#chat noir disrespect

[baenyth]

Bethany's Bizarre Miraculous Reviews: The New York Special

New York! New York! It's a Fuck of a town! The Bronx is up but the Battery's down! I was spooked by it when I went there in the summer of 2017-ound! New York! New York! It isn't a town!

(It's a city.)

(Also I heard Alya and Nino did a big no-no here so I'll keep my eyes out.)

Oooh! Big new Fancy Opening!

Good introduction, silly stuff with Mr. Pigeon, New suits that I'll talk more about in season 5, etc.

Green typically represents jealousy, Chat. It's good to see you trying to befriend Ladybug instead of flirting with her, though.

Also good ego. It's hard to balance your ego from experience.

And of course Marinette harshly simps for Adrien when it's a detriment to her. Do the salters live in backwards land or something? Chat Noir isn't perfect but he has more respect for Ladybug's boundaries. He doesn't sniff Ladybug's pillow, and I doubt he would even if he knew where she lived.

Sock puppetry lmao

Chloe, shouldn't you be happy about going to New York? You wanted to move there with the Karen that birthed you.

Get disrespected lmao

I love through that sock-filled monologue Marinette implied Lila wasn't their friend. Then again, considering my belief that more of the class is sus of Lila than Marinette,

Yes! Marinette's actually letting go! Or at the very least trying to! Forget what I said earlier. Baby steps, baby steps.

I'm assuming Ladybug's taking the Horse Miraculous with her again like with Startrain. Also the Kitty toy alarm's so cuute!

Dramatic irony lmao "Do you see a supervillain in the house?"

I'm also glad we're getting Luka and Kagami content, even if they aren't going on the trip.

Adrien's dad is coming! And I think he's afraid of flying!

Oh god. This relationship is an agony of cringe. Also quit encouraging it, Alya. Even Rose seems to be for Marinette changing seats and she's an utter romantic.

He is afraid of flying.

Sleep cute. I love it. And the ships too.

Oh no. Alya, Nino, don't do it. Marinette and Adrien are better off as friends. Don't do what I think you're going to do.

He doesn't look that much like a pirate. Aren't supervillains supposed to have more swag than this? Maybe he's just a villain.

Oh yeah. The Miraculous isn't the only magic (in an abstract literary sense) in this verse. There's also superheroes. And all the other Zagtoon shows.

Adrien and Marinette are made for eachother in the same way water and cesium is.

They're really trying to tell me Sabrina is bi and into some guy she just met? I could probably believe the bi part, actually, but only if she uses her love language: acts of service pushed to the extreme.

The mischevious

They're really trying to act as if Sabrina isn't approx. as evil as Chloe and pushing this relationship with what looks like a background character?

Hot Dog superhero whose hot dogs empower others. This is objectively the best superhero I've seen.

Fuck it. I'll take this. There's Julerose in this slow dancing scene. Look on the bright side of life.

Doors! Doors! Doors! Doors!

Oh. So it's the teenaged American heroes suggesting that. Oh. Alya's more innocent than thought. She's still into it, though.

Why is Uncanny Valley's superhero design so white? And just looks like that in general? Sparrow's is cool and practical, though.

There's the piracy! I was looking for that!

Why did Techno Pirate only steal her third eye? She's 100% technology! Oh. He just couldn't.

Ladybug, quit distracting Chat Noir. He fully did not expect this.

Oh. Chat Noir had time, he was just anxious or something. Yeah. I get it now. Ladybug has the right to be pissed.

So it was an accidental killing. And she was only corroded, not dusted.

What is with these assholes? Technolyzer or whatever his name was the one that forced Chat Noir to cataclysm Uncanny Valley, and yet they're blaming Ladybug and Chat Noir?

Reused sewer model

No, Chat, she would've been fine no matter what. The Miraculous Big Bang undoes death. It undoes erasure from existence.

This feels forced. Too forced.

...Is that her civilian model? And at least someone's getting consequences for trying to force Adrienette.

This is a joke. That sopping wet cat breakup is a joke. Marinette's unfaithfulness is a joke. The superheroes under liberation are jokes. Why is Miracalyzer or whatever his name is making someone want to take people's freedoms away? Oh right. We got this much Julerose content in an absolute joke of a special. Cursed irony.

Alright, the orchestral reprise of Chat Noir's transformation was pretty cool, I'll admit. He's back!

Miracolonizer? Is that his name?

So was Adrien's dad just listening to stuff in his room this whole time?

And was this trip that short?

And all the VAs were dehydrated at the time due to production fuckery and a constrained schedule?

So that's what that fic was talking about. It was a Julerose fic as well. Marinette was dating Luka and Adrien was dating Kagami at the time of this special. No mention of polyamory. They were making her cheat. This is Luka disrespect. This is Kagami disrespect. Alya, what the fuck? Also the other plot stuff was just My Hero Academia again, and I hate My Hero Academia.

Edit: So apparently Adrien was told he's going to New York right as he was leaving. So it wasn't his fault.

[cray-cray-anime]

thomas asstruc gives off classism vibes (and much more other bad vibes)

Not only cos of the whole every poor fam got great life/fam while rich kids don't in the show

But like how he will not take criticism from anyone and noone can write better cos they just wouldn't get doing work with "all these editorial constraints" and he's a professional (his words basically)

And honestly bad writing one thing, it another to enforce in your writing shitty things and act shitty to even the slightest criticism no matter how respectful and polite

So yeah I'd honestly suggest not watching, let ratings go down, i could really care less how it can get any worse (or better meaning they wasted like half the seasons)

The show had enough seasons many shows would kill for and crew are killing it but in the bad way

[trinket-o-pawsum]

I cannot be silent about this any longer. Why do the Miraculous Ladybug dolls all look so awful (⁠〒⁠﹏⁠〒⁠) ESPECIALLY Chat Noir??? I am BEGGING for the release of actual figures, ones that look good PLEASE

[ashboy-3]

Miraculous LadyBug Movie and Why I don't Like it

Alright instead of me stalling let’s get right into why I don’t like the Miraculous ladybug movie.

Warning Spoilers ahead!!!!

First let’s start with the obivious that they didn’t let ladybug’s VA sing and instead found someone else to sing for her. Shouldn’t have done that especially when she has a good and wonderful voice.

Second, let’s talk about the songs but also the way the movie was set up. Starting off with song one. The song wasn’t bad and that’s not my problem with the song. My problem with the song has to do with the structure of the movie. The move is supposed to be an origin story for both ladybug and chat noir, but it seems we only get ladybug character development. The song started right by letting us in on ladybug’s character, but it should have jumped to Adrien so we can see what his issue is, but nope all we get is a small scene of him with a cat and suddenly he’s the playful and pun loving chat noir that we all know and love.

That is one of my main issues with the movie (and show) is the fact that we do not get enough character development with Adrien. I am so glad we have that scene. You know the one, the one where Adrien finally stands up to his father, because I’m sorry if everyone likes this Gabriel the facts remain that no matter how much he loves his son he still neglected him. It’s like the show will not let Adrien feel anything unless it’s to do with his feelings for Marinette or ladybug. My proof in this is the two songs that he’s in, in the movie. The first one is fully about his feelings, while the second one ends in him confessing his feelings to ladybug.

It seems to me that the only other time we fully touch on Adrien and his problems with his father is the Christmas special.

Issue two I have with the movie is that to me it doesn’t follow the rules of the universe. So the ending fight between bug, chat, and hawk Chat uses his major power, his cataclysm, but he also uses it again without plagg turning him back and getting a food break. This is just one of the examples I could find, but while I watched the movie I’m pretty confident that I saw more.

Issue three, the orgin story moive does not follow the canon. I know this show goes through a lot, but I expected an orgin story to follow canon. Ladybug and chat noir are not supposed to know who each other are, yet ladybug finds out and at the end and then shows who she is to chat noir or Adrien.

Issue four, if you are not going to follow canon then comit! Do not let them reveal to each other and then cop out on the ending kiss!!! Some of us have been waiting for this for years!!!! But no we can’t have them kiss on screen when they finally know the full truth of each other!

Issue four, How can Hawkmoth just use telekneiss on ladybug’s miraculous? Like I might be an idiot, but that is fully what looked like had happened in the movie.

This is a preference but I hated the ending fight between Hawkmoth and our heroes. I hated it with every fiber in my being. Since it does not follow canon I just can’t accept that this is what happens for their origin story.  It makes me so mad that Hawk moth just stops everything because he learns that chat noir is his son? I just don’t belive that. Maybe it could happen because he’s not so in deep yet, but it’s just not good to me.

Issue five, Marinette having feeling for chat noir. We all know it happens eventually (season five I’m looking at you) but in the show she can barely get a word out to Adrien because she likes him so much. She doesn’t seem to struggle as much in the movie.

How I personally think the movie should have gone is a lot simpler. Keep the musical, it was a really good idea. Let Marinette’s og VA sing for her. Give Adrien some background and let him and Marinette sing back and forth in the opening song so we can see what’s happening on both sides. Have marientte still feel unsure of himself, but also give Adrien a struggle of accepting Plagg and becoming chat noir. Keep Marinette’s duet with Tikki, but Give Adrien and Plagg their own song.

You can keep their partner song if you take out the verse of Marinette falling for Adrien. Have the moive show them both overcoming their struggles and this big battle be them accepting the change they have gone through and then the show can easily pick up on season 1 episode 1.

Show us a more detailed story of Gabriel and Emille. Either give him a song of singing about her, or a backstory duet of the both of them, but remember this is a Gabriel song, not a Hawkmoth song. Keep his song as Hawkmoth because it is really good.

The final battle should have a song as well, of the two finally accepting what they are changing into and how it’s making them better people, along with them maybe fully learning how to fix the mess hawkmoth created (the ending of the movie did this really great, but if you’re going to make a musical then commit!)

Last give an ending song, about how the story isn’t over but it’s just beginning. A good example of this would be The Last Day of Summer from the Percy Jackson Musical. That is a good song that tells you that the story is over for now, but it will continue again in the future.

If you don’t like the musical idea then guess what you can stick with the same concept without the songs! Main thing is making it to where you know the movie can pick up on S1 Ep1 while giving Adrien some actual character development!

Their’s a lot more that I very much dislike about the movie, but unless I put myself through a rewatch of it right away, I’m not going to be able to remember them all. Let me tell you something I liked about the movie.

I loved the animation and thought that it was really good. You can tell that they were given a better budget for the movie and I hope they keep it for the show. If they don’t keep it for the show then maybe the specials they keep releasing on Disney +

I loved Marinette’s character at the beginning and showing how she truly had to go through a few motions to get where she is. I like how at first she wasn’t able to stand up for chole but then she gained the confidence to talk back to her.

I love the songs. I thought that they were all great and gave us awesome visuals, like I said I just think the show is giving Marinette special treatment because she is the main character. Chat noir is not her sidekick he is her partner and thus deserves to have plenty of screen time as well.

Last thing I really like is something I already mentioned, it’s how Adrien stood up to his father. Sorry that I didn’t like many things, but I keep getting my hopes up for this show even when I know I shouldn’t and then things like this happen.

[microwavedmetal]

Characterization-wise, Milkbuns probably think they are watching Miraculous Ladybug #2

[chatxkilluaxnoir]

Another (I know, I am so original, aren’t I?) TMNT Fandom(s) Rant

Author’s Note:

Alright, I had been really, really hesitant to post this, because I honestly feel like I have done too many of these (even though I have only like, done some posts and rb’s on this kind of stuff.  And usually spaced apart too, but whatever), and because some of the stuff I am saying, I see even creators that I like sometimes say, and I don’t want to seem like I am mad and that kind of stuff at them.  Even with creators I like less or I am more neutral towards, I don’t want to seem mad at them or too mean and stuff like that, you know?  

But I came to the decision to just post this.  Largely because I just really feel the need to say this, and because someone I know on here helped me give the courage to go ahead and post this.  Thank you that person a lot btw!

Alright, now that my AN is done and out of the way, let’s get to more of the actual contents of the post itself.  Starting now:

Like, I can not fathom, how people complain about the Rise turtles being nerfed, and will hold up certain fics/comics/whatever and say they love those fics/comics/whatever because they don’t nerf Rise, but usually/most of the time, those same comics or whatever that supposedly nerf Rise, will nerf the other version instead (usually 2012.  Though sometimes other versions like 2003).

So nerfing u hate when it is done to Rise, but other versions, it is a-ok!, to nerf them!  Wow okay, just wow.

And on the topic of Rise being nerfed, I won’t say it never happens, it does.  But I honestly don’t see that much myself.

And I honestly, at this point, I more so see Rise getting so hyped up to (sometimes) ridiculous amounts, than I see them getting nerfed.

Rise are better, stronger, smarter, more amazing and awesome TMNT (and not just in ability/powers/strength/etc., but character and/or etc. too).  They are also more violent and scary when they snap.  And/or could be more scary when they get violent and/or snap.  And I am not saying they couldn’t and/or wouldn’t be so.  But that is REALLY downplaying other versions when you say stuff like that. Like, some of the other versions can be so violent and murderous and completely terrifying when they snap (and/or you just know they would be utterly terrifying if they completely snap) too.  

Moving back to what I was saying before/earlier, not only are they better and everything I say above in the beginning of the last paragraph.  But they can also beat any other version no matter what in anything basically.  Because like, the TMNT Fandom(s) (or at least some parts of it/them) has now became the Shonen fandom where we argue about what, for example, our usually favorite person or group of ours can beat another person or group or whatever.  This coming from someone who actually likes Shonen.  But God, do I find power scaling, and “x can and/or can’t beat x” arguments to very annoying, stupid, and pointless most of the time, and usually just detracting from actually just talking about story, or character, or themes, or/& etc.  And they are just tiring honestly.

Putting the rest under a cut, because this post gets long/is getting long, and some of the stuff below is the stuff that was making me worried about posting this.  So I am putting this under a “read more” cut due to long, and in case people don’t want to read some of the (other) stuff I have to say here.

Seriously, I have literally seen posts and stuff, that basically say and/or imply that Rise are just BETTER than their other versions.

Which in turn, usually puts down both the talents of previous versions (i.e. for example.  And this is just an example really, but it valid in most points.  Leo and/or Raph’s own (innate) talents will be downplayed, and people will act like they don’t have their own talents instead are just the muscle and/or use their (strong) emotions to help them maybe win, in the case of Raph (which, nothing wrong with this actually at all), or Leo isn’t talented and strong in his own right, and only gets all of his skills and strength through hard-work and experience (which, there is nothing wrong with that.  Some of the strongest and best people in the world in their own fields and/or etc., got where they were through mainly/a lot through hard-work and experience (even if some of these people were talented, they almost certainly, most of the time, wouldn't become the best, without actually trying and through hard work and experience).  

And honestly, the amount of downplaying some people do.  Not all, there are people who really respect hard-work and experience in this fandom and/or in general.  And/or they are people that think characters or whatever or even cooler and/or better because they they work hard and/or etc. and become (even more) awesome.  But the amount of people that downplay hard-work, experiences, learning through example, and all that is kind of sad.  

It is like some people only care about (innate) talents (which, I am not saying are’t cool and awesome stuff too, but like, still) and not any of that.  Or, and again basically, don’t think that even people that have (innate) talents still need to you know train and to learn and all that?  You don’t (most of the time) become a master without experience and hard work.  Even if you are talented), which in reality, all the turtles (and Casey, April, Karai, splinter, etc.) are a combination of both talents and hard-work and experiences imo.) and skills and strengths and experiences and even just their general character and personality and development.

And I am just like ?????? to (all) that.

I find all/some of that stuff I mentioned above (esp. the development stuff and/or etc.) funny, considering, saying that kind of stuff/some of that stuff, not only undermines other versions and other versions of characters and their characterization and development, but also (imo) Rise’s characterization and development, because it almost seems like you think they have less flaws as people and stuff than other versions (which, I don’t think actually think is true.  I think all the versions basically have both flaws and strengths as people), and that they don’t go through development/don’t need development/need less development than other versions (which again, I don’t think is true.  I think like other versions, Rise needs and goes through development and goes through their own awesome development like the other versions).  

I  mostly bring up characterization here too, since sometimes (not always), characterization and development can go hand-in-hand.  Anyways yeah, when some of you say this kind of stuff, I wonder if you/they realize that they are also, in a way, kind of undermining Rise’s characterization and development too; along with the other versions.

Back on the whole “Rise is better” thing.

So like, I do see characters like Rise Leo to basically be everything (all the Leos) that has come before him, for example.

Which I love.

However, that doesn’t mean he is better.  He wouldn’t exist, if not for the previous Leos, for the previous versions (and sometimes even current Leos and versions and their characters if you include IDW, which I do) and their characters.

Seriously, it almost seems like, and pardon my language, a pissing race.  Instead of respecting and honoring the other versions, some people (seem to) instead act/talk like Rise are just stronger, most powerful, more skilled, and all around just better in every way (including their actual characters when I say in this like I have said previously and not just powers, skills, and all that).

And this all not even in taking into account genres.  For examples:  2012 is more dramatic and serious, Rise is more comedic and light-heartened (not saying 2012 or Rise can’t be the other.  Or have more genres in them.  They can and do.  I am just talking overall).  Nothing wrong with either of those things.  They are both great though.  But different genres, are also important to take into account when you try to compare the different versions (in all way different ways).  Though, I try not to do that, unless it is more positively/in positive ways.  And because they are all great in their own rights.  I find comparisons a lot of the times (not just with TMNT) to not always be the best thing to do, but that is just imo.

Anyways, that is all I have to say about genres for now (at least, until I can figure out a way to word what I am trying to say there better.  I am still working on that).

Seriously though, I am getting so tired of all this.

I love both 2012 and Rise (and basically most/all the TMNT versions basically) so much; they are both a couple of my favorites.

But this kind of stuff is just getting out of hand.  Imo.

My goodness.

Tagging some people here, because maybe they got more stuff to add, and they have made some good posts/replies/reblogs/etc., about this kind of stuff already, so I am curious on their would-be, maybe input (they don’t have to say or do anything with/about this post at all if they don’t want to ofc).

@000marie198 , @tmnt-obsessed-ace , & @misteria247 

There we go/there are the tags.

Disclaimer:  I tried (and I think succeeded) not to name any certain people, fics, comics, etc., etc., in this post.  I don’t want to cause anyone any trouble or grief here.   

If you don’t want to read this post; either just ignore it, or block one or more of the tags I use in the tags.  Like one of my rants and/or discourse tags.

[cakemousse]

alright unless proven otherwise, i'm going to hc that toxinelle's crush is actually griffe noire

or a “crush who doesn’t think I’m a lame-o”! credits to @2manyfandoms2count for the translation

it's unfortunate... but hear me out

the salters always say that the lovesquare is toxic codependency, imma show you what real toxic codependency really is, on the part of emonette at least

'he's rude as fuck and disrespects her all the time, there's no way emonette would fall for him' while this is true and i would agree under normal circumstances, toxinelle came from a world where she didn't have anyone, no super awesome friends to inspire her everyday, no best friend in life and in death, no mum who is gentle and calm, nothing. she's lonely and has nothing to fall back on, but you know who she can fall back on? griffe noire

even if he does let her fall

he is the only constant she has in her life, at least ever since she got her miraculous. even if it means getting insulted left and right by him, she puts up with him

why? cause if she doesn't she'll truly lose the only thing she has 'going' in her life

and we can see that after she read marinette’s diary about the part where ladybug and chat noir are partners or rather teammates, she looks at griffe noire, as though she’s thinking of being teammates with him. it’s something she wants, and we know it’s something she truly wants by the end of the special

also in this universe, emodrien has a crush on emonette, so what's preventing toxinelle to have a crush on griffe noire?

toxinelle isn’t happy, we can tell when she poured her heart out to ladyfly about everything and then finally about her crush thinking she’s lame all the time, but there isn’t much she can do if she wants her constant to continue be by her side

loneliness really does some fucked up things to a person huh?

the concept’s pretty fitting of a villain don’t you think? 🥲

[familyagrestefanblog]

I can only hope the new Paris special won't force Marinette/ Toxinelle into the role of the "chaotic baddest bitch" for superficial praise and keeping Adrien/ Griffe Noire as nothing but her unconditional support again and the "good" one. Because literally from the way the powers of Ladybug and Chat Noir work that's bullshit and the MUCH weaker story premise character wise.

Toxinelle has no offensive powers. She can be as smart as she wants in this scenario her powers are needed for AFTER the Butterfly akumatized someone to save the city, so she can prevent said saving from happening.

Griffe Noire would be required to first nuke the city so the butterfly can react to something and that means alternative Adrien/ Griffe Noire would - the longer all that went on - have needed to let go of all morality he once had and agree to become the moster of the two so SHE can remain level headed and get the Butterfly from the hero.

That's still alot of pressure and burden on Toxinelle's shoulders, being the one who has to be the light at the end of the tunnel for both of them to get their happy ending in a better world. But for the love of God, Adrien throwing out his humanity and only holding onto her and his dead mother

If this is to be believed:

Is ALOT worse and fitting as the conflict's heart piece.

I can only hope the special will be reasonable enough that Toxinelle will be the lesser evil of ShadyClaw and not waste so much story potential for another round of "Chloé the awful bitch". There is so much more interesting stuff you can do with Marinette than that, especially in the Toxinelle field.

Already as Ladybug Marinette showcases extremely dangerous anti-hero tendencies where she becomes so strategic that everyone involved stops being human beings or mattering in the moment because she needs to get something important done.

Most crucial examples are how Emilie Agreste's dead body was used as a mere inhuman tool by her in "Recreation" to defeat her insane husband, by cataclysming the lift and letting it crash down on Emilie to force Gabriel to stand still. Only though that Marinette then barely gave Gabriel enough time to throw the lift sideways and he only managed to save himself and Emilie from being crushed in the nick of time.

Or you know, all of Marinette's horrifying plan in "Destruction" that put several life in danger by sending Monarque to helpless civilians (even to ANNOY HIM) and Chat Noir was literally turned into a non-human object served on a silver plate to Monarque. He couldn't move an inch like a human is to be expected or even BREATH while Monarque went to grab for his throat while Marinette herself stood save and sound in the back because all she actually thought about in that plan were the Kwamis and herself (not even bringing up how fucked up it was to not even let Chat Noir know that her plan involves him having to possibly live with having cataclysmed a person.)

Everyone else MONARQUE had to keep save in her plan by not being the awful and sadistic monster they thought him to be. Tolerating all kinds of disrespectful bullshit and not using any Second chance or other miraculous powers besides voyage, or for the lols quartering Chat Noir's statue for example in a second's notice.

Marinette's plan in "Destruction" was horrifying and impossibly irresponsible in how she instinctively dehumanized everyone but herself and the Kwamis in it without noticing it and 100% relied on MONARQUE to be a decent and reasonable enough person underneath so she could get away with the insane endangerment and dehumanization of everyone but herself (especially Chat Noir).

Her final battle with Monarque had Marinette come back to this questionable morality when she pulled a low-blow anti hero move by dragging the dead spouse of the villain further into the fight, and risking to take any human dignity away from Emilie's remainings - who never wanted any of this being done in her name - by making it GABRIEL'S job to save and preserve her from Bug Noire.

Marinette 100% has some serious anti-hero tendencies in how she dehumanizes people sometimes as side-effect of her strategic mind and when she's either to caught up in her head or she thinks her goal justifies the means.

Jfc, quit the bullshit and let Toxinelle be the escalation of that side of Marinette because she and Adrien know their identities this time around - truly THEM against the world - and she's stuck in a position where Adrien was forced to let go of his humanity and other emotional attachments for their cause, is way too far gone by now and she has to make sure they actually win so all of this wasn't for nothing.

Give me a Marinette/ Toxinelle who made it out of her having been bullied alot worse and that's how she got into this, but by now she deep down fully regrets ever having started this and wished with every inch of her heart she could stop

but she knows she herself already hardly could live with herself after all this so she would never ask Adrien/ Griffe Noire to let go of the only hope he has at this point and live with the fact that he became an actual monster to preserve HER humanity, so she can save them both with the wish.

A Toxinelle who believes they already went too far to possibly go back and because of that she detaches herself from morality in the way it happened in "Recreation" with Emilie because in her (and Adrien's) mind they only have to win and everything will be okay again.

Adrien won't be a monster anymore and will return all together to the boy she once loved - and only still behaves like around Marinette or while thinking of his mother - and Paris, it's citizens, the entire world and THEMSELVES wont remember anymore what happened or that Toxinelle and Griffe Noire ever did any of this to them.

Give me TAHT Marinette/ Toxinelle please. For the love of GOD.

[mlb-a-rewrite]

Master Fu and Adrien

In this rewrite I make Fu a much more flawed character and we see that immediately in his relationship with Adrien.

Fu already has relationships with Adrien and Marinette prior to distributing the ladybug and black cat miraculous. He tutors Marinette and teaches Adrien Mandarin. He's been Adrien's teacher for a few years now.

Fu is preparing to give Adrien the black cat miraculous when the first ever akumatized villain attacks. Before Fu can speak to Adrien about what is happening, Adrien is grabbed by Gorilla and rushed out of Fu's store where the lessons take place but Fu manages to slip the miraculous into Adrien's bag before he leaves.

Adrien later finds the miraculous, transforming into Chat Noir and etcetera etcetera. Fu never tries to talk to Adrien about the miraculous despite still teaching the kid Mandarin. Adrien/Chat Noir doesn't even know that a guardian exists.

Eventually the Mandarin lessons stop and Adrien stops seeing Fu entirely. Hawkmoth starts akumatizing people at increasing rates, leaving Chat Noir and Ladybug completely swamped with responsibilities. In this time, Chat Noir/Adrien finds out that Marinette is training with someone called "The Guardian". Through context clues, Adrien realizes that The Guardian is basically a wise old man training Ladybug in the ways of the miraculous.

Chat Noir asks Ladybug about this, about how often she meets him and what she is learning. You can tell he is feeling left out. Eventually he asks Ladybug is he can train to become a guardian too, but when she returns after asking the guardian she informs him that Chat Noir is not welcome. He asks why and she says the guardian never gave a reason.

But I know the reason because I am writing the story.

Fu is a man who is set in tradition. He was basically indoctrinated into a cult when he was child, the cult being The Guardians, and had ideas ingrained into him that cannot be erased. When Fu sees Adrien/Chat Noir, he sees someone who is immature and reckless. Adrien doesn't exhibit traditional leadership skills and so Fu doesn't want to train him to be a guardian.

Fu never has a chance to reveal his identity as guardian to Chat/Adrien until Fu is forced to help in battle and Chat is like who da fuc is dis guy and then Fu dies.

After Fu's death, Adrien realizes just how much of a douche bag the guy was. While he was alive, he was placing forcing Ladybug to live up to insane expectations that made her question everything. This pressure was only furthered after his death. Adrien watched as Ladybug blamed herself for everything that went wrong in the wake of Fu's death. He watched as she tore herself apart over this crochety old man.

It was in watching Ladybug that Adrien was grateful he was never trained by the man. He never views Master Fu with the same respect Ladybug does and this disrespect is ultimately what saves Ladybug from herself.

[airi-p4]

It should have been me!

Hi! I wrote this short Adrien salt + Lukanette endgame fic a while ago. Enjoy?

Summary

Ladybug was mad, ENRAGED. 

Yet- how come Chat Noir was the one akumatized instead, when everything was HIS FAULT? It should be her!

AO3

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This was so wrong!!

She should have been akumatized instead of him!

He was the one who deceived her! 

And now Chat noir- Chat Blanc- was walking around trying to destroy her. And she, Ladybug, ran, jumping on the roofs of the Parisian buildings, and dodging destructive waves aiming for her.

So unfair!

___

It all started when Chat Noir finally stopped his flirting. 

"I understand you're not comfortable, so I'll stop. Besides, I'm in love with someone else now," he had said. 

Ladybug was grateful. Really grateful. He finally seemed to take his job seriously and their teamwork improved. It was nice to see that he changed.

Now, she didn't have to roll her eyes at unsolicited advances or for not going on dates she never agreed to. Everything stood professional. 

Until that night. 

All because she had let her guard down and allowed her excited Marinette self say too much. How could she have imagined that…

"You look happy tonight, Ladybug" Chat Noir hummed. "Did something good happen?"

"Yes. Very good" she smiled widely. 

"Oh? What is it?"

"I don't know if I should tell you, but I'm so excited and-"

"Oh?" He smiled and leaned his head to the side, showing curiosity. He imagined that she may have been accepted to her dream university as she mentioned before, but he was eager for her to tell him. 

Until he actually heard it. It wasn’t what he had expected.

"I have a boyfriend," she confessed. "We've been close friends for a long time and I still can't believe we feel the same! He's amazing and the most caring boy I've ever met. I’m so happy! I love him very much!" She squealed.

And that's what unleashed the storm.

"No!" Chat Noir stood up aggressively. "You can't have a boyfriend! You're supposed to be with ME! We're meant for each other! I even restrained myself from telling you how much I love you or to kiss you because I know you like gentlemen and- you were supposed to fall for me! I worked so hard to impress you and try to get your attention!"

“What…?” She couldn't register what he was saying immediately, but when she did she couldn’t help but feel betrayed. "Are you saying… That everything until now was an act…? You were just pretending? I trusted you!"

The betrayal was too much to bear. And yet- he was the one getting akumatized? Again. For his selfishness and for not listening to her, as usual.

She was enraged. Hell! She should have been the akuma, not him!

But now - She needed help. All the help she could get.

The fox, the turtle, the ox, the mouse, the dog, the dragon, the snake, the rabbit...

And after a few second chances, they finally defeated the akuma and a purified butterfly flew away. Magical ladybugs did the rest to fix the massive damage caused by Chat Blanc- Chat Noir-, Paris’ former superhero after the events. 

"No… M'lady…" he begged, but he could only watch as she walked away, leaving a trail of tears as she left Adrien Agreste sobbing on his own.

___

"I can't believe it!" Marinette cried, secure in her boyfriend's arms. "All this time-! I thought he was finally maturing, becoming more professional- I really trusted him!"

Luka hummed and rubbed her back. He did wonders calming her down. How many times could have she been akumatized if it wasn't for him?

"And he was Adrien all this time… I can't believe I was so blind! I thought he was sweet, innocent and caring… I even called him perfect a few times, damn it!" She yelled in Luka's chest. "But no! He is none of those things! He's just selfish, disrespectful and irresponsible! I thought we were partners! I thought he would be happy for me when I told him about you!" She groaned. "Hell- he even congratulated us when I had the mask off! You figured out my identity on your own, without magic, just because you care about me…" she took a moment to look at Luka, her hand cupping his face softly and he hummed happily at the contact. She let her hands descend to his chest level, gripping his jacket, and sighed. "Chat, on the other hand, couldn't tell us apart despite his claims of being 'in love'. Ugh, what a joke…"

"You couldn't have known. You did the best you could, melody" Luka kept caressing her back in support. 

"And he still got akumatized!" Marinette roared. "He completely betrayed my trust, Paris’ trust, our partnership! And still got offended because I have a boyfriend that makes me happy! Heck- I really should have been the one akumatized, not him!"

"Don't say that… I don't want you to get akumatized... Ever" 

"I know…" She softened a bit at that. "But I'm so mad, Luka! I want to scream, to curse, to set a freaking dumpster on fire!" He groaned. "Maybe with a bit of luck his photos that used to be in my room are still there and I can kill two birds with one stone!"  

That made Luka giggle. "Didn't you throw them out a long time ago?"

"I did! And I made sure not a single one of them remained! But now I wish there were still some so I could burn them to ashes!" She growled.

"You're funny even when you're rightfully angry," Luka laughed.

"I am rightfully angry! Very rightfully!" She pouted proudly and he chuckled. Cute. A moment later she blushed happily when he kissed her cheek.

"What are you going to do now? With the ring, I mean" he asked.

"I need to talk to Plagg first. Figure things out. And then, I think I'm going to keep the ring inside the box"

"Are you sure?"

"Well, I hope I can count on you if it ever becomes indispensable." She leaned in to give her boyfriend a kiss on his cheek.

"You can always count on me, Marinette. You know that" he smiled tenderly. "Especially if you ask me like this" 

He leaned in to kiss her cheek and she giggled. Music to his ears. 

"Thank you, Luka. I love you. You're the best boyfriend I could ever ask for. I'm so lucky" She kissed his lips, making herself comfortable in his lap. 

Fin

[ladyofthenoodle]

saw people on twt complain that the chat noir build a bear is less expensive than the ladybug one and acting like it’s some sort of disrespect to chat noir and literally i cannot with adrien stans clinging to this victim complex. the reason the ladybug one costs more is that it’s a CUSTOM bear and the chat noir one is a standard bear in a chat noir outfit. it’s the price of marinette dupain cheng vs wayhem in cosplay

if you look at the base bears, you can see the ladybug bear is worth $10 more than the standard bear

but wait! you say. the ladybug bear is only $7.50 more than the chat noir bear, even though her special base bear is $10 more expensive. and you’re right! that is because the chat noir OUTFIT is actually $2 more expensive

so, if you do the math, you can easily see that build a bear is trying to fuck you over and you should buy the bears and the outfits separately. sorry, what was my point again?

[baenyth]

Bethany's Bizarre Miraculous Reviews Episode 5-17: The Dog Miraculous: Lesbians!

Oh boy! A Sabrina episode! I love Sabrina! She's both an accomplished and disaster lesbian! #1 at getting into toxic yuri! Let's go!

Wait, is this going to be another Adrienette episode?

Wait! No! This is the gay Zoe episode!

Mayor Andre is the epitome of that dick flattening meme.

Actually, Zoe being a year younger than everyone else makes a lot of things add up.

Yep, here comes the secondhand embarrassment!

Almost forgot. It's neat the Emile Agreste movie was originally a love story. It's a shame it was for Audrey, though.

Nice to the waiter

Our Swamp

Trying to get rid of Chloe's redeeming qualities, are we?

Nerd

Even the Gorilla is joining in on dinner!

The sudden shift sdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdf

Get blackmail'd

"Sabrina, the police force is corrupt. Your father once helped Waluigi racially profile Dupain-Cheng's mother."

Trying to get rid of Chloe's redeeming qualities, are we?

Wait, does Chloe command Sabrina with a whistle or something?

"Your plan is lame and ridiculous! We just lost our double bottom! What will we do now?"

Monarch @ Kaalki:

Lila the teenage witch

Zoe looks like her eye's going to twitch. I dunno. Something feels wrong about her.

Dramatic Irony^2

I know this is just a way for us to see Vanisher, but it feels weird for her to have Chameleo Arm levels of invisibility. Then again this show is a sea of morons.

This is a worse version of the plan Lila used to get Marinette expelled. There have been invisible akumas before. I swear, if people believe her...

!#$&*!^*&(^%!#*(^$ AGAIN!?

Spin the yoyo all around! Do an AoE attack!

She didn't even say it.

Finally! Gabriel Agreste did something good for once!

When I realized what was going to happen, I was going to say that they should confirm Rose and Juleka and Marc and Nathaniel as well. But she didn't even say it. It was blatant, but this show is so hesitant to say these characters are gay. Just say it. Say it. Say it. The homophobic foreign dubs can eat shit all I care.

[pearl484-blog]

A twisted Fairytale

Marinette once thought that dating Adrien Agreste was like a fairytale, but now it's become dark.

Part 3 of the death of Adrien Agreste

Ao3 link

my entry for day 12: fairytale

Being with Adrien was like living a fairytale. He was sweet and kind and patient. He didn't mind gove her space when she needed it snd support when she didn't. He worked around all her problems, which Marinette knew she had many. He was beautiful, sexy, and perfect.

The only problem was his control freak of a father. Except, he was worse than a cranky, CEO. HE WAS HAWKMOTH. It shouldn't have felt as good as it did to beat the snot out of her boyfriend's father, but with each hit, Marinette thought of London, and Adrien, and all the akumas he'd unleashed. It felt good , giving into that anger, that rage.

Then, she remembered Chat Noir. Sweet, silly Chat Noir, who'd never hurt a fly. He'd never approve of Ladybug acting like that, giving into her rage. So Ladybug stepped back and gave Gabriel the chance to do the right thing. Gabriel decided to venom her and make the wish so he could die.

Looking back, Marinette could understand why. If Gabriel hadn't done that, Nathalie would've died too, and Adrien would've been forced to move to London regardless. In a way, Gabriel was trying to make up for everything he'd done by letting Adrien stay in Paris with her.

Then, Gabriel had requested that Marinette let Adrien remember the good things he'd done, and Gabriel had done good things, especially before...

Well, that was in the past. Now, Marinette was going to help Adrien remember the good things, like all the compliments he'd paid to Adrien, or the breakfasts he'd made for him, and...well, Marinette wasn't sure what elde there was, but Gabriel wasn't her dad. Even though he'd been strict, Adrien had loved him and Marinette wasn't going to take that away from him.

Besides, Gabriel was dead. What good would come from telling everyone that Adrien’s dad was Hawkmoth?

Ladybug had enough experience with bad press to know what would happen. People would all line up, looking for someone to blame, and they'd twist Ladybug’s words to hurt her sweet Adrien, who hadn't done anything wrong.

Ladybug couldn't tell anyone that Gabriel was Hawkmoth. Not without disrespecting his last request, but she couldn't let Adrien believe that Gabriel was missing either. Dhe knew how much his mother going missing had hurt him. No, Adrien had to know that Gabriel was dead...even though the Miraculous Ladybug should've resurrected him.

So, Marinette told another eensy weensy lie. That Gabriel had sacrificed himself to stop Hawkmoth. It was the only way that Ladybug could see to explain his death without ruining everything.

That was, until Adrien found out the truth. Not only did he find out that Gabriel was Hawkmoth, but also that he was a senti-monster. Marinette had never wanted that. She knew how badly that had messed up Felix. Who knew what it would do to her sweet Adrien?

Besides, Felix was currently the one with the Peacock, and while Marinette didn't trust him, she didn't want to take the Peacock away from the poor guy either, especially since he knew her secret identity. Anyways, from what she knew about Adrien and Felix, they didn't get along as much as they should, and there'd almost certainly be a fight once Adrien realized the cousin he didnt trust held his life in his hands.

Except, Adrien hadn't broken down like Marinette had expected. Instead Adrien had come back and did the interview. Marinette had begged him not to. She'd pleaded for him to delay it, just for a little, until Marinette could confirm it with Felix, but Adrien wasn’t having it.

It didn't matter how crazy it sounded or how much it contradicted what Felix had told her, Adrien had enough proof for himself. So he'd conducted the interviews, and threw Marinette under the bus.

Then, as if to make it worse, after the interview, he'd started pulling away, giving her the silent treatment or making little comments behind her back. Sometimes, he'd even stay the night at Nino's without telling her.

Then, he went to the funeral. Without her, but with Nino and Chloe.

Marinette didnt know what happened next, but she only remembered lying on the bed drunkenly clutching her bottle of wine as she cried into her phone, asking Alya where it all went wrong.

[iwasbored777]

Pls don't take this the wrong way I'm not one of the "Adrien is a sexual harasser" salters nor Adrien salter in the first place (you know me), but I think his experience with Ladybug was beneficial to his patience with Marinette because in some episodes like Glaciator 2 and such Ladybug was angry with him asking her to kiss him and later when he saw that it doesn't work he decided to change his method and be more of gentleman.

And in Kuro Neko he saw how much Ladybug likes respectful guys and him realizing that she cares about Chat Noir wasn't the only thing he learned here.

Ironically, the two episodes that are widely hated were crucial for his character development and not just for his identity crisis but for his later relationship too (which is something I don't see mentioned that much, everyone's only talking about the identity part). And now when he is going out with Marinette, who needs time and time before she feels comfortable with him, he knew what to do and how to behave around her because he learned.

In Glaciator 2 he could notice that the pressure of public is what angered Ladybug too and now with Marinette he knows that this is most definitely what's upsetting her. And he was right, they were happier alone than with everyone watching (who WOULD be happy with everyone watching?).

And it also helped Marinette fall for Chat Noir too, remember when she confirmed why she didn't want to give him a chance earlier.

(Pls don't hate her either for saying this, she was trying real hard to be good enough for Adrien too, they both did but this a story for another time)

Not that Adrien's behaviour was extremely disrespectful earlier but it did anger a person he tried to impress and it took him time but he learned how to improve himself. He wasn't problematic, I don't mean that, but he learned how to be more respectful and when it comes to love you need to respect your crush's boundaries and give them space especially if they request for it. Marinette has shown to love gentlemen since forever. She's a hopeless romantic. And Adrien really worked hard to make himself as good for her as he could. That's truly beautiful.

[ninadove]

Miraculous Masterpost

Because I did not expect to write about this series as much as I did, so now my Random Ramblings Masterpost looks like a never-ending shopping list, and we can’t have that.

Generic 🦋

Miraculous’ philosophy of consent: all’s fair in love and plot [S5 E19]

A word on show-don’t-tell (Get it? A word? On show-don’t-tell? I’ll see myself out —) [S5 E18]

London Callin’ (Maybe) (We’re not sure) [S5 E24]

The Shadow Weaver-ification of Gabriel Agreste — Part 1 [S5 E26]

The Shadow Weaver-ification of Gabriel Agreste — Part 2 [S5 E26]

The Shadow Weaver-ification of Gabriel Agreste — Part 3 [S5 E26]

I love the Sentimonster Theory Canon and you can pry out of my cold, dead hands [S5 E26]

Felix Graham de Vanily / Argos 🦚

"Duusu, spread my feathers!" — A queer reading of the Sentimonster theory [S4 E26]

Felix is a little b*tch (affectionate) [S4 E26]

Taking risks in Strikeback (Get it? Risk? Strikeback?) [S4 E26]

On the beef between Felix and Chloé [S5 E18]

Felix’s masterplan was brilliant, actually [S5 E18]

Leave my fucking child alone — Part I: "There’s only one thing worse than Gabriel —" [S5 E18]

Leave my fucking child alone — Part II: A very chill rant about Adrien’s amok [S5 E18]

Reminder that yes, Colt SUCKS, but he’s not the only one [S5 E24]

On cracked rings and broken chains [S5 E24]

Surviving child abuse through humour [S5 E24]

Badass in the arena [S5 E24]

TRANSMASC. FELIX. PROPAGANDA. [S5 E24]

Plushie Parallels [S5 E24]

Felix is a ray of fucking sunshine [S5 E24]

On Felix’s wish [S5 E26]

Kagami Tsurugi / Ryuko 🐉

To wear one’s heart on one’s sleeve [S5 E18]

Cutting off contact(s) [S5 E19]

Thinking about Kagami Tsurugi ❤️ [S5 E24]

On Kagami and the cousins’ silly antics [S5 E26]

Feligami 🦚🐉

On Feligami and the (absence of) masks [S5 E18]

Beware of first impressions [S5 E18]

Feligami Fastburn my beloved [S5 E19]

Feligami Flexes [S5 E19]

It’s the way they hold hands, your honour [S5 E19]

Some Ship Bingo Ramblings [S5 E19]

Incoherent screaming over Kagami’s amok [S5 E19]

Feligami / Gabemilie parallels [S5 E19]

Pretension 🥺💜❤️ [S5 E19]

The quickest prison break ever [S5 E24]

You come to MY post, you disrespect MY blorbos — [S5 E24]

A word on jealousy [S5 E24]

Finding beauty in the monstruous [S5 E24]

Feligami’s couple cosplays [S5 E24]

A word on monsters [S5 E24]

Feligami Writing Guide [S5 E24]

From queer neurodivergent child abuse survivors to lovers [S5 E24]

Draw me like one of your British boys [S5 E26]

Felix doesn’t get the monopoly of the heart eyes [S5 E26]

On defying the narrative [S5 E24]

Ryukomori x Argos… Argomori? [S5 E24]

*Fireflies from Owl City starts playing* [S5 E26]

Beauty and the Beast AU

Felix’s fanfictions

Coup de foudre

Adrien Agreste / Chat Noir 🐈‍⬛

Remember kids: necromancy bad — [S5 E26]

On the S6 Redesigns Dread™ [S5 E26]

Graham de Family 💍

Flairmidable’s formidable costume [S4 E26]

Transmasc Felix Propaganda [S5 E18]

The Senticousins Agenda — Part I: NEWSFLASH, ASSHOLES!!!!! Felix has cared about Adrien the entire goddamn time [S5 E24]

The Senticousins Agenda — Part II: The Path to Isolation [S5 E24]

The Senticousins Agenda — Part III: L’Enfer est pavé de bonnes intentions [S5 E24]

The Senticousins Agenda — Part IV: Sun and rain [S5 E24]

The Senticousins Agenda — Part V: Sun and moon [S5 E24]

The Senticousins Agenda — Part VI: Mirror, mirror [S5 E24]

The Senticousins Agenda — Part V: First draft [S5 E24]

The Senticousins Agenda — Part VI: Everything I did… [S5 E24]

#LetAmelieStabABitch2023 [S5 E24]

On Felix, Emilie and Solitude [S5 E24]

On Felix, Emilie and loneliness [S5 E24]

All I’m saying is, Emilie should have been a lesbian [S5 E24]

Some thoughts on Sentisouls [S5 E24]

Adrien is a disappointment to his entire lineage (and we love him for it) [S5 E24]

Hands again! [S5 E24]

Let’s play Animal Crossing: Happy Home Paradise! [S5 E26]

A word on accents and guillotines (with a title like that how can you NOT want to click)

Aroace Adrien and Demiromantic Felix propaganda

Marinette Dupain Cheng / Ladybug 🐞

Do NOT talk shit about Marinette [S5 E26]

In defense of Ladybug’s suit [Miraculous World: Tales of Shadybug and Claw Noir]

Love Square ❤️

Queer coding! Queer coding everywhere!

Chloé Bourgeois / Queen Bee 🐝

Can a bee change her stripes? [S5 E18]

That one time I accidentally made myself a Chlolila shipper [S5 E22]

Master Fu 🗝️

Ah yes, the good old cycle of abuse and neglect

Lukadrien 🐈‍⬛🐍

A word on… Swear words

[rayraygo1267]

what are your productions for nathalie and gabriel in the miraculous shadybug and claw noir special??what do you think they will be like in this other universe??

Gabenath-Miraculous World Edition-Headcanons

Note: These are more just predictions but whatever

Gabriel and Nathalie are married (or at least in a relationship)

Gabriel and Nathalie are both two of the main hero’s who fight against Shadybug and Claw Noir

Adrien resents Gabriel and Nathalie’s relationship and feels as though Nathalie is some sort of home-wrecker between Gabriel and Emilie’s relationship

Nathalie is going to be a lot more hostile (in general) and less caring (towards Adrien specifically) in this universe

Gabriel is actually going to be a decent father to Adrien but Adrien will disrespect him

(I don’t actually think this is going to happen but it’s a cool thought) Gabriel and Nathalie won’t know one another’s hero identities (just like Ladybug and Chat Noir) but will still fall for one another regardless

The Agreste’s won’t be rich, either that or Nathalie will be the successful one who is making all the money (maybe Gabriel is even her assistant)

Gabriel will actually treat the kwami’s with respect

Gabriel will dote on Nathalie as much as he can and Nathalie will be cold towards him (though I like the possibility of them just generally being deeply in love and all over each other)

Nathalie will be more controlling of Gabriel (just like he usually is to her in the regular series)

We’ll finally get to see Nathalie with her hair down

Nathalie will wear more dresses and fancier clothes

Gabriel will actually know how to cook (rip Gabriel’s shitty ass pancakes)

Nathalie and Gabriel will have nicknames for each other (like how Chat Noir calls Ladybug m’lady or bugaboo)

We’ll get to see Gabriel and Nathalie kiss at least once