#could be read as Kandreil

[jtl-fics]

■ -  Bedroom/house/living quarters headcanon for andrew kevin and nwil all sharing a dorm together

Headcanon Meme

I firmly believe that it is actually nicer than you would think but also still incredibly spartan. Like the only one out of the three of them who is in any way shape or form used to a 'permanent' place to stay is Kevin and it was the NEST.

Nicky brought a lot of the homey touches to the room previously. HOWEVER. I think that the three of them (out from under the various dangers against them) slowly start to get nice things for one another. Like Neil keeps falling asleep on the couch? Kevin bought a nice throw blanket. Kevin complains about how doing homework in the bean bag chair is killing his back? Andrew gets him a good chair. Andrew makes a single comment about going over to Matt, Aaron, and Nicky's room to use the nice coffee maker? Neil has the best one on the counter within 24 hours.

They'd never do nice things for themselves but they'd do it for one another.

[ninyard]

nin, I have two questions:

What are your feelings towards romantic Kandreil?

In your opinion, in a universe with soulmate-identifying marks, would Neil's soulmates have his original name on them? Or his new name? I've read stories with both (and one where the mark changed post-TRK) but your mind works in amazing ways so I'd like to hear what you think.

1. kandreil romantically is a good one!! my thoughts on their dynamic has been that kevneil, kandrew and andreil have different dynamics seperately and all three of them together are somewhat different together again. it all balances out, for them, there's nobody that feels left out or anything like that, but like. there's aspect in all three ships that work both seperately and together. it's a perfect balance. i'm down with kandreil

2. i was thinking about the possibility of andrew having nathaniel originally, but over time, more and more names get added. it happens sometimes, when people's soulmates have changed their names, or maybe they have two soulmates, but andrew is in class as a teenager and suddenly his fifth name is accompanied by a sixth and people are starting to question it; is he writing them on himself? is he that desperate, hoping someone with one of those names is going to fall for him? he's not sure what it means - are they all different people? they couldn't possible be the same person, soon however many different names are all over his arms and legs. i could see him being self conscious about it, all these rumours going around about him, and who his soulmates could be, and when most names last no longer than a couple months, eventually one sticks. and maybe when Neil officially signs the documents that make neil josten a real person, his older names start to fade, just leaving one name on his hip, or his neck. NEIL.

[codename-adler]

AftG AUs I NEED : An Open Invitation to All Writers

sharing ideas i’ve toyed with for so long but i’m beginning to accept i prolly won’t ever write, thus i’m taking a chance some of these will bewitch someone out there body and soul, and i’ll be able to scratch the itch a little… the more the merrier after all !

The Last of Us : either a romantic version of Joel & Ellie’s dynamic (obv. with the ages adjusted) /OR/ episode 3 AU 🥲 [any ship] {EDIT: i KNOW it’s been done already once, twice, but i *need* more! not just with Andreil! let’s be explorers of possibilities, cmon!!}

Detroit: Become Human : this one i’m really only thinking of Andreil, with either as android and the other as human… i don’t necessarily see them conforming to a specific plot line from the game, i think the android/human dynamic is interesting enough and fits them perfectly, but go off i guess !

Brokeback Mountain : i don’t really need to explain this one do i? happy ending vs. canon character death, that is the true question… [any ship]

Titanic : it’s got so many options and tropes, it’s like a buffet for fic writers ! could be used as setting only, or follow Jack & Rose’s tragic (or not!) love story. [any ship]

The Haunting of Bly Manor : Jamie & Dani haunt me still. great opportunity for Renison, Lailalvarez or Kathea, or perhaps a gender swap on mlm ship? or not, leave them boys as is. haunt me, it’s all i ask. [any ship]

BBC Johnlock : don’t shoot the messenger alright? sorry for the ptsd flashbacks btw. i just think their dynamic and crime/detective AU are great opportunities. i’m personally partial to Jeanaaron for this one, as they were my og idea bc the similarities are??? amazing??? Sherlock!Jean & Watson!Aaron, and the Reichenbach Fall??? so neat. but really, [any ship]

The Maze Runner : Thominewt // Kandreil !?!?!? it’s right there! [any ship] tho.

SKAM : ofc Robbe & Sander from WtFock are physically the perfect Andreil which leads to a great adaptation opportunity here, but Élu from SkamFr are also a great blueprint for a Kevaaron story. honestly any S3 Skam + [any ship]

Dune : listen, i don’t have all the answers. idk how that would even work. but surely you can figure smth out ! [any ship]

Inception : i love the movie. i love hans zimmer. i love Arthur x Eames. NORA SAKAVIC LOVES ARTHUR x EAMES. they’ve got such Andreil vibes, but so do Jerejean, even Renison. and the Foxes as dream crew??? so perf it’s insane. give me and Miss Sakavic what we really want. [any ship]

The Fault in Our Stars : 🥲 [any ship]

CA: The Winter Soldier / Civil War : so it’s kind of like an amnesia AU, but more angsty bc Stucky dynamic. Andreil’s the perfect fit, but who knows who else… [any ship]

Jujutsu Kaisen : 🥲🥲 [any ship.s]

Attack on Titan : 🥲🥲🥲 endless, endless paths… to pain ! [any ship.s]

How I Live Now : is that too niche? or too boring? 🤷‍♀️ (also let’s leave out the cousin thingy…) [any ship]

Red, White & Royal Blue : duh. (but not so duh, apparently, since i’ve yet to read it !!!) [any ship]

The Old Guard : oh the possibilities… Yusuf & Niccolo my loves… nobody be doing it like them, nobody. absolutely one of the most movie ever… top 10 of mine for sure. ugh, gosh ! foxes as Immortals?? the action, the mystery, the soulmates?? please i’m begging. [any ship]

that's what i'm letting go of for now... if anything inspires you, please tag me in your works so i can indulge in and appreciate what you've come up with!!

Love, Adler xx

[stabbyfoxandrew]

Favorite aftg fics?

oh i have several bestie. these will be ones i've read recently because my memory don't go too far back :') also i wasn't what sort you're lookin for so there's... horny and non-horny options : )

non-horny (may contain smut but it's not the focus):

Push to Talk by alexjosten (andreil) neil gets a job as a firewatcher in national park and andrew is his supervisor and they communicate only via radios. at first. this one is just great, loved it a lot!!

Hereafter by potentialfate (andreil) andrew is dead and it's his job to help the souls of the dead get to the afterlife. only... he keeps meeting a boy who can see him on jobs. a boy whose name and appearance keep changing...

slipstreams by boxysmiles (andreil) neil starts to get triggered by random things and can't figure out why. eventually they realize he was waterboarded in the nest.

Found us by Cherubine (andreil) andreil are both ravens and find out they're soulmates in the nest! D:

you ain't gotta go home (but i wish you would) by incogneat_oh (andreil) the boys have an argument and each of them goes to talk to wymack about it. and he ends up helpin them fix it by doing nothing

how could I fear any hurricane by wentwxrths (jeaneil) nathaniel protects jean in the nest. : )

doin' time by misterpadfoot (kandrew) kevin has feelings, andrew has threats- and kisses

TKO by Anonymous (no ship) the busboy who knocks neil out takes him home to recover. features a sweet oc who takes care of neil and who stands up to andrew. theo is my new fave character ok

purely smut:

hold me and explore me by kevjean (kerejean) kevin's wound up and needs to be taken care of : ) bdsm elements. incredibly horny. trans kevin. epic

You Want to See? by lady_flash (kandreil) kandrew are away from home. they fuck in a hotel room and video call neil so he can watch :3

better safe than damned by nanatsuyu (andreil) magical universe. neil summons a tentacle monster to blow off steam, andrew walks in on... them. it's good i promise. love nana's stuff!

Balance Restoration by HereBeChickens (andreil) andrew in a chastity cage, neil fucks him real good. nicenice

and... that's it for now anon sorry i'm so bloomin' late answering. but making fic rec lists is hard for stupid guys okay TWT hope you enjoy! <333

[dayurno]

No but for real killing Jean like that would be like an objectively bad writing choice. Same thing I think with the Kandreil draft where everyone thought Andreil was cheating on Kevin. There are some previous drafts things I think that are geniunely better as Nora's inside thoughts

it’s not that i disagree with you or anything but the reason i shared that snippet of her saying that in other drafts jean would have committed suicide while ON THE PHONE with KEVIN is that i think it’s deranged. it’s insane. it’s crazy enough to be funny. i’d give everything to read that draft

but on a more serious note: a world where something like that could happen is interesting to me. the way she put it didn’t even seem like jean’s choosing of kevin to witness his last moments was a punishment — instead kevin was, as simply put as possible, the person jean wanted to sit with him while he did perhaps the scariest thing he’s ever done. i think suicide as a theme in a story like aftg might feel as the author refusing to give a character the place or the time to heal, but in this specific situation, perhaps it *was* the choice that made jean feel more at peace with himself. ritualistic, almost, in how he reaches out for the only friend he’s ever had and asks him to accompany him to the other side. the sending off of an old friend, even if i can’t see kevin ever recovering from that phone call

in the end it might not be the dignified ending people would want for a character as beloved as jean. and it’s understandable! really it is. what matters to me is less that it happened in a draft far far far away, and rather what this says about jean and the fact that he thought the only way he could meaningfully show any support or love for kevin was to die. how he was willing to sacrifice himself again and again in every draft because he felt kevin’s & neil’s lives were worth more than his. i think this goes over most peoples’ heads when they consume mostly fanon, but jean was described in the books as having blind loyalty towards riko: when he’s taken to palmetto, he tries to go back TWICE before kevin sits him down and convinces him to stay. you didn’t think i was joking when i called jean a dog, did you?

[hemmicknicky]

wrote some kandreil smut for the people that get it

✨ in love with a camera

✨ e rated ✨ 3,5k words ✨ Neil blows kevin while he records it and they send the video to andrew, who for gods sake is just trying to get some homework done read on ao3

“Fuck you,” comes Kevin’s answer, but his voice is breathy and whiny and Neil doesn’t take it seriously. His hand keeps on moving, squeezing Kevin’s dick every now and then, caressing the tip every time he strokes up. “Andrew would tell you to suck it up.” “But he’s not here.” Kevin’s words have the opposite effect than he was hoping for. Neil gets an idea, something they’ve never done before but he’s thought about. “What if he were?” He doesn’t mean it teasingly, more like sharing said idea. “What if he knew what we’re up to? What if he could be part of it too?” Or, Kevin records Neil giving him a blowjob and they send the video to Andrew.

[broken-heart-raven-queen]

I just read the best fanfic ever and I need to share it with you.

The way it portraits ALL the relationships is just amazing. I was glued to my phone all afternoon reading it and I want more (so, naturally I'm checking out other works from this writer).

I also shared it with my irl friend who ships Kandreil as insanely as I do and believe me that if I could I would have it all embedded in my blood by now.

Thanks @peaceoutofthepieces for writing this masterpiece.

[detectivebambam]

For the choosing violence thing.

I curious about your thoughts on 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24, and 25

(Your thoughts make my day tbh)

lol i gotchu pinky

the character everyone gets wrong: Dan. she's not a badass. i mean she is, but she's not. she's a scared little girl who had to raise herself and has no idea what she's doing at any given time and i love her for it

why andrew would never top or bottom: actually he does both, and tends to enjoy it. kind of an agressive top but Neil likes it, and sometimes likes to follow orders when he bottoms 🫣 i think they do anything and everything with each other. Neil could be dominant or submissive at any given time, which gives Andrew space to learn about what he actually enjoys. He finds that as long as it involves Neil, he doesn't mind

worst tumblr take I've seen: that Andrew was a misogynist because he doesn't like being manipulated, and "manipulation is a woman's weapon" like how is THAT not misogynistic be so real

why did you block that annoying person?: kept saying that Kevin abused Riko as much as Riko abused Kevin. don't know how far they had to reach into the depths of their asshole to find that one, i just hope they didn't get stuck

i don't have discord

which ship fans are the most annoying: y'all are going to absolutely murder me for this but kevaaron. 1) where did it come from? 2) what's wrong with Katie?? 3) no hate ship what u want but also, i can ship what i want? and it's fine it's literally fine

what character did you start to hate because of fanon: i hate to say it but Thea. i adored her when I read the books originally, but after 4 years of exclusively fanon content i didn't like her. but i did a reread recently and adore her again so it's all good

common fandom opinion everyone is wrong about: Andrew being a sex god. Neil is his first consensual sexual partner. like yeah he knows how to suck dick like a dying man, which he learned in juvie (when he was 13-16?) but in terms of sex? he doesn't know what he's doing and he's probably really scared and nervous

worst part of canon: kevin and thea turning their daughter into a mini Raven 😔

worst part of fanon: Renee erasure 😔😔

fandom related words you've filtered: as of currently? anything tsc related because I don't have access to it yet and people aren't tagging properly. but I also have Rinee (rixo x renee) blocked because,,, what do you actually mean

unpopular character you like and why people should like them: Aaron. yeah he's an asshole and a little homophobic but he was raised that way and he's getting better

worst blorboification: if this means what i think it means, fucking riko. like wdym "he serves cunt" he needs to serve time

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you can't understand why this is popular: kevaaron, any riko ship, riko himself, ichirou x neil, andreil breaking up in fics ?

there should be more of this: fic: oral fixation. sexual or non sexual idc but let's Freud these bitches. fanart: ANDREW WITH LONG HAIR PLS PLS PLS

it's criminal that y'all have been sleeping on: STUART HATFORD. LITERALLY NEXT TO WYMACK ON THE FATHER FIGURE SCALE. I LOVE HIM

you're mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like: i don't feel guilt I'm Presbyterian

part of canon you found boring: anytime they were in class like wdym

part of canon you think is overhyped: this one is going to get me in trouble so i wanna start off by saying that yes, Riko was a victim of abuse. I'm not disputing that at all. but the part where he got beat by Tetsuji and "was more blood and bruise than skin", while being horrible, was also because of Kevin leaving due to Riko breaking his hand. Tetsuji lost one of his biggest investments because of Riko's petty ego

fav part of canon that everyone ignores: Stuart Hatford man

ship you've unwillingly come around to: Kandreil lol. i didn't like it at first but idk the more fanfic i see I'm like yeah that could be cute

topic that brings up the most rancid discourse: picture this, if you will: Nora Sakavic says something about her own damn characters. yeah that's all

common fandom complaint you're sick of hearing: "it's poorly written" it's not. if you can get over the first chapter of The Raven King, the rest is actually written very well and it's so so beautiful and depicts traumatized characters in a way I haven't seen before that is very refreshing

ty for the ask pinky ily

[feelingthedisaster]

Hello hi. I have no idea anything about the fandom you’re in, however I recognize a few names based off of the stuff you reblog. Mainly Aaron and Neil, I believe. So for that ask about characters could you tell me a bit about (either of) them?

hiii <3 <3

okay, so a lot of yapping alert cause im obssesed with those two little guys

aaron

How I feel about this character: i cannot physically stop thinking about him. he invades all my thoughts. he is basically my head roomie at this point. he is such an asshole. i love him. he is not normal and trying so hard to be which its a fact i cannot get over. also, he is the funniest motherfuxker alive and has been way before the bonus chapters, finally some recognition to my boy

All the people I ship romantically with this character: katelyn basically and only. tho i've read kevaaron/katekevaaron fics but i dont really ship them i just think the fics are neat

My non-romantic OTP for this character: hmmmmmmmmmmm. so hard to choose. i think he has a lot of potential with matt for a super cool friendship. i have him and andrew's sibling relationship rotating in my brain 24/6 (saturdays are aaron only) but the neilaaron bestfriendisims are so funny to read idk. AND nicky god. i need to crack open his parent-esque/cousin relationship. its impossible to deffine by normal standars, calling them cousins feels like it isnt enough and parent figure doesnt fit but they are family, and technically blood family but they are actually found family and and and

My unpopular opinion about this character: this opinion has actually becoming less unpopular since nora had to write text of the subtext but he isnt as homophobic as people make him to be. like, he isnt disgusted/feels hatred towards homosexuality he just dislikes neil and doesnt like the oversexualizating comments nicky makes. bc i mean, love nicky, but sometimes they are a little bit much. and yeah, he has internalized homophobia, he has even admitted it but i dont he externalizes it. the thing with neil is dislike towards neil/getting a reaction out to break the bros before hoes deal. (sorry i love calling it the bros before hoes deal its so funny, its their fault)

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: i want to see him break. like for real. super ugly. gimme whump. . gimme failing everything he work for. gimme relapse. gimme all the bad things that could happen and worse. (except the trial going badly, i cant handle that)

neil

How I feel about this character: neil josten neil josten neil josten neil josten neil josten. i cannot describe him. he is such a concept. i devore it like i've never eaten before. he is a bit of nathaniel and a bit of neil and he is both and he is all and he is everything. and he is a lie but its all true. and he doesnt care but he cares very much. he manipulates like he breathes and he crimes like its in his blood but that bad but that has a benefit but no no thats not. god. he sees people, he helps, he is a sweetheart with who he cares/needs but can be the absolute worst if he needs it. like, like, he makes me insane. i cant form coherent thoughts about him

All the people I ship romantically with this character: andrew. and that kinda it. maybe kandreil in a weird queerplatonic way but not romantic with kevin but like yk

My non-romantic OTP for this character: kevin. and jean. and dan. and wymack. and idk, everything and everyone. all his interpersonal relationships are so interesting to me.

My unpopular opinion about this character: i can remember anything right now? maybe like i dont like him and andrew getting married but idk.

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: mental health. shit has to affect him. he will never go to the therapy, its neil cmon, but that doesnt mean that shit doesnt happen and that his mental health is pristine and that there arent other things aside therapy. like, i want to explore more of everything that happened in the books affect him mental health-wise. not like a diagnosis/recovery but more like an exploration of his intricate issues

[queer-lovebot]

Could you make a part two of vanp kevin werewolf andrew and shapeshifter neil where andrew knots and marks kevin? Where neil watches and fucks kevin after? I just read that fic and I cannot get this idea out of my head, sorry! If you don't want to then that's alright as well! 😊

OP you have no idea. I have a little list of supernatural Kandreil prompts that I wanna do. I think Andrew deserves to knot Kevin and that Kevin deserves to be knotted. I think the first time they go through the knotting process, it’s just Kandrew. Because it’s such an intimate and careful thing. It’s testing a new level of trust of really testing how strong their walls are and whether or not they can handle it.

After though? Oh I’m sure Neil will bang Kevin sloppy after Andrew is done with him. He likes to be included and it’s amazing to watch the emotions pass over Kevin and Andrew’s faces. That is if he hasn’t come in his pants himself (likely thing for him to do)

[jean-meowreau]

Kandreil!!

Kevin is ace but weed works wonders. (Do not start fights about this. I am ace and get horny when I smoke. If you don't like it then just fuck off please I am begging.)

(read under the cut)

"D?" Neil calls out as he enters the house, Kevin in tow.

"Kitchen," Andrew calls back, turning off the sink and pausing the dishes he was working through.

The smell hits him before his two idiots make it into the kitchen and he pinches the bridge of his nose. "Neil-"

"No, hear me out," Neil says quietly as he sets his backpack on the counter. "We confiscated it from some freshman but my PT has said it could help with chronic pain-"

"Neil," Andrew says with a smile he can't hide. "You're a paranoid freak already, I don't think weed will alleviate that symptom."

Neil bites his lip and cuts his eyes, watching Andrew through his lashes as he says, "But I always feel safe with you and Kev..."

Andrew scowls, still trying to fight back an affectionate smile as he crosses the space and grabs Neil's face before pulling him down to face level. "Josten-"

"His red face means its a yes," Kevin says as he reaches for Neil's bag and pulls out the gram of bud wrapped in plastic.

"You two should be illegal, playing nasty to get your way."

Kevin smirks as he reaches around Neil to hook his finger beneath Andrew's jaw to tilt his head up so they can make eye contact. "Neil is your weakness, and I like to get my way."

"As if the answer was going to be anything but yes," Andrew scoffs, even as he dips his head down to kiss Kevin's palm. "Do you know anyone else who smokes weed and could help you two smoke this?" He asks with a quiet laugh.

"I bet we could figure it out!" Neil says defensively. "I watch you roll blunts all of the time."

"Yeah, but you're watching with your dick," Andrew says with a smirk. "And Kevin doesn't retain anything that isn’t history, exy, or history of exy."

"Not true! I remember birthdays and our anniversary."

"Things that you have calendar notifications for."

"November 4th, January 19th, and December 11th."

"I'm surprised, I can't lie," Andrew says as he pushes his way to stand between both taller men. He sets a small metal tray on the counter and holds his hand out for the bag that Kevin passes over. "How angry would you be if I asked this freshman where they got this from?" Andrew says, laughing at the annoyed look on Kevin's face. "It smells really good, I'm just surprised. You two might need to take it slow since it's your first time smoking."

Kevin makes a quiet noise in disagreement. "Not mine."

Andrew perks his brow, but Neil gawks at Kevin. "What!? When!"

"There were a couple of hazings Riko and I went through when we were officially initiated. Smoking and brownies. And some other drugs. Don't really remember what else."

"You sure you'll be okay to smoke, then?" Andrew asks gently, pausing his twisting of the grinder.

"Yeah, better times. We used to suffer together a bit more."

Andrew nods and shifts so Neil can plaster himself to Kevin's side, press against him and offer some relief. Andrew looks over at them and smiles. "Go ahead and sit down on the couch, you two. I'll be in there."

Neil grabs Kevin's waist and gently pulls him from the kitchen. Andrew rolls two blunts, makes sure they're carefully sealed, stows the tray, and when he makes it into the living room, Neil is settled in Kevin's lap, back to front, as they watch whatever is on the TV. He turns it off and sits on the coffee table opposite. "I need full attention before we get started," Andrew says quietly, waiting for both men's eyes to meet his own. "You will listen to me. You can smoke up to what I say and no more unless I say so. Kevin, you've got a bit more leeway because you drink. Neil," Andrew pauses and grabs his chin. "You will be extra careful and be good and listen to me, won't you?"

Neil swallows thickly and nods, his eyes hooded as he leans into Andrew's touch. He was always so quick to fold to affectionate touch. He must already be close to gone if he's been sitting in Kevin's lap since they left the kitchen. As if Kevin could read his mind, he gives Andrew a simple nod and he shakes his head as he bites back an affectionate smile.

"Neil."

"...Yeah?"

"How gone are you already?"

"I wanna smoke," Neil says, the barest hint of a whine in his voice as he squirms on Kevin's lap.

"I know, you will," Andrew says with a small laugh. "We just have to keep a special eye on you." Andrew strokes his thumb across Neil's check, and he and Kevin make a soft sound at the sight of Neil sinking down and closing his eyes.

Andrew lets go and watches Neil sink the rest of the way into Kevin's chest. He doesn’t last long, not when he hears the flick of a lighter. It's endearing in a way, watching the two of them cough through their first couple of hits. How Neil grabs his sides and curls into Kevin, how Kevin tries and fails to hold it back and ends up coughing louder than if he'd just listened to Andrew in the first place.

When he's satisfied both men have had enough for their first time, just to test their tolerance, Andrew sits back on the coffee table and smokes the rest of the blunt while watching the two of them sink into each other and the couch. He notices Kevin's hands moving, the way he starts petting up and down Neil's chest and abdomen, fingers dipping under his shirt and tracing over his toned torso. Neil's pupils have nearly swallowed his irises, and he's stuck in a loop of looking at Kevin's hands on himself and then hungrily raking his eyes across Andrew's body. And when he meets Andrew's gaze, his cheeks flush a darker red and he looks away almost immediately, back to Kevin's hands on his body. Over and over until he spreads his legs open across Kevin's and whispers, "You gotta stop."

"Why?" Kevin says with a slight pout and a pointed gentle scratch of his nails down Neil's abs, relishing in the way his back arches and he moans softly at the touch.

"A-Are you-?"

"Yeah," Kevin says with a slow smile. "I'm feeling you up. Feeling horny."

Andrew snorts at the simple dialogue between his two partners. "So you both get horny when you smoke."

"Is that bad?" Neil asks, eyes going wide.

"No," Andrew says with a grin. "I'm just surprised it got Kevin, is all."

"You should be grateful for any boner you get out of me," Kevin huffs out, reaching across the way for Andrew's wrist before tugging, encouraging him to join them on the couch. When he side steps, planning to side beside them, both Neil and Kevin make quiet sounds of protest before coaxing Andrew to straddle Neil's waist. Kevin grunts under the new weight, but his smile is easy and he lets his eyes fall shut. "I like this."

"Of course you do," Andrew says with a snort. He lights the second joint and gently guides Neil away from trying to take a hit. When his pout only grows and he starts whining, Andrew sighs in defeat and grabs his chin. "We're going to try something."

Neil nods enthusiastically, shifting beneath Andrew. Kevin moans softly at the feeling, hands flying to Neil's waist, whose jaw is dropped. "D, he's hard."

"Yeah?" Andrew says with an easy grin. "Princess?"

Kevin blinks open bleary eyes. "What?"

"Do you want some help?"

"Not now. Maybe later," Kevin hums, shifting one hand to settle his large, warm palm against the top of Andrew's thigh and give a squeeze. His thumb reaches down to rub circles against the sensitive skin on the inside of Andrew's thigh. He shivers but makes a happy sound at the feeling, spreading his legs a bit wider. Kevin tries and fails to hold back a grin as he slides his hand higher, thumb dipping under the edge of Andrew's shorts. "Right. You get horny when you smoke."

Andrew huffs out a somewhat embarrassed noise but he doesn’t deny the accusation. He instead reaches for the second blunt and lights it. The end crackles to life, ash curling outwards just barely as the ring of light moves down with the hit Andrew takes. He sits back a bit from Neil and tries not to look too smug with himself as he blows a few smoke rings above their heads. When he looks back, baby blues are fixated on his mouth. "Neil?"

"...Yeah?"

"Where are you at, rabbit?"

"Wanna kiss you..."

Andrew chuckles quietly. "Do you want a little more smoke?"

Neil mulls it over, and pulls Andrew into a kiss before dropping his lips down to his neck. "Enough left to share?"

"Plenty to share."

"May I have a few more?" Neil asks, words ghosting across Andrew's skin as he drags his lips up the curve of Andrew's neck before gently biting at his bottom lip.

"You sure as fuck can," Andrew mutters, somewhat out of breath, before he takes a hit from the blunt. Neil was plenty high, but he knew they would both want a chance at the second blunt, and Andrew would be lying to himself if he hadn't immediately pictured what he was about to do. He takes a handful of Neil's hair and steadies him before leaning in and connecting their lips. He pushes his tongue into the redhead's mouth, laughing into the kiss at the desperate way Neil moans and greedy hands that had been on Andrew's thighs grab his face. Neil pushes up into him, well after the smoke is gone, mapping the entirety of Andrew's mouth. He's been rubbing their tongues together for a few seconds when Andrew tightens the grip on his hair and pulls back, keeping Neil from surging forward.

"Andrew!" he gasps out, fingers shaking as he tries to pull the blond back in.

"What about Kevin, Neil? He deserves a chance, too, don't you think?"

Neil makes a quiet sound of protest even as he deflates against Kevin. He turns his attention to him, reaching behind his neck for an anchor point as he turns and sloppily kisses at his neck. Kevin shudders, even Andrew can feel it, and he grins before taking a slow hit from the blunt. Neil's hooded eyes are tracking their movements, and he sits back to watch as Andrew presses their lips together. Kevin arches beneath Neil, the hand on Andrew's thigh trailing up the blond's body before settling over his chest. He slowly fists the material of hi shirt as the kiss deepens, leaning up and pulling Andrew down closer. He isn’t as successful receiving the smoke, most of it vacating between them as Kevin bites at Andrew's lips and then runs the tip of his tongue along the length of the top of his mouth. This time Andrew's eyes are bleary when he reopens them and both men are staring up at him with smug, blasted smiles.

"Shut the fuck up," Andrew mutters before taking another hit. He lets it out of his mouth and breathes it back in his nose before finally blowing it up towards the ceiling, tilting his head back. He isn’t surprised when Neil attaches himself to his neck, but Kevin tugging him down so he can join has Andrew moaning, gasping each of their names. He finally rocks his hips down against the bulge he's been pretending not to notice in Neil's pants. One set of teeth dig into his neck with a reedy whine, and Andrew mirrors the sound. "I'm going to have to wear turtlenecks for ages."

Neil makes a quiet, annoyed sound. "Let people see your neck with our marks."

"I don't like people we don't know to know what we get up to. They are for us, only," Andrew says in a low voice. He isn’t angry, but he's firm. "They are my hickeys, no one else."

Neil shivers beneath him and nods, jaw dropped as he moans weakly. Andrew takes a quick hit and blows the smoke into his mouth, laughing as he leans away from the attempt at a kiss. "We have to make it through this so it doesn’t go to waste."

"You're so right," Neil whispers, shaking his head before nodding. Kevin tries to stifle a laugh, but he's quickly shaking with quiet giggles as he wraps his arms around the two men in his lap and crushes them against his chest.

"I love you," he mutters as he moves his face from Neil's neck to Andrew's. They both return the sentiment before Andrew takes another hit and leans towards Kevin. He shakes his head slightly. "I'm comfortable. You should keep kissing Neil, though. He makes the prettiest noises."

Andrew winks and looks at Neil, whose jaw is dropped slightly and his chest is rising and falling rapidly. But his eyes are trained on Andrew's lips, he watches Neil lick his own before scarred hands grab his face and yank him in for a messy kiss.

"Know what else you should do?" Kevin whispers as he trails his fingers up Andrew's thighs again, loving the way the muscles jump beneath his fingers. "You should cum like this. You're both so high and horny I doubt we could make it to the room."

Andrew cuts dark eyes over to Kevin, and when Neil breaks the kiss to immediately start biting and kissing at Andrew's neck, he asks, "Yes or no, Neil?"

"I'm yours. Anything you want."

Andrew and Kevin both make somewhat feral sounding noises in kind. Andrew's hands are both fisted in Neil's hair now, pulling him back up for another kiss, Kevin dutifully holding the still burning blunt as Andrew takes out his built up sexual tension on Neil's mouth and hair. His hips shift and this time Neil rocks up to meet him halfway and the two of them moan brokenly into the kiss. Kevin uses his free hand to dip between Andrew's legs again and pull his shorts to the side just enough to rub the pad of his finger in a circle around his dick. Andrew collapses against Neil, his thighs shaking as he ruts forward against Kevin's fingers after grabbing his wrist and shifting his hand for better friction. A few rocks of his hips and then he lets go, collapsed against Neil's chest and gasping for air.

"I-I think that's the fastest he's ever--"

"Neil, you've got to get inside him," Kevin breathes out. "Fuck."

"Sure you don't want?" Neil asks quietly, just checking in. Kevin nods before turning to kiss him.

"Probably just want a hand today. But I need to see you fucking him."

"Anyone gonna ask what I want?" Andrew asks breathlessly.

"Yes. Me. I always want to know what you want, D."

Andrew hums quietly and kisses Neil again briefly. "Shut up before I get any harder."

"No, keep talking, Neil," Kevin goads, nudging Andrew away so he can kiss the corner of Neil's mouth before asking, "What would you like to do, Andrew?"

"I wanna ride him, right here and now."

"Jesus fucking-- shit, fuck--!" Neil gasps out, hands flying to Andrew's waist before crushing him against his chest. "Yes, fuck yes!"

“Yeah?” Andrew huffs out, still shaking as Kevin runs his fingers back and forth across his cunt, dipping in just the tip of his middle finger. “G-Get a condom.”

Kevin hands Andrew the blunt, and the hit he just took is coughed out as Kevin produces a condom from his pocket. “You fucking planned this, didn’t you?” He asks as he turns his head away, still coughing. Kevin just hums, but there’s a rather smug, pleased look on his face as he hands Neil the condom. He tears it with his teeth and makes a shaky sound as Andrew unbuttons and unzips his pants before pulling his cock out. The head is flushed, pre is pooling at the slit, and Andrew curses under his breath as he rubs his thumb across and watches the pre connected to his thumb as he pulls it away from the head. “Fucking– fuck me, Neil.”

“Andrew, I-I’m not gonna last–”

“Then get the fucking rubber on so you can cum inside me.”

Neil curses under his breath, hands shaking as he slides the latex down his length. “Andrew–”

“You want to keep smoking, don’t you?” Andrew huffs as he gets up on his knees. “Hold your dick for me, Neil. There you go, good boy–”

Neil uses his free hand to cover Andrew’s mouth, breathing hard as he reaches back between their bodies. “Smoke. Less words. Gonna– Andrew–!”

“Yeah, yeah, I got you,” Andrew whispers, taking a hit from the blunt that Kevin was still holding. He leans in and kisses Neil as he slowly sinks down on his length. He doesn’t get any of the smoke, his jaw dropped as he collapses back against Kevin’s chest. His eyes are closed, lips parted, and Andrew shifts and starts kissing along the length of Neil’s jaw as he sits fully in his lap. “Neil–”

“No. No talking,” Neil gasps, hands flying to Andrew’s hips when he shifts in his lap. “Gimme a second, D.”

Andrew hums and takes another hit from the blunt in Kevin’s hand, letting himself be guided to kiss him after. Smoke tendrils snake out between their mouths as Kevin cups Andrew’s cheek and deepens the kiss. He shifts beneath Neil before reaching with his free hand to grab one of his hips and guide him to thrust up into Andrew. Both men above Kevin collapse against him, moaning loudly. “Do I really have to be the one to fuck Andrew?” Kevin teases quietly, turning to kiss Neil’s temple.

“M-Maybe,” Neil breathes out, whining high in the back of his throat as Andrew raises up and then slowly lowers himself back down.

“You should watch him fuck himself, instead,” Kevin murmurs, running his hand up Neil’s chest before grabbing his jaw. “Open your eyes, Neil. Come on.”

Neil shivers, his nails biting into Andrew’s waist as he slowly peeks his eyes open. The second he catches sight of Andrew’s face – brow furrowed, jaw dropped, a bright flush creeping down his neck, Neil immediately screws his eyes shut again. He bucks his hips up, gasping out Andrew’s name as the blond collapses against his chest.

“Do that again Neil.”

“Fuck,” is all he can reply, shifting beneath Andrew and securing his grip before giving a solid thrust upwards. He sets a steady pace, head thrown back against Kevin's shoulder. Every thrust is accented by a quiet, barely there moan that Andrew tries muffling against Neil's chest. Kevin lets them have a few minutes, Neil having to pause and readjust his grip every so often. When Andrew's noises start growing in volume, Kevin lifts Andrew's head so his chin is resting against Neil's shoulder. He puts the blunt between Andrew's lips and carefully lights it, watching small clouds billow out every time Neil thrusts in especially hard. When he pulls it away, Kevin leans forward and slowly connects their lips, licking his way into Andrew's mouth. This time Andrew is the reason most of the smoke escapes, moaning loudly as Neil starts moving his hips in a half circle every time his own come flush with the backs of Andrew's thighs.

Neil makes a quiet sound and grabs Andrew's jaw, pulling him from Kevin to crash their mouths together as he gives a last few thrusts inside before spilling into the condom. Andrew slowly sits up, cupping Neil's face gingerly as they rest with their foreheads together, gasping each other's air, occasionally managing to kiss the other briefly.

"Andrew?" Kevin asks quietly as he ashes the blunt. "Want another orgasm?"

"Five orgasms is so many," Andrew pants, but he grabs Kevin's wrist sitting on his thigh and directs it between his legs.

""F-Five!?" Neil manages, grabbing Andrew's jaw to turn him back to make eye contact.

"You're... really good at fucking me," Andrew whispers, eyes fluttering shut as Kevin settles the heel of his palm against his dick, fingers slotted on either side of Neil's cock still buried in his cunt.

"He's so fucking good," Kevin agrees, rubbing in small circles, slowly building Andrew up, "He kept grinding against me and I came in my pants like a fucking teenager."

Neil chokes on a sound, hands flying to Andrew's hips before he's fucking up into him again, trembling between both men.

Andrew makes a shaky sound, trying to peek up at Kevin. "Y-You just got him to cum twice... fucking hell, Kevin. You're not allowed weed. It makes you too p-po-Oh, fuck!"

Kevin is grinning, too smug for his own good but oh so fucking well deserved, well earned, as he shifts his hand and gently strokes his fingers against either side of Andrew's dick, milking him through his orgasm as he kisses across his nose and cheeks. Neil is rubbing his back, still breathing hard, shifting and moaning quietly at the way Andrew is clenching around his cock. "D--"

"I know, sorry," Andrew whispers, shifting in his lap before lifting himself just enough for Neil's cock to slip free. Kevin pulls the condom off carefully and ties it off before tossing it onto an old newspaper on the coffee table.

"Nap time?"

"We need to clean up--" Andrew starts, trying to open his eyes as he shifts on Neil's lap, but Kevin grabs his hips and still his movements.

"No, it's okay. Let's rest and then we can all shower together."

"Your clothes..." Andrew says, denying to heaven above and hell below that he whines about the idea of Kevin being uncomfortable.

"It's okay. I'm comfortable. My head is fuzzy. I want to enjoy this."

Andrew nods and tucks his face against the curve of Neil's neck before dropping his hands lower to hold Kevin's waist. "Okay. Wake me up when it's time to move."

[jeanmoreaue]

My personal reason I can’t get into Kandreil is just bc yes I don’t read Kevin as being into either of them but also I didn’t feel like Neil was into Kevin like that either, like yes he admires him and his skill but it didn’t read as attraction to me the way Neil’s interactions with Andrew did even before things kicked off between them. His preoccupation felt genuinely platonic, i guess? So when I’ve tried to read Kandreil I just didn’t vibe with it, bc even if the fic succeeded in making me believe Kevin could have those feelings, the Neil parts of it all usually didn’t feel right enough for me to suspend my disbelief that far, if that makes sense

oh yeah i definitely agree i like to joke about Neil’s stalker binder of Kevin, but he was jealous of this seemingly glamorous life that Kevin had doing the things Neil wasn’t allowed to do (exy). i don’t think it was actually bc he found Kevin hot, he doesn’t even comment on Kevin’s looks (demi king) especially compared to the way Jean describes Kevin lol

this isn’t what you asked but i find it funny that Neil isn’t more jealous of Jean/doesn’t know that Jean exists in tfc. Jean essentially took Neil’s place lol in the perfect court and Neil didn’t know about The Horrors, just that Jean got to hang out with Kevin and Riko all the time. so to me i would think he’d be more jealous of Jean lol. i wonder if it’s just a writing thing or if Jean is really not that well-known

[codename-adler]

7, 10, 16 for the aftg ask game!

- @you-know-i-get-itt

for u also @minyard-05 @problemduetest4life @dangmichael / @millportisntreal <3

AFTG Ask Game

7. Part of the story you want expanded / have more knowledge of?

*i have not read the EC so apologies if some part of it covers what i'm about to answer

- The Upperclassmen, specifically Matt, Allison & Seth. How Matt fell and Seth fell into drug addiction; how Ally developed ED and found Exy; how their families are, how they got away and/or overcame, what wounds they have left… And their past relationships too, and how Sethallison came to be and evolved/degraded…

- Young Mary. How she was before marrying Nathan, how the horror started, how she became once she learned she was pregnant with Neil…

10. First impression of the series vs now?

oooh tough… going on 5 years of obsession now and it hasn’t stopped or dimmed for a single millisecond… though i haven’t done a reread in a minute, so perhaps i’ll say that distance from canon helps overcome/forget the absolute paralyzing pain and agony and tragedy of it all… TSC undid that tho. completely shattered me and had me ugly sobbing on the floor. i did recover quicker than when i first read AFTG, so perhaps what changed is me and the years of maturity? 🥹 yuck.

16. Your take on a new AFTG book (focused on an existing character)

the obvious answer is Her Majesty the Queen Kevin Day, Son of Exy. we could get the Riko death aftermath, the Jean transfer, the Aaron trial, the Thea developments. AND access to bbg’s psyche??? sign me tf up.

but. i’m not like other girls… eurk.

i want Robin Cross. an outside pov of an older, settled Andreil? a female pov??? a new Fox navigating the Exy world forever changed by Neil, Andrew, Kevin, Jean, Riko, Jeremy? i just love her so much. so much. i want to see her bloom. i want to see what she becomes under the mentoring of Kandreil. I NEED HER. MY POOKIE. MY LOVEY DOVEY. 😩

[deklo]

As someone who enjoys the aftg books but isn't in the fandom, following you and seeing glimpses of aftg fandom culture is baffling. People are horny for... Wymack? Am I reading these books wrong? Lmao

LOL i would say it’s probably a little rare and i think it’s more leaning into the whole dilf thing 😭 ive always liked wymack as a character but i wouldn’t say im horny for him djfnfjfn. but i’m sure there are some people who are :) i just like fandom and shipping and playing around with characters hehe. also, although there are a lot of non-canon ships that are popular in the fandom (kevaaron, renison, kandreil) i feel like it’s only really recently that ive seen people on here branch out and experiment with more rare ships (definitely not new in general but i think it’s becoming more common idk! i could be wrong!)

[jaywalkers]

hiii i recently finished reading sunset like survival (it was so so so fucking good. epic. amazing. is living in the most inner part of my ribs being cradled gently !!!!!!) and i was v bewitched and fascinated by how u handled andrew choking kevin and the consequences in each subsequent loop ! the guilt andrew felt and anger as well towards kevin for not like idk defending himself properly ? (sorry if that’s the wrong word) say no basically . the way kevin assumed their deal was broken bcs andrew hurt him and the betrayal suffocating him GOD ,,,,,,, and how they grew from it just wow wow wow laying at the bottom of ur feet looking up at u in wonder rn !!!!! i could FEEL the choking incident hovering above the two of them like a cloud and to see it resolved in a way that didn’t quite erase it entirely but allowed them to perhaps move on from it ? truly stunning ,,,,

did u have any specific thoughts on why u chose it to be a major focal point during the loop, ur thoughts on how it was handled in canon ( the way it was moved on from ? treated humorously) and anything else rlly that comes to mind ? also i love all ur writing sm <3 the way i’m able to immerse myself in ur fics and see the way u breathe life into these characters is beautiful. truly. ily 💖

ah! first of all thank you so much for not only reading s,ls, but also for loving it as much as you did! it's always such an honour that people took time to experience the gender-crisis fuelled monstrosity that is timeloop au even two years out.

to answer your two questions: (under a cut bcs she's LONG)

i don't like how it's handled in canon, and while i accept it and love to see other people's takes on it (how it is/isn't in character, that it proves/detracts from kevins role), i personally think it's out of character for andrew and is a point of no return for the kandreil dynamic that i love.

the baltimore scenes are the inherent breakdown of the kandreil dynamic; by the end of tkm, it's wildly different to how it was at the start of the novel and not in a way that serves kevin's character well (or even andrew, really). with andrew and kevin's deal percived to be broken and all neil's secrets out in the open, there's no need for kevin to be a part of that dynamic when it comes to the character-driven plot, only the moriyama narrative. andreil become the most prevalent dynamic, and kevin is detatched — shut out, really, right before the apex of his character arc. neil and andrew base their following opinions of him based on his choices during baltimore and give him little further choices.

during/following the choking incident, as seen in kevin and andrew's tiff on the court a few chapters later, andrew wants kevin to prove that he can stand up for himself without andrew's help — maybe to justify breaking the deal off on his end, or out of frustration with kevin. what he doesn't understand is that kevin has a formal relationship with violence, especially as a punishment. he won't — he was groomed not to. that ultimately leaves them at an impasse until kevin gets his tattoo, part of his character narrative that neil and andrew for once are not there to witness because they've excluded him from their inner dynamic by this point in the plot.

so why did i posit it as a major focal point in the loop?

first of all, i'd already decided to set it in the baltimore 'arc', and within that for kandreil in canon there are two key events that influence the rest of the plot, and in my mind the loop happens because these two events are so out of character for the universe that they warp reality. and those two events are:

neil dying (kidnapping)

andrew choking kevin

ergo — both of these things need to be fixed to fix the loop. the loop in my opinion does actually help facilitate that second one, because for kevin and andrew to help neil they cannot be at odds. kevin and andrew's pov's are first because they cannot fix neil's problem without first fixing their own, and that has always been the one of equal standing between them.

andrew wants kevin to stand up for himself and kevin wants to not be afraid. similar things but different at the core of them. the loop forces them into close proximity — kevin is always near andrew's hands and andrew is always near the reminder that he hurt someone who did not deserve it. bridging that is a way of andrew learning that he can relearn trust, and kevin learning he doesn't have to forgive to stop fearing something.

also the loop allows andrew to see that kevin wasn't withholding information because he doesn't care about neil — he was withholding it because he cares about neil. kevin sees that andrew hurt him not because he doesn't care about kevin, but because he was so blinded by fear for neil. it puts them eye to eye and forces them to put things out in the open at a pace that suits them, with a static environment they can't escape. i don't like the choking scene — but it lends well to forcing andrew and kevin to air all their other grievances alongside it.

i hope this all makes sense!!!!!! again thank you thank you thank you for reading it and loving it and engaging in it so fervently! s,ls is a fever dream of a fic but i do dearly adore it and im so glad someone wanted to hear me character dump for a few hundred words about it <333 get off anon so i can kiss you on the lips

[broken-heart-raven-queen]

Sooo I'll update you a little (?

I'm still brainroting on AFTG, of course, I have read almost all te kandreil fics, I need more. But now my Haikyuu obsession rivals with that.

My main HQ ships are: Atsuhina, Kuroken, Oisuga, Osayama, Teruyama and Bokuaka but as always I'm a multishipper and I ship each character with like other 3 so yeah, I could talk about them all.

I'm finishing book 4 of TGCF and I need to start book 3 of the FBAA spin-off for my marathon but at least I have all the books now.

My birthday was last month and I did a lot of unresponsable shopping sorrounding this fandoms and also my friends gifted me some prints for my wall✨️

And... I think that's all.