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Endosex flag
A new flag design for endosex, which acts as a sort of midway design between my perisex flag design and the dyadic flag. [SVG here] Endosex is one of three common terms used to mean not intersex, and was initially coined in German by Heike Bödeker (who is intersex) in 1999. The other common terms are perisex and dyadic.
I've been thinking there's utility in having slightly-different-but-similar meanings for endosex, perisex & dyadic to allow for us to talk about how intersex-ness in nonhumans can be really complex. My survey about what these slightly-different meanings should be is still open, so if you have thoughts about whether a snail with typical sex development should be perisex and not dyadic (or something along those lines), send me your feedback here! 📋️
For comparison: I've put the dyadic flag on the left. Designed by @pride-flags-for-cishets, it uses a square as a contrast to the ring of the intersex flag. And it has blue and pink to indicate the traditional sex dyad/binary. It gets used in designs like the extersex flag.
But for some perisex trans/enby folks, a pink-and-blue flag understandably doesn't sit so well! 🙃 So I designed a perisex flag after a flag design by @clowncaraz inspired me. I'm trying in the perisex flag to illustrate how perisex folks are on the two ends of the two "typical" ways that sex development happens (Wolffian or Müllerian). The filled-in arrows represent Wolffian and Müllerian.
Both the endosex and perisex flags use a dark periwinkle that is both purplish and bluish, a colour that I've been seeing used in other flag designs to indicate not being intersex.
The white in the perisex and endosex flags is used to indicate that biology is not destiny: trans people can take their bodies and put them on a completely different path.
The dyadic flag doesn't have any confirmed colour meanings, so I don't have an obvious meaning for the black in the endosex flag.
I'm thinking I'll wait on the results of the endosex/perisex/dyadic-in-nonhumans survey before assigning a meaning to the black. Same for if the light periwinkle means anything beyond not-intersex like the dark periwinkle does. Expect a follow-up on this in late October / early Nov.
The light periwinkle in the endosex flag is the same one in @clowncaraz's design because it's just a really nice colour that I'm fond of for this purpose, and wanted a way to make use of it. 😁
Tagging for archival: @varsex-pride @radiomogai @liom-archive @beyond-mogai-pride-flags @conformant-archive
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Oh sorry i should've did that before
https://www.tumblr.com/clowncaraz/759657439332352000/gendermars-maermarsmarz-gendermars-is?source=share
Btw your new theme is super cute :)
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Perisex flag ideas: request for feedback
Earlier today I came across this perisex flag design (on the left) by @clowncaraz and was inspired to play with the design a bit. I've got two versions I made (middle, right) that I'd like to share and get feedback on what people prefer! 💜
I liked the cut purple box in clowncaraz's design and got the idea of old-school balancing scales ⚖️ with Wolffian on one side and Müllerian on the other. It also got me thinking of a split arrow design and how every zygote starts out with the same (lack of) sex characteristics.
But the sun in clowncaraz's design admittedly confused me 😅 - I first read it as an Ox or as the top of the Mercury symbol. So I thought I'd iterate and play with the balancing scales/split arrow idea.
Here's my first version:
I darkened the periwinkle and use white for the centre icon to represent all the possibilities one can do with a perisex body. The periwinkle represents being perisex, and is the opposite (180-degree) colour of intersex yellow in okLCH colour space.
Second version:
This is a simplified version of the first - it loses the top middle line. It looks cleaner to me, but I think the theming isn't quite as clear.
Which version do you prefer? Do you have suggestions on how to further iterate the design? Ty! 🩵
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Müllerian and Wolffian Astronomy-Style Symbols
Left: Müllerian - a perisex person whose innate sex development is in line with societal expectations of "biological female". The symbol is a reference to electronics symbology for a female socket. Right: Wolffian - a perisex person whose innate sex development is in line with societal expectations of "biological male". The symbol is a reference to the same electronics symbology, but for a male plug.
Symbols for perisex trans and nonbinary folks: 🏳️⚧️
And symbols for cisgender perisex folks:
It's a happy accident that the cisgender perisex female symbol looks like a stick figure in a dress lol 😂
SVG files available on Wikimedia Commons 💜 Feel free to edit and play with them as desired! 💜
These symbols came out of this thread where I workshopped ideas for a perisex flag. Thanks to everybody who participated, especially @clowncaraz for valuable feedback!
EDIT 2024-10-07 whoops mixed up Wolffian and Mullerian at the top of the original version of the post. 🙃 Thank you to Apollo for bringing that to my attention!
#wolffian#mullerian#müllerian#perisex#endosex#dyadic#gender symbols#sex symbols#astronomy style symbols#trans#trans symbols#perisex trans#nonbinary#cisgender#cisgender symbols
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SPACEHEY and DISCORD -> clowncaraz & clowncary
read my explanation and apology.
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pronouns- she/her
gender- transspecies deity
sex- devifemale
ideology- primalqueer, luffyism, nonhupunk
orientation- autoturian, nesaromantic
animality- holoficty, fableeri, shifter, energy being
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he dreams big, of castles and crowns, without thinking of appeasing the wrong crowd.
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Thank you all for the feedback! I've got two new versions thanks to feedback from @clowncaraz and @scifimagpie
A concern is that the Venus-style arrow and Mars-style arrow are associated with gender, and for some folks it would be productive to decouple sex and gender imagery.
Right now, the proposed gender symbols for Wolffian and Mullerian double down on the Mars/Venus thing. So as an alternative, how about electronics symbols for "female" and "male" connectors:
Which leads to... Version 3!
And new ideas for symbols fol Mullerian and Wollfian:
The result is a little visually unbalanced though. So clowncaraz suggested Version 4:
If anybody know if these suggested sex symbols have already been used for a gender/etc symbol please let me know! Reverse google image search didn't give me much of use.
Perisex flag ideas: request for feedback
Earlier today I came across this perisex flag design (on the left) by @clowncaraz and was inspired to play with the design a bit. I've got two versions I made (middle, right) that I'd like to share and get feedback on what people prefer! 💜
I liked the cut purple box in clowncaraz's design and got the idea of old-school balancing scales ⚖️ with Wolffian on one side and Müllerian on the other. It also got me thinking of a split arrow design and how every zygote starts out with the same (lack of) sex characteristics.
But the sun in clowncaraz's design admittedly confused me 😅 - I first read it as an Ox or as the top of the Mercury symbol. So I thought I'd iterate and play with the balancing scales/split arrow idea.
Here's my first version:
I darkened the periwinkle and use white for the centre icon to represent all the possibilities one can do with a perisex body. The periwinkle represents being perisex, and is the opposite (180-degree) colour of intersex yellow in okLCH colour space.
Second version:
This is a simplified version of the first - it loses the top middle line. It looks cleaner to me, but I think the theming isn't quite as clear.
Which version do you prefer? Do you have suggestions on how to further iterate the design? Ty! 🩵
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