#cotl paradox

[anomaly-art]

Cover for my own COTL fic!

You know? I've been struggling to create anything but as soon as I started playing COTL I got inspired and started to do lots of things! I started drawing and writing again! I'm even making animations and merchandising as well! I'm working on a cosplay too but that will take some time...

This fic is about Narinder and the bishops' childhood and their encounter with the crowns. I'd share it here but I wrote it in Spanish... :'D

[blue-phoria]

And the Lamb also wants to see the goats selfcest as well.

They both think of a selfcest orgy of the other one whilst making out.

[i-eat-deodorant]

Tell me about your onions.

here's an onion. i'm so funny.

ahem.

ok real talk though i've been doing a couple brief dives into the reincarnation aspect of buddhism/hinduism, which haven't been super applicable to COTL so far. which is a shame, bc it has such an interesting take on rebirth and resurrection within the nature of religion.

in COTL, death is seen as semi-permanent and a boon. lamb uses it to their advantage via the nature of game protagonists being able to restart from a save point when they died. the ritual of resurrection is groundbreaking for followers, and i headcanon that the ritual of rebirth is the main reason why TOWW got imprisoned. it is very much a loaded gun in the COTL world.

but buddhism treats rebirth as not only a nature of living, but something that needs to be escaped from. literally something that one must fight to be unshackled from, to break past samsara and reach ascension via nirvana. it's such an interesting viewpoint to consider and explore, especially bc my interpretation of lamb has them never being willing to become this resurrecting figure in the first place. as much as the red crown has been a boon for them, it's also acted as a bind. they will always have both their mortal and godly vices.

in both hinduism and buddhism there are multiple schools of thought that tackle the continuuity of resurrection, aka "what is carried over when one is reborn?"

now suppose narinder did not carry everything he had as TOWW to his mortal form. what is lost, and what is gained?

if i were to adapt samsara into my cotl fics i'd focus less on actual death and more on metaphorical ones. which, ok bear with me here, is a huge part of my personal philosophy.

humans are not static; we grow and develop, and in doing so we shed prior versions of ourselves like metamorphosis. a sort of ego death lite, if you will. when faced with a traumatic event, the person you once were is not the same as the person you are now. that is the kind of metaphorical death i'm talking about; the death of a former self.

but what exactly marks the new self and the old self? nothing, theoretically. we can make the boundary as low or as high as we want.

consider the ship of theseus: if a huge portion of my body is replaced every 7 years, can i definitely say i am who i was 7 years ago? what part of identity and self stays constant, when my personality's changed drastically? am i a stranger with the memories of someone else?

now narrow the boundary. if the self is physically static, then every time a cell dies, the self dies.

using that technical definition, technically i die and am reborn every single second. a metaphorical death and a metaphorical rebirth, and what gets carried over?

something something life and death are two sides of the coin of change.

that's why i kinda keep emphasizing lamb's impostor syndrome crisis about themselves dying in both soul and body during the execution. that's why i divide narinder's life into such stark epochs (mortal, bishop, imprisoned, mortal again). that's why i love treating their afterlife not as a continuity of their character development, but a second chance. ship of theseus, broken down and rebuilt anew.

it's not nirvana. but it's making the best out of your own personal samsara.

and just. there's something so poetic about narinder and lamb reincarnating as gods of death, because the only way to die repeatedly is to live again after each one. a taste of permanence in the impermanent, without ever reaching that finality that they embody as gods. they represent the very thing they are and aren't. it's a paradox that makes perfect sense the moment you remove the black-and-white boundary of life/death that dictates they must be opposites.

and this is what i love exploring. breaking down the barriers of identity and death in the metaphysical sense, in two characters who are defined by so much loss in their lives. (metaphorical) death, treated as redemption, treated as healing.

lamb, offering a hand up to a newly reborn narinder. i died, i got up, and i live.

[linkedin-corp]

i will come up with the sky cotl paradox eventually i havent forgotten

if you do genuinely i will be impressed bcus i couldnt think of one if i tried. and ive been playing since 2021

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[pessimisticshapewithablog]

True, if godhood begins similar to the lamb's method, it makes sense that the bishops would be predisposed to more negative character traits. Actions that would be unpalatable in a domestic setting could be the difference between life and death in nature. The gods are beasts after all. We don't know how long the little gods were on their own before shamura found them. They became what they needed to survive in the meantime, although there is their base personalities to consider.

With Shamura and Heket's, reaction to whether the lambs bows to them or not, it could imply the crowns can influences the bearers temperament or has a preference for certain personalities. Meaning the Bishop's were "chosen" by their crowns because they already had desirable negative personality traits that increased their chance of surviving into "adult" godhood or were easily influenced by the crowns to express said traits.

The bishops are, for all intents and purposes, the four (five, technically) horsemen of the apocalypse in COTL's World. Gentleness would be paradoxical to their natures as harbingers of death and desolation. And yet they all seemed to take on secondary natures as benefical gods.

Shamura, knowledge

Kallamar, health

Heket, bounty

Leshy, order(?)

Granted we don't know if the bishops ever provided such boons. Pain can make mortals do anything to alleviate it, even worship the beings that cause it. But that still begs the question of why TOWW's beneficial nature was suppressed...

@imadethisaccountforaheadcannon

Narinders is a god of the hearth as well as death

I should make a youtube video about this but so far on my playthrough he is the only god with the power to give someone the most comfortable homelife. He just didn't consider it cause housewarming is never considered very powerfull cause of how feminine it is depicted as.

I suspect that's why he constantly felt like he was not living up to his true potential all the time. He couldn't even comphend his actual problems due to his legit toxic masculinity and lack of chill pill

And I don't mean the chill pill thing literally

[faery-the-diamond]

Ok, so, I was rewatching Wakfu the other day.

(Btw, if you didn't see it, I'd recommend you to check it out. It's a good show)

I was already at the OVAs when this guy appeared.....

I remember him being in the show from the time I watched long before Cult of the lamb was released, but now...

I stopped the episode and just looked at him...

I—

I can't be the only one who sees this—

Sir, are you—

Are you Narinder's long lost twin brother by any chance????

[tenaciousdecapitator]

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In which one intrepid and vastly under-qualified Homestuck fan dares to ask: “What if the Homestuck characters just had happy, satisfying lives post-Act7?” (Details Under Cut)

June Egbert: After seeking some much-needed therapy to deal with her lingering grief and hero complex, June fully transitions with the support of Roxy, Rose and Kanaya. Soon after, she starts a promising career as a standup comedian.

Dave Strider: Once he hangs up the sword for good, Dave has considerably more time to spend on his other passions. Besides freelancing as a DJ and running a popular photography blog, Dave soon builds the self-confidence to confess his feelings to Karkat. 

Rose Lalonde: Now happily married to the alien vampire girl of her dreams, Rose settles down to assist her wife with the care and upkeep of the Mother Grub, while spending her free time knitting and publishing her Complacency of the Learned manuscripts. 

Jade Harley: Overjoyed by the freedom and vast potential of her new life, she spends the next few years exploring Earth C, waking up in a new bed each morning, often with a satisfied lover beside her. Hey, after years being stranded on an island and being forced into an unfortunate destiny, she’s entitled to a little personal expression. 

Dirk Strider: Well, for starters, he gets some actual goddamn therapy. Not from Rose, because presumably there’s more than one trained therapist in this vast population of humans and trolls. Maybe he finds a career in robotics, maybe he looks into marine biology. Anything that keeps him from going off the deep end is fine by me. 

Roxy Lalonde: Thanks to their experience with Carapacians, she helps govern the Dream Moons alongside Calliope. She occasionally drops in to check on her friends’ lives, and to read the latest CotL book. The rest is up to their preference. 

Jake English: Confronted with an entire planet’s population, Jake comes to two startling conclusions: One, that there are in fact more than one option for romantic interests now, and Two, that he dosen’t feel particularly compelled to pursue any of them. With some soul-searching, he discovers his Aromanticity. Seeing his friends solve their own personal issues inspires him to strike out on his own, either as an actor or as a archaeologist. 

Jane Crocker: After hearing accounts from Roxy, Dirk, Karkat and Kanaya about the previous Crockercorp CEO’s reign of terror, Jane decides that a career in politics isn’t the best course of action. Besides, since Carapacians are biologically immortal unless killed in battle, The Mayor and his trusty bodyguard Parcel Mistress are still in office, with the assistance of a senate of humans and trolls to keep things up-to-date. Instead, she looks back on her youth with renewed interest, and soon develops a reputation as a keen Private Investigator and independent reporter.

Lastly, Terezi finds Vriska being carried through the void of Paradox Space in the arms of Davepetasprite, still weary from their last fight with Lord English, and the merry trio return to Earth C in about a decade, welcomed with open arms.

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[ishades]

R strider read letters to mileena and refusing to absorb and internalize any of it. Reading silence of the lambs and trying to unnerve her brother by cutting off the face of a smuppet to wear as a mask while reciting that part. Cotl is extremely weird because it’s just her and bro. Bro is the final boss she has to overcome fuck lord English. At the end of the day they’re indistinguishable from each other in her head because she recognizes the paradoxical relationship they hold because both are simultaneously the chicken and the egg.

Not to imply she doesn’t have multiple sites she’s on bro just doesn’t feel the need to monitor them in the same way he would if it was d strider. She doesn’t use social media aside from YouTube and mspa forums. She spends her time editing Wikipedia articles and creating internet hoaxes / debunking dumb online stories if they’re boring to her. She wants to understand everything she can in life and then use that understanding to bend the world around her and wring out everything interesting

She watched the higurashi (2006) like two years before the series start and that’s why she is the way she is probably.

She hates the idea of killing but isn’t opposed to torture and she isn’t afraid to die.

I think the weirdest thing to think about are kidswaps like?

Okay d lalonde obviously has mommy and daddy issues like probably even more so than he has in canon but for entirely different reasons

His relationship with mom lalonde is toxic not because one sided antagonism and substance abuse child neglect but because D lalonde is extremely codependent.

He’s his mothers best friend and therapist and she dumps a lot of stuff on him that should be shared with a partner or really just any adult. Like yes she loves him to the edge of the universe and back but there aren’t proper boundaries like a healthy parent child relationship.

He’s a deeply insecure kid who has all his interests enthusiastically supported but he can’t get the one thing he really desires in life. No matter what he does he’s never enough for his mother (or anyone really).

His mother loves him but he’ll never convince her to stop drinking. Jh writes him off consistently and is more concerned with getting to the game so his life can really start. Je thinks that since she’s objectively smarter than him that his company is better suited for other forms of engagement. R spends every conversation metaphorically armed to the teeth and it’s tiresome at times but she understands him the best and some of their conversations are too amusing to complain about.

His mom’s death really fucks him up in a profound way because she told him everything (he thought), but turns out she was just full of secrets. Like the shittiest piñata.

R strider’s mind is just a series of false doors and traps concealing her actual thoughts and feelings. She’s silly but only in private or around her friends.

Her relationship with bro is mutually antagonistic. She knows bro will either die by her hand or his own one day and she’s always plotting ways to one up him. She’s a gamer just like the main timeline and is just behind jh in terms of excitement for the game. She wants to break the game sooo bad.

Instead of monitoring numerous websites and blogs like he did in the main timeline he goes through her personal possessions / writings. “Correcting” her wizard fic with unnecessary comments and scribbling out excerpts entirely.

She takes her time picking bros cameras apart and reassembling them, to a state where they might as well just be thrown away. Sabotage is her middle name.

She despises swords and won’t use them. She doesn’t wear shades (willingly) until je sends her a pair.

She’s a lesbian but can’t use the identifier for herself for like 5 years because of her bro. She has to unpack a lot of her issues later on in meteorstuck and onwards. Sometimes kanaya touches her and she feels like she’ll break.

D refuses to ever touch alcohol because of his mother and thinks r is intentionally antagonizing him by reopening that wound. R doesn’t tell him about anything that’s bothering her and he’s torn between disappointment and relief. R only gets into it because bro was pretty against the drugs/alcohol and even when he’s dead she does things just to spite him. Performing for an audience that’s already checked out, a puppet without a puppeteer.

It “helps” for a while and r wonders if maybe she could’ve been happier living with d’s mom. She feels like they’re kindred spirits but won’t ever express that.

Jh grows up on an island raised by a dog. He’s obsessed with films and adventure but there’s nothing to do on his island no one to meet and it drives him a little crazy. He’s either online or asleep (he sleeps longer because he’s depressed, but isn’t a narcoleptic because vriska still targets je)

He wants his life to start but it just won’t. He hears whispers in his dreams but wakes up not remembering anything.

He looks at everything in his home with disdain because grandpa had some weird interests and he can briefly remember being into some of the things around when he was little, but he isn’t sure why.

He thinks d is sort of a joke but he’s still Jh’s best friend and he’ll be damned if that means nothing. He’s more inclined to listen if d tells him something is serious but it’s really fun to point out when his friend says or does something weird.

He doesn’t remember grandpa when he was alive but he can distinctly remember never giving him a proper burial. Bec never let him anywhere near where grandpa died. He keeps a white sheet over a mannequin and pretends it’s his grandpas ghost.

Je is a prodigy taking college courses paid for by the money her grandmother left her. All around she’s a normal kid for the most part. She and her father aren’t especially close but she loves him and he’s trying but well he doesn’t get the furry thing.

He’s worried about the narcolepsy thing and keeps his pranks aren’t really physical (like where he’s throwing pies in her face etc) but they both share a love of slapstick comedy. Strange things happen around her and she usually sees through his pranks by just knowing Things. She really makes him to fill his pranksters gambit.

He’s proud of his genius daughter everyday, but he worries one day she might be given a heavy burden she can’t shoulder.

She would’ve been named an heiress if sburb hadn’t happened when it did.

The three year trip is kind of a nightmare for them because jh wants to go everywhere and doesn’t mind solitude in exchange for adventure. He wants an escape from the mundanity of life and Je is trying to keep a romantic relationship working with someone she doesn’t respect or understand but who is her friend. she doesn’t understand why things aren’t slotting into place for her. Life is a sitcom and she’s the only one aware of it.

[anomaly-art]

Other's lambs: *either super nice or super badass*

Mine:

Well! I'm finally developing Lamb's personality and own backstory in my... au?? Could it be called an au?

[anomaly-art]

COTL: PARADOX, ¡capítulo 0!

Aquí tenéis el capítulo introductorio, ¡espero que os guste! (Sólo en español, ¡lo siento!)

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Here you have the introductory chapter, I hope you like it! (Only in Spanish, I'm sorry!)

[anomaly-art]

Cult of the Lamb: Paradox

Ya que este post está relacionado con el fic… Qué menos que hacerlo en español ¿no?

Antes que nada… ¡Hola! La verdad es que nunca imaginé que fuera a hacer una publicación de un fic mío. Normalmente los guardo para mí o se los envío a algunos amigos, ¡no pensé que la gente quisiera leerlo! Pero fuisteis varios que me lo comentasteis así que… Decidí hacer un post explicando un poquito de qué va y cómo empecé a escribirlo.

Para empezar, creo que soy más dibujante que escritora. Me gustan muchas disciplinas, pero no me considero maestra de ninguna en concreto ya que muchas las hago por diversión, ¡como la escritura! De hecho, este fic lo comencé hace unos meses después de arrastrar a unos amigos al juego y tras muchas charlas teorizando sobre el lore. Teníamos muchas preguntas y muchos vacíos que resolver y… Al final, no pude aguantar más y me puse a escribir.

Podéis imaginar que me he inventado muchas cosas pues en el juego no se habla de ellas. Procuro investigar mucho y no escribo capítulo sin entrar al juego a comprobar información o con la wiki al lado. Como dije en otra publicación, el relato narra la infancia de Narinder y los obispos, llegando poco a poco al punto en el que empezamos el juego. Aquí tenéis a los pequeños tal y como se ven en el fic.

(Estoy haciendo fichas de los personajes porque algunos amigos no están del todo metidos en el fandom. A Kallamar lo tenía más avanzado que los demás y como veis, hay un personaje de más del que hablaré más abajo x) )

Seguramente muchos otros le den otra interpretación a ciertas cosas… ¡pero esto lo empecé sólo por diversión! Aunque eso no quiere decir que no me lo tome todo lo serio que puedo. De hecho… Uno de los problemas que se me plantea es cómo compartir el fic. Ya tengo escritos diez capítulos (¡queda poquito para cerrar el primer arco!) y cada uno está maquetado, con una tipografía concreta con la que me gusta jugar dependiendo de la situación. ¡Y algunos también tienen música! Me había planteado compartirlo a través de google drive, ¡aunque se aceptan sugerencias!

¡Aquí tenéis el diseño de uno de los capis!

(Ahora mismito, aunque sigo escribiendo, me estoy centrando un poquito más en revisar los diez primeros porque, pese a que los reviso mucho, siempre se me escapa alguna errata… Y además quiero mejorar el diseño de las páginas un poquito)

Por último, hay un tema que me gustaría compartir y es que, como dije antes, este fic lo comencé por mí y por mis amigos cercanos. Cada uno tenía una historia en mente y, claro, terminamos por añadir algún que otro OC. ¡Aquí los tenéis!

Para mí, crear un OC de algún fandom concreto supone una forma de alabar el juego o la serie que sea. Son fandoms que me gustan tanto que deseo crear algo que pudiera formar parte de ese universo, aunque sólo se quede en mi cabeza y no sea oficial. Aunque sé que a algunas personas puede que no les guste tanto. Si aun así hay gente interesada, ¡estaré encantada de compartir el fic!