#cap4

[griefpersevering]

happy valentines day!!! bucky barnes just said i love you to sam wilson on screen

[koryuoftheriverflow]

I got to see the new Cap for free yesterday (my friends kind of do previews and recs), so here's my 2 cents.

Spoiler below the cut

First and foremost, I'm Team Cap through and through. The Cap movies are some of the most compelling of the MCU and Winter Soldier is, hands down, their best release.

Brave new world certainly follows in their footsteps and it's a well done movie, especially compared to some of Marvel's most recent films. I honestly don't get where the criticism is coming from.

It's political, it wants to send a message and it does it fairly well.

It's well paced, the plot is entertaining without being convoluted, it doesn't last for an eternity (maybe it could do with another 15 minutes, but it didn't feel too rushed), the director does his job, nothing too fancy, but it works. The cgi could have been better? Yes, it was a little wobbly, but not so much as to take me out of the movie.

The character of Isaiah certainly has a tough time, and the scene of his conversation with Sam from behind the glass in prison is a hard one to watch. The actor does a marvelous job of portraying the struggle, the despair this characters is going through, once again unjustly accused and condemned, a symbol of a far larger issue of American society and history.

Harrison Ford, too, does a good job with a character that isn't well loved and we see Ross, in his old age, struggle with guilt and loneliness (Betty hasn't spoken to him in years), but at the same time old habits die hard and he does get autoritative unnecessarily and is prone to rage (and not only for the pills) in his desperate effort to keep others (and himself) under his control.

The side characters didn't emerge as much, in my opinion, neither Sabra nor the villain, Sterns. Esposito steals the scene in his few minutes of screentime.

Jaquin is there both as a reminder of what Sam could potentially lose (and it's not a coincidence that we see a photo of Riley in Sam's office) and as a comic relief, although, and that's honestly one of the things I have appreciated the most, the movie is a sombre one and it never stumbles into inappropriate and useless humor: there's friendly banter in a few scenes, but it never interrupts important moments with ill-timed jokes.

Last, but not least, our new Cap: this movie picks up where we left off after TFATWS. Sam has taken the mantle, but he's still coming to terms with his role and the legacy of that shield. He's not Steve, he doesn't have the serum, but the thing that made Cap great isn't the super strenght...it never was. Bucky, who we see briefly in a cameo (and I swear, since they decided to go down this politician route, if they give me anything less than Barnes, hero of the proletariat, i will be pissed), serves as a reminder that he is worthy. Not because Sam is strong in body, but in conviction. He's someone who people can look up to, he's the common man that fights for what he believes is right, for the weak and the oppressed, who brings the truth to the surface and justice to those who have been wronged.

Like Mackie said, Cap doesn't rapresent America as it is (Steve, and Sam with him, for 2 movies have been uncompromisingly anti government), but portrays universal values, such as integrity and equality.

And of course... it's an american movie, we see it through those lenses, but we finally have a black Captain America, someone who really can become an inspiration to a lot of people.

Let's appreciate that and see where this is headed.

[georgiapeach30513]

Take this with a HUGE grain of salt, but I think I know why there’s “reshoots” for Brave New World

[staying-elive]

Yeah, that's my problem.

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[caps4m]

my feelings on the cap4 movie are so confusing and mixed, on one hand I’m so excited for it and to see Sam especially as Cap and I get so excited seeing Anthony’s photos on set. on the other, all the news and rumors I see on it make me so scared because it truly feels like this is not a sam movie. adding to that the feelings I’ve had for years related to the fact that marvel has not promoted Cap Sam and has in fact kept him hidden despite him taking over one of the most iconic mantles in the universe, I’m just so afraid of this movie and what they’re gonna do, I think marvel has ruined the excitement and the Cap Sam experience for me.

[piepeloe]

Captain America 4: Brave New World

This was a solid, enjoyable movie. I did not check my watch once, which these days with Marvel is saying something.

A lot of the visuals were amazing and in broad daylight too, so none of that nebulous grey to hide the CGI. The fights were excellent and never dragged too long. The performances were good, plot made sense, etc. Nothing too quippy either!

You could really tell they were trying to bring that CATWS vibe. and that might be my biggest issue.

For one, some of the plot points were straight from that movie, like up until halfway (I'm guessing, like I said, I didn't check my watch) it really followed the major beats of CATWS.

Two...It's a solid movie, I can't say anything too bad about it, but there's nothing outstanding about it either. And to then have the big comparison be (one of) the best MCU movie(s), it's rough.

A few more spoilery things behind the cut: mainly 'any Bucky?' and 'any post-credit scenes?'.

Is Bucky in it? Yes, for one scene. It's a pretty good one, nice heartfelt talk. Clear they're still friends though not so clear why they're not working together.

Apparently Bucky is running for Congress? Which is wild for several reasons. I mean, I completely agree he wouldn't choose to do the superhero thing, but politics? Wtf? Also raises more questions about his next movie.

One line Sam has in this scene that bugged me: He regrets not taking the serum 'like Steve, like you' (meaning Bucky). And like, Bucky didn't choose the serum? Lots of people including Isaiah didn't. And even those who did often wind up regretting it. Hell, I'm not sure even Steve was still happy with this choice.

I don't know, he repeats the sentiment a few times. I'm going to choose to believe it's just a reminder to the casual audience that he's a regular human.

Oh, and Sam has this shelf full of pics with his friends and he does have one with Bucky. Though it is very clearly Anthony and Sebastian which somehow is hilarious to me.

Are there post-credit scenes? There's one, waaaaay at the end. It's mostly hype for the upcoming multiverse stuff. If you can, stay, but if you really need to pee or catch the last bus or something, it's fine to leave.

[susieandhobbes]

Aaaaand now there's no Bucky and no Stackie press tour

Just a Malcolm Spellman script (*shudder*) and Captain Israel

Ok I also have concerns about a Malcolm Spellman Cap 4 but the good news is a post-COVID Anthony and Sebastian press tour

And I will forgive a LOT for that

[arglebergle]

No es posible sostener la pasión, el fuego,q un grado tan febril en asuntos que se prolongan demasiado

-Cianuro Espumoso, [libro primero] cap VI

[griefpersevering]

if you would like your captain america brave new world with an extra side of sambucky emotional hurt/comfort, you might want to take a peek at my ao3🤭

[tllgrrl]

Wrote it. Broke it. Shot it.

They didn’t have the time (1-2 more episodes) they needed to show us the love story that was planned, but look what they gave us with two wonderful actors and what they were able to convey in 30 Seconds, 5 Words, and 3 Lines.

Excuse me?? TFATWS writers broke an entire Bucky/Sarah love story!?! 👀👀 WHOLE DAMN LOVE STORY!! Sir, we're going to need you to show the whole Bucky/Sarah story in the next Cap movie.

For me, episode 6 always felt like some time had past since the events in NY. Originally the series was 8 episodes, so I believe the 2 episodes would have shown Bucky going to Louisiana in-between working thru his book while Sam was away doing Cap things, and Bucky & Sarah's relationship developed. It would explain why Bucky and the boys are closer and so playful with each other. This is just my take on how it may have played out. But, it just makes you wonder what is in the BuckySarah cut footage. 👀

*This is just the section where he talks about Bucky/Sarah. The full interview with Malcom Spellman about writing TFATWS series can be seen on the Writers Guild Foundation youtube channel.

[georgiapeach30513]

https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1786410975429542243?s=46&t=JEE8bXwlTh95dJGRahhvIw

Yes. Yes. More of this!!!

[staying-elive]

The amount of characters and plots that are rumoured to be in Captain America New World Order is getting more ridiculous by the day.

First every Hulk character they can think of. Now Valentina? And Serpent Society?

Why?!

We can all agree right that the Valentina scenes in Wakanda Forever were the least interesting, only there for set-up, wastes of time, yeah?

I know some of these are still just rumours. But still...

Give me rumours about what Sam and Joaquin and the Bradleys are up to.

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