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Nothing, just the way some of y'all can't forgive Chaol for calling Celaena a monster after he saw her butchering people but didn't even hesitate to forgive Rowan after he punched Aelin, bit her neck, and told her she should've died 10 years ago. "He accepted Dorian's magic but not Celaena's!!" Celaena was a literal fucking assassin tho? He saw the kind of horrible shit she was capable of doing and he has known Dorian his whole life. The way some of you guys can't handle a character with a reasonable explanation to question the MC 😭😭😭
#pro chaol westfall#chaol westfall#anti rowaelin#chaolena#sjm critical#chaol deserves better#chaorian#dorian havilliard
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People say that Chaol was the one who loved the idea of Celaena/Aelin and that he hated her for who she truly was, but what they fail to realise is that:
Chaol didn't knew that Celaena Sardothien was Aelin Ashryver Galathynius.
He loved the parts she SHOWED HIM and ALLOWED HIM to know
It's not his fault that she had her own secrets
Chaol tecnically didn't get a chance to love all of her, considering that when she was away, she met Rowan, her mate (I know that Rowan waited and gave Aelin time to talk with Chaol, but still…it was shitty move considering she made him promise that she would always pick him)
He still wanted to be with her after finding out that she was fae (CoM), she was the one that said no
On the other hand, SJM fandom adore Cassian even though, he was the one who (I believe) loved the idea of Nesta and never the real her. Cassian in ACOSF, was never positive towards Nesta. He was much more positive about the others than her. When she spoke against Rhysand he didn't do anything, which leads me to thinking that if maybe Nesta was worshipping Rhys like the members of the IC and was more of a fusion of Mor + Cassian's illyrian lover, he wouldn't have problem with her.
What do you think?
#anti sarah j maas#anti sjm#anti throne of glass#anti tog#pro chaol#pro chaol westfall#tog critical#throne of glass critical#anti acotar#anti acosf#acotar critical#anti cassian#anti inner circle#anti nessian#anti rowaelin#anti rowan whitethorn#anti rhysand#anti ic#pro chaolaena#pro nesta#pro nesta archeron#nesta deserves better#sjm critical#sarah j maas critical
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Pretty much everyone is a parasite.
Elide asked and chaol lets her use his. Same with Sartaq and Evangeline.
#sarah j maas#throne of glass#dorian havilliard#aelin galythinius#rowan whitethorn#chaol westfall#chaol and his bitches#yrene towers#nesryn faliq#aelin ashryver whitethorn galathynius#aedion ashryver#fenrys deserved a better last name#fenrys moonbeam#lysandra#lorcan salvaterre#manon blackbeak#asterin blackbeak#elide lochan
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at this point i'm wondering what sarah is thinking when writing her love interests, like ok it's clear she finds them hot but like....are they good people
Rhys:
UTM lap dance shenanigans
throwing Feyre into danger constantly (Weaver, destroying cauldron, getting the book from Adriata, etc etc)
Still not doing jack shit about wing clippings in Illyria?? Emerie is right there, Rhysand, go enforce your damn laws
Insulting his wife's sister constantly
Almost killed his wife's sister cause she dared give her important medical information
Locked Lucien (MY BOY!!) in the house of wind
Locked Nesta in the house of wind
Didn't give Mor any warning that time he made her face her abusers and she cried i think (ngl i forgot most of it)
Ignoring Hewn City even tho...Kier is like the only bad guy we've seen from there?? Surely there's decent people in Hewn City, don't gotta make everyone suffer
Nesta windhaven kidnapping intervention so she stops spending Rhys' money (if it was really about her own sake, they would've put a stop to it much earlier)
Seemingly alienates everyone in Feyre's life that could and would stand up to Rhys for Feyre's sake. Lucien? Nah, shoo. Nesta? Nah, shoo. Weird thought but Tarquin? Yeah, makes her steal his book.
And last but DEFINITELY not least; demon baby wife death
HE COULD'VE TOLD FEYRE... OR ATLEAST NOT THREATENED TO KILL HER SISTER FOR TELLING HER WHEN HE HOULD'VE TOLD HER IN THE FIRST PLACE??
THERE'S PROBABLY MORE BUT MOVING ON
Cassian:
Barely ever stands up for Nesta in the IC
Aids in kidnapping Nesta to Windhaven so she stops spending whysand's money
Laughs at Nesta when she falls down the stairs
Aids in punishing Nesta for daring to tell Feyre important medical info
Constantly going agaisnt Nesta's wishes and trying to "save her" when she doesn't want him to
That one time Azriel asked Nesta if Cass had pushed her down the stairs...Like are we gonna ignore that?? Personally I'd have a quarter life crisis if my closest friend, who is like my sibling and has known me most of our lives, seriously entertained the idea that i would physically assault the girl I like
general aggressiveness all of ACOSF
aids in bulldozing Nesta's apartment
Rowan goddamn Whitehorn (Who I've yet to see people bashing him somehow,,, HoF rowan was like if ACOSF cassian had a horrific murder baby
Left his pregnant mate alone during a war cause he wanted to prove himself....like..idk man if i had the choice between war and taking care of my pregnant wife i'd pick the wife (did he know she was pregnant? i've kind of forgotten by now)
Rowan's kid would've been hundreds of years older than Aelin.....just think abt that
Literally everything he did to Aelin during training in HoF
Their argument where he PUNCHED HER IN THE FACE
Threatened to whip Aelin...I repeat....Threatened to whip Aelin, an ex-slave....
Told Aelin it'd be better if she died 10 years ago (unprovoked?? bitch you met her like 2 weeks ago just cause she's getting on your nerves doesn't mean you gotta wish DEATH upon her)
Literally was relieved to find out she was only 19 because if she was a few years older she could've been THE CHILD OF HIS BEST FRIEND.
No issue with marrying the cousin of his best friend's child....Imagine if he hadn't met Aelin first.. If he'd met Aedion first, Aelin would've always been the relative of his friend's son to him
FOR THE RECORD i hate all of the SJM age gaps but rowan and aelin's specifically irks me because Aelin LITERALLY CALLS HIM OLD throughout the WHOLE SERIES
Literally tells Aelin he doesn't care about what she's been through and that she is nothing to him after she confronts him for leaving her
Puts Luca in danger by sticking him on to a frozen lake with a monster inside where he'll DIE if Aelin can't save him
Funnily enough, some of the only seemingly decent person guys in SJM 1. Are completely forgotten about in the books or 2. SJM had to make them violently unlikeable
Like we've got:
Tarquin, seemed like a pretty good guy, rightfully pissed that the IC stole his family heirloom, shows up like twice in the books (LET HIM COME BACK SARAH I LOVE HIM)
Tamlin, was pretty decent in book 1, was made violently unlikeable in book 2 onwards
Chaol, very strong morals, generally a good person, loves his wife, made violently unlikeable and boring in late CoM, HoF, and QoS (ToD is one of my favorite books in the series, will praise ToD till the day I die, my boy EARNED his own book)
Aedion, seemed like a good person, strong morals, spent years trading his dignity for the sake of Terrasen, loved his cousin above all else, made violently unlikable in KoA (even tho I think he was justified in being angry about it, i'd be SO pissed)
Sartaq, good guy, strong morals, Nesryn's chapters were some of my favorites in ToD, Sartaq is one of my favorite SJM love interests, i'll never forgive author lady for forgetting about him in KoA (tho i guess she forgot about everyone from ToD? Yrene and Chaol are the only important ones, she barely even mentions Nesryn even though Nesryn's BEEN an integral part of the gang since QoS, giving her the Suki from ATLA treatment)
#acotar#sjm#sarah j maas#throne of glass#tog#anti rhysand#anti rowan#anti cassian#anti nessian#anti feysand#chaol westfall#sartaq#tarquin#tamlin#aedion ashryver#nesta deserves better
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I just found out about a fan theory of how Throne of Glass happened in the same world ACOTAR but with a 15,000 year gap??? WTF???? I can’t bear to know the thought that that all my babies from TOG might be dead -
#throne of glass#aelin galathynius#aelin ashryver galathynius#rowan x aelin#aelin throne of glass#aelin fireheart#rowan whitethorn#dorian havilliard#chaol westfall#yrene towers#nesryn x sartaq#nesta archeron deserves better#anti inner circle#anti cassian#anti rhysand#pro nesta archeron#pro tamlin#sarah j maas#anti morrigan#fiction
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"My name is Sam Cortland... And i will not be afraid."
#never getting over him#sam cortland#sam cortland deserved better#tog#throne of glass#elide lochan#lorcan salvaterre#yrene towers#chaol westfall#dorian havilliard#asterin blackbeak
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Someone called Chaol Westfall "Tamlin on wheels"
...are you fucking kidding me?
Hating someone is whatever but BEING AN ABLEIST? INSULTING SOMEONE BECAUSE OF THEIR DISABILITY?
No joke, y'all gotta drop in a grave if you think joking about someone's disability is funny. All albeists gotta die.
I'm feeling extra bitchy today because my dad made me mad so...
This is technically Sarah's fault.
If she never messed up Tamlin's character or at least, didn't have him do the "horrible" (quote on quote) things he "did" (quote on quote) and never had Chaol written to be the "bad guy" just because of what went down between him and Celaena, this would never happen. (Don't take this part seriously please)
#acotar#throne of glass#tamlin#chaol westfall#pro chaol#they can never make me hate you#they don't love you like i love you#they don't get you like i get you#tamlin deserves better
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So i just started KoA and not even 100 pages in my heart is shattered, so yeah, RIP my feelings
#spoilers in tags#kingdom of ash#throne of glass#i still hate chaol#my girl yirene there are SO MANY hot men in this universe u could have chosen better#why is chaol so happy while my girl aelin and my bby rowan are suffering so much#i need justice#i love dorian really but he can be a martyr so my bbys can finally be happy and at peace pls#we can also sacrifice chaol just for the funsies#rowaelin#rowaelin is my roman empire pls and thank u#THEY DESERVE SO MUCH BETTER#im cryin in the club
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Kingdom of Ash Chapter 58
Chapter; Highlights
Not that there was much Elide could do.
Despite the generous gift of power that ran through the Lochan bloodline, she possessed no magic, no gifts beyond reading people and lying.
Rushed to get bandages, hot water, and whatever salves or herbs the healers calmly requested. None of them shouted. They only raised their voices, magic glowing bright around them, if a soldier was shrieking too loudly for their words to be heard.
The sun was barely over the horizon, judging by the light at the windows set high in the Great Hall, and so many already lay injured. So many. Still they kept coming, and Elide kept moving, her limp becoming a dull, then a sharp ache. A minor pain, compared to what the soldiers endured. Compared to what they faced on the battlements.
She didn't let herself think of her friends.
Didn't let herself think of Lorcan, who had not come to the chamber last night and had not sought them out this morning. As if he didn't want to be near her. As if he'd taken every hateful word she'd spoken to heart.
So Elide aided—and did not stop.
No, that magnificent horse trampled them, fearless and wicked, just as Chaol had predicted. A horse whose name meant butterfly
—stomping all over Valg foot soldiers.
Had his breath not been a rasp in his chest, Chaol might have smiled. Had men not been cut down around him, he might have laughed a bit, too.
But Morath was launching itself at the walls and gates with a furor they had not yet witnessed. Perhaps they knew who had come to Anielle and now hewed them down. Aelin and Rowan fought back-to-back, and Fenrys had plowed his way down the battlements to join Chaol by the second siege tower.
Morath, it seemed, did not think to surrender. Only to inflict destruction, to break into the keep and slaughter as many as they could before meeting their end.
His shield bloodied and dented, his horse a raging demon herself beneath him, Chaol kept swinging his sword. His wife lay within the keep behind him. He would not fail her.
Soon now. They'd win the field soon, and the song in his blood would quiet.
Part of him didn't want it to end, even as his body began to scream to rest.
Yet when the battle was done, what would remain?
Nothing. Elide had made that clear enough.
She loved him, but she hated herself for it.
He hadn't deserved her anyway.
She deserved a life of peace, of happiness.
He didn't know such things. Had thought he'd glimpsed them during the months they'd traveled together, before everything went to hell, but now he knew he was not meant for anything like it.
But this battlefield, this death-song around him ... This, he could do. This, he could savor.
The golden helmets of the khagan's army became clear, their fiery horses unfaltering.
Finer than any host he'd fought beside in a mortal kingdom. In many immortal kingdoms, too.
Obeying the death-song in his blood, Lorcan let his shields drop. He did not wish it to be easy. He wanted to feel each blow, see his enemy's life drain out beneath his sword.
The earth shook beneath thundering hooves, and arrows screamed overhead. Then there was roaring. And then blackness.
#Chapter 58#Kingdom of Ash#Sarah J. Maas#Elide Lochan#Yrene Towers#Nesryn Faliq#Salkhi#I love Salkhi#Sartaq#Chaol Westfall#Lorcan Salvaterre#First Read along with me NO SPOILERS PLEASE though warning for post & tags up to KoA 58 & more reacts/notes/quotes in tags below#No power; um Reading & lying is a skill though she’s brilliant she doesn’t need power-I love that they don’t shout-waiting for Sunrise —#—Okay where’s elide?there she is?what was with the ending?What??Where?Go!Eretia aww she came too! —smart children for Mala#The heart-realizing it-DID NOT STOP-Farasha lol Hellas Butterfly-YESROWAELIN literally have each others backs-the color scheme—#—of this cinematically with the dark colors against gold in the rising sun *chefs kiss* would be perfection-please don’t bring in spiders?#so how did that work btw with Falkan & the age & not recognized?Hope!!! DAMNThe dam!Water AND fire Noooo! YAS NESRYN&SALKHI! My bbs!#Just turn it to steam Aelin! Iron all the clothes lol she’d make a great dry cleaner! Whitethorn & the Queen inch by inch the land is their#song of war-then quiet-What would remain?She loved him she hated herself for it and he didn’t deserve it-You2can have peace too Lorcy#Fiery horses?better but still bad…LORCAN DONT U DARE!lion & death roaringNo armorNo prisonersjust war echoesold woundsThe#aftermath of forgotten thingsWhite banners-Next next time-She’s a good learner-The tower Westfall#The would not fail Celaena paralell along with then it is not the end THATS MY WIFE#Lorcan and the lion them all working together Fenrys and chaol or Sartaq signs to Nesryn#get back in line hold the line she held the line#told him not to run but to fight. — I don’t think we can trust the so called gods of these books anymore
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Spitting out the controversial yet true opinions everyone else is scared to point out😭 The main reason people even hate on Chaol is bc he doesn’t kiss Celaena/Aelin’s ass, like you want a partner who won’t even challenge you? lol
rowan is a cheap, boring and rude version of chaol. they're both grumpy, annoyed, no-nonsense warriors who at first are wary of aelin/celaena but grow to care for her deeply. they even have the same mbti!! the main difference is that chaol did it first, and chaol did it better.
#pro chaol westfall#chaol westfall#pro chaol#anti rowan#anti rowan whitethorn#anti rowbat#sjm#sjm critical#better than rowaelin#i was salty about the death of chaolena#until i realized chaol deserves better#chaorene
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Scared to post this one but... Sjm said that she fell in love with the ACOTAR characters after writing book one and then wrote all of book two and part of book 3. She then became obsessed with Rhysand and decided to insert him earlier than intended to make him a LI later on but otherwise kept the first book more or less the same. Sjm also said that in the original TOG Rowan was there from the beginning but he was never a love interest for the MC and then she rewrote the series to introduce Rowan a little later in Heir of Fire so he could be the LI. So there is a version of these series where Feylin and Chaolena are endgame. Chaol’s character suffered A LOT but thankfully he wasn’t turned full on into a tool, I loved him the whole time (tho many people disagree); Tamlin on the other hand, became more and more difficult to like because he was overwritten so many times to turn him into the bad guy bc there was absolutely no way anyone would choose Rhysand if Tamlin remained “nice,” and it’s really not a good romance if you have to pull down one character to bring up another. So despite BOTH sides making mistakes in BOTH relationships, the men bear the brunt of the blame. But part of being feminist is acknowledging that BOTH sides make mistakes. Making men look like the villain in a relationship to prop up the women is not feminism. This explains why the Feylin and Chaolena romantic development was so much better than for Feysand and Rowaelin; both were overwritten.
#sjm critical#chaolena development was better and i stand by it#chaolena#feylin#rip the og ships#celaena sardothien#feyre archeron#tamlin analysis#pro chaol westfall#chaol deserves better#chaorene#anti rowaelin#anti feysand
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now that i have finished the sjm universe, here are my official favorite characters
acotar
Lucien - no one can make me hate this man i have been there from day 1! i thought he was the most charming and funny character in acotar and i have come to love him more as the series progresses. i think that he is a complex character and somehow the character that makes me feel the most (elucien book will be the death of me) and as i have said before… i don’t even want him to end up with elain or anyone else, I WANT HIM FOR MYSELF!
Nesta- i used to hate nesta and i dreaded reading her book, and then i read it, and i have never seen myself in a character more. i would, im not joking, die for nesta. talk about complex character. i have nothing else to say i love her.
tog
Yrene- i LOVE the way sjm writes mothers (some) but i love the fact the yrene being pregnant did not stop her from ANYTHING. she saved the whole world so that her child and her family could have the future they deserve, the better future that was hoped for by each character. Yrene also made me fall in love with chaol in TOD. yrene is a powerful woman in every sense, from innish to orynth… i loved her
fenrys- he gave a lucien vibe and had some witty little comments throughout the book that i loved. but the emotions that radiated off him after his brother and what him and aelin went through… my heart breaks for him.
aelin- yes she is the FMC but.. oh my god. TALK ABOUT COMPLEX! i cant even put into words how how much i loved her. that is all i can say.
CC
Tharion- again lucien vibes. he is funny and charming and genuinely made me smile each time he was on the page. i felt so conflicted when he started self sabotaging to the highest degree, but i still found myself wanting him to get through and be happy. this boy is an idiot but hes my idiot.
baxian- i.. want.. NOTHING BUT HAPPINESS FOR HIM! i just.. i want him to be happy
Ember- i want her to be my mother? again love the way that sjm writes moms and the fierceness that ember loves her family. i think you can especially see this in the bonus chapter with my girl nesta
#sjm#cc hofas#crescent city#hofas#throne of glass#acotar#hofas spoilers#a court of thorns and roses#sjm universe#sjmaas#acosf#nesta archeron#fenrys moonbeam#pro nesta#nesta acotar#a court of silver flames#fenrys tog#yrene towers#yrene westfall#aelin ashryver galathynius#lucien vanserra#lucien acotar#tharion ketos#baxian argos#ember quinlan
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Chaol antis say that it's partially Chaol's fault that Nehemia died bc he definitely could have prevented it from happening by informing someone like Celaena/Aelin or Dorian and then they could've stopped Nehemia from becoming a martyr.
They say that he was selfish and only thought about keeping his position as captain of the guard.
These are some valid takes, however if Nehemia felt that she was in danger, why didn't SHE tell Celaena/Aelin about it? Elena Galathynius also knew abt Nehemia and didn't do anything to prevent it from happening? Then why is Chaol the only one held accuntable for it?
Besides, even if they saved Nehemia, there's no posibility that she would survive the whole series and wouldn't have been kïlled of in another books.
#anti sarah j maas#anti sjm#anti throne of glass#anti tog#pro chaol#pro chaol westfall#tog critical#throne of glass critical#nehemia ytger#nehemia ytger deserved better#nehemia#pro chaolaena#sarah j maas critical#sjm critical
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Tag yourself
#house is on fire#god is dead#gavriel#rowan whitethorn#chaol and his bitches#chaol westfall#aedion ashryver#elide lochan#lysandra#dorian havilliard#manon blackbeak#lorcan salvaterre#aelin ashryver whitethorn galathynius#aelin galythinius#fenrys deserved a better last name#fenrys moonbeam
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Unhinged rating of SJM characters' ships from someone who hasn't read any of the books.
(Purely based on posts I've seen on social media. This is what I think of the ships based on what the fandom says about them. This is not a serious rating, obviously, since I haven't read a single book of hers or even a fanfic based on those.)
1.. Feysand 3/10
I've seen people say he drugged her and forced her to perform a lap dance and he twisted her broken arm until she agreed to a deal with him. And that after they got together, he didn't tell her that her pregnancy could kill her because the baby couldn't come out with wings.
2.. Feyre and Tamlin 5/10
I have seen people shit on Tamlin for being the worst, but I've never seen anyone provide direct examples from text. All people say is that he's very toxic and that he wanted to imprison Feyre in his house. But she was in danger? And she was a 19 illiterate peasant girl and there were centuries old fearies who wanted to harm her?? Maybe prioritize your safety for the time being, girl? Idk, maybe Tamlin did some other worse things, but if his list of crimes against feminism only consists of this, then he's not that bad.
3.. Nesta and Cassian 2/10
I'm sorry, I don't see the appeal. Nesta needed therapy, not Cassian. If Nesta was Lady Death and Cassian stood by her side ready to bathe in her enemies' blood, I'd dig it. But I've heard Nesta loses her powers?!!!... No. Just no. Also, Cassian has internalized bastard phobia he had centuries to get over and he still hasn't. We do not tolerate bastard slander in this court. It's not a personality trait. And he laughed when she fell down the stairs??
4.. Nesta and Eris 9/10
These two would slay sooooo hardddd!!!... The amount of cunt they would serve. Drink wine and talk shit together. Also, they fit together more. Autumn court would show Nesta that even death and decay can be beautiful. Not every Archeron sister needs to be paired with a Bat boy.
5.. Gwyn and Azriel 4/10
I mean, sure, but why? No spice, no salt, no nothing. They had completely normal boring interactions. Not much potential here.
6.. Elain and Azriel 7/10
Is flower girl/warrior boy cliché? Yes. Do I care? Not really. Azriel seems a level-headed guy in general and he's more open to Elain than Gwyn. Also, there are already parallels with Rosehall and Elain being compared to a rose.
7.. Elain and Lucien
No rating because I'm very confused about these two. Why is she even Lucien's mate?
8.. Aelin and Sam 8/10
They were cute. He seemed like a good guy. He loved Celeana, he would've loved Aelin.
9.. Aelin and Chaol 5/10
I have no idea who this guy is. No disrespect. I gave a middle score.
10.. Aelin and Dorian 6/10
They're better off as besties. They're both in line for their own thrones, so it would complicate things.
11.. Manon and Dorian 9/10
Dare I say, they'd be the kinkiest couple? Pop off. Love it. Zero notes.
12.. Aelin and Rowan 6/10
Aelin only settled for Rowan because she was too tired for something else. Bold statement from someone who has no idea what she's talking about. But I just get these vibes. They were both damaged and tired people. Aelin still deserved more empathy. I've heard he once hit her out of anger. And kept saying he would never love her like he loved her ex.
#sarah j maas#throne of glass#a court of thorns and roses#acotar#acotar ships#acotar shitpost#feyre archeron#anti rhysand#tamlin#nesta deserves better#nesta archeron#nesta acotar#nesta x cassian#nesta acosf#feyre x tamlin#nesta x eris#neris#azrael#eris acotar#eris vanserra#azriel x elain#azriel x gwyn#aelin galathynius#aelin ashryver galathynius#rowan whitethorn#rowan x aelin#dorian havilliard#manon blackbeak#dorian x manon
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So I don't recall if you've read the ToG series but if you have apparently Yrene was supposed to be POC? Idk if that's a retcon (probably is) but I don't remember ever reading a description that made her sound POC. And her name is Yrene (pronounced Irene) so all SJM did was give her a typically white woman name with a quirky spelling, also I think she has red hair or smth? None of that is typically POC and it enrages me how she's made out to be a super powerful POC when she clearly wasn't supposed to be in the first place. SJM at it again with her super diverse cast of characters🙄
To my knowledge she was written as an ambiguous darker woman but never clarified as actually black
I also remember someone talking about how Yrene is literally just a mix of the black magic woman and modern mammy stereotype - with Chaol or whoever it was relying on her magic and power for his livelihood. Not to even mention her killing Nehemia only to give Aelin some kind of motivation
But thank you!!! This raises my point about SJM and other authors doing the bare minimum of giving a character a different skin color and calling it representation. And all the fans eat. it. up. It’s just lazy writing and a quick grab at “diversity” when they’ve put no actual effort into making it. We POC in fandoms seriously deserve better and need to stand tf up, cause this isn’t it
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