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captainkingsley · 4 months ago
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I don't need fics to be 100% accurate, time period wise, besides, this is X-Men, nothing makes sense, I say, and then agonize over what year to set this wolverine/hercules fic in
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phoenixyfriend · 4 years ago
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Yet Another “Deidara is Related to Naruto” Fic Concept
Okay so you know how Deidara is the only person in canon to share Naruto and Minato's highlighter yellow hair? And there's all those fics where Dei is Naruto's half brother?
So let’s flip that a bit.
(Once again with help from @firebirdeternal​)
Thought being this: Minato was an Iwa infiltrator's mission baby, and Dei is Minato's ludicrously younger half-sibling who ends up in Minato's care for hand-wave reasons.
Ends up screwing the whole plot because Minato and his team have to pass on the Kannabi mission due to Infant Acquisition.
(Minato having to deal with "Explosions!" the Toddler is... really funny. Kakashi and Obito don't have a Dramatic Death-based falling out they just have to bond over babysitting the world's least safe child.)
I have two (2) ideas on how Deidara ends up in Minato's care. One is more of a shitpost than the other.
We’ll start with the Serious Drama idea.
There was an Iwa nin that went undercover in Konoha at some point, slept around a bit, got someone pregnant, and dipped before they had to take responsibility. Said Iwa nin was aware of the kid, but also like. Undercover. And also a dick. And like sixteen.
Anyway, Minato's mom never told him about his dad beyond "he was a jerk who ditched us, I don't have photos," and then died on a mission when Minato was relatively young, so Minato didn't know just WHERE his dad was from.
Fast forward a solid twenty-five years or so, and that Iwa nin has gotten married. Iwa nin is now early forties, married a somewhat younger woman (thirties), and caused a pregnancy, this time with the intent to stick around.
Unfortunately, Iwa nin is a shitty husband, and his wife only realizes this most of the way into the pregnancy, and can't just divorce him, because she's clan (the husband is not), and that sort of thing has Social Consequences. So she does something risky... and fakes her death.
And then proceeds to go to Konoha, because she knows about Minato, even saw a pic and got his name once because her husband got a little tipsy once and talked about it, and admitted that he'd gotten a buddy in infiltration to snap a photo a few years back.
And so Deidara's mom sneaks her way across the continent, and dies shortly before or after arriving in Konoha. It’s somewhere the dad won't follow if he realizes she's alive, and because what little she's heard about Minato at that point is generally not terrible. The war hasn't ramped up enough for him to pull The Bullshit, so all she has is the info that the infiltration buddies got her husband.
Definitely lives long enough to provide a name and basic info on who the relative is, but dies before Minato gets back from a mission.
Alternately, Jiraiya is the one who does the intelligence legwork necessary to figure out all the connections and then drops Baby Deidara in Minato's lap because Family is Important to orphans like them but then also does nothing to help because he is Jiraiya.
AND NOW THE CRACK OPTION
So most of the How Babies Happen backstory is technically the same, but Deidara arriving in Konoha is not an intentional situation, but rather a sealing mishap.
As one does.
Kushina just wanted to use a seal to locate other Uzumaki survivors and Minato figured he'd test it first since his chakra is less volatile and whoops.
Minato: Hey, maybe I'll find out who my dad is!
The seal was supposed to just give them a general direction and distance. Like "36.2 miles, 32.3 degrees east of north. 73.9 miles, 2.5 degrees south of west." etc
It was not supposed to reverse summon An Entire Baby.
Note, Deidara’s exploding chakra is a kekkei genkai that I'm saying he got from his mom because Minato doesn't have it, but the hands are likely the kinjutsu. That said, I want Minato to be like "Ah. Hand mouths. That's... can someone get Tsunade please?"
Kushina: I'm not an expert on babies, so I could be wrong, but is this normal??
Kushina: I deeply hope that was a thing the baby already had before we accidentally pulled it through seal-space.
Kushina: His hair is like yours? Maybe he's like a cousin or a nephew? Minato: I guess??? Should. Should we figure out how to send him back? His parents must be freaking out. Kushina: Uhhhhhhh [handwave reason to keep the baby]
The scene HAS TO boil down to Kushina going "Wait shit are we parents now?"
Minato: No! I mean, I--I want to, yes, eventually, but I wasn't planning on anything this soon and really we should get married first and also I think this is technically my brother and--
I had two ideas for why they wouldn’t immediately try to send Dei back, and Birdie offered one, but here’s the best option IMO.
Deidara's chakra blows up the seal before they can figure out how to reverse what they did. Before they can even analyze what went wrong.
They kept notes but something something spilled ink idk. They gotta start from scratch.
Equally likely: They kept notes but they're basically grad students and those notes were all done in a caffeine-fueled 36-hour Coding Binge and literally not even Master-Sealer-Master-Codebreaker Jiraiya can decipher what the fuck they were doing, let alone them.
Frankly they just can't unscramble this egg so they have to just Do Their Best
They have to get a blood test done by Tsunade or Oro to figure out who this kid even is. The hair helps but??? Whomst are you, child?
And then Jiraiya's like 'Yeah, I know those hands. Kid's from Iwa.'
And the war’s already underway so they can’t admit to accidentally stealing an Iwa child.
There's not really a way to say "Hey we accidentally kidnapped this baby" and still save political face because nobody is going to believe it was an accident anyways so? I guess we just have this baby now.
Probably there’s a name tag on his shirt or something so he’s still Deidara.
Kushina: Minato, seriously, you're old enough to be the baby's dad, just have him call you tou-chan. Minato: But!!! Kushina: We can make Uzumaki babies later, take care of your technically-brother baby now.
Naruto is born and Kushina's just like "How strong are your family's hair genes???"
Technically-uncle Deidara who is like Naruto's older brother is going to be the worst influence on the Chaos baby.
Never let Obito babysit.
Naruto: I want to do pranks. Deidara: I want to explosions. Obito: Seems reasonable. Let's do it!
Anyway, Obito and Deidara never know what kind of ‘friendship’ they had in the other timeline.
Meanwhile, Rin is so ready to help, like she’s not exactly a huge fan of babies or kids, not like Obito is, but she is determined to help and keeps looking up child growth charts and stuff.
Kakashi is terrified that he’s going to break a baby.
Kakashi does not want to hold the baby.
Kakashi does not want to be in the same room as the baby.
Kakashi is going to sit on the outside wall with a sword and make sure nobody hurts the baby, but he will not go near the baby.
Deidara’s like four years older than Naruto and probably Kushina has him hang out with Itachi since Kushina visits Mikoto so often and Mikoto’s already had her first.
Deidara does not like Itachi.
It’s fine.
Being a 'new dad' doesn't excuse Minato from being involved in the war effort but it does change his schedule up enough to miss Kannabi and I stand by this.
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dappersheep · 4 years ago
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Food Fantasy: An Analysis on what killed a Golden Goose (1/3)
So first things first, disclaimers! I do not claim nor pretend to know every nook and cranny, ins and outs of the history of FooFan's conception, existence and uncertain future. I do not own the game nor its characters, only the opinions and thoughts stated hereon out.
This was born to vent out my frustrations with how a game like this was abused poorly by its own developer and publisher instead of being nurtured to become its full potential that could have overshadowed and remained better than the likes of Tencent's Tales of Food --I could dream, but it honestly had the potential to be.
Out of respect for the main tag, I personally will not be tagging this post and the following two with the main tag. If you want to tag it yourself with it, that's your choice. Only followers of my blog will see this.
This analysis is divided into three parts: Funtoy, Elex, and the Community. It starts under the cut. Well let's get started.
Funtoy
Ah yes, the creator. The developer. You'd think that with their sudden rise to fame during their global launch, they'd have used the massive profits they earned within the first quarter of 2018 to improve certain things about the game and then trickled it down as quickly as possible towards Global, right? Yeah, I thought so too.
After playing the game since launch, I've seen and experienced way too many things that just hammer in the fact that this is one of the most unfair gacha I've played in years. Some reasons being the following:
(Note: These are experiences ONLY on Global's version, it may also apply to CN being the original server)
⦁ The game's gacha model is aimed towards maximum predation on its players. F2p are forced to either spend some money (and thus tempt them to keep spending after getting a taste of it), or risk not even getting a good ascension of the unit to be useful at all. Paying for the event packs also doesn't guarantee that you would be able to secure a spot in the ranks. In fact, if you can't comprehend how the battle mechanics work, you could even de-rank. Fun way to burn that 800$, huh? At least you have the skin from rebates.
⦁ A little less known thing and probably theoretical at worst, the long joked about spaghetti coding of the game along with an outdated spine technology for the sprites could very well be the reason why a 2D game like this experiences the shittiest lags. Also how easy it is to hack this game with the right know-how.
⦁ Speaking of bad gameplay mechanics, did you know you could spend over fifty Mirrors and not get that final enhancement from +9 to +10 simply because there's absolutely no tangible safety net before +10?
⦁ If you're F2P, this game is terrible in giving you resources to stockpile. Because Funtoy certainly doesn't have a lot of weekly/monthly or even friendly events wherein you can get resources without spending another kind of resource. The Hawthorne event's rewards are lackluster at best, Bingo is severely limited in what it gives, and Recall also doesn't give much for a big event that only happens (supposedly) every 6 months. Did I also mention that daily resource rewards also kinda suck compared to how much you burn in just one event?
⦁ Monthly subs are a scam. Yes, you heard that right. My point of comparison here is Arknights. A monthly in AK allows you to have enough to 10-pull after 30 days, on top of a bit of stamina to help you. In FooFan? You have two monthly subs that do different things and even then, you won't have enough to 10-pull by the end of 30 days, nor is the stamina you get enough to even stockpile and ease the pressure of your need to save for the Gates or that stamina event that suddenly popped up.
⦁ A conga line of 'Must procure this unit at a high ascension to do well in the following events!'. You missed the first Pizza event? Missed the first Turkey event? God forbid, you weren't able to 5* your Beer on his debut? Well sorry, that 5* Black Tea of yours isn't gonna do squat to give you good damage. No, your 2* B-52 also isn't going to do much of anything with his lackluster damage capabilities. If you want a chance to get those event URs again, you have to wait for their pool with laughably limited pulls... and a bloated price to even pull.
⦁ The events starting after the first iteration of Turkey event get even more paywalled. As far as I remember, by the time Minestrone rolled around, an F2P with ample crystal resources can only get 2* at best. 3* and above are paywalled.
⦁ The game has incompetent balancing. The devs themselves likely have little experience in gameplay design and balancing, especially for a game with a growing roster of characters . A prime example of them launching a character not knowing it would pretty much unbalance the game? Look no further than Beer. The guy had to have a couple of nerfs done to him because he was just too meta. You know what's sadder? Before the 'switch' to Brave meta, almost all meta units was built to benefit off the Beer meta.
⦁ Artifacts. Do I even have to explain how the introduction of such a game feature so early into the lifespan of this game essentially fucked over the balance even more? Not to mention, all the more reason you'd be crying with the Gates of Trials demanding so much out of your stamina and crystal resources. F2Ps are again, the ones that suffer in this part. What's their reason? Profit, of course.
⦁ The nerf of resto chests. This was the primary source for people who were saving up stamina for the Gates... until Funtoy decided they were being too generous to their playerbase and dropped the stamina probability rate to 1% or less.
⦁ Terrible UI layout and design. Come on, be honest now, you've lost several thousand of your hard earned crystals buying screws in the fishing shop because you didn't notice that shiny warning in small text and a green button with the crystal image slapped on it, didn't you?
⦁ Look at all these SRs! All of them! Wow, they even outnumber the Rs by at least 80! What's that? There's more URs now too compared to Rs and Ms combined? That can't be real. But seriously, you'd think Funtoy could make some of these SRs into Rs and add them to the perm pool/shard fusion so people aren't stuck pulling Macaron or Dorayaki every time. They could have also populated the Team Up rewards with SRs instead of Rs. But you know... that won't bring them profit. Haha... haha.... Oh and I haven't even told you about the SP class...!
⦁ Lore. Yes, I'm sure by now you're aware that the in-game lore is different from the ones in the non-SP Food Soul bios, in the SP Food Soul bios that sort of ties in with the New World story (that global will never be getting btw). At this point, Funtoy handwaves the confusion away by saying, 'they're all different timelines'. Yes yes, an easy and cliche move to explain how shitty the writing direction went after a while. I don't know what happened, all I know is that lore got weird(er) when they introduced SP Rice.
⦁ They. Keep. Adding. More. Characters! They fail to see that a lot of their earlier players have imprinted on the first few waves of Food Souls and they sadly also fail to properly give some of them more story expansion... or skins. At the moment, they're shelling out so many JP-centric Food Souls because... as I see it? They're pandering to the last bastion of whales they have.
⦁ Merchandise. And I mean a variety of merchandise that isn't using the same official art every time. Like they couldn't afford to commission a couple of artists one or two times to make unique merchandise that would sell. They started too late on that train, and they even made it too hard for anyone not in CN or JP to even procure what already exists. Not to mention, they keep using the same 'popular' set of characters for their merchandise and never really expanding out to making merch for other characters.
These are all the things I can list off at the top of my head why Funtoy as a developer sucks ass. They could sweeten their words all they want, it won't change the fact that they've certainly made way too many bad decisions and found out about it too late, and now they're desperate to keep Food Fantasy alive to keep their profits coming in to make whatever that cat girl game they have and that supposedly 'side-game' FF2 they announced.
There may have been problems out of their control that I or you do not see, but one thing is for sure, they were blinded by greed for the money they were raking in on all their servers at the start, and never actually bothered to invest in more manpower in the right places to improve the game, both gameplay-wise and worldbuilding wise. It's actually saddening that this game could have been so much more with several QoLs and a more fleshed out lore, perhaps even spacing out the number of new units they keep introducing while going back to giving their old units more attention.
That's it for Funtoy. We're moving onto Elex in the next part and boy is that also a trip.
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ellsey · 4 years ago
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Agents of Shield Rewatch 7x04 Out of the Past
It’s time for black and white noir AoS y’all
Aka the episode in which we decide we’re going to get Daisy a boyfriend
Which honestly was the best decision anyone has ever made
Look I love this moody feel. The saxophone music, the rain, the voice over. Give it all to me.
“Sometimes the hero has to die, and there’s nothing you can do about it” I mean they basically fed us everything that was going to happen in the end and we had no idea
July 22, 1955 omg we got an absolute date here
But sadly it’s because it’s Sousa’s death date oopsie poopsie
Also if Sousa doesn’t take a picture by his name on the Wall of Valor then I’ll be forever sad
Meanwhile Enver was made for this style he looks fiiiiiiine
I still can’t believe Daisy ended up with a guy who unironically wore sweater vests
I’ll add another cut because I had a lot of feelings
ENOCH!! 
I love you so much
He’s an amazing bartender I’m crying right now
Enoch does not get the respect he deserves hahahaha
Elena and Deke make an interesting pairing, and I wish we could have seen more of them
Speaking of, Jeff Ward also looks amazing in this style
Natalia as well
There’s a man without a face in the bathroom that all seems natural and normal
Aaand Deke gets kidnapped. It must run in the family.
I like the way Sousa ferociously throws his hat and coat down
“Nothing to worry about”
“I was worried” HAHAHAA COULSON NO
LET ENOCH REJOIN THE TEAM
I love how weirded out they are by May’s excitement
Interesting handwave of everything here regarding Peggy and Sousa by just...not addressing it. The implication here is that long distance and work got between them which honestly makes some sense. I did long distance for a while...like 4000 miles long distance and it was rouuggghhhh (mostly because of the time differential) but by that time we had been dating for 3 years so we were pretty committed...anyway I’m just saying that leaving the Steve goes back in time-ness out of this it’s still possible that in this timeline it just didn’t work out. 
Don’t @ me I like Peggy/Sousa too I just found it interesting
Sousa is definitely turning on the charm, but he’s only at like a 5/10 on the Flirty Sousa scale
“You again?” Danny is that any way to talk to your almost girlfriend?
Jemma’s starting to suspect what’s up with May methinks
Sousa’s face when they are less than impressed by his Hydra revelation hahahaha
But that is immediately topped by his face when they let him know Malick is Hydra poor guy
Mack already wants to be best buds with Sousa let’s be real
Poor Sousa looks so dejected learning how much Hydra has infiltrated Shield
And Sousa is just so earnest here talking about giving his life for this cause and you know poor Daisy is having to do everything in her power not to tell him what she knows
It’s such a short scene but so beautifully done
Also she totally starts falling for him here I will die on this hill ok?
It’s hilarious that they say Freddie didn’t recognize Deke because he literally hasn’t changed at all
Freddie Malick lost his newsie accent though womp
Oh well I was wrong about Jemma she just knows something is wrong
Deke probably would have chatted with Enoch he gave up too easily
“I am alone in this world, as I have always been” :( noooooooo
So actually Elena is the one who figured May out. All credit to Elena y’all. She’s never been given enough credit for her brains.
May has concerns about what she felt from Sousa which I’m not really sure what they’re trying to convey here but honestly it’s probably the least surprising thing she’s going to feel from Sousa from here on out
“We’re gonna save him” Lol they’ve had him 5 minutes and are ready to say screw the timeline just to keep him
“Cool, writing some new history” DAISY HAS NO IDEA HOW REAL THIS IS FOR HER
Oh there we go, she felt the need to run from Sousa. Or ride off like a boss on a super cool motorcycle.
Awww this was a pretty good fakeout
It was Coulson in the pool gasp!
“This will make sense later...maybe” 
PHIL NO
Coulson does do an amazing acting job here though
Omg Jemma and Daisy look adorable
Awww May comes in and his world turns to color how symbolic
May’s still not having it though
Nice of them to rescue Sousa’s cane too
“Why didn’t you lead with that?” HAHAHA SOUSA NO
“Congrats...and condolences” omg Coulson
Sousa does not look impressed by 70′s music
You know, Sousa takes it all pretty well, but honestly they did make a big decision for him. I mean I’m sure he didn’t want to die, but not only did he not die, they just took him forward in time too. It’s no wonder he has some negative feelings in the next episode.
And then there’s Freddie and the Chronicoms who are boring
But that would be an awesome band name
First of all, this episode rates a 100000/10 on the Stylish scale because it was so moody and amazing. This episode also gets a 10/10 on the Mack & Sousa Brotp scale because legit Mack was like I like this dude we’re keeping him (and Daisy was trying not to cheer). Also Elena gets a 500/10 on the Big Brain scale because she was definitely big braining here.
Also the Thespian of Shield Award goes to Robo Phil Coulson for absolutely eating that death scene to pieces.
The song for this episode is “Cry Me a River” sung by Julie London because it’s super moody and minimal and definitely fits right in this ep. Also this is another song I used to sing and play on the piano with Granny.
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mittensmorgul · 5 years ago
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So I have a question about 9x14. Bart talks to Cas about leading "an incursion against Raphael and his loyalists." So we can assume he's talking about season 6 stuff. But later, Bart also talks about how Cas was called back to the battlefield because "our leaders wanted those captives killed, and they knew you'd stand in the way of their order." I thought Cas was the main commander in season 6, since he led the rebellion. Why were there other "leaders" that acted against Cas's wishes?
(9x14 Anon here, I know these kind of questions are kind of inconsequential to the overall story but I still like to understand these small things, especially when it comes to Cas. Sorry if that’s not your thing, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to 🙃)
Hi there! I’ll start by saying that this is EXACTLY the sort of detail I LOVE TALKING ABOUT THE MOST. :’D I love picking at things like this and attempting to find the truth, as much as we can in a work of fiction.
I’ll start by saying I have already asked myself this question, even if I didn’t give myself a fully satisfying answer, back the week before 13.03 first aired, in October 2017.
https://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/166754538920/rewatching-914-i-love-this-episode-so-much
The series of thoughts I posed in this rewatch are:
Who ordered Bartholomew to kill those captives, if Castiel had been the one to leave them in his care? Who other than Castiel had the right to give that order? Just like the demon Crowley left in charge of his own captives, who tortured and killed Crowley’s captives without Crowley’s orders to do so.
It is sort of hand-wavey of s6 as a whole, isn’t it? Then again, s6 sort of handwaved itself in 6.20… Or at least dropped the curtain on all the secrecy surrounding the war in heaven that we’d only heard hints and whispers of until that point. But it also leaves out the entire previous year of events between 5.22 and 6.01, which we only saw in a few occasional flashbacks.
6.20 does kind of give us a vague timeline for events post 5.22, but not really. We don’t know how much time passed between Dean showing up at Lisa’s and Cas watching him rake leaves, for example. Cas only describes the time span as “those first weeks back in Heaven,” so it could be two weeks, or it could be twelve weeks, or more, before Raphael pulled him over and gave him his ultimatum.
We know Cas was building alliances with other angels at that time. They sort of hastily tried to show us the extent of that with Rachel, that Cas had other trusted angels working with him, but we also have been shown since s4 that… angels are difficult to keep in line. Uriel, Balthazar, and of course Cas himself. And a lot of others. We’re left to wonder just how “in charge” of the “rebel faction” Cas actually was in s6, especially when TWO of his closest generals? Commanders? Whatever, the terminology isn’t important here, but their PERCEIVED position of power is. But Cas was BETRAYED TWICE in s6 by angels he was supposedly “in charge” of– Rachel and Balthazar.
But what was the perception of all the other angels that were being told they needed to choose a side in this war? The angels who didn’t WANT to choose a side? Maybe they were fine with the status quo. Maybe they just didn’t want to fight. Maybe they wanted nothing to do with an apocalypse, but Raphael was demanding it, and Cas and his cohorts were trying to stop it. But when Raphael began laying down ultimatums, like the one he issued Cas to basically fall in line or die, I think Cas and a LOT of his cohorts were likely able to win the loyalty of angels who’d otherwise have had nothing to do with Cas, you know?
How many of Cas’s legions were converted to his side, to his cause, by angels loyal to Rachel, or to Balthazar, or to any of the other angels Cas had gathered to his cause? How many of them thought Rachel’s ideas were more compelling that Cas’s? How many of them actually knew about Cas’s ACTUAL plans to take down Raphael, and how many thought this was really a fight between the “foot soldiers” in each faction?
We know, for example, that Rachel was supposed to be one of his closest Lieutenants (THAT’S the word I was looking for earlier… >.>). Rachel… had no real idea what Cas was up to until she began to uncover his larger schemes in 6.18 (i.e. the episode we both meet her for the first time, and Cas kills her for challenging his plan once she begins to understand the reality of it).
But Carver era spent a LOT of time showing us just how little we actually understood s6. I mean, three episodes before 9.14, we hear it from Cas’s own mouth:
SAM [slaps his hand away]: You’re a terrible liar.CASTIEL: That is not true. I once deceived and betrayed both you and your brother.
He’s talking about s6. That season where he spent very little time in Heaven, despite constantly telling the Winchesters that it was Heaven and his troubles there that had been keeping him away from them all season. It sounds very much like his strategy in Purgatory, you know? At least on the surface, how he ran away from Dean to draw off the Leviathan… because that’s what he was doing in the Raking Leaves scene in 6.20, too… everything to keep Dean safe, to keep him out of it.
(meanwhile he’d unleashed soulless!Sam on the world, and didn’t seem to have any qualms getting Sam tangentially involved in his side quest with Crowley… which was his ACTUAL mission during s6.)
Back to the point, which was that Cas was deceiving BOTH his angel comrades in Heaven AND the Winchesters throughout s6. He wasn’t spending most of his time in the nitty-gritty fights in Heaven. In fact, we know very little about what those fights entailed, and really DIDN’T know there were “prisoners” involved on either side of that battle until s9. Well, we knew Cas-as-Godstiel intended to destroy Raphael’s followers, who refused to side with him during the war, but that’s ALL we knew until Bart told us about “prisoners” that had been taken, and apparently executed.
Because what Bartholomew’s little comments to Cas tell me is that Bart… really didn’t know what Cas’s real mission, his real plan, had been all along. The little scrums in heaven were a distraction for him, that he left to play out while he raced to find the power to kill Raphael and end the war himself.
But he apparently did occasionally peek in and lead a “mission,” or a “fight” or a “skirmish” in heaven, but then was sent away– or possibly not SENT away, but went back to his main quest for the Purgatory souls. Perception is everything here, and if Cas just.. left the fight, might Bart PERCEIVE him as having been sent away, right before “alternate orders” to kill the prisoners came from someone else?
Either that, or Cas did take himself out of the direct leadership of the rebel army in Heaven, and DID take orders from someone else while on that battlefield? We honestly do not know, and I don’t know if it’s even relevant now, because it’s all a game of perception.
Now that we know the full extent of Chuck’s involvement in arranging troubles all over creation, could Bart’s description and “recollection” of those events have even been “edited” after the fact? Heck, we don’t even need Chuck to explain this one… how about Naomi? The narrative has honestly never fully addressed it, and I don’t think it will be. Which is part of what makes it so interesting to think about, to me anyway.
Because what really was Cas’s role in the war in Heaven? Was he merely a figurehead who dared to challenge Raphael and then left most of the day-to-day running of the war to his lieutenants? Because that’s how his conversations with Rachel made it seem. And how s6 seems to make the most sense to me overall. Almost as if the war in heaven and those battles that had consumed Bartholomew’s entire perspective of that time… were barely even on Cas’s radar at all. He had so many other more important things to think about.
This is one reason why I found the whole “Cas as Commander” toward the end of s9 so fascinating. Because that was a role he was FORCED into by Metatron, and not something he was comfortable with. He took the responsibility seriously though, but I had seen it at least partly as more of his eternal penance for s6, and a chance to get a do-over on a lot of the things he always felt he screwed up during that time. And Heaven is near the top of that list– not because he directed the wars there, but because he’d neglected them.
The image of Cas as some great Leader Of Heaven’s Armies is just… not and never has been the reality of his character, despite being an incredibly popular fanon interpretation of his character. Even back in early s4, when he seemed to have Authority, he seemed so confident in the Plans of Heaven, seemed so in charge, the reality of that began to crack through by 4.07, and had completely shaken apart by the end of the season. I’ve applied that thematic to essentially everything having to do with Heaven and the organizational system up there ever since.
We like to think of Heaven as a military organization, and angels as soldiers with well-defined ranks and positions within a hierarchy. I think the reality is far more like Heaven is a bureaucracy, and half the people in the organization are scheming to overthrow the other half at any given time, there’s no clear leadership level by level and no clearly delineated pecking order or chain of command. More like a conglomerate of different divisions who each think their group is the one in charge, while getting very little input or guidance from the supposed leadership of the whole organization. A bunch of petty middle-managers scrambling for as much power and control as they could amass.
Heaven was made up of Zachariahs and Metatrons and Naomis, after all. 
eta: after I read the whole thing again :’D
Bart was just another low-level bureaucrat attempting to seize power for himself where he saw an opportunity. And like the vast majority of other angels, he died for it. And there’s now so few of them left and they’re STILL behaving this same exact way-- with Dumah having schemed her way into getting Naomi locked up in s14. I mean, nothing ever changes, right? Even when there’s only a handful of angels left, they can’t let go and work together. They’ll be the death of themselves.
(Except the few that seem to have realized there’s a better way-- like Cas, like Naomi who was at least trying to learn a better way, like Anael who would rather live a sham life on Earth helping people than return to Heaven even after seeing more sides of the bureaucracy than most other angels, and like Metatron who only learned better after he lost his grace and still ended up dying for trying to do the right thing... Chuck really is a jerk, you know?)
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baronfulmen · 6 years ago
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For the 3 people that care about my thoughts on Endgame
Okay so I’m putting this under one of those “keep reading” links which should save you from seeing anything because OBVIOUSLY this is all spoilery.
Tony dying was the most obvious and predictable thing in the whole universe, I don’t know why you guys are so surprised.
The time travel was an absolute fucking mess.  Wow.  It’s like they set out to do it as badly as possible.  It’s possible to come up with an explanation that kinda works for most of it, but the work is all on the viewer because as presented it’s total nonsense.
Big funeral for Tony, no funeral for Black Widow.
Actually we don’t even need a funeral for her, you have time travel now. Go save Black Widow.  The time travel is enough of a mess that you clearly don’t need to worry about that causing any paradoxes or whatever anyway.
Spider-Man’s fancy suit was fine at the end, but in his upcoming movie he’s using a way lower tech one that also isn’t one we’ve ever seen him with.  Why would he switch to a non-Stark suit?  Will the explain it, or just handwave it because the real reason is to sell more toys?
The scene where all the un-snapped folks showed up was perfect because somehow in all the excitement my dumbass brain forgot they were back. I’m sure that’s exactly what the filmmakers wanted, not sure what percentage of the audience it worked on but I’m glad it worked on me.
Fuck you Tumblr, for spoiling the fact that Steve got Mjolnir.  Still cool though.
Fuck you, random clickbait headlines for kinda vaguely spoiling things about Loki and the tesseract (new band name, dibs) and Asgardians of the Galaxy.
As others have pointed out, Steve had to return the soul stone to Red Skull and I would pay extra to see that scene.
Is it just me or did Thanos put up more of a fight without the gauntlet than he did with it?
Captain Marvel is overpowered as compared to the rest of the cast AND she has no history with the rest of the Avengers, which means whenever she’s on screen she’s the hero rather than it being a team.  I wish they had found a better way to handle this than just having her be “somewhere else, busy with space stuff” for most of the movie but I don’t know exactly what I would have done.
Loved the Hulk.  Every second of him.  Perfection.
The biggest missed opportunity caused by the infinity stones being destroyed was the chance for Vision to communicate with them from within the Mind stone, just like Ultron did.
I was still hoping that Dr. Strange would show up to give them the Time stone, then at the end go back to give it to Thanos and get snapped.
They only fixed the snapped people.  Not the tens (hundreds?) of millions of people that died from secondary effects. Suicides like you wouldn’t believe. Enormous numbers of plane and car crashes. No emergency response because there’s too much happening at once and also half of them have vanished. Total breakdown of infrastructure, Safety measures failing all over. Children left in dangerous places by themselves. Food and resource distribution totally disrupted, leading to starvation and chaos. Collapse of the government leading to people carving out their own petty kingdoms. Thanos also eliminated half the food sources on the planet because his plan was totally stupid, so that killed people too.  Entire ecosystems collapsing.  THEN people come back, and it’s the same sorts of problems. Babies appearing on the freeway. Sick people appearing in hospitals that aren’t open anymore. Suddenly the population has (at least) doubled and food distribution is still planning for the reduced headcount.  This whole world is totally irrevocably screwed.
Despite the time travel being awful, props to Marvel for making one of the only time travel movies where they actually think about the people in the current timeline. Usually they’re just “yeah I dunno I guess all the current people cease to exist, it’s fine, just don’t think about it”.
Totally bad lazy writing at the beginning where they’re like “We have no idea where he is” and then a second later after a comment from Nebula that didn’t come close to helping at all or giving them any new information they say “Oh and BTW we already detected the Infinity Gauntlet being used at THIS location the other day somehow” which, okay first of all that means you DO know where he is but also how exactly did you detect that?
The Girl Power scene was a little silly.  These are all awesome characters that I would love to see working together and getting more screen time, but having them all take a moment from the battle to strike a pose and one by one stand up only to... honestly not do anything at the moment because Captain Marvel just flew off way faster than they could hope to keep up?  That was dumb.  If you want to show off your bare minimum representation do it by actually giving them cool stuff to do (which, yes, also happened to some extent but I’m just saying more of that rather than the blatant “LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEE”).
As a fat guy who doesn’t like how fat people are portrayed in media, I still wasn’t really bothered by Fat Thor.  Maybe I should have been, I don’t know, but I wasn’t.  And you know, he stayed fat when he was kicking ass at the end so there’s that.
I called that Captain America would somehow be given a chance to retire, I wasn’t sure what that would look like.  In theory I don’t mind him using time travel to live through all the years he missed, it’s a nice way to give him an ending, but of course it just makes all the time travel stuff worse and it felt a little sudden even with the thousand times they mentioned / showed Peggy.
I liked it.  Did I mention I liked it?  Because I did.
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taaroko · 6 years ago
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Don’t read if you don’t want spoilers!
No seriously, I hate spoilers and I don’t want to ruin the movie for anyone.
Don’t click to read more unless you’ve seen it or you absolutely don’t care, because I’m here to talk plot implications.
Okay. I want to talk about the timelines Endgame introduced, because if you think all the times they visited are going to continue on the same way as otherwise, you are wrong. The Ancient One explained how it works. There will be new branches kicked off by what they do in their quantum time traveling, which is fine as long as the Infinity Stones go back to where they were so that nothing worse happens.
1970 Branch: I don’t think much would’ve changed in this, but Hank Pym is probably even more paranoid about protecting his technology, and maaaaybe Howard goes on to be ever so slightly a better dad because of that nice chat he had with Howard Potts. 
2012 Branch: Holy crap this one is a mess. I seriously doubt that Main Timeline Steve would ever be able to track down Loki, and who knows where he went with the Tesseract. I headcanon hard that getting slammed repeatedly into the floor by the Hulk snapped him out of some or all of the brainwashing/Mind Stone reprogramming/whatever that he had, so I don’t think he’d have poofed directly to Thanos to hand it over, but now he has a chance to escape punishment on Asgard. Good luck finding him, I guess. Maybe the Ancient One will help. Meanwhile, on Earth, Steve now knows that Bucky is alive, while several major Hydra operatives think Steve is on their side. There is so much potential for things to go wrong.
2013 Branch: Unless Loki saw Main Timeline Thor and Rocket running past his cell or Frigga’s actions were impacted by interacting with Thor, I doubt this one would change. Although there’s also Jane. Unless she lost consciousness when Rocket took the Aether from her and didn’t get a clear look at him, and then Main Timeline Steve (presumably with Heimdall’s help or something?) put the Aether back in place before she woke up, she’s gonna have some major questions, and she is not the type to leave those unanswered. (Also, did they decide not to try getting the Tesseract from this point because it’d be too hard to slip it past Odin, or what? Because if not, that’s a pretty big oversight, and I don’t enjoy using Thor’s drunken depression as a means of handwaving it.)
2014 Branch: This one is pretty nice, because Thanos, all his lieutenants, and both his Outrider and Sakaaran armies are gone several years early. The only downside is for the Guardians, because their Gamora permanently absconded to the Main Timeline, and their Nebula is dead. Now the biggest problems they have to deal with are a Ronan with no army and, eventually, Ego. Is Ronan with no army supplied by Thanos a big enough catalyst to even forge the Guardians into a team/family? I’m really not sure. The army doesn’t come into play until the assault on Xandar itself, so it’s possible. If not, though, then Ego won’t find out about Peter (at least not as soon), which is a really good thing, because a Peter without the Guardians might not be able to fight back against Ego’s sales pitch. Meanwhile, on Earth, without Thanos, the Avengers will need another reason besides the sudden existential threat he provides to get back together after Civil War, but Natasha’s safe and Tony will likely survive to see many more of Morgan’s birthdays and give Pepper anxiety over his inability to permanently quit Iron Manning. In this timeline, the Asgardian ship makes it safely to Earth, with Loki, Heimdall, and all of the refugees alive. Also, Nidavellir is fully populated with dwarves and Eitri’s hands aren’t covered in metal.
Steve’s New Branch: Yeah, I said what I said. You expect me to believe that Steve Rogers went back to the ‘40s, swept Peggy—future founder and director of SHIELD—off her feet, and didn’t act on his knowledge of Zola’s Hydra infiltration plans, Bucky’s survival, and the upcoming threat of Thanos? There is absolutely no way he could keep that low of a profile and live with himself. Also, he’s just about the most famous guy of his era. There’s no way nobody is recognizing him in all those years. Therefore, Steve’s life with Peggy spun off into a separate timeline. I imagine Steve would have garnered a good relationship with Hank and Janet, so that when he needed to, after he had outlived Peggy (and probably his timeline’s Bucky) he could use their technology for a brief return to the Main Timeline to hand off the shield to Sam and say goodbye. Also, I firmly believe that Steve told Bucky his plan before he went back to restore the Stones, and for whatever reason, Bucky declined. The only problem is the frozen Steve in Main Timeline Steve’s new branch. When does Main Timeline Steve wake him up? How does he feel about essentially stealing that Steve’s life, and how does the world react to two Steves once that one isn’t frozen anymore? Is Peggy okay with this? Can they find him a home in some other timeline where Steve died early or something?
Main Timeline: Even though the *past* of the main timeline is the same (including Peggy/Sousa), if I understood what was happening right, things should be pretty screwed up right now. Yay for there being a Gamora in the main timeline once again, but the Guardians+Thor are going to have an interesting time making up for her lost character development. Far more pressing, though, is that the Avengers just dumped everyone who was snapped out of existence into the present time, after five years have gone by without them. Do the writers realize how insane that would be for everyone? Sure, it’s great that these people are alive again, but it’s not like the survivors (and I covered in this post how few of those there would realistically be after the immediate and longer term fallout of the Snap) didn’t continue with their lives. Widows and widowers would have remarried. Orphaned kids would have been adopted. Cars and homes would’ve been sold. Governments are likely still in shambles. The worst irony is that there probably *will* be staggering food shortages now. For my own peace of mind, I have to headcanon that it wasn’t possible to simply cancel out Thanos’s original snap and have everyone retroactively never vanish, because no matter how cute Morgan Stark is, she is not worth this massive universal backlash. So let’s just say bringing the dusted people back to the current time is just the best they could do, and that’s that. And maybe I can assume that the Avengers are smart enough to realize the food shortage problem and use the Stones to double the resources until everything’s as close to normal again as it can be. Still, is Far From Home going to deal with this? All of the kids appear to be the same age, so did they all get snapped? Statistically, there should’ve been a few places getting hit harder than others, so it’s possible. But it bugs me. If they were really set on doing this, we could’ve had Peter awkwardly dealing with the fact that Ned is now 22, along with a good number of his classmates that, from his perspective, he was just on a field trip with a couple days ago. 
I guess the still-running TV shows that are caught up to the present day (meaning Runaways, Cloak & Dagger, and Agents of SHIELD, but probably not Jessica Jones) are going to have to be from the 2014 Branch, though, because how exactly would they be able to deal with this?
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redjayson · 8 years ago
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season 2 young justice au!!
there’s not a clear timeline on when jason became robin and died in canon, so i can just handwave it and say jason’s alive and doing his lost days thing by the time s2 has rolled around
that’s where things get interesting. the reach are looking for people with metahuman genes, and the lazarus pit isn’t exactly metahuman genes, but it’s something different. it’s not atlantean and not natural and it clings like a residue to jason. 
(the reach might not even recognize it as the same thing that clings to ra’s al ghul because have they ever actually met him in person or did they always just talk with the light over their oversized television screens? probably the latter.)
the reach like to kidnap kids with metahuman genes, but above all they like to kidnap kids that no one will miss. jason is wandering through europe all by himself, training; he checks in with talia every week or so, but she mostly leaves him to do his own thing. 
he’s an easy target.
talia doesn’t even worry for over a week after the fact. it’s not like they keep in contact that closely. and by the time she realizes something’s wrong – 
she doesn’t really have any idea where to start.
when the young justice team finally infiltrate the reach’s base, jason’s been there for weeks. 
impulse speeds around looking for blue beetle, but he takes the time to jab at control panels as he breezes past, setting everyone the reach has captured free. jason stumbles out of his prison, dizzy and shaking, before starting to gather the other prisoners in the room into some semblance of order. he hasn’t been robin for a while, but there’s a tone of command and authority that you gain from being a superhero that you can never really let go of.
jason pulls the hood of his jacket over his head and they all start making their way through the reach ship. shaky as he is, jason still manages to down a reach guard he gets the drop on, and he manages to steal a gun. a weird alien gun, but any gun is basically a gun.
after that they hook up with the rest of the superheroes that have infiltrated the reach ship and freed the prisoners. jason keeps his head turned to the side, allowing the faint shadows of the hood to hide his face as soon as he noticess nightwing and batgirl and any of the other superheroes who might recognize him.
(he doesn’t have any other option for escaping the reach ship other than boarding miss martian’s bio ship. he’ll have to hope he can hide among the others and slip away after they land.)
of course, jason’s luck is absolute shit. he’s almost resigned to it at this point.
jason’s helping the other superheroes herd the prisoners on board m’gann’s ship, sniping from a corner at anyone trying to stop them, when black beetle interferes. they all make it out, though not without being tossed around a good bit, and jason somehow ends up being one of the few that have remained conscious, so it’s his role to start dragging unconscious superheroes onto the ship.
once blue beetle shows up, that gets a lot easier, but jason’s pretty banged up in the whole process, reaction time slower against a reach beetle and after being held for weeks (being tortured and experimented on for weeks).
jason slumps against one of the walls of the ship once they’re finally all inside. he doesn’t care how damp it is from the rush of seawater that m’gann has since cleared out. he’s tired.
“hey,” says a blonde, a year or two younger than him, sitting down next to him. jason vaguely recognizes her as one of his fellow prisoners. he practically threw her onto the ship trying to shove her out of the way of one of black beetle’s attacks. “you probably saved my life. thanks.”
jason laughs. “no problem,” he says. and, slightly grudgingly, “it wasn’t all me.” the team is due its thanks as well. none of them would be getting out of this if it weren’t for them.
(jason wouldn’t be getting out if it weren’t for them. he’d be trapped here until he died, just the same way he was with the joker.)
the girl starts. “you sound like home,” she says. 
jason considers her. she sounds like gotham. more than that, she sounds like him.
“crime alley kids gotta stick together,” he says.
the girl laughs. “steph,” she says, holding out her hand.
“…jason,” jason says, and he takes it. 
fast as m’gann’s ship is, it still takes time to get places, even if it’s probably faster than any commercial airplane. when you’ve apparently been held out in the middle of the ocean somewhere, it takes hours to get back to land and wherever you’ve been kidnapped from. jason was in europe, and these kids were taken from all over the world, but the justice league – and the team – are located in the united states. that’s where they’re heading.
the flight takes long enough that the team members are trying to talk to everyone who was taken, getting names and places they can go, reassuring them that everything is going to be all right. 
jason tucks himself even more firmly into his corner, trying to hide in the shadows, but he knows there’s nothing he can do. everything he had planned and talked to talia about and started training for – it ended the moment he was taken by the reach.
he’d thought he was going to die there, held by the reach. the team rescued them all instead, but everything was still ruined. he could still bounce back, somehow, he could still kill the joker, but it would be so much harder.
well, so far jason hadn’t let even death stop him. he’s at least going to try.
it’s nightwing who comes to talk to jason and steph, two crime alley kids sitting in their corner away from the others. of course it’s nightwing. 
jason has his hood pulled low over his head, his hands clenched in his sleeves so they won’t betray him through shaking, his head ducked just enough to allow him to peer through his bangs at nightwing’s approach. the first robin crouches in front of them.
“hey,” nightwing says, in his ‘frightened civilians’ voice. it’s gentle and calm and jason hates it, hates the way he remembers working alongside nightwing and practicing his own voice for when he had to talk to victims. 
“you’re nightwing,” steph says, her voice faintly awed. 
“yep,” nightwing says cheerily, and no one who didn’t know him would be able to pick out how strained his voice is under that faked emotion. sounds like the golden boy had been having a rough time of it recently. “and you are?”
“stephanie,” steph says. “brown. i’m from gotham.”
“awesome,” nightwing says, and a little real warmth seeps into his voice. for all jason’s heard that nightwing has been operating more in blüdhaven now than in gotham (when he isn’t working with the team), gotham is still where all the robins got their start. “and your friend?”
“i don’t know,” jason says, dagger-sharp. he looks up and meets nightwing’s eyes behind the domino mask. “why don’t you tell me, nightwing?”
nightwing goes a very gratifying shade of white.
“jason,” he says. he reaches out, like he wants to touch jason–
jason slaps his hand away, up and on his feet before he’s even thinking about it, taking a few swift steps back but keeping his back to the bio ship’s walls. nightwing stands slowly, hands held at his shoulders. it’s not reassuring; jason knows how fast nightwing can slip from one stance to another, knows the kind of insane tricks no one but an acrobat could manage to slip into their fighting skills. 
all the civilians and superheroes alike in the main hold of the bio ship have turned to watch them, some more stealthily than others. jason can see the two other bats – babs and jason’s replacement – focus intently nightwing and the situation he’s in.
jason’s skin crawls. 
“jason,” nightwing says again. he doesn’t take his eyes off jason’s face. his voice is probably supposed to be soothing, but all it does is make jason start to shake.
“piss off,” jason says. his voice breaks halfway through.
he thought he could do this, but he can’t. he thought he could pretend for long enough to get to land and slip away from them all, but he can’t. they’re in the air, in this tiny ship, and there’s no escape. he can’t get away.
nightwing edges one careful step forward, and jason breaks. he lashes out at nightwing, and then the speedster – not west, it’s not kid flash, it’s someone else – is slamming him against the ship wall and jason thinks he might be screaming and then there’s a quick pain in his arm and everything fades away.
(an interlude:
“what did you do?” nightwing yells at impulse. blood is trailing down from his broken nose, but he still staggers forward to catch the slumped form of his brother. 
“i helped,” bart says.
“did you,” nightwing says viciously, cradling jason’s head in his lap. 
bart thinks about jason’s regrets, the old stories he’d told in the dead of night, the memories of what his family had been and how long it had taken them to reconcile in the aftermath of how hard and dangerous jason had made himself in order to fight against them. he had told bart the kinds of things he had done. 
you’re going to save us all, jason said, shortly before bart left. he smiled a little. unless you screw it up. try not to. and– jason hesitated. try to stay away from me, kid. i won’t know you. i might hurt you. there was a time i didn’t care who i hurt, as long as i got what i wanted.
did you ever? bart asked.
no.
 bart doesn’t know what ripples he spread that made jason end up in the hands of the reach, and he really doesn’t like that it happened and what other unforeseen things might have been set into motion that he had never considered having to deal with, but a little part of him is glad this happened. he has to be more concerned with stopping the reach apocalypse than anything else, but for the man who had been a presence in his life and told him all sorts of things he might need to know about the superheroes as they had been –
yeah. he’s glad it turned out this way. even if this jason hates him for it.
“yes,” bart says. he swallows any doubt. “it’s a sedative. he should wake up fine in a few hours.”
after they’ve landed.
jason told him about his slightly higher resistance to drugs after his resurrection, in case impulse ever ended up against red hood despite jason’s warnings to stay away from his past self. bart just prays he calculated it accurately.
nightwing gathers jason into his arms and stalks past bart, into the front with m’gann. bart retreats to his position by jaime and tries not to think about the future.)
jason wakes up in a white room, one hand cuffed to the bed he’s laying in. 
he’s…kind of offended. 
it’s a matter of moments to slip the cuff, but the door is locked from the outside. jason sweeps the room, then sits back down on the bed, staring disdainfully at the camera perched in a corner of the ceiling. he doesn’t touch the water or the covered tray sitting on the table next to the bed. 
he isn’t sure how long it’s been before he hears a knock on the door. black canary steps in, closing the door behind her.
“dick couldn’t be bothered to come himself?” jason spits. or bruce, he thinks, and shoves away the hurt.
black canary sits in the only chair in the room, pulling it towards the bed. not enough to crowd jason, just enough to mimic the therapy sessions they’ve all ended up having with her at one time or another. 
jason really isn’t looking forward to this.
“i thought i might be the better person for you to talk to,” black canary says neutrally. “given your reaction to nightwing earlier.”
jason scowls.
“jason…” black canary says. “i hope you understand this is a delicate situation. if this is anything like red arrow and arsenal–”
jason laughs. he doesn’t know who arsenal is, but he has to hazard a guess that it’s the real roy harper. looks like they managed to find him after all.  
“can you tell us what happened?” black canary asks. “how did you end up in the reach’s hands?”
when we all thought you were dead, remains unspoken, but it hangs heavy in the air. 
jason thinks about the whole mess of it, the bomb and waking up in his grave and drowning in the endless green of the lazarus pit. he thinks about the weeks he’s been out of contact with talia, wonders if she even bothered to search for him. he thinks about the replacement, standing next to batgirl like it was his right. 
“figure it out yourselves,” jason says. 
everything’s there, if they bothered to look. talia found him in gotham, and jason knows she wasn’t lying to him. he isn’t a clone, because there was simply no time for them to have taken him, no reason to implant memories of his death and the grave in his mind, no need for talia to push a clone into the lazarus pit when she could simply have grown one that wasn’t hurt like he was. 
jason lays down with his back to black canary and waits until she leaves before he buries his head under the pillow to hide any tears that might seep out.
i’m going to end this here because it turned into a fic more than an outline, oops, but:
batman is off In Space per canon and has no idea that jason is alive and that they’ve found him. between the team pretending the justice league is still on planet and jason’s kidnapping, jason doesn’t realize this
he definitely thinks bruce abandoned him. ouch.
remember how i mentioned jason was grabbed by the reach because of the lazarus pit? remember how he was one of the very few left conscious by black beetle tossing superheroes around like ragdolls? yeah there’s a reason for that
what does the lazarus pit do?
it heals people
even without a metahuman gene of his own, the reach still messed around with him enough that the little amount of lazarus in his system sparked and gave him some healing abilities
not what future!jason told bart about, because that jason hadn’t ever been kidnapped by the reach
i’m undecided whether it’s pretty minor healing or wolverine-style or even full on captain jack harkness, where jason keeps waking up after every time he dies (wouldn’t that suck?)
with jason in the mix, the runaways probably manage to escape earlier. assuming that they keep jason with them, because jason is a) a bat, someone who has a vigilante family who desperately wants him back and would fight to take him, b) has a healing ability, and it seems like that would be a very iffy thing to test ethically, and c) a bat – it’d be hell trying to contain him (a facility that’s good enough for the runaways, and barely at that, would in no way be sufficient to hold a bat that didn’t want to be there), and also probably d) under suspicion for Everything
jason has really bad claustrophobia now. between the grave and weeks spent being tortured in something the same size as his coffin – 
yeah.
season 2 au~
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