#cantharus

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drew an (unnaturally pink) cantharus shell as a warm-up yesterday

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Attack on Cantharus

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"Sky Cruise", "Make Room for Us" Six N Five Concept, "Cantharus" by Darin Oborne

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Lover’s Declaration II

Soldappled courtyard open-aired, a vast cantharus spits

Rarified air courtly peacocks plume-haired share with

Recalcitrant barbary apes from far Abyssinia, split-haired

Palm trees hoarding hirsute spheroids, pomes with plums grappling

Adorning weakling child changeling limbs of saplings

Gradients made such that all drainage is tasted, without wastage

And no vestige of fungible, fertile earth should sit unturned

Save those in rest earned, biphasic restful rotation, and turnips!

Parsnips like pale goblin sniffers, zit-decked slipperwort loud as an epistle

And tumescent, bee-ridden thistles imperial betwixt indecorous angober

Brindled ackerons, Abraham’s Balm willows, fronded cycads, apricot

Dryad-throning pale grisettes beset by indentions

Priapic sumac lustily intention’d

Drizzles of nameless colour canalling between rockeries; no corner dull

Steroid to easeful feeling, place pleasing

Rille’d plentiful fertility, ’tis sterility’s antipode

Of lush abundance, verdant virility, rare mode.

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Anon, I think it really is a case of lost sources!

I received this ask and I really wanted to answer it, so I started a draft of an answer with all the Patroclus sources I find. And as incredible as it may seem, there is more than I imagined! I couldn't even include everything because many only have it in Greek and I definitely don't understand Greek, and yet there is more than I expected.

What happens is that these sources are mainly mentions of versions! Like, I found myth traditions involving Patroclus in encyclopedias like Pseudo-Apollodorus Bibliotheca and among the reviews of texts Photius made in his own Bibliotheca. I also found more of his traditions in comments by scholiasts, but they apparently aren't translated as I only found them in Greek (scholiasts' comments are very important. Many things we call "fragments" today came from scholiast sources, even Hesiod fragments for example). But if you don't know Greek, it's very unlikely you'll read them, so I'm not surprised they're not very well known (believe me, I used SO MANY translators to finally understand what was going on. God knows how automatic translation Greek/English and Greek/ Portuguese can be horrible). We also have more quick mentions of Patroclus or his relatives from people like Plutarch.

I also think that not ignoring the Byzantine period helps to have more content, because there were myth scholars in the Byzantine Empire, so certain myths are found in sources from that time (such as comments by some scholiasts or even Photius' reviews, for example). There are also versions of myths in non-mythological texts because people mention them (a famous example: Plato mentioning Aeschylus' Achilles Trilogy in Symposium, but there are others)

In other words, Patroclus actually HAS myths linked to him outside of Homer because people kept mentioning them in ancient texts, but we simply don't find them in plays or poems, for example!

I find it difficult that no one considered writing something related to his family because it seemed to me that the ancient Greeks liked to write about different myths and not just about a specific group (I mean, see how Euripides alone has lost pieces and pieces of different characters: Medea, Andromeda, Hippolytus, Herakles, Electra, Ion, etc). I also don't think that not having something today is the same as it never having existed, see how the myth of the Labyrinth is immensely popular, but strangely there are no specific plays or poems for this story although we do have it in encyclopedias and in mentions of other stories. And there's no way to say "it's popular today, not in the past" because Theseus is a frequently cited hero and Ariadne is well remembered and she's also married to a very important god (Dionysus). There are many texts on mythological topics we don't know, for example when we talk about "Medea" we think of Euripides, but Neophron, Dioneges of Athenas (see § del.1142), Cantharus of Athenas (see § ka.309) and others also wrote plays with this name.

The Greeks put a lot of effort into preserving their texts and it's surprising that they managed to keep texts from the Archaic Era such as the Homeric poems, but it's impossible preserve everything, especially with so many historical events that resulted in the loss of cultural artifacts. Another factor is that whether a text has been preserved also depends on how copied it was… texts that were rarely copied were much less likely to survive today. This is why we have plays by famous tragedians like Euripides, Aeschylus and Sophocles, but few by other people.

Note: I still doubt his character would have much content without Achilles, if what you're looking for is something like "for the love of god is there anything about Patroclus that doesn't involve Achilles" because they met early and, like it or not, the mythological main role of Patroclus involves Achilles.

Do you think Patroclus is Homer's self-insert OC? No but for real, the Iliad is like Avengers Endgame level universe crossover of Greek mythology. Why isn't Pat in more stuff?

Lol!!! Patroclus as Homer's self insert is so funny actually, like yeah who DOESN'T want to be the underdog that somehow manages to very dramatically steal the show and change the course of an entire war 🤣 mary sue behaviour right there

I have often wondered why Patroclus isn't in more things myself. Like most of the heroes in the Iliad come from myths even older than the Iliad, and their lore just kept expanding after the Iliad was composed. Like you have SO much stuff about Achilles and Agamemnon and others, not to mention Odysseus; you have extensive Iliad fanfic about the most minor Trojan characters imaginable (looking at you Virgil); you have all those later myths that have the main heroes' offspring doing things and going on adventures and killing/maiming people....... but nothing about Patroclus. Zilch. Nada. And it's just so bizarre to me. Like Patroclus is an awesome character if you think about it. He was probably invented only for the purpose of shifting the narrative of the Iliad, of bringing about Achilles' grief and rage because Achilles' death has to be as dramatic and intense as possible, but I don't think that's reason enough to not include him in any other myths.

An answer to this could be that there are a lot of myths and stories that simply didn't stand the test of time. Like we know for a fact that Patroclus makes an appearance in some ancient greek tragedies, but the fragments remaining do not have any of his lines, or we only have the summaries of those plays by later authors who didn’t go into too much detail about his role in the plays. Another answer could be that Patroclus' existence as a character is very closely tied to Achilles', but whenever Achilles appears in a myth or play or story, he tends to eclipse every other character and draw the attention on himself. So the people who later preserved those stories in writing simply didn't bother to include Patroclus. But that also bears the question: why didn't Patroclus capture the people's imagination more, the way Menelaus or Nestor or even Neoptolemus do? I really don't know. If anyone has a better answer than this, I'd love to hear it.

Thank you so much for this ask!

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“Cantharus” by Darin Oborne

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Nejire Colab

I sketched it

@skeletordraws lined it

@cantharus colored it

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The name for this genus of mushrooms is Canthaellus which comes from the greek word “cantharus” that is a goblet like cup with a similar basic shape. You’ll probably be more likely to know their common name: Chanterelles! They’re one of a edible mushroom forager’s favorite finds but are not to be confused with their poisonous look-a-like: the jack o’lantern mushroom. Chanterelles are a mycorrhizal fungi, meaning that they form symbiotic relationships with plants to grow, which makes them difficult to cultivate outside of their wild environments. These glass ones I’ve made don’t have that problem. 😁

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Christmas art for @cantharus

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http://www.intotheblue.it/2019/09/22/tanuta-cantaro-spondyliosoma-cantharus/

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Parsnips like pale goblin sniffers, zit-decked slipperwort loud as an epistle

And tumescent, bee-ridden thistles imperial betwixt indecorous angober

Brindled ackerons, Abraham’s Balm willows, fronded cycads, apricot

Dryad-throning pale grisettes beset by indentions

Priapic sumac lustily intention’d

Drizzles of nameless colour canalling between rockeries; no corner dull

Steroid to easeful feeling, place pleasing

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A sculpture titled 'Cantharus Shell (Etched Glass Sea Shell Wall statue)' by sculptor Timothy Carter. In a medium of Glass, Slate, Stainless Steel.