#conriya

[disventure-camp-hot-takes]

Disventure camp fans will be like "eww age gap conriya makes me uncomfortable" and then ship Riya with a teenager

[alumi-san]

The fact that Tomjake kissed only ONCE despite all the focus on them.

The canon ship kisses count:

Jaiden (5)

Gabellie (3 (plus 2 extra kisses from Gabby on the cheek))

Conriya (2)

Riyalec (2)

Tomjake (1)

Huntess (1)

Huntally (1)

Wishley (1)

Destal? (1)

Trevek (1)

[canonically47]

shout out to the two anons in my inbox, days apart, who had the exact same thoughts on romance in DCAS

like we still had a chance to breathe with jaiden but now that james is gone .. ☹️

we can still win by making tom aromantic, in this essay i will-

[da-cannibal]

some good soft conriya 🤭🤭🤭

[annimator]

OH FUCK

(THAT NEW EPISODE WAS SOMETHING ALRIGHT. REACTION’S UNDER THE CUT)

• I never get old of hearing Trevek recap last episode together. IT’S SO CUTE

• “Lynda gets ostracized by the girls alliance, as a Ted wins an Oscar for guy pretending to care.” Damn, Derek saw through his bullshit

• “Jade found the idol after working with Spencer, who lost the Oscar for guy he’s gets around.” WHY DID TREVOR SHADE SPENCER LIKE THAT LMAO

• “And finally, Logan kissed a dude!” “What? Like it’s hard?” DEREK.

• NAH HE WAS DEFINITELY TEASING TREVOR CONSIDERING THE KISS THEY SHARED DURING ALL STARS (I was almost gonna say it was their first kiss, but I remembered their staff stories episode confirmed that they kissed on complete accident prior to season 1 lmao. Also their AS kiss was genuinely my favourite part of episode 18)

• Bye Amelie

• INTRO TIME WOOOOOOO

• WAIT NO HANNAH & TRISTAN ARE SAD FML

• Aw, Zaid’s comforting them

• YOOOO BENJI’S GETTING CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

• “Try to find your peeps! Y’know, people you get along with; like me, Tristan, & Zaid!” I LOVE HOW IVY VIEWS THE THREE OF THEM AS BESITES

• “But here I am… a bottom.” ._.

• DIEGO WAS GONNA GIVE A MANGO TO ZAID ONLY TO IMMEDIATELY HAND IT OVER TO SPENCER AFTER HE SAID HE WAS HUNGRY LMAOOOOOOO

• also studyguide crumbs. pog

• “Are you two gonna…” “No! Oh god no, and never in a million years! I would kill my mother before-“ SPENCE YOU DID NOT HAVE TO EXAGGERATE LIKE THAT

• ALSO I SAW THAT ONE GREETING WHERE SPENCER WAS GETTING ALL FLUSTERED & SHIT OVER SOMEONE CALLING DIEGO HIS BOYFRIEND. “PURELY PLATONIC” MY ASS YA FUCKING NERD, I’VE SEEN & READ A BUNCH OF GAY SHIT (/pos) TO KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING-

• Oooooo Benji’s snooping on their convoooo

• This fucking dork’s praising himself. look at him go :D

• Man, Jade & Diego’s convo about how this game fucks with relationships is giving me flashbacks to prior seasons

• “The stress of this game strains relationships. We seen it before!” *cough* conriya (/j)

• Aight, look like Diego won’t be- ah fuck Benji ruined it lmao

• Yeah, Spencer’s pissed lmao

• OMG IT’S THE ZAIVY MOMENT FROM THE SEASON TRAILER

• off topic-ish, but I noticed that most of the hetero OTPs I have are definitely… interesting. Like yeah there’s Zaivy & Taoelle (Heartstopper is genuinely one of my favourite graphic novel series/webcomics/tv shows btw), but the other two I can list from the top of my head rn is a Giant girl & a Fairy king, and a sentient fire & leaf.

• Also Ivy’s swimsuit is probably my favourite one from this season

• THEY LOOK SO CUTE TOGETHER WTF

• Oh, so he’s gonna catch the crab & cook it. My dumbass thought he was gonna scare it before someone corrected me in my askbox back when I dropped my season trailer post lol

• Tristan appearance :D

• THE CRAB FLIPPED THEM OFF? LMAO

• The boys are plotting shit

• Richard making Logan integrate with the girls because he’s the youngest of the three of them makes sense tbh, I don’t feel like watching any “fellow kids” shit lmao

• Not Richard full-naming Ted like that

• NATALIA’S TEASING LOGAN ABOUT THAT KISS LMAO

• Marissa, you’re doing great sweetie

• wlw & mlm solidarity, nice >:3

• Uh oh, Lynda’s pissed

• Aw, Richard’s talking about his family :D

• Lynda is there smth u wanna share with the class? wdym you don’t get that Richard’s married to another man >:(

• “People are gay Lynda.” WAIT I KNOW THE MEME POST THIS QUOTE IS BASED OFF OF LMAO

• THE OLD PEOPLE ARE FIGHTINGGGGGGG

• “Well! I’m fucked!” LMAOOO

• Hannah’s still sad :(

• None of the Blue team members gaf about Amelie being eliminated lol

• WHY DOES TREVEK LOOK SO SILLY WITH THOSE HUNTER HATS ON. I LOVE THEM

• I love how Tristan doesn’t look like he put any face paint on compared to everyone else with the clown makeup lol

• YOOOO HANNAH’S CRACKED AT ARCHERY THAT’S AWESOME

•ofc Anastasia hates the clown makeup

• “We’ll give the prey a 30 second head-start! Something they will desperately need, especially when they find out that their time has already started once I started talking!” “…” “I mean it! Go!” comedy gold right here lol

• THE OLD PEOPLE ARE STILL FIGHTINGGGGG

• Richard intentionally made Lynda get caught lmao

• TRISTAN’S TEASING ZAID ABOUT IVY LMAO

• “You can deny it all you want, but I see your face and it is mad red!” I LOVE HOW RELATABLE TRISTAN IS TO ME

• YOOO MORE ANARISSA CRUMBS :DDDDD

• “Ugh, don’t tell me it’s Lynda’s bullshit again.” Damn, she fucking hates that old lady

• WAIT SPENCER WAS THE MF THAT THREW THE BASKETBALL AT ISABEL’S FACE?!

• I love how Natalia immediately fired back at Spencer after that.

• HELP BENJI & SPENCER ARE SHIT-TALKING EACH OTHER’S GLASSES LENSES LMAO

• I love Hannah talking about her mom in a positive light :D

• “I’d like to have some words with her.” …who’s gonna tell him

• “Hannah, I’m joking! If I meet her, I promise I’ll be nice!” “Wish you could…” OW

• “You’d really like him mom.” I WASN’T EXPECTING THIS EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

• how the fuck did Logan manage to barricade him self in a whole-ass bottle barricade cylinder thingy

• DAMN WHY WAS THIS PART SO FUCKING DRAMATIC (/pos)

• THE ANIMATORS REALLY DECIDED TO MAKE THE PART WHERE TRISTAN GETS SHOT BY TED SLOW MOTION, AND TRISTAN OVER-DRAMATICALLY TOLD ZAID TO CARRY ON BEFORE TED IMMEDIATELY SHOT HIM AFTER THEY FINISHED TALKING LMAOOOOO

• Oooh first greetings promo :D

• also, Jayce sounds so different when he’s not voicing Tom

• “They can give you words of wisdom, sing you a song, or give you their credit card information!” LMAOOO

• THE OLD PEOPLE ARE STILL FIGHTINGGGGGG

• God tier voice acting from Ted’s VA btw. That man has bills to pay

• oh shit, I recognize that somber background music

• Hannah was reminded of her mom’s death when Amelie got booted out because she lost the both of them so soon in her perspective FAWK

• “But you not alone, and it’s a game! There’s no goodbyes, only see you laters! So make sure you do them proud, alright?” That’s some good wisdom right there Diego, the fandom will NEVER make me hate you

• FUCK YEAH HANNAH AIMED THE WINNING SHOT. SHE ATE

• Derek asked Spencer on where he hid since he & Trevor wanted to know, only to cut him off lmao

• Ah fuck, Blue Teams UFA… I am NOT gonna finish this episode upset cause I love the entire team… and also Lynda

• Wait the girls wanna vote for Richard? :(

• nvm they said they’re voting for Ted when Logan dipped

• Oh shit, Isabel’s getting strategic by mentioning the chance that Logan could snitch to the others, and if someone might play the idol. Almost made me forget she got one in Ep 2

• “Logan’s a boy, Anastasia’s a girl. I need to nip this OBVIOUS romance!” Jokes on you Lynda, it’s heavily implied that Anastasia’s a lesbian. Also Logan’s totally bi

• Aw Natalia feels bad for playing with Logan

• Logan’s struggling :(

• “The vote is nigh! Time to say goodbye! Did’ya like that one Derek? Thought of that by myself!” MY GOD THESE HOMOSEXUALS

• TREVOR WAS NUDGING DEREK, AND HIS BISEXUAL ASS WAS STARING AT HIM WHILE HE WAS DOING THAT. (oh ye, both of them were confirmed to be bi btw :p)

• THE GUYS (& Lynda lol) WANNA VOTE OUT ANASTASIA?! THINK OF THE YURI PLOT /j

• oh shit wait

• WAIT

• HE’S GETTING VOTED OUT THIS EARLY?!

• ok it’s fine. IT’S FINEEEEE

• HE’LL TOTALLY REJOIN. TRUST ME

• WAIT LOGAN TURNED ON THEM BECAUSE HE DIDN’T WANT TO VOTE FOR ANASTASIA

• OMG RICHARD’S PISSED I HATE IT HERE ;-;

• “Never bet on black? More like never bet on BLUE!” OW

• Ted’s face immediately going from upset to sad once it cuts to him riding the boat genuinely made me sad. I thought the concept of him being a pro poker player was interesting, and once the auditions dropped, I started rooting for him (and also the rest of the cast). so this SUCKS

• Also I just realized both of the blue team eliminations so far ended with Logan feeling sad/guilty. When Alessio left he was sad because everyone voted him out for keeping to himself (and also I’d cry too after hearing his last monologue tbh), and now’s he sad because he realized the girls played him like a fiddle

• Marissa wants to try & bring Lynda back into the alliance? Good luck with that

• Yeah all in all, pretty great episode! Shipping crumbs were great, especially with Zaivy, Hannah got a moment in the spotlight, and I actually kinda liked how Ted’s elimination was played out despite the fact that I’m still kinda upset over it!

• The season as a whole’s been pretty great now that I think about it :D

• Also now that we’re a couple episode in, I’ll now be ranking the eliminated contestants on how sad I was when they got booted!

3) Amelie

2) Ted

1) Alessio (what were you expecting? I WANTED HIM TO BEAT THE FIRST BOOT ALLEGATIONS!)

• WAIT I JUST REALIZED TED GOT HIT WITH THE GIFT OF PROPHECY

• HE SAID THAT HE WAS FUCKED IN THAT CUTAWAY PROBABLY AS A JOKE OR SOME SHIT, AND HE ENDED UP GETTING ELIMINATED

• SUBTLE FORESHADOWING I GUESS?????

[sinclarify]

'conriya' this 'aleconnor' that I THINK CONNOR SHOULD KISS ME!!!!!!!!ahem. sorry. i quite like that old man

[accirax]

initial thoughts on DCAS episode 15

good job Ally... couldn't be me :,)

Alec that's incredibly dangerous you're going to CHOP OFF YOUR HAND--

oh, the sinking feeling in my chest when (approximately) this was revealed to be the thumbnail. i figured that, if Riya changed her mind and decided that she actually liked Alec, that would have been a spoiler to conceal, so this was going to be manipulation of some sort. before anyone comments on it, i just want to say that i don't think this was assault on Riya's part-- it was a shitty thing to do to both Connor and Alec, but i don't think Alec was necessarily non-consenting. still, i have a hard time seeing how Alec and Riya are supposed to cut it as a non-toxic canon ship after this. RIP Connor.

are people who are fans of ~characters who haunt the narrative~ fans of Yul?

i'm sorry Ally; i didn't know better!!! you really did have no personality in s2!!!!

... do we need to be nicer to ONC or something?

if you want to continue working with Riya and Alec why would you say this to their faces? well, i guess keeping her honest opinions to herself has never been Grett's strong suit :) (/aff)

if i'm not allowed to be a whiny bitch, YOU AREN'T EITHER! Connor and Jake's dynamic is really fun; it makes me like both of them more.

props to Jake's VA, the slight country accent here was so funny to me

very bold! even if she then decided to violate that trust...

what the fuck are you talking about

my 1 social media manager. and yes, she smokes weed.

i'm so curious to know where this is going. don't do anything stupid, Trevor. like Kristal putting the firing of Emily on national TV was a terrible thing to do, but don't go back to jail over this (or Derek).

i want to believe that Derek was super overacting here to impress Kristal and prop up how good and dramatic her challenge idea was. he's a dork when it comes down to it.

HELP

this was literally the funniest way to have Jake win this challenge. it's accurate, too.

dude did you not see when Ally literally said she was in love with Hunter like a week after meeting him

sharing a comment that @venus-is-thinking had: given that Alec answered the question about loving his son thinking that the answer was "yes" but the helmet could tell that the answer was really "no," it seems like these helmets are more about determining the truth rather than sharing what the wearer thinks is the truth. Riya even fails to fake the machine later, implying that her acting is NOT good enough to fool the helmets. thus, Riya may have actually wanted to befriend Ally for real, and is lying to herself about how she feels. food for thought!

so they DID actually go on dates after s2 ended. does Riya's answer to this question suggest that conriya(?) is back on? i really don't know if that's good for either of them.

... idk what this says about my Hunter lifting math ',:/ also, this means that each bag weighs 30 lbs, as Grett was holding 4 bags at the time. people were lifting a lot!

i think Jake is contractually obligated to pull out the shiny eyes at least once per episode at this point. also, Ally, you fool-- these questions themselves ARE Jake's opportunity to trauma dump on people for profit!

... well that was fruity!

WHO TAUGHT HIM???

Riya expanding her catalogue to push even the straights off of things... unless?

Alec really has become such a failwife in these past few episodes.

Connor winner edit jumpscare

this is kind of a slay alliance ngl. i love Grett's villainous tendencies so much. (well, at least when it comes to strategizing-- not bullying Gabby)

so, as i've been alluding to throughout these thoughts, this doesn't... super make sense to me? like, after Grett directly told Alec that she doesn't trust him or Riya anymore, and extended the idol to Connor and Jake as a sign of trust, she decides to backstab the heroes anyway and continue working with Alec and Riya? Venus explained to me that if Grett joined the villains alliance with Aiden still in the game she just would've been on the bottom of that alliance (and thus locked out of f3 probably), and that she'll be in enough of a power position that it doesn't matter if others are bitter towards her now, but idk. given that Connor has the idol and she knows it, i feel like i'd be afraid that everyone would just unite against me next episode. anyways, goodbye Aiden-- finally voted out after, what, 27 episodes played? a true all star, but one who pretty clearly wasn't going to last forever.

Aiden was so funny for this. i love their friendship of continuously roasting each other. it's what we wanted and deserved.

overall, this was a GREAT episode for Grett's winner cut.

i definitely enjoyed this episode much more than i did the last. we had a really good challenge this time around! i love challenges that also give us information as to how the contestants feel about each other. i'm also glad that we've officially dissolved the heroes and villains thing, simply having three pairs of Alec/Riya, Jake/Connor, and Ally/Grett. i'm sure that'll make for a spicy elimination next episode, especially with an idol in play. we're really at 50% finalist now... i can't wait to see who makes it!

[disventurecamptakes]

Extremely upsetting elimination aside: Does anyone else feel like Episode 17 focused WAY too much on Conriya? Or is it just me ?

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[disventure-rewrite-takes]

mod, this is not a rewrite idea, but I was curious as to what ships from this show you do and don't care for?

ahh thanks for the ask!!! out of everyone i literally just care for gabellie and jaiden. jaiden were done so well (probably because ONC have a. thing. for mlm romance) and even though gabellie did not have the perfect execution, oh man do i miss them.

i also used to really like tomjake. like, a lot. i found the show back when season 1 was still airing, i think episode 8 had just come out, and i was rooting for these two like crazy. ellie splitting them apart made me dislike her but ultimately, after seeing them continue to bitch and moan long after ellie did her thing, i realized it was a them problem, not a her problem.

conriya is an age gap ship i never understood why we were going for since they always had zero chemistry, in season 2 i saw it as connor just being his genuine kind self; grul is. grul. huntally is so boring and everything could have been fixed if huntessally happened LIKE IT WAS SET UP!!!!!! vut just as vivziepop cannot confirm an aro character neither can ONC poly ones. because its too risky to step out of the amatonormative norm, so they just stick to gays, lesbians and bisexuals. whom like obviously could use the rep but atp im happy ONC covered neither aro or poly people because they do a horrible job with the aforementioned already.

wishley happened off-screen for the sake of wishley fans being satisfied, they’re the forced token straight couple, why would i care for them?

trevek is... a mess. i used to say i shipped them to blend in with other fans but i really never cared for them. i’ve always thought derek treated trevor like shit and saw no appeal for this ship. i am so mad at ONC for making it canon because it’s so obviously just fan service, there is no canon reason for trevor to like derek, it’s just shoved in our faces because hey!! remember them!! background characters can’t have a meaningful story without romance right!! let’s make trevor pine!! and it’s so annoying because he was such a lovely character outside of derek. but now he’s just jake 2.0 and i am so afraid that krystrevek will just become tomjakeden 2.0 because god forbid we don’t have a forced mlm love triangle. everyone loves that right!!!!! right!!!!!!!!!!!

if i say i ship anything else besides gabellie or jaiden especially ships i am actively hating here,, i have either rewritten them really well in my head or gone crazy. and given that i hc half the cast as arospec either option is possible.

i’ve been tempted lately to start a commentary youtube channel (funky frog bait, danny gonzalez, kurtis conner, chad chad type of thing yk) and i have so many (negative) video ideas about disventure camp. i would be too powerful for the small screens. and so i remain here

[canonically47]

sending in my request for a review early! I am so ahead of the curve you guys

DCAS episode 15 - review

spoilers!!! (duh.)

i'm surprised with how much jakeden nation both won and lost tonight, but before we get into that...

oh my god alec never liked riya. do you guys understand how big this is for me. HE NEVER LIKED HER!!! this is such a good moment for his character i'm so happy they made this choice! alec's just fucked up and can't communicate and is not the best person. he just feels lonely without a romantic partner. this is so real of him he's so aroace-coded but i was half expecting him to say he liked connor HAHA

uhhh riya can go die in a ditch

while jake was not his best self this episode, for example making the question about hunter which was sooo low omfg,,, i 110% think he acted better than ally

i don't get why the DSVC universe treats lie detectors as this ultimate being and not just.. some faulty machine

like. its a machine. it will have errors. sure i dont trust that alec ever loved his son he has issues and allat but like. ugh

i also hate that theyre kind of pushing for conriya again? like riya is shown feeling bad after saying something to connor or something like that 🤔 it's sooo weird esp bc she pushes him in the lake later like girl make up your mind

period trevor you protect your peace

so happy to see emily again. i'm curious as to what this 'revenge' she's talking about is. please if we get a tremily kiss i will be so happy they're THE qpr

ally was super bad this episode. like so bad. unbelievably bad. like cheers for voting with the villains but you're just as petty as jake

and somehow jake was my favorite this episode and i cheered when he got immunity. HE WAS MY FAVORITE AGAIN. WHAT. yk this shows getting bad when jakes my favorite

connor was up there too fr!!!

i was sure aiden was going but. man i wasnt really ready for it. i definitrly think it was his time but not like this. damn it ally how come you want to be liked yet youre a mythic bitch

anyways jakeden collection

they hugged... im so emotional they hugged....... do you understand how much they ,ean to me do you can you

grettally shippers we also won today. keep your head up

uhhhh 7/10 its actually a very decent episode and the things holding it back from being a 10/10 are the weird conriya thing (??), ally, jake going backwards for two seconds and connor being a moany bitch, though jake solved that one pretty quickly shoutout jake for that slap

[canonically47]

review?

DCAS episode 17 - review

spoilers!! (but you knew that.)

i could’ve been writing poolverine fic to spend my time in a more rewarding way than watching this show but oh well we’re here now (read my new poolverine fic here btw they make me sick)

of course it had to be grett. with basically zero build-up, they have yet again eliminated a strong, powerful female character to let a boring romantic relationship with so much miscommunication get screentime instead. they fucked ellie over for the sake of tomjake and now they did it to grett for the sake of conriya.

it makes me actually sick how much ONC does not care for their characters. they’re such fucking sell-outs. i get creating characters just to make them fuck or die but for god’s sake you’re writing a show with thousands of fans. at least pretend to give them something. throw us a bone ffs

if it’s not evident by now, i think this episode was horrendously average. i would tear it down for being out of character, but what pisses me off is that it’s not. connor reverting back to his old self is not ooc, that’s for sure.

i’ll give them this, it was refreshing to not see the children jake and ally fight every ten seconds. good to see them working together, i guess.

riya winning by riding spirit was stupid. the rules were laid out in a way that i thought she would have to cross the line with bojack. and then it’s just like. nah it’s any horse actually. who cares. go wild.

riya winning in general was stupid. they forced a forgive-and-betray arc on her in the last second because they didn’t want to let her go and fuck that drives me crazy.

as the last gen 1 standing, i think it’s safe to assume jake will be in the finale. alongside him will probably be connor, because they wouldn’t pull that entire ambulance thing if he wouldn’t make it to the end, and riya, because connor has to defeat the big bad. or something. idrk what he has to do actually because one minute he’s over riya and the next his tongue is down her throat. i’m sick /neg

i miss when this show was actually good and actually cared for its characters. come back to me S1 ellie. come back to me S2 ally. come back to me S2 connor with no screentime to be fucked over by. come back to me actually good DSVC episode. come back

i’m only giving it this high of a rating because it’s in-character for all the stupid shit to happen, and as much as i hate to admit it, that shot with riya seeing herself surrounded by cameras and forcing herself to pretend was great. too bad she wasn’t in a better show with better writing and better lines and better voice acting to actually make that scene work. 5/10

[canonically47]

review

oh fuck the episode dropped HAHAHA i forgottt... i promise i’m not gonna watch a leak next week i prommy....... anyways

DCAS ep 16 - review

spoilers! (no duh.)

ally finally got an arc and she’s just some corny recycled version of riya. seriously how does this grown woman spend her almost entire screentime fighting with jake like a pathetic elementary schooler.

her lines are so corny like omfg get off your high horse. i used to pray to like her bc i never saw the hype and i guess i now know why

jake was ok this episode, theyre still not backtracking on his development which makes me super hopeful for his future

grett absolutely carried this episode. her and jake are definitely my top choices for the top 2

hearing kristal hype up & seeing grown ass adults panic over a 12-piece puzzle was absolutely hilarious. like. oh my god connor you cannot be this stupid

i knew alec’s days were numbered as soon as he was made into a whiny bitch (jake 3.0 because jake 2.0 is connor) aaand this did not surprise me sadly. tbh the first info i got on the episode was his elim so i was kinda sad but at the same time they ruined him a bit this season so it was for the best

they tied up his loose ends okay. he dropped riya and apologized to connor. i know i hc him as aroace but he seriously is making it so hard. he’s so pathetic (/pos) around connor like. i know what you are you bi-alligned aroace

the idol play was so fun and clever yaya

alec’s exit was so awkwardly edited i think he’s the first character to not get like 🤔 a close-up or someone leading them to the bus. “thank you connor” *awkwardly standing* “for what?” “for everything” *awkward transition* like omfg he deserved so much better

uhhh idrc for the staff or for conriya idk why they’re still pushing some angst for them nobody gaf

it’s a forgettable episode except for maybe the idol strategy which was pretty fun 🤷🏼 as i mentioned i think grett and jake are making finale and i could see connor winning atp. with alec gone idk how riya will manage with grett having connor jake AND ally close to her. so my choice for next boot is her. it’s a doozy to say who could go next but probs ally. ONC doesn’t like her enough to give her a good and long arc

6/10 it was fine and underwhelming. not episode 14 bad tho. thank god

[canonically47]

odd nations: okay so this ship is going to have tension and become toxic for plot reasons!!

me, aromantic and already salty about not being able to fall in love: what if you didn’t!!

no but seriously if I see another ‘love is DYING🥺’ plot line I’m gonna scream, conflict in dc needs to revolve around more than romantic love

SERIOUSLY, and this happens with ALL ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS!!!???!!!???!!! wishley and jaiden got spared but ion even give a fuck about wishley and we barely got any jaiden. tomjake, huntally (not that i care about them lolol), conriya, bro even gabellie... i am suferring JUST LET THEM BE HAPPY THE FUCK??? cheap ass angst