#caitlyn thinks shes dead

[justaz]

Post s2, Jinx travels the world (what’s the name?? Runeterra?? Right?) and cons her way into free rooms and food by claiming her name is Caitlyn Kiramman. Look me in the eye and tell me I’m wrong. Piltover became a global trading post and the Kirammans were already a wealthy and renowned family before. Being Jayce’s sponsor and Piltover being put on the map bc of Hextech and Caitlyn being dictator leader of Piltover for some time also made her name carry a bit of weight. But no one’s really seen her??? All they know is she’s pretty and has blue hair. Jinx just plays the dead mom card when being questioned (“I just had to see some of the world…as my mother always talked about when she was still alive…😔”) and people just let her be and give her what she wants.

Stories of the odd Kiramman girl spreads all the way back to Piltover and people make jokes at Caitlyn and Vi and they’re just like “???? Wtf are you talking about??” And then people have to explain and that’s how Vi finds out her sister is still alive, bc she’s shitting all over the Kiramman name by just. Being her. And pretending to be Caitlyn. While being herself. “Caitlyn Kiramman” isn’t as fearsome as it was before anymore bc now people just associate the name with Jinx and her chaos rather that the Caitlyn Kiramman

[ehushuun]

Arcane season two was just tears, homoerotic rivals, healing sibling rivalry, with a dash of this bitch

[graythursday]

thinking about the pain of knowing there’s a place out there where things are different, but not having the power to make them that way in your own world. ultimately, these two have to live without the other. powder has her ekko but ekko lost his powder. she gets to live her life alongside him, but is burdened with the knowledge that there is another version of him out there alone, and this version herself destroyed. meanwhile ekko must live his life with everyone he cared about gone. all the people he grew up alongside have died or moved on; changed into people he no longer recognizes. he gave everything to save everyone, did what he could to reconcile with jinx, and managed to rekindle a spark in her, only to lose her again. and so he goes to the last place he got to be with her, in this other world, and tries to pretend that it’s the first time.

[brionysea]

tagged by @zannolin in a get to know me game!

last song: eat your young by hozier

favourite colour: rainbows (this means nothing) (<- lying)

last book: technically I'm reading 3 different books at all times but percy jackson & the sea of monsters is the most recent

last movie: elf

last show: arcane s1 as well

sweet/spicy/savoury: sweet? my first thought was tangy like sour sweets (candy, for the confused americans) (sour patch kids to be precise) for some reason

relationship status: no thank you :)

last thing i googled: an up and coming video game studio's website called republicgames. it's founded by the co-writer on detroit: become human who WASN'T david cage and all the people who actually made that game good are jumping ship which is very funny to me

current obsession: the small arcane s2 fix-it fic I'm writing where jinx actually acts jinxy. I love her so much she's like 'wow sevika this whole revolution thing of yours is so lame they never do anything. I was doing more when I was seven. believe in yourself losers <3' and everyone's like 'wow... the scary girl says to believe in ourselves... we should set something on fire' her power is unmatched. on second thought my answer might just be 'jinx' but this is more fun

looking forward to: ummmmm ? ???? ?? continuing my arcane s1 rewatch I guess? OH and finishing my s1 jinx photoset, it's like 99% done and I'm just messing around with the text positioning at this point but ugh it's so good. I love it. I love jinx and being creative about jinx it's what she deserves

tagging: @evergreen-lyricist @blueskiesandstarrynights @crashed-wing @agrebel18

[spooky-lord]

im already seeing people saying caitlyn isnt overreacting by committing war crimes bc her mom is dead. god is testing me specifically

[ashleyishere24]

honestly so glad that it’s not the other way around

Bc ofc becoming a cop wouldn’t help you with THAT trauma

and ofc being a cop would only cause you to spiral into aggression and alcoholism with no regard for your own or others safety

oh and the whole lesbian situationship really didn’t help

[theskyexists]

Honestly, sucks that vi never gets a break.

[lazanhaazeda]

One thing I find interesing abt Vi, is the fact that, she seems like she haven't grown up since her's 15.

Like, yes, she is a adult now, but her mind seems to not have developed properly due to trauma, making her stuck in that moment in the finale of act one of season one, Vander's death, Milo and Claggor's death, the shock of everything being her own sister's fault, she didn’t even had the time to process this bc she saw her sister last with the same man who was very willing to kill them, got kidnapped and then enjailed for 7 fucking years.

LIKE DAMN. And this surely brought several consequences to her brain, how she acts is typically with violence, impulsivity, without a racional thinking and being emocional about things, like a child, and im not saying in a derogatory way towards her, i'm saying that she didn’t had any opportunity to interact normally with people, to develop these type of skills and learn.

Vi likes to see things in a simple way, she thinks that she can resolve things just punching her way out or by just talking, because she never had any other chance to understand any other way.

She lives for protecting, simple as that, because that's the only thing she lived for in all those years in prison. That's why she even accepted Caitlyn's way of doing things as a enforcer, ofc she is wrong but, oh my girl how manipulated you are. How much of yourself you use for others because you can't lose anyone else.

And she realizes in season one, after fighting in the Shimmer's factory with Jayce, how much she lost of her own humanity, to not feel anything for a dead child now, she saw how vulnerable and broken for this is Jayce (that's why I think their relation important, because Jayce is all abt vulnerability and being open minded, learning to make a better future)

And Vi in the first act of season two is so vulnerable now, different of season one, because now she truly understands she lost Powder, she has no one, except the girl she thinks she could have saved the mother, spared the pain she herself understands. And even if it isn't intentional of Cait (which sometimes I doubt, because she threw all her morals out of the window in the first act), she manipulates Vi with her needs for a constant and fear of abandonment.

The way she acts with Caitlyn, is how she wishes she have been treated all these years, affection, understanding, tenderness. The thing she needs to be rebembered until act two, it's that Cait comes from a totally different environment, and the ruthlessness she wish Cait shouldn't experience, its exactly the reality shock she needs right now.

Vi is a really cool character in all ways I wish people could see, she isn't a "just", the way the turned to be all that she hated out of desperation for love is a tragedy. And yeah I love the memes with her stupidity but PLEASE see my vision when I say that my girl deserves more :(((

[peepeepoopoomonster69420]

doodle dump

[iminaworldofpureimagination]

with the hate going around towards caitlyn from arcane it got me thinking about how male characters like lets go with a character in trauma/pain who hurts people bojack horseman my fav males btw.. it got me thinking how often male characters will get passes for their crimes but a woman character doing anything terrible =irredeemable. I've seen this done with zuko/ while mai is villianized in the atla fandom despite him doing far worse. now me I can admit that my male favs have SUCKED and have been trash people.. and i think caitlyn herself has done unforgiveable things to which she said so herself bascially 'no ammount of good deeds can undo our crimes." but the idea she is just a monster and not deserving second chances just further solidifes how people love problematics men but problematic woman.. no second chances..

if ya ask me this is how we end up with boring woman in live action remakes.. natla katara she didn't get to steal from piriates she didn't get to be angry she was made passivie and barely there. because women need to be seen as flawless or risk getting hate. people get to afraid to make woman have flaws/do bad things that they take away anything that made em human and just have em be good and nothing else when humans aren't built that way we aren't built to be perfect to always behave rationally. we are emotionally made creatures. . I see bojack and caitlyn two characters in pain with trauma hurting people and while there are some haters most of my fandom knows how to approach his character with understanding while not make excuses for all his terrible actions. .. while with caitlyn she's just evil /hitler and deserves to be punished. despite losing an eye something she was proud of being a sharp shooter.. or its the did nothing wrong camp which is also untrue.. I've noticed with . how women get treated in fandoms compared to men who get excused for shit.. is just so lame.

im convinced people hoped caitlyn would stay soft/naive/hopeful towards zaun but ignore her being kidnapped/having a parent killed by her sorta girlfriend sister is ignored/ a imagine being kidnapped while naked.. as if that wont affect your mental state.. people think she should stay the same.. but she was going to change due to all that trauma. . trauma changes ya and not for the better just ask jinx..

if one woman character can have trauma and hurt people and be beloved i dont understand the hate for cait bec really her/jinx are two sides of the same coin. traumatized woman/dead parents/ who hurt people.. jinx hurt zaunites she killed them ekkos friends the firelights.. zaunites./ Caitlyn gassed them did they die? its unclear. but to act like one is excuable and the other s a monster.. nah both are rather similar .. and thats kinda intersting to ponder about. i myself think none of these young women are monsters but just hurt people doing bad things that can be given second chances..

[bronzewool]

if i had a nickel for every time a company cancelled their top rated lesbian cartoon and the animators had exactly one season to wrap up what was clearly meant to be a five season storyline, I'd have two nickels...

[deus-and-the-machina]

arcane fandom is really making me double down on getting sick of people having an aversion to the parts of a character that make them bad people. That shit is my favorite part, watching characters get worse is fascinating when written well and I don’t get why people’s first instinct is to jump to defend them. Sometimes it can even get real uncomfortable, like saying “oh complex female character you can’t handle” in response to a character doing POLICE BRUTALITY is uh. Well it’s very tone deaf. You don’t need to downplay that shit to like her or find her fascinating

[captaindanvers89]

I don’t think Jinx is dead. Like Caitlyn’s looking at the Hexgate plans and she sees the air ducts plus that smile. She knows Jinx escaped plus Vi being somewhat content? Idk, plus the ending with the airship, Jinx left Zaun for good.

[cl-0v3r]

Mel is alive, but at what cost

Mel was nearly killed TWICE, her mother began being a struggle, she'd been thrown aside and trying her best to stop her, her boyfriend is not doing well, neither is anyone else (can't blame them) and the fact that she hadn't cried or spoke much about this situation to anyone a single time?? She IS upset about every single thing, yet she stays strong and enduring every bit of torture. The most she did was tell Jayce that Ambessa put her palm on the table, and let him know that she is going to push for hextech. That's it, nothing remotely related to her feelings.

The fact that she was constantly looking at Caitlyn, being able to understand her grief and knew she was in pain?? Mel knows this feeling. She'd went through it.

And in the end SHE has to pay the price of her mothers incompetence.

The intro is very much foreshadowing, we know the hands represent black rose/LeBlanc.

This is what happens in act one, she gets kidnapped by them. The lyrics do correspond to the characters as well (not just Mel, everyone.)

"Tell you you're the greatest" plays as a petal of the black rose floats down the screen, I think it adds significance to the power this organization holds, possibly the Medardas greatest foe.

"But once you turn, they hate us" both Ambessa and Mel were present in this line, I think its foreshadowing for when Ambessa switches up for whatever reason and goes against both Piltover AND Zaun. And Mel WILL go through change as well, a change that could hurt her relationship with others, and receive interest from others too.

"They hate us" could be read individually too, I feel like its a sort of "realization" ?? Perhaps Ambessa WASN'T the one that switched up, maybe Piltover switched up on them, and maybe Mel JUST got out of wherever she's taken to, and saw the mess Ambessa had done to her city??

I think this represents ACT TWO.

The hands pull away and it sort of looks like Mel is fighting back, a "get away from me" type of scream. you know what this reminds me of??

Don't mind me just pushing my Jinx/powder-Mel parallel agenda

Here is when i think Mel truly learns about LeBlanc/BR, she curiously and slowly goes to grab the rose, she learns about the history between her Mother and them, Kinos death, and most of all, learns about HERSELF. The lyrics speak otherwise.

"Pray away, I swear

I'll never be a saint, no way"

This feels like a parallel to caitlyn of sorts if that makes sense. Caitlyn had done everything to try and stop the council from attacking the Undercity, she kept her mouth shut when Jayce asked about Jinxs grenade, she was willing to protect Vi and the undercity, but how many times has she been tossed around? She'd been burned, exploded, kidnapped (god knows what happened during that time) and hit in the face by the same person, her MOTHER died because of the same person. She has every right to go insane. And she is hunting ONE person, which is Jinx. Although she is harming the people around her along the way.

What if Mel goes through a similar situation? Her mother pushed for war in her city, she dragged the enemy along with her even if she didn't mean to, she manipulated everyone around her INCLUDING Jayce, she LITERALLY got Mel hurt from the chembarons attack and killed so many people during a MEMORIAL to get her hextech weapons, Elora is most likely DEAD, not to mention whatever happened in the past between them. And the thing is, this will NEVER end throughout the entire season.

And what if she learns what she is? That she's 'blessed' by Kindred? The fact that the wolf is quite literally in her blood?

I feel like the "ill never be a saint, no way" also sort of indicates Mel will realize she'll never be able to push for peace and mercy like she always hoped for no matter what, and she comes to accept that as much as it hurts. But not like how ambessa accepted the wolf, but she sort of realizes she needs to push a little violence, towards nobody but the one and only, Ambessa "fine, if you want me to be like you, I guess I'll be like you towards YOU." Type of acceptance.

I think its also related to Mels new outfit too, she's dressed like her mother, in red and all of that. I will still stand by the idea that she has plans to decieve, but she will do something she doesn't want to do.

Mel was left with no choice, that lyric sounds like realization, acceptance, but also like a plea at the same time, an "I'll never be who I wanted to be" because in the end, she's still a Medarda, she's still her mothers daughter, she still has violence in her veins, she will never not suffer from the weight her name holds, and she will never escape it either, its like a shadow.

The Characters won't be themselves at their core this season. And those vital parts of their characters that represent them are no longer there in the intro, they all have given up what makes them, THEM design wise. (e.g.) Vi without her tattoo, Viktor hiding his identity with the mask. And the thing is, they did that to themselves because they do self-harm, they're changing themselves because THEY want to, they're forcing themselves to do that, they think they're undeserving and they're erasing their past selves.

But Mel? Mel doesn't have her gold accessories, Jewelry, or her Armor, she'd been stripped bare and hidden away because of the brutality of her name. She pays the price her mother brought to HER city. She's forced to change herself against her will, because nobody is giving her a chance to push for her ideals.

This entire theory never ends, and with all of this? I kinda do see Mel actually committing Matricide, it lifts the "Ambessa will die" theory further.

[jamesrb4th]

So a lot of people are saying “Vi called Caitlyn ‘Cupcake’ and she folded”

But I think the real thing she said that made Caitlyn change sides is “I’m trying to save my dad”

Vi has gotten a miracle, someone she loves has come back from the dead. Caitlyn knows how much someone would want that, how badly it would hurt if it was taken away. And she just can’t bring herself to do that to a person who, despite her efforts to push them away, she is still in love with.

[soft-beams]

established!vi x reader

vi tells you caitlyn asked her to join the enforcers. it doesn't go well.

"She asked you to join the Enforcers," you say blankly, staring Vi dead in the eye before you burst out laughing. Vi watches as you do, her expression painfully contorted into something oddly unreadable.

You laugh and laugh, waiting for Vi to join in with you until you realise that she can't.

You stop laughing and go emotionally, so quick that it's terrifying. Vi doesn't blame you, though and tries not to hide from the emptiness of your stare.

"I..." Vi starts, trying to find the words. "I can see where she's coming from."

"Bullshit," you reply immediately, rage building but not quite ready to burst. "That's bullshit, Vi and you know it."

Vi nods for a moment but then shakes her head, conflicted.

"Pow—Jinx has done so much wrong," Vi says, pained. "And I just know that my little sister would never commit the heinous crimes she's done." She runs a hand through her hair, sinking further. "Fuck, she wouldn't...she'd never do all that shit and not feel a single ounce of remorse—"

"Vi," You interrupt sharply, and that stops Vi, your tone deadly. "I don't think you understand all that has happened. I can't even believe that you would consider joining them." Your voice is rising. "After everything they've done to us!"

"You think I want to join them!?" Vi fires back. "I think I would enjoy being on their side. You should know me better than that!"

"I thought I did!" You yell, your rage now a burning inferno. "Vi, this isn't the way to do things. Yes, what Powder has done is beyond merciless, but you need to stop and consider why!"

"So she can kill more people?" Vi says, and it's so blunt that it knocks you in the stomach. "You and I both know... that Powder, our Powder, is gone. And the sooner we accept that... the better it is for all of us."

There's a moment of silence, heavy around both of you, and it's just...it's too much.

You can't believe it.

That Vi would just do this.

"...Okay," you say lowly, and you turn around before walking away. You hear Vi call after you, her voice getting louder and louder the further you go.

You turn around, look into her desperate eyes before saying, "you've made your choice."

And then you're gone.