#c; Talia Al Ghul | Headcanons

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Latest brain worm well working on my fic: The same way Talia call's Bruce "Beloved" she has names she uses for Damian, Danny and Jason to but she uses their names more often than not unlike with Bruce

Damian: Moonlight

Danny: Starshine

Jason: My son (bc she is claiming him as he own whether he likes it or not lmao)

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Kink List With Talia Al ghul

A = Aftercare (What they’re like after sex)

he is capable of being tender and caring, displaying a vulnerable side that she seldom reveals. She offers soft touches and words of affection, showing a hint of the emotions she typically keeps hidden.

B = Body part (Their favorite body part of theirs and also their partner’s)

Talia has a fondness for her sharp and elegant hands, appreciating the skill and precision they possess. Similarly, She appreciates the femininity and grace in your appearance, admiring your curves and soft features.

C = Cum (Anything to do with cum basically… I’m a disgusting person)

Talia tends to be generous and assertive in her expressions of pleasure, often leaving you satisfied and exhausted. She is not one to hold back, and her climaxes tend to be intense and encompassing, as she loves to drench you with it.

D = Dirty Secret (Pretty self-explanatory, a dirty secret of theirs)

Despite her commanding demeanor, Talia harbors a secret fantasy of surrendering control. She fantasizes about submitting to you, where she can relinquish the burden of always being in charge.

E = Experience (How experienced are they? Do they know what they’re doing?)

She is intimately familiar with the anatomy and desires of both herself and others, possessing a skilled touch and an understanding of how to please. However, always open to exploring new experiences and expanding her repertoire.

F = Favorite Position (This goes without saying. Will probably include a visual)

Position-wise, Talia's favorite is the Lotus. It allows for deep intimacy and connection, with her body intertwined with yours. In this position, she can assert her dominance while still maintaining eye contact and closeness.

Talia also favors the Scissor position, where she can fully immerse herself in the sensation of bodies intertwined, while still maintaining control and intimacy.

G = Goofy (Are they more serious in the moment, or are they humorous, etc)

Talia typically leans towards a more serious demeanor during intimate moments. Her seductive and dominant nature usually doesn’t leave room for playfulness. However, there are rare occasions where she may allow a small hint of humor or a brief moment of lightheartedness.

H = Hair (How well groomed are they, does the carpet match the drapes, etc.)

Talia is meticulous about personal grooming, and her intimate area is well-groomed and maintained. The color of her pubic hair matches her dark hair, and she takes pride in her appearance, ensuring everything is exactly how she desires it to be.

I = Intimacy (How are they during the moment, romantic aspect…)

She tends to be intensely focused and commanding, establishing an atmosphere of power and control. However, she also exhibits a possessive streak, as she claims you in those moments, leaving no doubt about her ownership and desire for you.

J = Jack Off (Masturbation headcanon)

Talia seldom indulges in self-pleasure, as she prefers to exert her control over others rather than finding release in solitary acts. She may occasionally use masturbation as a means to explore her desires and sensations, but she often relies on you to fulfill her needs and desires.

K = Kink (One or more of their kinks)

Bondage - She finds pleasure in restraining and controlling you, using ropes, cuffs, and other restraints to assert her power and create an atmosphere of submission.

Impact Play - Talia enjoys inflicting pain as either a means of punishment or a way to assert her dominance, as she uses her hands, floggers, or other implements to leave her mark on you.

Sensory Deprivation - She has a penchant for controlling your senses, using blindfolds, earplugs, and other tools

L = Location (Favorite places to do the do)

Talia tends to prefer private and controlled settings for intimate encounters. She isn’t opposed to public or risky locations, but her preference is for places where she has total control and privacy. Common places she enjoys can be her own well-furnished room, a secluded and luxurious hotel room, or even a carefully chosen outdoor hideaway.

M = Motivation (What turns them on, gets them going)

What turns her on is your submission and surrender to her. When you submit to her desires and let her take the lead, it triggers a deep satisfaction and arousal in her. Additionally, she may also be aroused by your strength and independence, as she finds the challenge of taming a strong-willed individual to be an exciting turn-on

N = NO (Something they wouldn’t do, turn offs)

Golden Showers or Scat Play - Her tastes are more aligned with power and control than taboo practices, and she sees these acts as degrading rather than pleasurable.

Non-Consensual Harm or Abuse - Talia would never engage in acts that cause actual harm or pain without consent.

Humiliation - She doesn’t enjoy humiliating you or herself. She prefers dynamics that elevate her to a position of power rather than diminishing her or her partner.

O = Oral (Preference in giving or receiving, skill, etc)

She enjoys giving you oral, relishing the control she exerts as you become completely at her mercy. Her skills are exceptionally refined and practiced, as she uses her mouth to bring you to the brink of ecstasy and then keeps you hanging in suspense, drawing out the pleasure and anticipation.

When it comes to receiving oral from you, she relishes the sensation of your touch and devotion. She prefers you to be focused and submissive, allowing her to fully immerse herself in the experience and use you to she pleases.

P = Pace (Are they fast and rough? Slow and sensual? etc.)

Talia's pace in intimate situations can vary, depending on her mood and desires. Generally, she tends to start slowly, taking the time to establish her control and create an atmosphere of anticipation. Once she's established her dominance, she can be quite intense and demanding, maintaining a fiercely passionate and powerful rhythm.

In contrast, there are times when she enjoys slowing down and exploring your limits with a more deliberate and sensual pace. In these moments, Talia may take her time to prolong the pleasure and heighten your desire for her.

Q = Quickie (Their opinions on quickies rather than proper sex, how often, etc.)

Quickies aren't Talia's usual preference, as she enjoys the opportunity for extended and intense encounters. However, there may be occasions where the urgency of the moment or the need for a quick release takes precedence. In those cases, she will be as efficient as possible.

R = Risk (Are they game to experiment, do they take risks, etc.)

Talia isn't afraid of taking risks or trying new things in the bedroom. She sees it as an opportunity to explore her power and dominance in different ways. However, she prefers to be in control of the risks involved, making sure they are calculated and within her boundaries.

S = Stamina (How many rounds can they go for, how long do they last…)

Talia possesses stamina that is matched by her intensity. She is capable of multiple rounds, each more passionate and powerful than the last. Her recovery time is relatively quick, allowing her to sustain this level of activity for an extended period. While she doesn't necessarily have an upper limit on how long she can last, she is more likely to stop when she senses you are reaching your limits.

T = Toy (Do they own toys? Do they use them? On a partner or themselves?)

Talia may use light and discreet toys in the bedroom, but she's not particularly dependent on them. She tends to prefer to use her own body and skills to bring you pleasure. When it comes to using them on you, Talia may occasionally incorporate a toy into her dominant play as a means to heighten your sensations, intensify your pleasure, or assert her control.

U = Unfair (how much they like to tease)

Talia is a master of the art of teasing and torment. She takes delight in pushing you to the limit, drawing out your desire and anticipation, and then keeping you suspended in that state for as long as possible. She's not above being a bit unfair in her approach, using her knowledge of you and your reactions to find and then exploit your weaknesses.

V = Volume (How loud they are, what sounds they make)

During intimate moments, Talia's volume tends to be more commanding than noisy. She isn't one to let loose with wild cries of pleasure. Instead, she may let out a low moan or whispered command. However, when she does make sounds, they're typically soft, sensual, and filled with a dominant undercurrent.

W = Wild Card (Get a random headcanon for the character of your choice)

Talia often incorporates subtle displays of her skills with a dagger or other weapon into her domination play, teasing and exciting you with her mastery. She may use the edge of a blade to lightly trace your skin, or simply show you her proficiency with a weapon, reminding you of her dangerous and unpredictable nature, even in intimate moments.

X = X-Ray (Let’s see what’s going on in those pants, picture or words)

Talia's body is curvy and well-toned, with a generous proportion of her ample curves in all the right places. Her dark, raven-black hair is usually pulled back, accentuating her sharp features. Her skin is unblemished and exudes an almost ethereal quality. In the right light, her muscular physique betrays the hours of training she has put into her body.

Y = Yearning (How high is their sex drive?)

Talia's sex drive is strong and demanding, and she typically wants to indulge that desire on a semi-regular basis. While she isn't as ravenous as to need it every night, she does have frequent moments where the need for physical intimacy is strong and insistent.

Z = ZZZ (… how quickly they fall asleep afterwards)

After intimate moments, Talia may lay there with you for a while, relishing the afterglow and the feeling of control and power that comes with it. However, her mind tends to be always running and planning, so she doesn't often stay still for long. When she does sleep, it's typically a light and fitful sleep, often marked by brief periods of wakefulness.

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Hi! Just wanted to say that i love reading your analysis and your knowledge on comics astounds me

Question, do you view any of dc's heroes as autistic? (If thats too much just batfam is fine)

Thank you for all your thoughts and mini essays 💚

Ty!! Glad to hear you enjoy it!

Ok right. So I'm thinking in general about DC characters I imagine as autistic. Batfam is easy to start with b/c I"ve read so much, but I'll include other characters as well

Cassandra Cain (Batgirl) - This is kind of a gimme, almost everyone headcanons Cass as autistic b/c she is explicitly textually neurodivergent (but they do not give her a real world diagnosis) and canonically has problems with language.

Damian Wayne (Robin) - another one I've seen a lot of. He has difficulties socializing that COULD be chalked up to being raised as an assassin, but also.... its in a way that's realistic for very many autistic people :P he also generally does not care about gaining the approval of everyone around him, like he's prickly and often unlikable but he's not trying to be liked.

Barbara Gordon (Oracle) - she reads as so autistic to me. Her conflict with Dinah in the beginning of BoP is positioned in the text as right brained vs left brained, which I think doesn't really make a lot of sense neurologically but does work as words the characters are using to describe things - the just think differently. Babs often reads as if she's coming at things from what in her perspective is trying to be analytical and unemotional (tho I do not think she always succeeds in this), and keeps people at arms length socially.

Bruce Wayne - he just reads as kind of autistic to me :P

Talia al Ghul - same :P

Milagro Reyes (Jaime Reyes/Blue Beetle's little sister) - she's not a superhero but she reads as very autistic to me. We have scenes where we see her clearly upset by sudden change, she also acts generally very similar to how I did as a little kid. We see her blocking everyone out by watching the TV when a lot of new stuff is going on in the house.

Raven - NTT Raven reads as very autistic to me as well. NGL just like many other characters this can be explained by other factors (She was raised in a cult in another dimension, taught not to emote, and is fighting off the influence of her demonic father) but also. They keep doing characters that are relatable to neurodivergent people like that ;P

Back when I watched YJ, I had very strong opinions about Kaldur'ahm being autistic. I still do, even tho I don't normally count the animated tv shows in my version of DC

I also feel a case could be argued for Diana of Themyscira/Wonder Woman. But I am still marinating this in my brain.

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jason todd &&/or talia al ghul for the hc ask? (if u want <3)

Just gonna do Jason cause I don't feel like I've read enough Talia focused comics to be qualified to come up with good HC's for her.

Jason Todd

Headcanon A:  realistic

Holds a grudge against Clark for stopping Bruce from killing the Joker that one time.

Headcanon B: while it may not be realistic it is hilarious

Likes Emily Dickinson's poetry, but still thinks her family should have respected her wishes and burned it after she died instead of publishing

Headcanon C: heart-crushing and awful, but fun to inflict on friends

Jason has body issues, the year of catatonia plus a post pit growth spurt left him with a distorted sense of what size he should be. He's constantly running into things and he had to completely retrain his acrobatics because that size distortion led to him getting the twisties.

Headcanon D: unrealistic, but I will disregard canon about it because I reject canon reality and substitute my own.

Jason and Damian are besties who knew each other in the Leage of Assassins. Talia introduced them after she claimed Jason as her son.

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Me introducing the Batfamily: "This is Dickie—Robin the first, later Nightwing, Renegade, Nightwing, Agent 37??, Nightwing. My golden child, heart of the DC universe. Poster child for Eldest Daughter Syndrome, after an adolescence spent trying to live up to the exacting expectations of an emotionally constipated parental figure while being made responsible for both his emotional health and safety and the rest of the world's. Veers between an indefatigable sense of humour buoyed by terrible puns, and high functioning depression. He is the big brother everyone idolizes, a hypercompetent and responsible human being who looks out for everyone except himself, a perfect balance of Superman's light and hope and Batman's dark brooding (although the scales keep tipping this way and that tbh). The Batfamily's Golden Boy's career has been marred only by his dire sense of fashion throughout his young adulthood (currently rocking the sexiest superhero outfit will never erase the scars of green panties and the discowing mullet), emotional impermanence in his relationships, grossly overestimating his own capacity to do everything at once, and attempting to live on cereal, as well as every so often absolutely blowing his lid and fulfilling his asshole quota all at once. The greatest acrobat in the world, he is uniquely characterized by his on-and-off relationship with assorted redheads and gravity, everyone and their mother being compelled to remark on how pretty he is even in a mask, and being the owner of the Damn Fine, the world's finest posterior (they took a poll).

"This is Jason Todd—Robin II, later Red Hood. A brick shithouse of stabby shooty snark that rattles the fourth wall, he is a proponent of murder and blowing shit up in the name of social justice. Both his morals and aesthetic combines utilitarianism with being a melodramatic asshole (distinctive red full face helmet with a domino mask underneath, combat boots, leather jacket of manpain). Has a gun fetish due to his unhealthy obsession with making Batman eat every last bit of dick, but is also pro-gun control (he controls all the guns).

Driven away from his sidekick career at the age of fifteen by Bruce's paranoia that he may have killed a repeat offender rapist, he was then betrayed by his birth mother to the Joker who beat him with a crowbar and blew him up. Later was resurrected via cosmic hissy fit but had to dig his way out of his own grave and wandered the streets brain-damaged until Talia Al Ghul found him and dunked him in the Lazarus pit, which healed his faculties but left him with a case of PTSD from hell. Came back to Gotham to try and get his Bat-Dad to avenge him via reverse Hamlet scheme featuring a (now iconic) bag of decapitated mobster heads, but no dice. The 2011 reboot of the DC universe downgraded his reaction to this from "homicidal" to "salty".

He used to be a mop-headed little gremlin but Talia presumably fed him some Lazarus GMO beef along with mad assassin skills because he became a bruiser almost taller than Bruce by the time he returned to Gotham. He's also the only reason why the whole fandom knows what a piebald streak is (trauma, but make it fashion) and his thunder thighs are legend. Fandom headcanons him as the world's angriest self-taught student of feminist and classical literature who will as likely kneecap you for maligning Jane Austen as for selling drugs to children.

(We reject the spurious allegations by Daniel, Morrison et al that he is remotely capable of child murder or wearing a dildo helmet. He is guilty of many things but not being cringe. Mfer rocked a pimp cane with combat boots, for Christ's sake, why would he shoot kids or wear a suppository on his head.)

"This is the Timmy bird, Robin the third, later Red Robin (not the fast food chain). He used to be the world's most well-adjusted latch-key kid, if you discount his stalking tendencies, but then his Mom died, his Dad died, his best boyfriends both died, his stepmom died, his city got nuked, his big brother nearly died, his sister "went crazy" and his adoptive Dad also (ostensibly) died. This happened nearly all within his sixteenth year of life, which gave rise to the meme "Tim Drake—Even His Houseplants Die". And then his own adored big brother fired him from being his sidekick in an epic dick move (pun intended for his crimes). He went from an adorable sunshiny kid who made friends with everyone to a brooding and manipulative asshole (affectionate), in the mold of Batman but with more dead parents.

The love child of a competence kink and a Bishounen, Tim's fashion sense veers between hobo I.T guy and sharp enough to kill you (except for that time with alternate universe Jason's cast-offs where he looked like knock-off Doctor Mid-Nite. Don't ask). The techie of the bunch, his investigative skills rival those of Batman's and served as the youngest CEO of Wayne Tech for a spell without graduating high school. Functions as some kind of caffeine vampire, hasn't slept in years, humanity too dependent on him to plan for every exigency. Has probably written a computer programme to remind him how to human. Very close to his sister Cassandra and his big brother Dick, whom he idolizes, has a distrustful relationship with Jason whom he occasionally allies with, and a legendary rivalry with Damian, who might be a prepubescent but also a hundred pounds of laser-focused murder grudge in a ten pound bag. The only one of Bruce's adopted children to take his name (which again made no sense but Tim Drake-Wayne is a GQ motherfucker so fandom eventually rolled with it) Life challenges include subtextually being in love with his best friend Superboy while DC editorial desperately tries to make him straight¹, and fending off Ra's Al Ghul's creepy second-hand sexual fixation on him. Or on his genetic material. Who knows with that guy.

"This is Cassandra Cain, the third Batgirl and later Black Bat. Originator of the meme "looks like a cinnamon roll, is actually a cinnamon roll but will also kill you" except not because she has a no-kill rule more iron-clad than Batman's. Child of two of the DCU's most fucked up assassins, Cass was an experimental human murder weapon and not taught to speak but rather "read" body language. Ran away from her asshole Dad after her first and only kill at the age of eight traumatized the shit out of her. Wandered the world for years being a lethal cutie until she was taken under the wing of Barbara Gordon a.k.a Oracle. She had very limited ability to communicate with the world until a metahuman rearranged her neuroplasty to make her understand words, and accidentally precipitated a cascade of complications including baby's second existential crisis.

She is like a daughter and little sister to Babs so it made little sense as to why Bruce was the one to adopt her, but she won his love and trust by proving it's his mission she idolizes and more than anything. Arguably Bruce's favourite, being the only child who does not expect him to do any emotional labour other than emitting his brand of stoic, non-verbal Bat approval. Can easily kick his ass, your ass, everyone else's ass, her own ass. She'd be objectively terrifying if she wasn't possibly the most compassionate of them all, and also generally a cheeky, cocky little shit. Best friends include adoptive brother Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown.

(Yes, most of the tropes associated with Cass are kinda racist, considering she's half Asian.)

"My golden daughter Stephanie Brown, The Spoiler, Robin IV and Batgirl IV². Started her career by hitting Tim Drake with a brick and becoming his most convincing heterosexual love interest to date. Joined the superhero game just to get revenge her abusive C List supervillain father, Cluemaster, and stayed in the game first because Batman kept telling her to get lost and then later because she loved kicking ass in a homemade spandex outfit (it's EGGPLANT motherfucker).

This spunky little blonde weathered an abusive father, her mother's drug addiction, childhood emotional neglect, poverty, a teenage pregnancy, being a relationship with Tim Drake, Batman using her as a pawn to get Tim back by making her Robin, being fired by Batman, accidentally starting a gang war in a bid to "prove" herself to Batman, almost dying after hours of grossly sexualized torture with a power drill, having her doctor fake her passing to keep her out of Batman's clutches (DR. LESLIE DEFENCE SQUAD FOREVER), and having writer Bill Willingham insist she was "never really Robin". She is the personification of hope and humour and sheer dogged perversity in a world that wanted her gone. Came back from the dead to bitchslap both her ex and Batman and became Batgirl under Oracle's watchful and (kind of) responsible mentorship.

Other notable relationships include Cass Cain her girlfriend best friend with whom she bonded over asshole Dads ("my Dad locked me in a closet when I was bad. What did your Dad do?" "Shot me." "LMAO I can't beat you at anything") and Damian Wayne, who calls her Fatgirl because he is ten and doesn't know how to deal with his crush. Other than Babs, she is possibly the only member in this fucked up family with a sense of perspective.

"This is my little murder kitten Damian, Robin V. The fact that he shares a name with the Anti-Christ was no accident because he was introduced as such. Bruce Wayne and Talia Al Ghul's only biological issue via test tube (we refuse to acknowledge his rapey Grant Morrison origins), the kid was Ra's eugenics wet dream designed as a vessel into which he could transfer his own consciousness in order to escape the end of his own body's Lazarus warranty period. Talia decided to fuck that noise and sent the child to live with his Dad, whereupon he immediately tried to kill everybody else to claim his birthright because that's how ninja assassin cults and the Ottoman empire roll.

When Bruce temporarily died and Dick temporarily assumed the Bat mantle he was also landed with a tiny ninja assassin brother with the social skills of a wet cat. So Dick gave him the Robin job (throwing his other brother under the bus) and after a rocky start, made great headway in making the child behave in some approximation of a human being.

Damian is adorably territorial of his big brother but absolutely hates Tim, apparently just on priciple. Dami dresses and behaves like the snotty little princeling he was raised as, and talks like a judgemental Cambridge dictionary, but is really a lonely child at heart who relates to animals better than humans. He has since collected a small menagerie which includes a rooster, Bat-Cow, Alfred the cat, Titus the Great Dane and the enormous mythical beast Goliath who he saved when he was a cub that looked like a small Pokémon. Also made friends with a disabled street child named Colin Wilkes, a very Catholic cinnamon roll superhero fanboy who hulks out into a behemoth hero named Abuse. Other notable friendships include Stephanie Brown and Jon Kent.

"This is Barbara Gordon. She is the only Batkid to have graduated completely out of Bruce's sidekick programme and subsequently his bullshit. The first Batgirl is closest to Bruce in age and the beloved daughter of Batman's best friend, Commissioner Jim Gordon, she is more like a sister than a daughter to him. Barbara donned the Batgirl costume herself when she was seventeen after being turned down by the police academy for Reasons, and impressed Batman into mentoring her. She and Dick had a long running partnership and flirtation (her being much older than him) that very eventually matured into a romance in adulthood (that ended up such an unqualified storytelling clusterfuck that DC editorial swept the whole thing under the Rug Of Subtext until the reboot).

She had already decided to retire as Batgirl when the Joker shot her through the spine, paralyzing her for life. After a period of depression, she overcame this limitation with the help of a high-tech wheelchair, martial arts tutelage with Richard Dragon that accomodated her disability, and using her formidable intelligence to become Oracle, the communications mainframe of the JLA and international information broker (don't touch her wheelchair, bitch). She recruited Dinah Lance the Black Canary to found the Birds of Prey and later a whole slew of other lady superheroes, although it was Dinah who became her best friend (and soulmate).

Despite being a manipulative mastermind, her ruthless pragmatism and dark past, she avoids falling into the self-obsession and darkness that claims Bruce and his boys by leaning on her emotional support network, not having time for male nonsense and general dedication to acting like a human being.

"Alfred Pennyworth is effectively Bruce's father and grandfather to the batchildren although he is rarely directly acknowledged as such because idk classism and Bruce's manpain. He is the stereotypical stoic butler who improbably gained custody of his employer's young son and enabled his unhealthy obsession with his parents murder because he was trapped between being a guardian and technically being on his charge's payroll (idk how any of this works, why didn't they just keep Uncle Phillip). He apparently used to work in Her Majesty's Secret Service, MI6 and Shakespearean theater before coming to America to become a butler, of all things. This worked to his advantage when Bruce decided to take up vigilanteism and also adopt a small army of children who would follow his lifestyle of beating the crap out of all their problems instead of going to therapy.

To Alfred's credit, he wanted more for his kids than beating up goons every night but he is only the butler and no one listens to him despite getting knocked out every time a supervillain breaks into the Batcave. He is a fan favourite³ and seen as the "Mom" of the batfamily but I have always had reservations about him because YOU COULD HAVE MADE THIS KID GO TO THERAPY BEFORE HE BECAME FIXATED ON BATS ALFRED. BUT YOU DID NOT. WHY.

"And finally we have Bruce Wayne, who everyone already knows about, having had 8372672 movies made about him by now. He's that bad boy I fell in love with when I was young and easily impressed by broody broken men before realizing he was kind of an asshole but then falling in love with his kids too much to ever leave. Bruce is at both his best and his worst when he is called to be a father to his children, perpetually torn between his love for them, his obsession with his mission and his own issues about supplanting their own biological parents.

"Does that answer your question?"

Fast food cashier: *eyes glazed* "So...you do want fries with that?"

1. This post was written before DC made Tim bisexual. But made him in love with Bernard instead. Further proof that they need to be killed with hammers.

2. note to nerds: Helena Bertinelli was Batgirl III during No Man's Land.

3. This is why DC killed him a short while after this post was written. Still has not been resurrected. Because they despise their readership and want us to suffer.

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DC AU Question: If Damian Wayne was born earlier, became the first and the oldest former sidekick of the Bat Family, as someone known as Bat-Child, instead of Dick Grayson (who became the young and current sidekick to Batman called Robin), how different would things get for everyone if one of those heroes was born very early and the other much later? Note: The alternate scenario above could happen in ANY DC universe and only Dick and Damian would get their ages swapped.

Also to Note: Dami and Bruce would meet each other after the child turns ten.

First, that name would never stick... But there would be a lot of changes in how both Bruce’s and Damian’s characters develop. Damian is snotty, not just because he was raised as the young prince Al Ghul, but because of the chip on his shoulder of his father raising other children. This is one of his major insecurity issues. If Damian came first, this would probably die down a lot, and he would act out a bit less. That said, he’d still be a little shit. On the other hand, Bruce, without the experience of raising his other son’s or daughter (we will always acknowledge Cassandra Cain Wayne in this house), would be completely out of his depth with this precocious little brat. His priorities would be very different as well, because he didn’t specifically train the others to be his agents, he trained them so that they would be safe doing what they were going to do anyways due to grief management (Dick), anger management (Jason), and moderate reckless behavior (Tim, Barb, Steph). Cassie was an exception because she was already a trained, perfect assassin before she met Bruce. Bruce would have no clue how to deal with this sudden fatherhood dropped on him at this stage, and this unplanned, and he would be even more opposed to putting his son at risk. In fact, he would be horrified by the kind of training the League of Assassins would have put Damian through, and would probably waste time trying to put the kid through therapy. The main problem I see with this is also time wise. Robin is a very early addition to the Bat-mythos, I headcanon around Year 2-3. Meanwhile, to a.) Garner Ra’s and Talia’s attention, b.) plan to grow a child, and c.) the 10 years for Damian to grow would redefine Bruce’s whole character as a solo hero. He would be adamant about not taking a partner, especially his child into danger, and without Robin, he would definitely become a harder, darker character without that moderating force. In fact, I would argue that without Robin (Dick), it wouldn’t be impossible for Ra’s to just recruit Bruce due to character changes alone.

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Talia is Asexual in the fact that she doesn't go looking for sex and doesn't necessarily want it, but she is adept at using to her advantage for missions if needed. She also is Demi-Biromantic, and well she doesn't usually go looking for relationships and actively avoids becoming attached to people. Because of this she's never managed to fall for someone besides Bruce, but she wouldn't say no to a relationship with a woman if she felt that connection. When she feels that connection she is also very much willing to participate in the physical aspects of a relationship if she knows her partner enjoys them, not so much because she wants it but to make sure they feel good.

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damian: 7, 2, 16, 28

7 A quote of them that you remember

Favorite Damian Quotes :P

choose to be something more than a weapon

There actually is no way to stop me

You may have invented being Robin, but I perfected it

2 When I think I truly started to like them (or dislike them, if you’ve sent me a character I don’t like)

I liked him since I first saw him in Batman: Bad Blood (I used to get into characters via TV shows and movies before reading comics :P) Then I immediately watched I think Son of Batman and Batman vs Robin, and then read Robin: Son of batman and Batman and Son. He's been perfect since day 1

16 A childhood headcanon

I have a lot, normally ones I sprinkle thruout my fics but... we'll see

I headcanon he's not actually that enthusiastic about playing violin and only does it b/c it was part of his training (based on the fact that we see him drawing a lot more after leaving the league than we do playing violin)

that talia didn't raise him in the league and wasn't aware of his training (or the fact that he was alive) :P

he sometimes trained with the assassins who were trained from birth that talia mentions in batman chronicles #8, but still felt somewhat disconnected with them due to the fact that he had more additional training on the side to prepare him to be the next ra's al ghul

28 The most unnecessary thing they ever did?

I guess challenging the other robins to fights is kind of unnecessary :P but funny

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Talia Al Ghul

Obviously things can vary to fit plots, the info I'm writing mainly fits in with my fic and my info for Danny but can be altered to an extent timeline wise and such. Also she has been effected by proximity to the pit along with how much her father had used them before she was conceived and ages a bit slow & I kinda picked and chose pieces from the various stories we have about her

Talia Al Ghul was born around 1950 to a woman born into the league who had caught the eye of the Great Ra's Al Ghul, Melisande was killed when Talia was an infant by a former ally of Ra's named Qayin. After her death the guard who had been charged with protecting his child was killed for their failure and a price was put on Qayin's capture or death. After the lose of her Mother Talia was raised by a combination of teachers and her father, as she got older and her skill became more obvious? Her father became a more prominent figure in her lessons, training her to be able to run his organization for him when he had things to attend to.

Sometime later in her life she meets Bruce Wayne as Batman after both her she and Dick Grayson are kidnapped seemingly by a mutual enemy of Ra's and Batman. Unknown to Batman at the time, this was a set-up to allow his daughter the chance to seduce him. After their encounter an offer is extended to Bruce to train with the league and expand his skill set, during his time with them Bruce and Talia do manage to fall into a whirlwind romance. During this time, much to her father's disappointment, Talia ends up truly falling for Bruce. Unfortunately for her he learns the truth about their meeting and that Gotham is in danger at the same time, making his decision to leave easy for him.

It was nearly 2 weeks after Bruce left that Talia realized the that she was pregnant with his child, or rather children. When it was learned she was pregnant, steps were taken to make sure that her child would be stronger and more resilient than any normal child should. A combination of Lazarus magic and science was used to make the child stronger and more resilient. She's had thoughts about it being the reason Aidan was born still, needing to be dipped in the waters to truly enter the world. She has never voiced them allowed for fear that her own meddling in an attempt to make him stronger caused her son's entrance to the world to be delayed.

As Damian and Aidan grew, it was obvious to Talia which one her Father favored, even if it had not been for Aidan's less than ideal birth? His hesitance to kill unless it could not be avoided was obvious, even if none would voice it outside the looks her father would give her in those instances. Despite this, he excelled in stealth more so than even many of his teachers. Many members took to referring to him as The Heir's Shadow and assumed that if Damian ever took over for his grandfather, Aidan would serve a similar role to him as Talia did for Ra.'s.

When it comes to her son's Talia would do anything that she could to protect them, no matter who that made an enemy to her or who it turned against her; even if it was them that turned against her. It is this that pushed her to helping Jason Todd when he died and came back incomplete, knowing that Bruce was going through the pain of losing a child? She could not sit back and ignore that as her own children now nearly 7 years old lived and breathed in front of her, and so she found Jason and tossed him into a pit to be fully revived. During his time with her he met Damian twice and Aidan only once, but he was so far into the pit haze that it's possible they looked similar enough he didn't realize there were two of them.

Unsurprisingly with her protective streak when it came to her children, when her schedule allowed it Talia would follow them on any missions that they were assigned. When Danny was 8 years and 3 months old, he was assigned to a mission to kill a former ally of Ra's. She did just that, seeing when he failed in his mission and doing so for him well, rigging the building to blow. She then caught up with her son and told him to follow her, traversing him over 2 states from where his mission had been. She told him that Aidan Al Ghul was dead, and if he wanted to survive, he would stay that way. She trusted that she had instilled the skills needed to survive in him and left, not being able to stay away longer for risk of Ra's becoming suspicious.

After returning, she broke the news about Aidan to her father before doing so privately to Damian in anticipation of his upset about his brother's lose. It was not long after this that she brought him to Gotham to tell him who his father was, hoping that learning this information would help him through his grief. When she later left Damian with his father it was the second-hardest day of her life, because at least with him she knew that Bruce would be there to protect him.

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For thel headcanon thing Damian Wayne + 15? Thankyou.

tysm for the ask! (prompt from here: link). I always love an excuse to blabber about 1 of my favorite characters

15 What it takes to make them cry 

Okay I’ll start w/ canon then headcanon

from what I’ve seen in canon, Damian doesn’t really cry much at all. We see it after he comes back from the dead… again in Robin: Son of Batman #13. We see it in one of the flashbacks during the year of blood, when he found Goliath (link). And IIRC when he’s confronting Nobody v1 alone and Nobody is beating him up and asking him why he betrayed him for Batman and he says because (Batman) is his father.

IIRC, none of these are in reaction to physical pain (or in the case of nobody, only, in reaction to physical pain). He seems to be pretty stoic in the face of that which makes me sad b/c… shouldn’t have to be.

it seems to normally be a reaction to stressful or very intense emotional situations. Like in the Year of Blood he was all “I’ve come too far, worked too hard, slept too little…” w/e and very clearly worn the heck out from having to do something super impressive every single day. There’s also the fact that Goliath was *not* acting like he was expecting. I don’t think he knew how to react to non-violence in that situation. He could have been realizing that he killed Goliath’s family for nothing. and I think he projected a bit onto Goliath (”you have to fight your family is counting on you”).

Same for vs Nobody he had come off a lot of arguments with Bruce and not feeling trusted by his dad. And he obviously thinks that Bruce wants a Bruce Wayne clone. We can see he’s dealing with his anger about having to restrain himself while fighting and feeling repressed. So he’s doing all this for Bruce and he doesn’t feel like Bruce is doing anything for him, then he’s in a high stress situation (with nobody) and he has to justify/articulate why he’s still loyal to bruce.

So I guess my take is normally like… not just one thing, but a lot of things kind of building up. He’s normally pretty worn down and there’s some type of emotional thing he’s having a hard time even articulating. Like I don’t think that during the Year of Blood, he was able to articulate a) that what his family was doing to him was wrong or b) that what he was doing was wrong. But it was still getting to him, even though he didn’t know why.

Also notable that 2/3 of these examples had something to do with his family (either about bruce or about the duty he feels to the al ghuls). So if I was writing something, to keep my headcanon consistent to canon, I’d make him cry when he’s already very stressed from lots of other factors and probably when he might feel like something is wrong, but be unable to articulate it. Possibly if he ever confronted a non-villain-ball wielding Talia (i’m not sure morrison Talia would make his emotions kind of confused enough for that, it’d be easier to say “Oh so i hate her”).

I think most of the time, though, he turns his sadness into judgementalness or anger (thinking of the batgirl 2009 scene where he was observing the kids going to school and like “Look at them they’re like mindless drones, ants” or w/e… but then looked kind of sad, the judgementalness was clearly trying to feel better about not being able to relate to kids his age or do the stuff they do), and that’s why it’s not very common to see him cry.