#category: agabs

[mortelum]

Assigned Fungus at Birth (AFnAB)

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AFnAB: A neoAGAB for when one has been assigned a fungus at birth.

@radiomogai / @neoagab

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[revenant-coining]

ACoAB

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ACoAB; a neoAGAB where one is assigned confused/confusion/confusing at birth!

for anon!

tagging; @radiomogai

[nataref]

Been thinking on it more recently, and.. I'm so sick and tired of AGAB language and its substitutes. I'm sick of AGAB being used as a cudgel against transwomen, I'm sick of division and binaries, I'm sick of seeing people misattributing traits/behaviours to the genitals you are born with instead of attributing these traits/behaviors to societal structures and to the individual as a *human being* not "AMAB" not "AFAB" just human. Just a person. Because that's all any of us are. The only meaningful difference in human sexual dimorphism is how it impacts your reproductive capabilities & healthcare needs.

A trans man is abusive or toxic? Cool, thats because hes an asshole. Not because hes a transman. Anyone can be abusive or toxic. Its not attributable to his AGAB/Transition history/gender. He would be shitty either way.

A trans woman is sexist? Cool, its because shes a woman who happens to also be sexist. Alot of women are. It's not because of her gender, or her AGAB, or any other aspect of her gender identity. Guess what? Anyone can be sexist, it came free with your worldwide systemic misogyny. To single out a trans woman as being sexist *because she's trans* is transphobic. Shes sexist because shes a person who is sexist. Thats it thats the whole story case closed, can we all stop with this ridiculousness now?

My point being, the toxic traits and bigotry, whatever they might be, are NOT STORED IN THE GENDER. It is stored in the person. The individual, and the larger sociopolitical structures which enforce these ideas. The toxicity is stored in the human person in front of you, to try and endlessly argue otherwise betrays a tendency to dehumanize, degender, and categorize (usually trans) people. To see their behaviour as a reflection of a group rather than the reflection of that person, you know, the full human being you are talking to/about.

I just... I hate this. I want people to put their money where their mouths are and understand that gender being understood as rigid categories that largely dictate how a person behaves, looks, and feels, has always been the fucking root of the issue (transphobia, sexism, misogyny, intersexism, etc). I'm sick of boxes I'm sick of persistently being told who I am, and who other people are, because of AGAB. I'm sick of it in every form it takes. So sick in fact I've honestly decided from now on I'm never telling anyone who doesn't already know my AGAB what I was assigned. Because it doesn't fucking matter. It's never mattered.

And maybe, just maybe, if you don't get to pry that information out of me- and other trans folk- at every possible opportunity anymore, you'll start seeing me as a person first, and transgender second. A person with flaws and strengths, a person who is whatever way I am *because I'm me* and not because I'm part of whatever category you want to shove me into. And maybe, just maybe, it'll make some of you stop and actually seriously think "why do I even want to know so badly?"

Thats all rant over goodbye 🚶

[burinazar]

recently i've switched back to browsing the twitter feed of my old main acct since i had the impression the accts i followed there were more serious/political and would have more gaza info. and weirdly that isn't true? for some reason currently the feed on my fandom account (which has become my main at this point) has a lot more?....but what they *do* have on the old one's feed is tons of gender discourse stuff that make me feel stressed and bad

[apas-95]

the fact that so many people are still stuck on the 'gender and sex are separate, gender is Fake and can be whatever you want, but sex is real' thing is crazy. there's a lot of people who can talk the talk with AGAB terminology without understanding the point of said terminology, i.e. that gender, sex, et al are social categories justified with medicalisation, not the other way around. anyone who says 'biologically male' or 'biologically female' just believes, in a slightly more complicated way, that being transgender is a mental delusion, rather than a genuine analysis of and position in the social system of gender.

[vampiremogai]

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[PT: AVAB.

AVAB / Assigned Vampire At Birth: A xeno agab for those who were assigned vampire at birth.

Rq'd by anon. ^^ Don't tag as xenogender!

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( 🎀 ) :: ❝ AVAB ❞

— ❝ AVAB / Assigned Vampire At Birth ❞ :: ❝ A xeno agab for those who were assigned vampire at birth ❞

( 🎀 ) :: Rq’d by anon ^^ Don't tag as xenogender !

Please read my rentry before interacting ! Don't repost ! ♡

[our-queer-experience]

you do not need to know someones agab

you do not need to know someone’s genitalia

you do not need to know if someone is pre or post op

you do not need to treat gender and sex as opposite and irrefutable categories that determine anything about a person

you are not owed anything about a stranger’s body unless you are a doctor or in a situation where knowing what’s in someone’s pants is immediately relevant, like in a sexual context. it’s not appropriate to ask and you do. not. need. to. know.

[sodomit]

There are a lot of trans people who miss the relative comfort of being cis and try to re-generate the same sense of simplicity (often in a form of very rigid gender expectations or an us vs them mindset), and this isn't a phenomenon exclusive to any gender identity or gender assignment.

There are a lot of trans men embracing the trad-like strongman "defender of women" role and deriving gratification from hurting other trans men. There are a lot of trans women who embrace the "proud misandrist" role, often piling it up on top of unconfronted hatred towards the idea of "giving up womanhood". There are a lot of nonbinary people who aligned themselves with the artificial "non men" category and self-appoint as gatekeepers.

It is possible to talk about this phenomenon, about trans people having values rooted in cis values, without claiming these people are somehow identical to their cis counterparts (either by identity or by agab).

Don't lose sight of that.

[faint-petrichor]

gender/sex abolition is a very worthwhile thing to aim for, but it cannot be done by wishing it away--it is done through the full dissolution of the patriarchal system. based on that statement it sounds like we are far away from that, and that is indeed the case. and more crucially, it means this cannot be achieved by wishing it away and pretending it does not exist. transmisogyny, for example, is an institutional force that we are faced with every day. this is the exact value of tme/tma as terminology--not to reinforce a sex binary, but to describe an oppression by literally naming it directly.

i sympathize with the desire to be rid of amab/afab as labels. in a certain context there is value to this, where those labels have been used to repackage biological determinism. but discarding them fully is bound to fall short, because we are still bound to systemic (rather than biological) circumstances based on our agab. that is the arena of this terminology. if we were to discard them, we would discard a piece of essential language towards understanding the oppressions trans people face. to put it another way, whether we like it or not we are bound to these categories by hegemonic society, and to that end it is sometimes useful to name them. and while tme/tma is not a synonym for afab/amab, it exists for the same purpose. and all the same, if we did not have it we would be lacking a critical piece of language to describe oppression.

so when trans women use these terminologies to have critical discussions about transmisogyny, we aren't trying to reassert the gender binary or biological determinism. we are trying to have critical discussions about transmisogyny! something we cannot solve by pretending it does not exist.

[mortelum]

Assigned Mushroom at Birth (AMushAB)

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AMushAB: A neoAGAB for when one has been assigned a mushroom at birth.

@radiomogai / @neoagab

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[revenant-coining]

AAltHAB

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AAltHAB; a neoAGAB where one is assigned alterhuman at birth!

for anon!

tagging; @radiomogai

[hiiragi7]

Reminder that y'all should just say what you mean instead of "AFAB" or "AMAB".

If you are referring to penises, say penis.

If you are referring to having a period, say the word period.

If you are referring to being raised female or male, say that.

If you are referring to the ability to get pregnant, say that.

And so on, and so on, and so on.

The terms "AFAB" and "AMAB" do not tell you anything about a person's reproductive, hormonal, or chromosomal profiles. It does not tell you what body parts they have. It does not tell you anything about their life experiences or what gender they were raised as.

Using "AFAB" and "AMAB" as if they are synonymous with [perisex] "female" and "male" excludes intersex and trans people. Using the terms "AFAB" and "AMAB" in this way is only recreating the sex binary of female and male but masking it as more progressive when it really isn't. Just say what you really mean.

There are trans people who have the same equipment as a cis person of the "opposite" assigned sex. There are intersex people who were assigned a sex at birth while having completely different internal reproductive organs or hormones, or who were raised as a different gender than the sex they were assigned at birth.

There is no such thing as "AFAB" or "AMAB" experiences. AGAB language only describes what you were assigned at birth. It says nothing about your body or your life experiences.

I know that people tend to shy away from using direct language when talking about anything related to sex (even as it relates to biology and not anything actually sexual) but using the actual terms for these things isn't bad. It's extremely counterproductive to movements to view sex as a fluid and broad category when you use AFAB and AMAB as if they are anything more than a sex designation given at birth.

[cyprozombiegirl]

The Truth About Biological Sex: It’s made up and the three things they use to define it are whack

So obviously your gender is whatever the fuck you feel like it is. But also it’s important to remember biological sex is just a made up category and not only is it made up but it’s made up of 3 determining characteristics: chromosomes, genitalia, and hormones. Chromosomes are initially very important in sexed development because they function sorta like a map for the direction your body figures it is gonna take. But that’s all they are, a map, a plan. There’s a reason no one really checks them, because why would you, they only tell you what the body was initially intending to do, and you can see what the body has done right in front of you so why would you need to check what it intended to do. Second is genitals, which are changeable and very similar to each other. They’re important in child creation but beyond that they’re largely swappable and made of the same tissue etc. Then there is hormones, these MFs are important, cause they basically regulate ever other sexed aspect of your body and even can make that oh so unimportant chromosomal map change its course. Because of this, many many countries correctly, or at least sorta correctly (more on this in a minute), realize that after awhile on HRT most people’s bodies begin functioning on a microscopic level like the gender they are, and not their AGAB, and that treating them as if they still are the sex they used to be is medically dangerous and inaccurate. Thus these countries let you change your sex on your health information (and other info). However it is worth noting that while this is absolutely medically necessary, it can feel weird saying that it is which hormones your body is currently processing that determines your sex, since they’re are so many aspects to hormones that feel very detached from some definition of sex. Like does my sense of smell being better or being more sensitive to physical touch really have anything to do with sex? Isn’t that just hormones? Which is why I said it’s only semi correct for these countries to say that hormones make sex, since they do so much more than sex too, making it really seem like nothing is actually biological sex. It’s like looking under a ghost’s sheet and finding nothing at all. But regardless, it is very clear that if anything is sex it is definitely not chromosomes and if it is anything at all, which I don’t really think it is, it is hormones.

[wolvesbaneandbuttercups]

imma be real, I hate the terms TMA and TME. It divides trans people much in the same way AGAB does (which, ur assigned gender at birth is honestly imo only important for doctors to know), yes trans women and trans men and nonbinary folk all face seperate flavors of misogyny, but instead of dividing it up on "who has it worse" Trauma Olympics™️ style we should work together to uplift eachother instead of creating a divide away from eachother. Stop dividing us up into categories based around who experiences the "Worse" oppression, because we fucking all face it and we all are fucking dying!! Community infighting makes this shit worse.

Trans women get killed because of transphobia

Trans men get killed because of transphobia

Nonbinary people get killed because of transphobia

Instead of TME/TMA labels why don't we, idk, fucking help eachother not die???? Instead of creating labels like those and fighting over it fucking help eachother instead, dosnt matter what flavor of trans you are because to the transphobics and TERFs we're all dirty trannies.

Uplift eachothers voices, stop putting eachother down with pointless community infighting and trauma olympics

[a-polite-melody]

“AFAB trans women can’t exist and the fact that people are bringing up intersex people to counter that shows you think that intersex people can’t have been AMAB.”

Plus, that this argument is even being tried does actually show, by nature of the argument itself, that you think that the sorting of intersex people into AGAB categories should determine their ability to be trans in certain gender directions, which is one of the things intersex people are trying to get across is happening.

Like. The argument quoted at the top of this post implies that of intersex people, only AMAB intersex trans people can be trans women/fem, and then also that only AFAB intersex trans people can be trans men/masc, and that AFAB intersex trans women’s and AMAB intersex trans men’s very existences or support of their existence means you think the other isn’t a type of intersex person or doesn’t exist.

Stop shoving biological determinism onto intersex conversations around gender and how that intersects with transness as some sort of “gotcha” to shut them up.

[transgenderpolls]

*such as between those who transition more "fully" and those who only change their identity, or between the different flavors of trans, etc