#centaurworld season 2 spoilers

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Becky Apples ✨️🍎 (1/2)

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so.... do Horse and Rider just... call each other that? did Rider not give her Horse a name? is "Rider" just Rider's name?

[veeferns]

just watched centaurworld and you cannot tell me there wasn't conflict in the writer's room about horse x rider

(screenshots below including the finale so spoilers)

so in S2E4 Horse says this refering to Becky Apples

and then later that very same episode she says this to wamawink comparing the situation between her and jeffica to horse and becky apple's situation

what are these mixed messages I'm being given

then in the series finale the nowhere king compares himself to horse

in regards to the situation between them and their "humans"

the situation between the nowhere king and his "human" being very much romantic

and then there's how sensual they made all of these scenes

and there's many times where it looks like they almost kiss

and the whole U-Haul lesbian thing in regards to this

but then there's all this

so in conclusion I think there was conflict in the writer's room about this so there's multiple things pointing both ways and to be clear I don't condone this ship I just wanted to publish my thoughts on what happened to make this how it is, and if you're trying to think of a reason why this could have happened in canon then perhaps the centaurworld's anthropomorphism of Horse it turned horse's bond to rider into a romantic one because the bond between a horse and their rider isn't really something that exists between two anthropomorphic beings

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Got this song stuck in my head:

Once shattered, now whole

Once whole, now united

Once united, now eternal

I swear, I will never stop thinking about you

You have come to set me free

Love is a spark

And if you should hurt me I'll always forgive you

Love's an evergrowing blaze

You are a part of me

I will never part from you

Once shattered, now whole

She was meant to be mine

Once whole, now united

Once united, now eternal

And my love for her runs eternal

And with this ring I pledge

Never to leave your side

Even through hardship and darkness and pain

From you I won't hide

Once shattered, now whole

Once whole, now united

Once united, now eternal

-Woman, General, both of them and Noone from Centaurworld

And while it is a beautiful song and a beautiful scene, I wrote down the lyrics specifically to appreciate how amazingly they foreshadow that what the Elktaur felt (at least by this point) wasn't love, just a crazy obsession with Woman. Also the song, by describing how he feels about her, also showcases how he doesn't feel about himself, even when he should.

"I swear, I will never stop thinking about you": already starting kinda obsessive, but okay, if you're feshly in love or do something big like a wedding, I can see how you might proclaim something like that. The fact that he follows through with it even while they haven't seen each other in ages is kinda creepy, but still something that might be viewed as romantic. But if you ask me, he should maybe have spent less time thinking about her and more time trying to think like her. She loved centaurworld, she loved the rift connection between both worlds and wanted it to be open, she was given to kindness for all things. And by splitting and keeping himself in halves and thus creating the Nowhere King he ruined all of that for her.

"And if you should hurt me I'll always forgive you": again, weird sentiment that might be okay on such an emotional day, but if you think about it, actually not a good sign. Like, General, my guy, if your partner hurts you (repeatedly), they should not just get absolution for that from the start. That's not healthy. Also, where's even a fraction of that forgiveness towards yourself?

"You are a part of me": you know who is even more a part of you, General? Hm? Do you?

"I will never part from you": well, I suppose at least they're matched in their unhealthy relationship ideals?

"She was meant to be mine": she belongs to noone but herself, Noone. And if you truely loved her you would a) be happy she found someone and b) not stalk around on her wedding uninvited.

"Even through hardship and darkness and pain, From you I won't hide": for one - General, you lying fucking ass. You literally tore yourself in half just to hide you centaur half from Woman. And once again, where's that sentiment for yourself? So you can stick with this random human through hardship, darkness and pain, but not with yourself? I think you might have the wrong priorities here, my guy.

So yeah, in conclusion Elktaur should probably have been comfortable saying all of this to himself before going around throwing it at someone else.

[fragilethingz]

I still love you You're the best dad And you're handsome and smart Just please say something from the heart

[tadpoledancer]

one thing that irked me about the centaurworld finale was when horse revealed the true identity of the nowhere king and rider pulled that "you're just a horse" bs. I remember watching that for the first time and I had to pause the show because it sounded so out of character for her. yeah, she just heard something absolutely batshit insane that goes against everything she knows, but belittling horse- her best friend and sister- doesn't feel right. I think it would have been far more devastating if, when horse told rider to trust her, she responded with "just this once, I can't" because I know that would have killed me

[srslylini]

„has any tv series ever done {this} succesfully“

Idk man watch some kids shows (like Avatar the last airbender, Centaurworld, The Owl house …) I feel you‘d be surprised with how much better you could do

My god, even money heist was clearer with its anti police message.

oh how I hate the fact that second hand embarrassment hurts me physically

[tangledinink]

what's your centaurworld opinions?

spoilers below if you care.

I'm so torn on that show, because there are parts where I think it's beautiful and compelling and visually stunning, but there are also parts where I'm just... so disappointed in it? Like, I commend it for being out there and taking risks and trying to be different, but like...

You know the opening scene in the very first episode? Before Horse ends up in Centaurworld? And we get the whole Rider's Lullaby Thing before Horse and Rider get seperated? After that I was immediately, like... so disappointed. Because right off the bat I was like! Well... I don't care about this world or this story, quite frankly, I care about that world that we saw before! about Horse's world! About her and Rider! And, like, yes, I know the plot is about "oh this is how Horse gets back to her world and gets back to Rider," but, like, at least for me, none of the Centaurworld characters really won me over, esp not at first. I didn't give a shit about them or their world! So they were really just... in the way. They were obstacles standing in between me and getting to see more of Horse and Rider's story, and that's, like, idk, maybe not what you want? For your main cast?

That's not to say that I hated it, because I didn't hate the first season! There were episodes and moments that I enjoyed, and I liked most of the music, as well, but I really wasn't a fan of the second season at all.

I HATED the birdtaur episode. Like! I HATED the whole gimmick where they treated Horse and her Herd as a 'TV show' and the main cast were all annoyed at them for 'treating their lives live entertainment' and judging Horse's decision to split up with Rider as like? A kind of subtle jab at criticisms from fans because it... it doesn't work!? Like, in the show, Horse's main defense against the Birdtaurs saying that the ending of season 1 wasn't good and 'felt empty' since they did all this build-up to reunite with Rider only to immediately leave her again was "well this is my real life!!!"

Okay, but, like... it's still a TV show. If the Birdtaurs are a stand-in for real Centaurworld fans, then Horse's defense... doesn't work at all? Because it's not her real life. It's a make-believe TV show. That you seemingly have no actual defense for. (Because it's... it's valid criticism, actually...) Also just in general making fun of your own fans is, like... stupid, I think.

I also feel like season 2 totally assassinated Wammawink's character? I liked her in season 1! She was overbearing and protective and a bit much sometimes, but one of her main character traits is that she loves her herd and is their caretaker, and she wants to ensure they're safe and protected at all times... in season 2 she just? Doesn't seem to care about them at all? She spends the entire second season just being so self-absorbed and catty the entire time, and it makes no sense.

I didn't like Durpleton, Glendale, or Ched at all, they were all just... too annoying for me to enjoy.

I'm still fucking mad that literally ALL the main cast got at least some kind of backstory/side-story type thing... except Zulius, for some reason? Despite being a fan-favorite (and my personal fav because I mean. Come ON. He's just fun.)

I understand it's a kid's show and they're gonna have silly moments and jokes and comic relief, etc etc etc, okay, sure, there will be fart jokes, fine, not my taste but it's fine it wasn't made for me, whatever. But it often felt like... the show wasn't allowed to breathe? There was no point where it truly took itself seriously. There always had to be some dumb heeheehaha fart joke shoehorned in. Which is, like, fine, if you wanna be a fart joke show, that's fine! It's just that Centaurworld also tries to be an edgy drama at the same time, and it just... I don't think it pulls off being both. Comedy and drama can definitely exist at the same time but! There are times when you have to allow the show to be one or another! Is this a dramatic character moment? Just be a dramatic character moment! It often felt like Centaurworld truly was not capable of even having a single scene with some 'bad-dum-ts' fart joke moment in it, which made it very hard for me to? Take any of it seriously or enjoy it.

Also, I hated the Nowhere King's story. I thought he was so dumb and uncompelling. I know he's the bad guy and you're not supposed to LIKE him but like? When they told us the backstory I think they expected us to, you know, feel SORRY for him? And I didn't! At all! I found no part of his story to be sympathetic. That guy was just a fucking idiot the whole way through, just repeatedly shooting himself in the foot by being this self-important "I'm not like other centaurs" dude while at the same time being all "woe is me this girl will never like me since I'm a centaur so I won't even ATTEMPT to get to know her at all, I'm gonna jump straight to crimes against nature and deceiving her." I thought that guy was stupid and I did not care about him.

ALSO? HOW THE FUCK DOES THE PORTAL KEY WORK? Like??? It makes NO sense to me??? Like, sure, apparently, it keeps the Rift open to connect the two worlds or whatever, I guess, but then it also like, just... does other magick? It can just??? Separate centaurs, for some fucking reason? Which I don't understand? Is that just what the key does? Open the rift AND de-centaur people? Or is it just a generic magick item that can do anything? But then also the Nowhere King could make minotaurs... without the key??? It makes no fucking sense to me and I think it's dumb.

... I like the songs, though, and the animation is really pretty. Also I thought the ending was dumb lol.

[l0thcat]

I keep thinking about TBB and how it ended. Or the whole season i should say, the ending was pretty good with a few flaws ( in my opinion ).

And you know, I'm not surprised, as much as i LOVE this show, I'm used to cartoons getting shit. Its been going on for far too long.

Its Disney AND Netflix. And here is a list of shows that were doing good, got told mid season its getting canceled, and a rushed ending.

Amphibia

The Owl House

She Ra and The Princesses Of Power ( 2018 )

Centaurworld*

My Little Pony G4* and G5

Steven Universe*

OK KO lets be heroes.*

Star Trek Prodigy*

Kipo and the age of the wonderbeasts.

The Mandalorian ( i know its not a cartoon but it has the same vibes as TBB ).

And probably many more. It sucks, so bad, for animation. And I'm saying this because i fully believe Disney or whoever was going to cancel TBB if it already isn't. They just didn't want to announce that.

Other notes:

*Centaurworld ; Was meant to be an ADULT cartoon and very much has left overs from that, however Netflix decided it was too MLP-esc so they made it for kids instead which ended up just being a bunch of fart and butt jokes. And then got canceled anyways so everything had to rush and wrap up in season 2. Which SUCKS because it is so beautiful when it can be and has beautiful music.

*MLP G4 is not Netflix nor Disney and while it did get multiple seasons and an ending, it had new writers during, i don't know, s6 or s7. And things slowly went backwards. And the end felt rushed imo. It wasn't a bad one but it didn't feel.. satisfying.

*Steven Universe ; i love Steven Universe, it was canceled because the creator got an Sapphic wedding AND kiss scene on screen, on a kids cartoon. But they compromised by after the finale they would get a spin off and a movie. The finale is good. Whats rushed here to me, was the spin off. And again, this is not Disney or Netflix, but Cartoon Network.

OK KO and Star Trek prodigy are also not Disney or Netflix ( which apparently Netflix is trying to save Star Trek Prodigy ) but also kicked the bucket.

All this to say ; there is a huge problem within the animation area and I'm tired of CEOs or whoever forcing creators and writers to cancel or shorten their stories.

The Bad Batch s3 is no better in my opinion. I loved a lot of scenes of it and I'm grateful for a lot of it and I'm not honestly sure if this is Disney or Jennifer or someone else but it really hurts.

Here is why it bothers me:

I'll just get this one out of the way first. Tech. Tech COULD have been sacrificed. He COULD have died. In a way that was actually meaningful. Omega got captured anyway, she was probably going to whether Tech went home with them or not. His death IS sad and i DO see them trying to honor it, i do. But its bad to me because it really does feel like "gotta kill the autistic person". Its really annoying when shows try to have an autistic character and then mistreat them ( She Ra 2018 as well but Entrapta didn't die but she does get mistreated a lot ). Its annoying and hurtful. Especially with the writers and such teasing his fans so strongly. There was no reason to. Its not a spoiler.

The TALKS in between that we missed. Tech talking to Phee about Crosshair. Crosshair learning about Tech's Death from Omega. Omega talking to Emerie about her brothers. Crosshair coming back with Omega, we don't even see them just silently watching him walk into the ship. Its just nothing. I'm sure i am forgetting some because it happened, SO much during this season.

What happened to Cody. Like its fine if he's being saved for another series but then perhaps say that.

Creators do not have to be extremely secretive about everything. Fans who don't want spoilers don't go looking for it. I'm not implying they need to spoil the ENTIRE plot, but saying Tech is dead-dead is not something to be secretive about, An hour long finale is not something to be secretive about, etc.

The other Clone X's, while they are very very cool and supposed to mirror CF99... they weren't overly needed honestly. It felt so rushed. Like I'm not saying they needed to be someome either, they don't need to. But i wasn't fearful or full of impact when i saw them my genuine reaction was "this is too much now". It was like if they DID decide to put Darth Vader in it at last second. Like i fully believe Omega was supposed to be home with Crosshair for a little longer and help Echo and Rex with the clones. And then these new CX clones were supposed to show up in s4 and be the ones to get her again.

The fans.. would have wanted.. season 4?...... i don't know why its so bad to want that. And honestly atp, i don't get why its so bad to have plot filler. Its BAD for series that got canceled or shortened, but its not bad for a series that you want more of, because then you get more time with them or more lore if you're lucky.

It occured to me there was not one flash back. Not one about the past. The most was Omega talking about how she watched CF99 be made and that it implied shes older ( and is ) than them. Could you imagine the emotional impact on us and for Omega, watching her, watch them grow up. I don't think Rebels or TCW really had flash backs either but they usually did it in other ways.

I'm not like.. a good writer, so maybe writers on here will disagree and thats okay, I'm open to that.

TLDR: I'm tired of Cartoons kicking the bucket too soon for far too long. I feel like The Bad Batch s3 also had this treatment and it isn't fair to the fans.

[thisbelongsto-nohbodys]

My Top 12 TGaMM S2 songs (in no particular order)

Kinda like in Centaurworld, I found more songs in S1 than S2 that I liked but that's not to say that the songs weren't enjoyable. It's just a shame I won't be able to make a S3 list T_T

Anyways, here's my Top 12 TGaMM S2 songs in no particular order:

12. Frightful No More [A Doll to Die For]

It's great to hear Lord Hater again and a song that's an homage to "Everything's Coming Up Roses" (Gypsy) and "The Rain in Spain" (My Fair Lady)...at least that's what it make me think of.

11. It's Just Your Masterpiece in You [Faint of Art]

This episode was a pretty nice message on art block and a fear of failure that a lot of artists face, especially when they haven't done anything in years. I tend to procrastinate by snacking, which of course I can't draw with food fingers (even when using a napkin) so I gotta wait till it goes away, oh whoops, now the days ended, oh well, tomorrow...

10.Thai Culture Cram [100% Molly McGee]

A fun song showing the lengths that Molly is willing to go to learn half of her culture. Granted she didn't realize that this stuff takes time but she's on the right path.

9.Me & My Dad [Like Father, Like Libby]

Kid's who have an absentee parent def felt what Libby is singing about in this one. It just sucks when someone who should be important in your life, doesn't take it as serious as you'd wish they would.

8. Hit Restart [Perfect Day]

Gotta love how relaxed the singer is while describing the continuiously hectic attempts Molly and Scratch make at having a perfect first day of the year.

7. Identity Crisis [Davenport's in Demise]

It's a shame we didn't get more from Andrea this season, especially after this ep. I know we would've gotten her and Alina in S3 but still, I would've liked to see how her and Molly are friends

6. Maybe Next Time [The End] (Spoilers)

Scratch's backstory was a gut-punch, especially for those of us that feel like we're wasting our lives away. It does kinda remind me of a more sad version of "I Remember It Well" (Gigi)

5. Enjoy Your Afterlife [The New (Para)Normal]

A fun song with the Ghost Council about life after the Chairman's defeat that kinda reminds me of "Go Back to City Hall" in S1

4. You Got to Be Low-Key [The (After)Life of the Party]

Jinx is such a little shit in this song. Not to mention this was the ep that confirmed that Geoff and Jeff are married

3. Back to Misery [Jinx vs the Human World]

Gotta love a villain song. Just a shame we didn't get more.

2. Trying to Find [All in the Mind]

Love the abstract visuals of going through someone's mind and the soft vocals and instrumentals.

Honorable Mention 1: You've Been Jinxed [Jinx!]

Honorable Mention 2: Feeling Like MY Old Self Again/Small Town America [Kenny's Falling Star]

Honorable Mention 3: Happy Happy Death Day [The Many Lives of Scratch]

1.This House is Haunted [Frightmares on Main Street]

Love this homage to "Thriller" but it's also to see ghosts being able to let loose. A great Halloween special

As stated before, it's a shame that we won't get anymore eps but at least what we've gotten were great. Idk if I should do an overall list

[starryoak]

The swirls on this and the eyes are just. Fucking gorgeous. Brilliant. Wonderful. Horrifying, even.

Just a little nowhere king doodle

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Got bored and edited Rider's hair color.

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warning, centaurworld spoilers (season 2)

for cannon squicks: I HATE it when me, elktaur, and the general are referred to as the same person. The elk is technically a part of me so it's a bit easier being referred to as on with him, but he's still a PART of me. A PART. You argue about the technicality of if we are or not all you want. But I HATE it. A part of this is that I feel like I'm being used as an umbrella terms vs my own being. Like I'm the word you can use to describe all of them at once. I'm not the elktaur that separated himself into two, elk and human, then living two separate lives, with one becoming a dark and evil monster of a power ful beast which is where the name comes from. No, we are literally different people. I'm actually bearly a person. I am a void of loneliness and feeling like nothing with a destructive rage with an elk inside me that sometimes takes control. The fans can't seem to understand how much beauty there is to that. They think I am nothing without the creatures that created me, so they think we must be one is the same. It's stupid really. Actually I am nothing so lol. Or should I say "so that tracts? (Insert bad joke drum sound affect here) Something that is heavly related to above rant but is more of a me thing then a the canon what are you thinking thing is being referred to by he him pronouns. Like yeah elk's a guy, yeah elktaur's a guy, yeah the general's a guy and yeah my name's the nowhere KING, but it feels like belittling me and pushing me into a stupid gender binary that a monster made of hate should not be a part of, also is a shove to show that I'm treated like another elktaur variation. Not a being made out of dark magic hatred and loneliness. But a man. Honestly this is really sad because now no matter what I do to ease my gender dysphoria when it comes to being genderfluid (irl? Aka in a non otherkin related way except when I'm kingender, tho my kintypes do all have their own genders that feel like secondary genders that barely matter) I'll always have a WHOLE FANDOM misgendering me.😭

I am masc yeah, but in a demi or quarter sorta way not a full. Or like, at least not ONLY masc. It's the only being referred to by he him that gets me

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Anyway stay strong fictionkin who's gender is different from how the fandom perceives you and/or your canon gender!

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OH MY GOD LITTLE GUY!!!

(Spoilers for centaurworld season 2 episode 4!

HES SO ADORABLE AWWWWEEEE!!!

[simplegenius042]

[THIS REBLOG CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR THE CHARACTERS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE SOURCE MATERIALS]

Coming in first place for the worst character whose also one of my favorites, we've got:

The Nowhere King from Centaurworld. And I'd think that out of everyone in this list, you'd be correct. The Nowhere King himself had created an army of minotaurs and went on to start a war with his human-half, the General, while also attempting to destroy/commit genocide against the human world and Centaurworld, managing to successfully ravage the human world while destroying entire herds (including Wammawink's own), all because his human half got the life he wanted (and he was locked away for ten years in the worst solitary confinement which kind of made him crazy as the Elk). Now I don't necessarily count the General as the same entity as the NWK, he (and NWK) merely seperated from the same entity (the Elktaur), so I won't list his dubiousness.

In second and third place we've got:

2. Monika from Doki Doki Literature Club. And while yeah she did do some seriously awful shit, I will point out that there is a situational and psychological aspect to this. Yeah killing all your friends because you've been obsessing over a person not even in your reality is pretty shitty, but compared to the other characters in this list, Monika's pretty tame. There's two ways you can look at this: the first is that she (and her clubmates + the MC) are an A.I in a dating simulator, and therefore the world they live in is fake, so the harm she does is limited compared to other here, because she's not actually hurting people (just the emotional attachment we have to those characters), because she and the world she lives in with others aren't real. Now counterargument second POV is that since Monika has gained self-awareness to the point she knows she lives in a dating sim, it can be argued that she is alive, and since this self-awareness can pass onto the likes of Sayori (and presumably Yuri and Natsuki too), whether it makes them go insane like Monika or you get the golden ending and it just ends there, the others are alive enough to feel pain too, so yeah still shitty of Monika. But then comes the fact... as far as Monika had been concerned, she was the only one "alive". Self-aware and not entirely stuck to a script. She didn't know this self-awareness could pass on, and who knows how long she'd been in this state. And from what she's described about the fact when the game turns off, she's stuck in this state of torturous limbo (and considering this game probably takes hours and people do take breaks), she's been through this a lot. Still pretty selfish person, but stuck in a pretty isolating environment. And still, compared to everyone else on this list, she's pretty self-contained. Her only reality is the dating sim, and eventually she allowed herself to be deleted out of guilt and heartbreak while also rebooting the game so we could go on to play the game without her interfering (which is pretty sad, actually).

3. Alicent Hightower from House Of The Dragon. Now I've only seen Season 1, I haven't seen Season 2 yet, so I'm only going on the knowledge that I know. Also the books don't count, only the show. Alicent I'd say is the product of the environment she lives in, the historical time she is born in, the family ties she was raised by and the political views on women and their worth. So yeah, Alicent was not lucky from the start. Like she was pimped out to the king by her father at age 14 so that's already traumatic enough. I'd honestly say that she's not as bad as people make her out to be and in comparison to most others on this list. A lot that happens is out of her control, and when it's within her control, she neither has the entire story nor has any reason to disbelieve the story she's been given. Like, we can't just pretend most of the things she does is entirely her fault. Otto is the main contender in her fucked-upness. And regardless if she didn't hear or misinterpreted Viserys' last words, Otto was always going to ensure Rhaenyra wouldn't get her throne. Alicent's mistake just gave him the advantage. Is she entirely innocent? No, absolutely not... she's also not that good of a mother (which can be understood as generational trauma considering Otto doesn't teach her shit and Viserys was no help as usual). But is she consciously malicious? I disagree; she's trying to keep herself and her children alive, since Otto dumped her into this situation. I'm also going to make this very clear; Rhaenyra and Alicent are both not innocent but aren't entirely at fault for the Dance of the Dragons, as they were broken apart and used as pawns by the men they entrusted to help them and keep them safe. It's also a tragedy so that's the standard. So in other words, fuck Viserys, fuck Daemon, fuck Otto, and fuck Westeros in general. These two girls should have ran away on dragonback and eat cake across the seas. I feel bad for them and their kids. That might change in Season 2 who knows.

Now for everyone else:

4. Donna Beneviento from Resident Evil Village. Yeah she's 100% not a great person. One could argue that she is the product of Mother Miranda's experimentation and the fact she had a mental disability and trauma with Miranda taking advantage of her orphaned status could possibly mean she didn't have a choice in the matter really. Still doesn't change the fact that Donna & Angie had killed who knows how many people in her house of horrors. Plus psychologically torturing my boy Ethan and taking apart a baby is always gonna send ya to super hell.

5. Charlie Emily from Five Nights At Freddy's novels. Uh... okay? That's uh... definitely wrong LOL! Rude, insensitive and puts her friends lives in danger due to her impulses and obsessions? Yeah, sure. Like the worst things she does is breaking and entering so... That's a flaw she has, but like... I'd expect the least amount of votes on her honestly. Anyway, moving on.

5. Anton Castillo and Faith Seed from Far Cry 6 and Far Cry 5 respectively are a tie. And honestly yeah, that makes sense. Anton is a dictator of Yara utilizing slave labor and upholding fascism while grooming his teenaged son, Diego, into becoming as brutal as him (plus the fact he kills his son and himself in what is called an altruistic filicide-suicide to ensure his son doesn't experience what he went through as a child... a mercy in his eyes obviously, but one that could have been avoided if he simply trusted Dani to take Diego out of Yara and out of Libertad's hands). Faith Seed is one of Joseph's heralds (in the Henbane region) and his adopted sister (the third replacement at least). Throughout the game, Faith distributes Bliss to help Eden's Gate and keep their followers either calm or turn civilians into mindless labor workers/shock troops. Faith is also a manipulator and a liar, twisting words and people's perception of her to her advantage. While she definitely was innocent when Joseph took her in at 17 and helped transformed Rachel into Faith, she definitely isn't during the present game. She literally has Burke kill Virgil (and then himself) and almost got Whitehorse so far into the Bliss that he'd hang himself (if what the Deputy was seeing was true). Comparing whose in fact worse, I'd say Anton. He's at least aware what he's doing is evil but necessary and effective. While Faith, much like her brothers, believes in Joseph and think what they're doing is justified because the world's going to fucking end, so how wouldn't it be. But it's either one really. They both still suck.

6. Kiyotaka Ayanokoji and Ulysses from Classroom of the Elite and the Lonesome Road DLC of Fallout New Vegas. Two very traumatised individuals, however, I'd say Ulysses is worse. He's an adult male... Ayanokoji's like 15 in the most stressful highschool ever. Ayanokoji is the product of the White Room which is pretty terrible, so his suppressed emotions and manipulative tactics are results of Atsuomi's awful parenting, and the whole point of going to the ANHS is to challenge that. Meanwhile, though Ulysses has been converted to Caesar's Legion and been traumatised by the whole ordeal (plus several other things like the White Legs, Big MT, the Divide, etc), he still tried to blow up the NCR and the Legion with nuclear warheads and attempt to kill the Courier who either had unintentionally destroyed the Divide or never had done so in the first place.

7. Nobara Kugisaki from Jujutsu Kaisen. Okay, yeah she commits violence but usually it's towards people who deserve it, especially curses. She's pretty heroic.

8. Torrin from "Bad Travelling" in Love Death + Robots. Sacrificed his crew to a man eating crab? Sure. But counterargument! His crew was traitorous and were willing to let the man eating crab get to its desired destination to devour innocent people.

9. D'arce from Fear And Hunger. She should not be on the bottom of this list. I love her, but, she did commit war crimes and holy crusades for L'egarde. And Prehevil kind of fucked her up, you have to admit.

So yeah, in my opinion I think it should have been:

The Nowhere King

Anton Castillo

Faith Seed

Ulysses

Donna Beneviento

Monika

Alicent Hightower

D'arce

Torrin

Kiyotaka Ayanokoji

Charlie Emily

Nobara Kugisaki

Which of my Favourite Fictional Characters Is the Worst One?

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