#comshipping positive

[sweet-ladys-things]

Antis: "How is writing about murder/gore and pedophilia/incest the same!? Drawing gore is way different!!"

They're both crimes.

That's how they're the same.

They both will send you to jail irl. Both murder and pedophilia will send you to jail. That's how they're the same.

That's why writing/drawing murder and torture is in the same boat as pedophilia. They're just two different forms of horror. If drawing torture doesn't mean you want to actually torture someone then drawing incest doesn't mean you actually want to have sex with your siblings.

Because they are the same.

[virtual-kangel]

antis: *enjoying media with dark themes like murder, drug trafficking, abuse, etc *

also antis when the media becomes even remotely sexual:

[entirely-strange]

"it doesnt matter if its fictional or not!" then whats the difference? why isnt the police investigating r34 and ao3 the same way they investigate dark web sites? why is it wrong to hear someones trauma and then say "this is just like that one anime"?

[charlizie]

“Freaks DNI!” what do you mean by that. because some people consider gay and trans people to be freaks. some people consider pocs and other minorities to be freaks. what do you mean by freaks dni

[dumplingprincessextraordinaire]

Some TCOAAL indulgence

Art by @MinayaKm1015 on twitter

[kynibyou]

to those who struggle with having an f/o that is especially exceptional or talented — just know that you don’t have to be “on par” with their abilities to be deserving of them! they love you for who you are and the love you give — not for what you can do or what you “bring” to the table! they love you as you are, regardless of perceived abilities, talents, or limitations.

[muwwwsky]

this person reblogs “cringe” posts and makes fun of people with deviant/proship views. So, just block them. No, seriously, don’t write them negative messages or anything, they’re too stupid, just block them so they can’t contact you. If you want, reblog this post so other people can block them.

[joestarkisser]

Selfshippers who are more "submissive" in their selfships are extremely valid. But, there isn't much love for selfshippers who are "dominant"!

Selfshippers who make all the meals for their F/O when they're sick.

Selfshippers who sit beside their F/O and comfort them when they're upset, when they're breaking down.

Selfshippers who do all the work for their exhausted, mentally or otherwise, F/O.

Selfshippers who make all the money, if it's needed.

Selfshippers who like to be the one complimenting and peppering in kisses, not the other way around.

Selfshippers who prefer to be the one laid on at night, their F/O safe and sound in their arms.

While selfship spaces can be more catered to those who are 'submissive', you 'dominant' selfshippers are just as important! Just as amazing! Just as worthy of being here!

[kawaiikeis-blog]

[rippedangelwings]

Remember that you don't have to be purely darkship in order to be valid as a proshipper. You can purely ship non-problematic pairings and still be proship. I've seen proshippers(mostly edgy teenagers) clown on other proshippers because of what they ship. This community is to support all fictional ships, not support one more than the other.

[sad-drake-lyrics]

what my 65yo father has to say about antis:

let me preface this by saying, i literally wish i had what just happened on video to go viral on TikTok. i was shook by this conversation down to my bones; and if you could see my father - a loud old Italian man with dramatic hand gestures - say what he had to say, i think this shit would blow up. but as i was obviously not filming him while we were eating, i will have to relay to you the story with my words.

so i'm sitting eating dinner at the coffee table with my father while watching TV, as Americans often do instead of eating at the dinner table, and since the news was on he started telling me this story that had been recently mentioned on TV once again from maybe ten years ago (it was in 2014, you can read about it here) where these two 12-year-old girls killed one of their friends as a sacrifice to the Slender Man. yeah, real thing. fucked up.

and so my father told me about how they interviewed one of the killer's mothers, and when questioned about where her daughter's motive could've come from, she said something along the lines of: you know, when i was a kid, i was into Stephen King and horror - and so when my kid was into that kind of stuff, i didn’t think it was a big deal.

so, of course, my response was "yeah, being into that stuff isn’t a big deal at all - it's normal - but being a sociopath and murdering someone is not normal; it's fucked up. but there's nothing wrong with being into horror stories - they're just stories meant to entertain - it doesn't make you a murderer to enjoy Halloween - but it would if you put on a Michael Myers mask and went out and stabbed people." and, of course, like any sane person, my father agreed with me.

then, continuing this line of conversation, i started talking about the concept of how "fiction isn’t reality," and how a frightening amount of people don't understand that; and i literally started telling him about antis - people on the internet who attack and harass others over "problematic" or "inappropriate" fictional interests.

i used well-known pop culture examples like: if you're into Game of Thrones and like Jaime and Cersei together or wanted Jon and Daenerys to end up together (i didn't think he would process the term "shipping," but clearly by the end of this conversation i think i was wrong), that people (antis) will say things like "you should die," and that you "support inc*st in real life," and that "you're disgusting."

i also used the examples of "toxic relationships" in pop culture, like the Joker and Harley Quinn, or Kylo Ren and Rey, and how if you’re into those kinds of fictional relationships that people (antis) will say that you "support toxic relationships," and that you are "glorifying abuse," and that it all "must be what you really want and believe is right or good."

and my fucking 65-year-old father literally goes: "I don’t understand. It’s a TV show. Don't they know it’s fake?"

queue my jaw dropping to the fucking ground because i'm like. YES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PRO-SHIPPERS ARE TRYING TO SAY AND THESE PEOPLE DON'T GET IT.

he was flabbergasted, my pals. the shock in his eyes was incredible to behold.

and, oh boy, that isn't even the best part, guys.

my father then says, "Don’t tell me it’s like that with anime too?"

and i said, "it's worse with anime."

and i fucking swear to you - no joke, on my life and baby Jesus' cradle - again my 65-year-old father looks at me and says, “It’s a fucken cartoon."

... ... ...

... i can't ...

i can't end this post better than that.

[kynibyou]

if you ever think that your f/os would get annoyed by you talking about your interests and fixations— you’re wrong! your f/os would happily engage in all of of your hobbies and fixations you have!

they love to hear you talk about them, love seeing how happy you get, and love to engage in all of your interests with you! they’re happy to get into things for you because they love understanding what you enjoy and love to participate in the things that’ll make you smile! you may have an f/o who won’t fully understand it, but they want to and wish to put in the effort just for you.

so tell them all about your theories for your favorite shows, the lore behind your favorite games, or about your latest project! they’ll always be happy to listen!

[paranormalsylvi]

Shoutout to all Selfshippers.

Shoutout to the women who selfship, to the men who selfship, to the intersex people, to the nonbinary people and other trans people who selfship. Shoutout to the Xenogender Selfshippers and those who prefer to stay unlabeled.

Shoutout to the black Selfshippers, to the white Selfshippers, to asian Selfshippers and to all the other people of color in the community. Shoutout to those of you who speak english, those who don't, those who only speak one language and those who speak multiple.

Shoutout to the Selfshippers who don't use she/her pronouns, to the ones who use she/her pronouns! Shoutout to the he/him, they/them, it/its, neopronouns and no pronouns using Selfshippers.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who date men and those who date women. And Shoutout to Selfshippers who date both men and women, or even anyone that isn't either. Shoutout to the Selfshippers whose F/Os have no canon gender or are canonically genderless.

Shoutout to neurodivergent Selfshippers, to those of you who have personality disorders and dissociative disorders. Shoutout to those of you who struggle with social interactions, who need a constant reassurance, to those who feel safest in their relationship with their F/Os.

Shoutout to disabeled Selfshippers, to those who don't always need their aid and to those who do always need them! To Selfshippers who have learned to live with their disability and embrace it the best they can, and those who struggle daily with their disability.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who are Aromantic or Asexual, to Selfshippers who are Fictosexual and Fictoromantic. Shoutout to the staight, gay, lesbian, bi, pan, omni and poly Selfshippers. Shoutout to the Selfshippers whos Orientation can't be tied down with those words and to Selfshippers who refuse to label themselves.

Shoutout to monogamous Selfshippers, to polyamorous Selfshippers, those who are ambiamorous and those who don't label themselves in this regard.

Shoutout to the Selfshippers who are also Plural or Otherkin, to the Therians and Fictionkins. A Shoutout to the Selfshippers who are IRLs of Characters and those who heavily identify with certain characters for any reason whatsoever.

Shoutout to the Selfshippers who ship with their F/Os for fun, and to those who take their relationship with their F/Os serious. Shoutout to those whose F/Os have saved them and to those who save their F/Os.

Shoutout to Selfshippers to ship with popular characters, to those who ship with unpopular characters. Shoutout to those who ship with main characters, those who ship with side characters, to those who ship with villains, and those who ship with background characters. Shoutout to those who took their F/Os and made them an OC to save them from their source.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who accept all of their F/Os canon, to those who only accept certain aspects as canon and those who refuse all of their canon.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who have interacted with, watched and read all of their F/Os sourcematerial. Shoutout to those who haven't watched everything, regardless of if you plan to or not. Shoutout to the Selfshippers who have not once interacted with their F/Os source.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who draw Art of their F/Os, who draw Art with them and their F/Os, to those who write about their F/Os and to those who don't do any of this. Shoutout to those who daydream about their F/Os and those who dream about their F/Os at night.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who only have one F/O, to those who have multiple. Shoutout to those who have only romantic F/Os and to those who have not one romantic F/O. Shoutout to the Selfshippers who ship platonically, queerplatonically, romantically, familial or any other way.

Shoutout to the young Selfshippers in the Community, to the teens and the adults. Shoutout to those who only started selfshipping now and those who have selfshipped for years on end.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who feel as though selfshipping saved their life. Shoutout to those who use it as a coping mechanism, to those who beat loneliness and to those who use it as a means of getting through their daily life.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who date someone next to their F/Os, to those who love both their Significant Other and their Fictional Other. Shoutout to those who don't want to date someone in real life because they feel content with their F/Os and to those who can't date someone in real life due to being so committed to their F/Os.

Shoutout to Selfshippers with F/Os from popular media, to those with F/Os from their childhood media and to those with really unknown or obscure media.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who go to school, who work or who are at home. Shoutout to the Selfshippers who struggle with life and those who are secure and happy.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who would give everything to have their F/Os be real and to those who are fine with them being fictional. Shoutout to Selfshippers who struggle to understand that their F/Os are fictional.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who have found their family in their F/Os, to those with two families now, to Selfshippers who have a friendgroup of F/Os.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who are comfortable sharing their F/Os, to those who feel uncomfortable with sharing them. Shoutout to Selfshippers whos boundaries around their F/Os change, to the Selfshippers who feel guilty for their boundaries. Shoutout to the Selfshippers who feel embarassed about their F/Os or feel embarassed about gushing about them.

Shoutout to the Selfshippers who see themselves as pretty and those who don't. Shoutout to those of you that are insecure, that feel embarassed about certain aspects of their looks and those who love themselves fully.

Shoutout to skinny Selfshippers, to chubby and fat Selfshippers. Shoutout to those of you who love their body and those who don't. Shoutout to those of you who have stretch marks, those who have body hair and shave and those who don't shave.

Shoutout to Selfshippers with dyed hair and those who keep their hair natural. Shoutout to those with tattoos and those with piercings.

Shoutout to Selfshippers who own a bunch of merch of their F/Os and shoutout to those of you who don't have any merch at all. Shoutout to those of you who have F/Os that have no merch and to those of you who don't have the money to buy merch. Shoutout to those of you who make their own merch of their F/Os, those who commission others and those who buy their merch online.

Shoutout to all and any Selfshipper. Know that your F/Os love you - because you're the definition of perfect to them.

[selfmadescientist-moved]

shout out to people with f/os that are hated by the fandom for being morally reprehensible

the f/o that is a rapist

the f/o that abuses animals

the f/o that is canonically a pedophile

the f/o that is a stalker

the f/o that is a bully

the f/o that is an abuser

the f/o that hurts others no reason other than they enjoy it

the f/o that has no desire to get better

the f/o that is an unsympathetic villain

the f/o that treats everyone around them like garbage because they feel like they're the only person with coherent thought in the general vicinity

the f/o that killed off one of the characters you're supposed to root for and supposed to like

the f/o that you can see part of yourself in, maybe even when most people think that'd be a red flag

... and shout out to you, selfshipper, for loving them despite it all! or because of it all. ^_^

[kawaiikeis-blog]

Average anti

[shipperssupport]

Proshipper ≠ comshippers ≠ dark/problematicshipper

Even though it may seem silly, these labels do not mean the same thing! Each one has its meaning and use even though they sound "similar".

Proshipper:

A person who is "pro" (for) shipping in general. Typically refers to someone who follows the philosophy "ship and let ship" and ignore or blocks ships or shippers they are uncomfortable with. An anti-censorship stance that promotes currating your own experience online, and avoiding any content you don't want to interact with, while supporting the rights of others to create and consume any type of fiction they enjoy.

Your basic "idea" would be:

don't like, don't look

don't harass people, especially over fiction

ship and let ship

curate your own internet experience

tag your stuff and blacklist stuff

mind your own business and i'll mind mine

dead dove, don't eat

Comshippers - Comship

A ComShipper is someone who enjoys more complicated or complex ships. These can include "dead dove" content, morally gray, problematic, socially unacceptable, abusive, or toxic dynamics. Comshippers do not endorse these things in the real world, but enjoy them in fiction.

Most comshippers are proshippers, but MOST proshippers are not comship.

Small examples:

Employee x boss

Human x non-human

Age difference but both older

Minor x minor

Non-human x non-human

Selfship

Selfcent

(and much more)

Darkship - Darkshipper

Darkship (also known as problematic ship) is a subcategory of Comship, which covers all types of ships that are considered illegal or immoral.

Small examples:

Minor x adult

Adolescent x adult

Minor x adolescent

Victim x perpetrator

Killer x victim

Animal x human

Family x family

dead x alive

(These are some examples)

(I suffered doing this, there are many pages that give so many different versions)