Idk group of people who run the company lol) who report to Harry for executive decisions.

-Part of the proceeds from Oscorp go to many different charities. Kind of getting off topic from Harry here pfft

-After he can do his own thing, he opens up the Café (Coffee bean Café- I'm being serious there's an Harry Osborn who owned a Café in the comics, Raimi and Tasm! fans who don't know™. It's awesome) and uses the apartment above as a safehouse for abuse victims.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk. I got very off topic. Hope yall liked it at least :)

Please let me know if I've written anything wrong/offended someone in someway. I'm just not v smart and I'm always open to critism.

[thicctails]

My interest in Camp Camp has come back around to bash my head in with the good ole’ AU Ideas Bat so have some Camp Camp AUs that I (might) do stuff with

first up is the Mervid!AU. David is a happy-go-lucky (yet extremely lonely) merman who ends up getting tangled up in the nets of one Cameron Campbell. Campbell intends on either stuffing or selling poor David, but ends up having to just dump him in the lake and run when the feds come sniffing around. David is left all alone until a certain blue-hoodie wearing, jaded camper and his two friends wanders down to the lake in an attempt to escape their shitty summer camp and, by extension, their overworked, grouchy camp councilor. 

then there's the Were Camp!AU, where the members of the trouble trio end up getting bit by a strange wolf during an evening hike. Soon, Max, Nikki, and Neil realize that maybe Gwen’s terrible werewolf movies aren’t completely science-fiction, much to Neil’s dismay, Nikki’s delight, and Max’s annoyance. However, their already shitty situation gets worse when a very dedicated monster hunting enthusiast starts poking around.

[quentinbecks]

Six Sentence Sunday

Tagged by both @redhearths and @blissfulalchemist to share six sentences from something I’m currently working on. Of the two things I’m very slowly working through this is the tamest. So, have a meet cute no one asked for.

Tagging: @adelaidedrubman @johnnycranes @florbelles @gamer-purgatory @hoesephseed @vasiktomis @shallow-gravy @josephslittledeputy @indorilnerevarine @preachercuster @jackiesarch @jacob-seed @chyrstis @aceghosts @strafethesesinners

Gwen idly taps her pen against the hardcover of her journal as she watches her older sister, Fiona, talk to her friend. She’s always enjoyed the presence of both her sibling and the councilor, but on such a nice day; a day where the sun is shining and birds are chirping, she hardly wants to be cooped up in the academy listening to mindless chatter.

“Isn’t that right, Gwennie?”

Gwen shakes her head, hoping to bring herself back from her reverie. “Isn’t what right?,” she asks sheepishly.

“I was just telling Mel that you’re interested in the subject of magic.”