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"Kyoshi Novels as the John Mulaney Tik Tok soundbyte that everyone uses (spoilers ahead)

Have you ever seen a ghost?: Ever seen Father Glow Worm? I was over on the bench: "Yangchen protect me" Yangchen's not here now, I am! I made a salad with craisins!: Eating rodents Hi, my name's Chip Mulaney, and I'm your father: Hi, my name's Kyoshi, your late boss was my father. But sometimes, he would be gay: [Rangshi] Ever been to the goddamn zoo?: Ever been to the goddamn opera? I used to smoke crack!: Kyoshi being embarassed by Kuruk's legacy What's yesterday?: Kyoshi being confused by Lao Ge's philosophical ramblings Shut up, you're all gonna die, street smarts!: Jianzhu poisoning everyone Boom! Orange juice, that's life!: Atuat being Atuat at the party Now I've thrown him off his rhythm!: Yun eating Father Glow Worm Give us some money!: The people harassing Yun when he left the spirit world Stay down on the ground, you motherfucker!: Yun killing a bunch of people

Do my friends hate me, or do I just need to go to sleep?: Kyoshi and Rangi arguing over whether or not to kill Yun But why don't we tell our relatives that I'm a four-year-old boy?: Kyoshi reliving the wrong part of Kuruk's past Do you want me to kill that guy for you?: Lao Ge[/Tieguai]. I am now gross.: [Rangshi] during the final battle with powder and blood on their faces? What's this? (All hail fire lord Chaejin)Peppah! (Kyoshi eats the dirt and it's salt) I'm putting wires into a board filled with holes to move the voices around!: Kyoshi trying and failing to commune with past avatars"

April 11, 2021

Y'all remember this sound's heyday? That was fun.

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If we want to look at hypothetical royal polygamy in the Fire Nation, there are two aspects of it's history that might be informative.

The first is how they became a single nation. After a long period of competing warlords, the first firelord managed to both defeat the warlords and unite the islands behind him. We know literally nothing about how he actually did this, we don't even know his name. What we DO know, is that the fire nation is a collection of ancient family clans, that were always competing with each other. It is very likely bringing these families under his nominal rule required marriage alliances; and could easily set a precedent for the firelord having multiple wives.

I want to know this guy's story so badley!

Much closer to the show, we have the succession crisis in the time of Avatar Kyoshi. The firelord Chaeryu had a tryst with a noblewoman named Huazo, which resulted in an illegitimate son named Chaejin. This didn't come out until after he had married another noblewoman named Sulan. Because Huazo was a high ranking member of a powerful clan, the firelord had no choice but to acknowledge her and their son. They had no official position or title, but everyone treated them like a lesser branch of the royal family. Firelord Chaeryu shortly had another son with his wife, prince Zoryu; but he was in an awkward position because his acknowledged heir was not his first born. And both of the mothers came from rival noble clans with ambitions. He eventually had Chaejin sent to join the Fire Sages, to take him out of the possible succession.

But after Chaeryu died, Chaejin returned to court. The first year of Zoryu's reign was beset by bad harvests, causing some to claim he was an ineffectual leader, and/or in spiritual disfavor. People began to seriously suggest Chaejin, who was generally seen as more charismatic and accomplished, should rule. Chaejin himself argued he was entitled to the throne, and that his father had twisted the law by sidelining him. It nearly came to a civil war between the two half-brothers, and the clans that backed them.

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I don't remember if the Kyoshi books went into the details of how common it was for firelords to historically have children with multiple women. But everyone treated Chaejin's threats to press a claim as a serious possibility; whether they agreed he had the rightful claim or not. So it all implies that this kind of succession struggle has historical precedence.

Not a smutty question but a serious one about Zuko setting up a harem

I've talked about polygamy and ATLA before . One way it could be a factor is the Firelord historically having a harem, like historical East Asian royal families did. In more recent decades, the Fire Nation royal family seems to have embraced monogamy, but that's part of Sozin's new, imperialist Fire Nation, a Fire Nation that Zuko probably wants to turn his back on. The royal family is also extremely thin, and a harem is a good way to rapidly produce heirs.

Imagine that a few years (say five or six) after the war Zuko hasn't married and hasn't produced an heir, but, with some prodding from his advisors, has decided to return to royal tradition by setting up a harem.

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the fandom acting as if kyoshi is the most brutal cutthroat avatar lady there is makes me shudder to think about how they’d react to me as an avatar. and i dont mean this in a ‘ohhhhh im so built different 😈💪🔥’ kind of way, i mean this in a ‘if i was put through what kyoshi was put through my main goal would’ve been to blow up and then act like i dont know nobody.’

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Me, praying to all the gods for some Saowon related tom fuckery to appear in the new Reckoning of Roku:

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I'm not really sure about these myname comeback rumors......... Idk where people are hearing this from but I can't find out shit about it

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From what we've seen of Fire Nation royal siblings, having one child was probably a deliberate choice.

Advisor: But Fire Lord, what if, spirits forbid, something stops the firstborn from taking the throne?!

Mai: Historically, what usually stops the firstborn from taking the throne in this country?

Advisor: ......huh.

When do you think Mai and Zuko would have their daughter? And do you like the theory that they had trouble conceiving I personally don't but people pass it around like it's Canon.

I was trying to figure exactly this out a few months ago. No one disputed my theory of her being born roughly 10 years after AtLA ends, making Zuko 26-27 and Mai 25-26, so that's what I'm going with.

If anyone else has tried to do the math, perhaps they're trying to explain the gap in time there with the headcanon about trouble conceiving. (Of course, the comics have tried to help with this gap by having Maiko breaking up 1 year after AtlA and staying that way for 2 in-universe years already. If 'Ashes of the Acedemy' doesn't get them back together, maybe we can kick the can down the road for another 6-7 years. :P) It's also a handy explanation for why Maiko would only have one child, monarchs usually being big about having as many heirs as they can as quickly as they can.

It is an easy explanation, so I'm not against the idea and might use it in fanfic backstory, but neither do I have any enthusiasm for it. I'd rather just give Zuko some extended family who could theoretically inherit the crown to prevent a government crisis and yet remain vulnerable to some antagonistic politicking by a throne-seeking Azula.

As for other explanations why Zuko and Mai might not have kids right away, it's a toss up between anxiety fueled by their childhood trauma and awesome globe-spanning adventures that keep them too busy. Or maybe both, considering this couple.

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Kiyi is not a Princess - A Look At the Fire Nation's Line of Succession

It's not even that much about Kiyi. But the creators seemingly got so lost in the sauce that their ideas about how absolutist monarchies work are as good as taken out of Disney movies now. So, let's set the record straight.

The Fire Nation line of succession

When it comes to royal lines, there were multiple elements that went into setting the line of succession: descent, sex, legitimacy, religion etc. For the Fire Nation, the ones we have 100% confirmed are descent and legitimacy (this last one seen with the Camellia-Peony War, where Chaejin was excluded from the succession because he was born out of wedlock). I would have gone on a whim to say sex counts as well, however, it is a bit foggy. In the Reckoning of Roku, it is mentioned that Firelord Taiso believed Zeisan (Sozin's younger sister) would have been a more competent ruler but could never become Fire Lord due to being a nonbender (I didn't actually read the book, so if someone who did wants to pitch in with the exact wording, please feel free to). This implies that being a Firebender is a requirement, but being a woman isn't. However, it also implies that Taiso would have been fine with ignoring the descent part (Sozin was older) if he deemed fit. Skipping the firstborn in favour of the second one isn't unheard of when it comes to succession so sure. And he is the absolute monarch, if he wants to pass papers to change the line of succession, he can. It is unclear to me if there is any power in place to veto or block a Fire Lord's ruling on any matter so for all we know, if he wanted, he could have. Plus, the fact that Ozai got crowned over Iroh because it was 'Azulon's dying wish'. For the religion part, it seems like the Fire Sages have to perform the coronation and acknowledge the monarch.

So to make it more digestible, the line of succession (while Azulon was still alive) is: Iroh → Lu Ten (firstborn of the heir) → Ozai → Zuko → Azula. With Lu Ten dead, Iroh MIA (at the time) then we have Ozai → Zuko → Azula. When Iroh came back, he gets added at the end of this line of succession. I am a bit unclear on Iroh in current times because it looks to me like he rescinded his role in the line of succession altogether with deciding to live in Ba Sing Se and letting politically inexperienced Zuko rule instead of taking over for a few years to create some stability.

Right now, we have Fire Lord Zuko and his heir presumptive (aka an heir that can be displaced if the monarch has children) Azula. Unless he wrote a decree to take her out of the line of succession — which would require a lot more brain cells than the writers are willing to give Zuko, not that he had a lot of them when it came to politics to begin with —then she's next in line. It doesn't matter how much anyone wants it or not, if Zuko drops dead tomorrow, Azula gets the throne.

Now, onto the other matter.

How does one become a Princess?

Option 1: You marry into the royal family. For example, Ursa was styled as a Princess, as she married Prince Ozai.

Option 2: You're born in a royal line. For example, Azula is a Princess because her father is a Prince, her grandfather, at the time of her birth, was the ruling monarch of the Fire Nation etc.

Bonus Option it's complicated: Royals had a habit of having children out of wedlock sometimes. Said children, if acknowledged, could be granted titles (Count of X, Dutchess of Y etc.) . Getting acknowledged and a title does not automatically put you in the line of succession, though. For example, Firelord Chaeryu was forced to acknowledge Chaejin and avoid dishonoring his noble mother and her house, but he excluded Chaejin from the royal family.

So Kiyi is not a Princess. Simple as that. Neither of her parents are of the royal line.

Could she become a Princess?

Well, this gets interesting.

Let's start with the fact that Kiyi got a pretty bad deal in a class-based monarchical society.

First thing, while her mother is a noble, her father is a commoner. Even if Ursa's family became destitute after Roku's death because of political reasons, it does not change the fact that she is still nobility unless Sozin revoked Rina's title, which I am not 100% sure he did. We don't know anything about Jinzuk besides the fact that he was the magistrate of Hira'a. While magistrates do not have to be part of the nobility, they can be. He could have been a second/third/fourth son of a small noble family with limited power/resources, given the position he was given was in a place like Hira'a, which is what I am inclining towards. He could have also been just some guy, but someone appointed him, and as a rule of thumb, you don't just go into the street and pick a random person to appoint to an administrative and leadership role, even if it's a small town. Given that Azulon was set on Ozai marrying Ursa because she was Roku's granddaughter, whether or not Jinzuk was a noble, it doesn't matter all that much in the grand scheme of things. However, in Kiyi's case, it does if Zuko wants to give her a title. It's more stigma than anything because people can be given nobility titles for specific services to the crown etc. But this is not her only issue. Which leads me to...

Second thing, Kiyi is a bastard. Which, in my opinion, would hold even more stigma than her father not being a noble. Ursa never divorced Ozai. As far as we know, polygamist marriages aren't a thing in the Fire Nation, so her marriage to Ikem/Noren is invalid. Could she be granted a divorce retroactively by the Fire Sages? Actually, yeah. Because Zuko named Shyu as High Sage, which was like the one sound political move he ever did tbh. We don't see what the Fire Nation's stance on divorce is, but given that Shyu is a Zuko loyalist, he'd probably grant Ursa retroactive divorce from Ozai. I am not a legal expert, however, as far as I know, retroactive decisions tend to be reserved for correcting a mistake or omission in the written record. She was still married to Ozai when she went and married Ikem. Though technically, she married him under a fake identity (and so did he), which might make the marriage void regardless in the eyes of the law. Idk how Spirit involvement affects legal matters in the world of Avatar, but as things stand right now, unless we pretzel-twist ourselves to make excuses, Kiyi is born outside of legitimate wedlock.

Now, Zuko might not care. In fact, he probably doesn't. He could still give Kiyi a title, including that of Princess. It was not uncommon for illegitimate relatives of rulers to be offered roles/titles once acknowledged. The real question is if he would put her in the line of succession. Kiyi has no business being there because she does not have royal blood.

Could Zuko do whatever he wants, give her the title of Princess and shove her in the line of succession while taking Azula out of it for good measure? Sure, he can. He'd probably love that, in fact. But that leaves two things open.

One, nobility would not take kindly to a bastard child of a commoner with no royal blood being in the line of succession. If we also add the angle of taking Azula out of it, it would just increase their ire. There is already a long list of why the nobility is probably angry at Zuko (and should attempt to assassinate him a lot more than they do), but I think this one in particular has other implications. There might be nobles who are neutral about Zuko. Shamelessly discarding societal norms on a whim might make their perspective swing towards negative. It could make him lose goodwill he might have or potential allies.

Two, it will make the commoners wonder. If this random girl, raised as a peasant, with a commoner father, born out of wedlock, can be put in the line of succession just like that — while discarding a princess of the blood if we are at it — then… is the royal line not that special? The whole premise of a monarchy is that the monarch and their descendants have the divine right to rule. Being part of that bloodline gives you the right to rule. So if that can be discarded, if that bloodline is not all that important… should Zuko be Firelord? And most importantly, does the Fire Nation really need a monarch at all?

Kiyi is not a princess, and for the well-being of Zuko's reign — which is already barely holding together — he better not make her one.

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✷ the nakahara clan :͏͏ order and corruption ⸝⸝

〝 a nation constructed in blasphemy and contradictions .

the nakahara clan is a theocracy, which makes shinrinwa is a country divided by loyalty to their god or progression. the culture is inspired by (ancient) japanese customs and european.

❝ what’s the religion ?

it’s a mixture between christianity, daoism and shintoism. it surrounds the worship of a man, mai’ja ryūya, and the clan founded in his honor.

ryūya is a man just as founded in obscurity as his wife, his upbringing just as, if not more, covered from the public.

he is associated with huo xuanlan, the junoha ethnic cleansing, & with light and prosperity, being uplifted as a god after his death. it isn’t confirmed how he passed away, given his ability of immortality and quick regeneration brought upon him by the nakahara clan, but . . it is prophesied that it was extracted from him once he started spewing statements trying to validate xuanlan’s existence.

❝ members of the clan ?

many of the members are hidden from the public, but the ones that are known are:

nakahara kōmyō — the man responsible for ryūya and akuma’s upbringing. leader of the clan. too weak to actively rule himself.

nakahara akuma — details coming soon . .

hana chaejin — last survivor of junoha genocide, taken in for reasons unknown. details coming soon . .

❝ timeline ?

unaccounted history —> ryūya’s rise to power —> junoha genocide + chaejin being shipped over —> akuma is sold around this time, this begins the peace treaty with huoshi . .

akuma is groomed to fight in the first war against khemorians at the age of twelve, survives and inherits the snake’s power (granted complete immortality) —> present story.

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