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huginsmemory · 9 months ago
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Even with TBOB and thisisnotawebsite.com there's... Still so much we don't know about Bill. Like ok yeah he's given a tragic background, we know a bit more about his henchmaniacs, but we really don't know a lot. Like, what happened directly after he accidentally destroyed his dimension? It isn't said. Sure time baby KNOWS about Bill's destruction of his dimension, but it seems like he didn't show up after Bill's dimension was destroyed to apprehend him because he only knows about Bill after Bill tries to make a deal with him, causing Bill's wanted poster. And how did Bill become basically the overlord of the nightmare realm, and gather all his henchmaniacs? Like there's a good period where we just don't know. And it's implied he's shocked and horrified (likely even dissociates, since he does that) after he destroys his dimension. But his characterization doesn't seem by that point to be one that immediately goes into a self-destructive, violent god-becoming maniacal spiral of self hatred; it's more one to be overwhelmed with grief and spend a good long time in the midst of his grief, then necessarily he's about to DO anything. And generally speaking trope wise, there's steps missing; typically in this sort of scenario, the usual progression is this:
characterized as monster due to being different in some way
tries to prove their not
ends up hurting someone anyways
gets further villainized, and antagonized by others
Acceptance of being a monster, and goes okay? You wanted a monster? I'll be a monster.
Now this fits Bill's early life, up to number 4, but we don't know what happens immediately after. It's possible he just went into his spiral immediately after, but it feels wrong, because it is missing the part of someone further villainizing him beyond himself which causes him to lash out due to the expectation (and internalized) idea that he would cause harm. I'd assume maybe some kind of interdimensional authority showed up and accused him of purposely trying to kill his dimension, which triggered his "okay, then I'll be a monster", or even a situation where his 'monstrosity' through the badge of killing his dimension is garners him respect. Considering that his henchmaniacs are chosen out of monstrosity and violence as a badge of honor, it feels very much like this would make sense, except none of them really know about Bill's dimension. He doesn't brag about the violence of it; he only calls it a liberation, contrary to the idea that Bill ever used it to gain clout. Instead, it's more likely that an interdimensional authority showed up and accused Bill, except from circumstances, it doesn't seem like it was Time Baby, so not sure who it would be... but at the same time, that expectation is often required for the character to truly embrace their 'monstrosity' and become truly violent. Or perhaps it was delayed after the destruction of his dimension, later when he begins to run with his henchmaniacs and disregards the law, but that also doesn't feel satisfactory for character development. Or perhaps I'm just overthinking this trope...
Also, how did he have his powers? Some is clearly stuff he's always had; pyrokinesis from that one rhyme, the ability to see into 3d, and he was somehow able to destroy his dimension by whatever he did to let Euclydians see the stars (telekinesis?), but beyond that? Was he always all-seeing? How did he become a 'dream demon'? Are his deals actually binding or does he lie? Are these things that he acquired later, because Euclydians seem to be written about as if they usually don't have any of these abilities, nor the abilities Bill is known to have when young, nor did Bill seem to be able to be all seeing when he was younger. Plus, how was Bill able to survive the destruction of his dimension, if he's technically made of the same stuff as everyone else, who all seems to have a physical form? Why then does he seems to be characterized as a being made of pure energy and thought; is that just in Earth's dimension, or does he have a physical form within the nightmare realm? There's multiple things that are contradictory about his body (mouth-eye, yet talked about removing his exoskeleton to feed--not sure exactly when this was mentioned--plus his mouth located under his bricks and bowtie in his exoskeleton in journal 3). But he seems so thrilled by his physical form though on earth, and we know that physical forms exist within the Nightmare realm as Ford was in it... yet it seems like hes characterized to have no physical form, so did he perhaps lose his physical form when his dimension died? Did he technically die with them too, but with his powers was able to survive essentially as a ghost like he tells Dipper you become without a body?
#hugin rambles#hugin rambles gf#bill cipher#the book of bill#tbob spoilers#thisisnotawebsitedotcom#gravity falls#gravity falls meta#bill ci the triangle guy#theres so many questions and i get part of it is just not explained and likelye never will be and thats also FUN to play with#but its also super curious because there is a v large time where you DONT know a pivotal part of Bill's existence. like he presumably also#dated a howling void? when does that fit in or is it another bit?#but like... the implications about his power and his form and euclydia burning. like fuck#also putting my chips on he was accused directly after and escaped the authorities. and has been chased since and he was like well okay ill#be fucking monster then actively#although it is an interesting thought experiment if it was slowly over time it snowballed into him having a god-complex#also like LOVE getting into how magic works. like okay tell me the technical details. fanfics which go into this i devour with delight#is he an actual demon or it is it just classed as he makes deals? are these deals binding? is it also something that then peovides hik with#power in that sense? oughhh so many good questions.#trying not to feel like Ford excitedly pulling out a clipboard to record all my theories and failing whoops#also like im aware parts of this will be not accurate and perfectly smooth for Bill's powers and char development because its always been#predicated on whats funnier rather then it being a self-formed idea fully fleshed at the beginning of the series
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haveyouheardthisband · 2 years ago
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how do you decide what to change your profile picture to
us mods rotate on picking an album each of us likes :) --rottel
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hath-e · 9 months ago
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Idk I think if we put UC 105 Hathaway in the same room as UC 93 Char, he would feel Hathaway's newtype abilities and try to get him on his side while Hathaway would be using said newtype abilities to calculate the best way to both gouge Char's eyes out and to strangle him in the same motion.
*Char getting a Newtype flash* "ah so you despise the federation and want to heal the earth"
*Hathaway getting a Newtype flash*
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Can I get some expert opinions on this?
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helioptilie · 9 months ago
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wait Furiosa was really good actually, why did it flop?
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odukora-ramblez · 1 month ago
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Mfs will call Cimble and Sparklyn/Cerulean (Cerulyn?) Straight Baitâ„¢ but alas their bond is a kind of concoction beyond your wildest imaginations
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strangemeatpie · 5 months ago
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gundam journey update. i watched cca recently and it kinda made me feel crazy. char was going to kill like a billion people partially just for amuro's attention
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armentas · 2 months ago
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I think I've realized the reason why my other characters aren't as interesting as my Prodigal characters (which causes me to be more interested in working on Prodigal even though Haven is still technically my "main" project): Prodigal is the only fantasy. I've had this (maybe true?) idea that I can get away with writing extremely fucked up people in that one because 1. it's naturally divorced from reality and 2. there's enough interesting physical plot stuff going on that it doesn't matter if you don't agree with them, you still want to see what they're up to—but this doesn't track for a coming-of-age. There aren't life or death stakes, it's emotional stakes dependent on you being emotionally invested in the character, who should probably act like someone you met on the street because this is closer to Real Life, which in turn makes me go "especially fucked up behavior/decisions should be kept to a minimum". Heather is probably my most flawed and messed up character in a story taking place more or less in "our" world, but even then I constantly feel limited, and it's worst with Beau. Like, I would hope no one would be insane and A-Okay with Beau killing himself in the future just because he had some especially terrible moments, but you really can't predict this kind of thing with people. And it doesn't always feel worth risking the entire emotional impact, and therefore the entire success of the project itself.
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autumnoficarus · 2 years ago
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i can't stop listening to the 'purpose is glorious' track from this season's ost and thinking about how lovely the title and its meaning are. it's just such an amazing underlying theme in this show, and - while i do have criticisms about some of the choices made for the series finale - i really do feel the writers wholeheartedly delivered in sending that message home. for me personally, loki's ending is so gratifying and a large part of that is solely from viewing their arc's conclusion with the perspective of this theme in mind. to have spent years watching this character i hold very dear to my heart struggle to find belonging, to feel as though they matter and there is reason in their existence, finally get a chance to show - and recognize - their worth was so, so rewarding. and honestly, i think the message behind the phrasing of 'purpose is glorious' is all the more meaningful because of how loki's arc finished. yes, the outcome was bittersweet; yes, we're left knowing loki didn't get the happiness they undeniably earned after everything they'd gone through. it smarts something fierce to know their journey up until they deviated from their timeline and became a variant, as well as seen their eventual intended fate. the ache is only worsened after witnessing everything that happens within the TVA and the entirety of loki's character growth leading up to a redefining moment where they willingly choose to undergo a nightmarish amount of time in the endeavor to do the right thing. of course we want them to emerge victorious when they've struggled for so long, but that's not the point. loki's final moments are them forfeiting their right to a happy ending to preserve the stories of others because all stories matter and should inherently reserve the free will to be written; as sylvie says, loki makes their choice so their loved ones and life across the multiverse still have a chance to belong somewhere and embrace their place in the world. the take away is that even burden can be glorious. even with all the hardships of life - all the inevitable heartache, disappointment, and grief we encounter just by being alive - we have meaning in our existence. there is meaning in the trials we face, and the suffering we endure in order to overcome them. our pain gives us purpose; it gives us the ability to love, to grow from and for each other, and choose to sacrifice our happiness for the benefit of another. loki's purpose was forged in the bonds of those they met in their time at the TVA and the sense of value they gained from their companionship. their sacrifice perfectly conveys how the human capacity to love is one of cosmic greatness, which can ultimately surpass our instinctual desire to preserve one's self. we can move immovable mountains and challenge insurmountable adversity in behalf of the ones we love and their welfare. if that isn't an act deserving of glory, I don't know what is.
tldr; loki's purpose is the friends they made along the way = as the saying goes, 'tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all'. or: our own lives have purpose because of the connections we share with others, even when we are met with great loss.
#also this just shows the depth of love loki derived from knowing mobius and how they were changed for the better because of it#how mobius' initial - and repeated - acknowledgement of their potential is what gave them the necessary tools to rewrite their destiny#when loki first watches their fate on the sacred timeline their devastation is palpable; they now know they are meant to die -#at the hands of thanos after failing to save their brother -#after losing one last time#they see their final fate and know they were never meant to win; never to reach the respect and admiration theyve been chasing all this tim#but they're given a second chance at an ending - one they can be proud of and has meaning#and they SUCCEED; they ascend and take the throne not for power or control or even glory but because of the people they care for!!!!!!#loki accepts their burden with grace for the benefit of others; they escape the harrowing demise once preordained for them -#and while they mourn what they must leave behind they are fulfilled by the triumph of saving EVERYONE this time#the parallels between their sacred timeline ending and the finale's makes me way too emotional i am not okay#i have so many thoughts about the ost guahahauffh ignore me#i am obsessed with this track specifically like i want to write even more meta abt the significance of being used during mobius' last scene#okay these tags are way too long i'm shutting up now i'll see myself out#txt: icarus foaming @ the mouth analysis#char tags:#god of stories and faking death#peepaw from outerspace#loki meta#lokius#loki s2#loki season 2#loki spoilers#loki series#marvel#mcu#loki#Spotify
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lightning-in-your-teeth · 2 years ago
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they are trapping this man. at that hospital.
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munchablemusic · 2 years ago
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PERCY JACKSON FIRST TEASER TRAILER OUT NOW:
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applepies-and-starlight · 1 year ago
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hi, hello, you mentioned you have ocs and i would like to learn abt them if thats ok, could i get some fun facts abt them?
Y'know, I was planning to make a list of OCs anyway so this is a good excuse to do that
Gonna giving their names and fandoms with a couple of facts under cut (i feel like this might get long Very quick)
(Mid-edit Apple: minor Canto VI spoilers, nothing really story-related but I do use terms mentioned in 6.3 in passing; better safe than sorry tho)
Tamami Mochizuki (Persona Series)
As her last name implies, she's related to Nyx
She's my watsonian/in-universe explanation to where the rest of the arcana shadows are
Her persona variant is Akhlys; heavily based off Riordan's interpretation of her, meaning she can control poison
Her appearances changes a lot more than her brother's since the collective idea of suffering/misery changes over the ages while death stays stagnant (I've been considering making her look gyaru since that seems to be associated with japanese mean girl tropes)
Ena Kutsuki (Persona Series)
Initially, her name was Era, but I changed it somewhere down the line (did you know that the name 'Ena' has japanese origins too?)
Demigod of order; got a certain cup's magic handed to her after Striker's AI takeover attempt
Her bones are fucked up because of said magic (her spine can literally burst out of her back and turn into extra arms doc ock style)
She is being rizzed up by the goddess of misery and neither are aware they're in the slowburn plot and mutually believe they are friends (both of their friend groups can see how lovesick they are)
Cai An-Yue (ProjMoon; Lobcorp)
She's named after me! (My chinese name is Cai An Yu)
She has stolen her world's Library and made it her own
I'm considering classifying her as some flavor of Erlking because she's been fucking around the timelines and superimposing herself on various people and/or corpses
Transfem, any pronouns; ENA Dream BBQ is her voiceclaim (both voices)
Unit O-1 // Cordelle (Smash Bros/Kirby)
Their favorite attack is F-smash; their second favorite is Side-B (hammer flip)
They have a weird relationship with their creator (Octave), since they were initially made as a murder protocol and ended up accidentally developing a personality along the way; by the time the incident cleared out their creator went "wait, shit, I didn't expect that to happen I'm not ready to be a mom–"
They're on good terms for the situation they're in though
Their original name was Ocean before i changed it to Cordelle (Ocean started to sound less like a word the more i said it)
Whaleship Essex (Azur Lane)
Heavily inspired by Ishmael from Limbus Company
Very post-adventures 2!Shadow the Hedgehog coded
Feral; very prone to biting people regardless of whether they're friend or foe
(I'll be adding more on another post since someone else asked about her specifically and I'm still figuring out what to say about her)
Galatea "Gamma" Soliel (Miraculous/Genesis)
Ladybug holder; she's in a different timeline where the Miraculous have landed outside of Paris
All of her teammates are idiots and she only Vaguely tolerates the Black Cat because she Knows he's in a perpetual state of "Nagito Komaeda in his bad luck cycle"
Has shanked the Butterfly once; the Butterfly keeps trying to do homoerotic swordfights with her (they're similar in age)
May or may not be inspired by Mitsuru Kirijo from Persona 3, I can't tell you because if she was then it was likely subconscious
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amphibifish · 2 years ago
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i think i should read the magnus chase series
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joelletwo · 1 year ago
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rip kutner you would have loved this stupid chase-cameron-dead husband sperm plot.
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neildylandy · 4 months ago
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the char clone of House, M.D. is amber volakis, for the record
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tamisdava2 · 4 months ago
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Translations:
First pic: Happy Hannukah (In Yiddish)
8th pic: shall we dance?
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deadinquiry · 1 year ago
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they’ve consumed my brain for nearly 15 years now
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