#c!sam analysis
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Ok, I recently wrote an essay [here] talking about the definition and duties of civil engineering as well as the ethics because of the brain rot @swordfright gave me with calling Dream Sam’s ultimate engineering project. So, because I actually am a civil engineer I took it upon myself to design the title and summary of quantities sheets just like I do at work for roads but with Dream as the project instead. And in honor of angst day sponsored by @sixteenth-day-event, I figured I’d share it because I feel like it kinda works for the prison of the mind prompt.
“Sam’s “ultimate engineering project” he deemed too damaged like a bumpy road or crumbling building that wasn’t worthy of patching and filling in the cracks or reinforcing, that’s too eroded to be fixed and preserved. So, Sam strived to tear him down to the bedrock so he could remake, remold, and reengineer Dream according to his design for the common safety, public health and well-fair.”
{These are very similar to the actual sheets I make day to day, which I shall not share for the sake of doxing my location, but yea pretty much everything has a significance. Some of it doesn’t necessarily make sense but that was because I was more so taking inventory of what we see in lore (so you know I counted ;) lol)}
#sixteenthdayevent#AAANNNNNGGST#Ah and now you see why I’ve been digging up all the prison lore and inventories ;D…. my brain rot is too powerful#still never got wardens torment enchants though :( did for the shovel and how which I’ll now have to write torture scenes for…#so ummm stay tuned for that in Misery Loves An Idiot… Dream going to have lots of fun I’m sure >:)#c!dream#dsmp#dreblr#dream smp#dsmp dream#dsmp analysis#dsmpblr#prison arc#dsmp art#pandora’s vault has a singular purpose#flora favs#pandora’s vault#c!dream fanart#flora does art apparently#ah Sam… such a good engineer… if only he realized Dream was a person not a condemned structure oof#if y’all are curious enough I might share a irl work example with different numbers and stuff but didn’t want to bore you XD#happy angst day :)… wait isn’t that everyday? lol#can we talk about how I’ve done all of these prompts as descriptions of metaphors and stuff kinda funny#civil engineering
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what it is is like, on a meta level there were characters in the dream smp who were played by ccs who didn't have a large enough fanbase or "lore importance" to impact the writers room. like there were characters with specific written roles and there were characters whose arcs and internal conflict weren’t even being considered right. people's inability to separate cc from c also contributed, with cgnfs lore importance correlating w the ccs large audience (and ties to the main antagonist), he never would've been relevant otherwise. cniki was lightning in a bottle bcs she had just enough involvement with the guy's involved in the "main plot" to get eyes on her and what she did with that stage and focus was so captivating her character was able to stand alone with a fanbase of her own
however because of the nature of the dsmp, being able to see every characters individual perspective, the idea of 'side characters' only exists on a kinda narrative level, like for all intents and purposes ctommy was the main character (ignoring that old ass debate), the story was being sort of written with him at the center so thats how he was treated narratively but also on a meta level, many characters arcs were weighted based on how ctommy interacted with them. there were no side characters in the dsmp bcs of the nature of streaming as a medium but in the like, overarching story, ctommy is the mc
ALL OF THIS TO SAY ctubbo exists paradoxically. like technically he's one of the 'main guys' the fandom would focus on and was close enough to garner his own dedicated fanbase but [the thoughtstream that would spur this post] in modern discussions about dsmp nostalgia and character quotes and stuff I've never once seen ctubbos name.
So but but butttttttt on a meta level, narrative level, and TEXTUALLY LIKE IN THE ACTUAL TEXT he is regarded as a side character. like cctubbo gained a large enough fanbase to stand on his own but despite his proximity to the writers room he wasn't very involved in the writing of the "script" however the importance of his character to ctommy made it so that his character was always considered in the script (well characterized or not). with ctommy as the mc and ctubbo as his best friend, in the story of the overall dsmp ctubbo is the sidekick to main main character. now that's all well and good if it was only on a meta/textual level but this dynamic is actually crucial to his arc like actually IN THE TEXT
like in season 2 cdream is the main antagonist with making ctommys life a living hell being his main goal. he meticulously separates them and incites a canyon sized rift in their relationship. then while tubbo is holding up the sky and being [new] lmanburgs youngest acting president. cdream fully befriend him at his lowest with the intention of using him against ctommy. ctubbo was never a person in cdream's eyes. he, like many other characters, goes out of his way to dehumanize ctubbo, viewing him as an extension of ctommy the same way the discs are, something to taunt him with or destroy for a reaction. we see this in the white house fight and disc saga finale. despite going out of his way to gain ctubbos trust and play chess with him everyday, cdream never even saw him as a person (how fucked is that)
Anyway where was I goibg with this..ctubbo had enough ties to the 'main characters' to be tied to the 'main narrative' of the dsmp (in quotes bcs there's nuances to those phrases) but not enough to be allowed to stand alone on a meta level, narrative level, and in the text when regarded by other characters. it isn't until later in the story [thru streamer and tubbling efforts that he kinda gets his own legs? until the story requires otherwise from him and he's dragged along to whatever role the main story needs him to play (which in retrospect led to a lott of mischaraterization huh who knew
#i lost this post somewhere around the halfway point#like i was muttering to myself while pacing my housd and then thought hey maybe i should post that and lost what i was saying halfway thru#anyway add to the discussion as u please#also huge shoutout to sam and ponk fans yall carried despite how underrated ur faves were#smp analysis#c!tubbo#dsmp#and fuck the shitty ccs or whatever#mcyt#dream smp#IGNORE ME IGNORE THIS IM CTAZY
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just got the sudden hit of realization that jschlatt technically fits under l'manberg's whole "no violence" principle, even if he technically did a lot of violent things as president. like i know the theme of cyclical violence was just about to get there but i can't help but notice that schlatt does not fit under the "villains who succeeded in the dsmp via physical power" because he isn't good at minecraft.
and i mean that like. in an unfunny-funny way. because it was established by quackity that the violent power that exists in the dsmp goes hand in hand with how good the cc behind the character is at mc, which is why quackity had an entire plotline centered on gambling. how skilled a cc is at minecraft does change what a character is capable of, and explains why techno and dream were those most feared in the dsmp.
so like. with schlatt. like let's be honest, nothing was literally keeping him from being president. gotta rewatch how tommy and wilbur were exiled just so i can double check everything but like. i think it's fascinating to realize that wilbur was somewhat mistaken when he believed l'manberg's core values were completely overridden, because it wasn't. schlatt didn't really gain power by being physically threatening. in fact i'd say he and wilbur are similar wherein their characters are threatening because of their manipulative charm.
idk. like, wow, wilbur's l'manbergian principles were right in some way, just contorted. you can gain power without being a violent minecraft pro
#mcyt#dream smp#jschlatt#i need to explain this better but like. do u get what i mean. wherein the cycle of violence rlly wasn't a cycle at all. at least it wasnt-#when schlatt was in power. hes not the same w techno sam dream etc#c!schlatt#dream smp analysis#i think it's interesting how l'manberg's principles were still. technically there in some way
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/dsmp /rp
Thinking about how Dream was barely allowed to say anything in the prison and was frequently ignored and dismissed by Sam. From the start already, Sam interrogates visitors on whether Dream said anything to them. After Tommy's revival and after being starved for almost two weeks, Dream asks Sam for potatoes and gets no reply. Dream calls for Sam when Quackity is about to torture him, and Sam ignores him. After finding Tommy invisible in the cell, Sam orders Dream to be quiet and how he "doesn't want to hear anything from [him]" when Dream dares to call for Sam just once. Following Techno's escape, Dream asks Sam if he can go to the courtyard, leading to Sam going on a victim-blaming rant and Dream falling completely silent. Sam then orders Dream not to ask to go to the courtyard, and Dream only answers "alright" after a long silence and doesn't speak for the rest of the stream. Dream has to answer questions but he isn't allowed to ask for anything, ever. And if he does, Sam interprets it in the worst way and twists his words until Dream gives up and just stays quiet entirely.
#anything c!dream says is obviously manipulation and can never be trusted under any condition#the way c!sam said “good” after he successfully threatened c!dream into silence is so deranged#c!dream#c!sam#dreblr#analysis
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something that absolutely keeps me up at night is thinking about c!sam and c!dream in the prison, after c!quackity's very first visit. did c!dream already know that c!sam had allowed the torture and if so, how did he find out? how long did he spend screaming c!sam's name while c!quackity covered himself in blood? did c!sam initially panic at the amount of blood c!dream had lost, did he already have healing potions on hand and know how to clean up the cell or was this routine something he developed later on? if c!dream already knew that c!sam had allowed the torture to occur, how did he react upon seeing him? did he react with anger, did he beg c!sam to make him stop, to not let him come back, he'll do anything? was he even conscious enough to think anything at all? the many "firsts" in the prison (first time c!sam withheld potatoes, first time he used wardens willbreaker, first time he allowed c!quackity to visit, first time they all figured a rhythm to keep c!dream alive but still in pain) keep me UP at night.
#c!sam#c!dream#c!quackity#c!prisontrio#c!dream and c!sam#dreblr#c!dream and torture#c!sam and torture#torture#my post#dsmp#dsmp analysis#dream smp
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Why do you think cpuffy was able to get got by the egg? If I remember what happened right. It's been a bit
Well, we know from canon that even being in close proximity to the egg without protective iron hazmat suits can cause a person to hear voices, become aggressive towards others, delirium, and immediately become protective and affectionate towards the egg. Puffy herself is not immune as she was, back before the Eggpire was established, infected. She only turned against it after a combination of strong negative emotions towards Bad, and not being physically with the egg as much. I don't think there was any concrete answer as to the mechanism of infection, but it's heavily implied that some amount of time away from the egg causes its influence to naturally fade, and within a matter of days if we estimate the time between the red banquet being interrupted, and all former members of the Eggpire who were not otherwise killed (c!Ant, and c!Bad by Skeppy as revealed by the finale) as losing a life is another way to break infection, as seen when Skeppy respawns after the fight with Bad, no longer red. You can also clearly be immune to the egg's negative effects like Tommy, or you can resist the egg, as shown by the fact that Sam remained uninfected during his imprisonment in it's chambers. I'm not sure if those two are actually special cases, but as Sam is the character who spent the longest trapped with the egg who never turned red, I'm going to say it's just a matter of luck. Hannah was kidnapped twice, and while the first time left her disoriented and suggestible to being rekidnapped, the second made her secretly join the Eggpire itself. So I think the amount of time it takes to become fully infected is dependent on things such as prior emotional state, history with the egg, health, etc) And that is to say I think the answer is pretty obvious. Skeppy pushed Puffy into the egg as a part of his deal with it (Although I'm pretty sure he wasn't egged when he did that to Puffy?) And she was not immune to the egg, and was very quickly either immediately killed and puppetted, or... just was stuck there while slowly being taken over, and eventually being used as the voice of the egg itself, literally.
#thanks for the ask!#the wren calls#dsmp lore#egg arc#eggpire#egg lore#red banquet#egg finale#c!puffy#c!bad#c!skeppy#c!hannah#c!sam#dsmp lore analysis
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c!Sam makes me so ill he makes me so ill he's so absolutely torn apart and crushed by all the guilt and the weight of the entire fucking world that he took onto his shoulders in an attempt to keep everyone else free from it and instead it crushed not only him but everyone around him and he's just so miserable and sad and and and [i explode into a billion little pieces]
#bawka squawks#c!Sam#awesamdude#dsmp#dsmp analysis#to Me. because even now his character is critically underappreciated and the people Need To Know
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people have said a lot of funny things to me while trying to critique my spreadsheet of notes. but none of them have come close to matching the freak of this. the claim that supernatural season 1 episode 7 "hookman" frames sam as a damsel in distress.
and not only that. but that somehow somehow i didn't include this in my notes document...
my brother in christ, i don't have a sheet for insane sam meta.
#like what can i say to this???#a) i am doing watsonian analysis#what do the characters say and do#ONLY#im not tackling framing#BUT if i were#i would say that in the we fight monsters and are caught or in danger from monsters show#where almost every episode there's some amount of violent tension#THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE AREN'T SAVED TIL THE LAST MINUTE#thats just narrative baby#but also b)#i would say that s1e2 literally has dean tied up in a cave needing to be rescued#like i am not playing this game. but i could and you wouldn't like it#c) what fucking category am i supposed to put this in#like i have a fucking contents page with clear descriptions of what im tracking. WHY ARE YOU EXPECTING ME TO TRACK EVERY.... EVERYTHING????#i cant#i wont#if you want to keep track of all the times sam's in danger#BE MY FUCKING GUEST#but i literally LITERALLY NEVER SAID I WAS GOING TO DO THAT#AND IM NOT#d) dean saves sam and lori together twice at the end of this ep. like that's it. “repeatedly” ok bro.#not to repeat myself but in the ghost hunting show#sometimes the ghost almost gets u#e) but if you look at how often sam or dean are used as bait#its 13 (sam) to FOURTY-FIVE (dean)#replying clarifying trying
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Now, again not sure if anyone else has posted about this yet, but one of the first things I noticed when originally snooping around for Dream’s house (and Quackity’s torture supply room full of chests), were random buried chests hidden about the main server area (likely to keep people from stealing I assume) most aren’t full of anything too interesting some have the building materials for a nearby build, some are empty, and some just have junk. However, there are three hidden chests buried right by Dream’s old secret base that are filled with interesting goodies.
In the large one marked in green is a pretty good set of nethrite gear, unnamed and some other odds and ends, including two image maps (I don’t have the plug in to view properly). I theorize that this might be a backup set Dream stashed away for emergencies or something. It would make sense, who knows how long ago though.
The other two chests highlighted in orange are located in this tiny red stone room, which I think might be for a secret door or something. In the small one is a hazmat suit, some contracts and other random books as well as SAMNOOKS’S IRON WILL, leading me to 1) ask the question: why are Sam’s weapons all extensions of his Will and 2) believe this must be where Sam stashes his stuff for switching between characters. Specifically, Samnook as it is conveniently placed under the Hotel.
This is further supported by the assortment of books in the large chest. Including the prison Questionnaire Dream signed, all 3 of the books Tommy signed in his visit to the prison (labeled Big T), and 2 WARDEN ACCESS cards plus a favor book for Badboyhalo.
Not gonna lie I thought the warden access at first confirmed this was Dream’s but the Samnook sword certainly says otherwise :(… still it’s interesting.
#dsmp map findings#dsmp map#dsmp scavenger hunt#dsmp#dreblr#c!sam#sam nook#dream smp#dsmpblr#dsmp analysis#so many key cards everywhere… did yall noticed that?
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dsmp lesbian analysis post
this was based on a misreading of a different post so now im rating how lesbian dsmp characters are. no real criteria just going off of vibes from a lesbian. based vaguely on how lesbian they are and how much they might identify as lesbian
C!Phil- (4/10)-he has a wife so thats something. he's kinda forgone most identities by this point he just does what he wants
C!Tubbo-(1/10)-im sorry thats just some binary gay transmasc guy. he may have briefly been a lesbian in his early teens so he had an extremely on the spot explanation for schlatt abt dressing masc but he likes men (a lot) so he never really had any attachment to the label
C!Ranboo-(3/10)-they arent really interested in women but he's got a lesbian gender thing goin on. guy with a weird relationship to femininity
C!Dream-(2/10)-she actually is a lesbian but no ones told her that yet and she's probably not gonna figure it out on her own. mamacita was an egg cracking experience
C!George-(0/10)-im sorry i dont see it
C!Niki-(10/10)- trans curious bisexual woman who wears a trench coat and has ratty dyed pink hair and knows how to tie a lot of different kinds of knots and not for boat reasons. she's having a full boar gender and sexuality crisis starting during the election. dyke as a gender identifier probably wouldn't occur to her but she'd like it a lot. she'd also like the old flag with the axe
C!Sam-(2/10)-not really a lesbian at all but if puffy squints hard enough while theyre making out sad style she can act like he's a cute butch
C!Fundy-(3/10)-he doesnt really call himself a lesbian but whenever he has a crush on a woman he in his head says he's being gay for her. accidentally postponed niki's sexuality crisis by transitioning to a guy
C!Punz-(10/10)-look at him. look at him. butch lesbian who kinda acts like a dog for the girl she's obsessed with. religious horror toxic devotion yuri buff lady general tragedy we got it all. also tommyinnit certified look
C!Hbomb-(3/10)-she's mostly straight but a lot of her admiration of other women and learning to do femininity in a way she likes kinda aligns her with lesbians. she believes in their beliefs
C!Sapnap-(??/10)-kinda in a quantum state of lesbianism for me. could go either way honestly. if her fiances want her to be a girl she can be
C!Karl-(9/10)-karl set off everyone's lesbian radar they didn't know they had which was really confusing cause it presented like a gay cis guy for a long while. tubbo just happens to ask her abt gender once on a whim n she's like oh no im a girl thing :3 and everyone else freaks out cause it was just not correcting them. it likes flamboyant masc fashion and being confusing
C!Quackity-(10/10)-watch the quackhalo date stream if you haven't yet i'm begging you. bigender transfem girlguy guygirl who wants to be someone's girlfriend and have a girlfriend or multiple or many. she's running the full gambit of presentation in a bunch of combos
C!Badboyhalo-(5/10)-Quackity brings out the lesbian in her (she's a closeted transfem lady and it makes her very flustered when she realizes q's calling her his girlfriend.) the bigboobies in bigboobyhalo are the result of lots and lots of estrogen
C!Wilbur-(0/10) he doesnt know lesbians are real
C!Puffy-(7/10)-the best way i can describe puffy's gender is that she is earnestly trying to be as confusing contradictory and horny as possible and it's working. she's a lesbian but only when she's a guy or just extremely down bad for some lady and if you called her a dyke she'd moan
C!Slimecicle-(7/10)-lesbian as a gender thing. he doesn't like using typical words to describe his gender but lesbian is the closest to standard it'll go
C!Hannah-(10/10)-she likes women. A LOT. and also worked hard to become one. just a lot about women going on in her life
C!Schlatt-(???/10)-he's got some shit to sort through n maybe that'll be a realization he makes down the road
C!Foolish-(2/10)-if you tried hard enough you could make him one
C!Tina-(10/10)-many of her actions are motivated by the need to kiss a girl with teeth
C!Eret-(8/10)-strong yuriful vibes
C!Tommyinnit-(9/10)-they are fucking ATTACHED to that label you can pry it from their cold dead hands. she also likes boys n is more platoniromantic than anything but. lesbian critter right there it's important to her
C!Aimsey-(-1000/10)-killed your wife idiot
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I bet C had fans come up on stage because people would be less likely to ask inappropriate or troubling questions in the hot seat looking her in the eye.
That's not a bad theory Anon. It's not easy to look someone in the eye on stage and try to masterfully pry and call out their bullshit. And Cait would certainly be feeling low key paranoid at these fan events. Not to worry though; she has that douche bag handler Steve who is more than ready to ring the narrative bell and save her.
On another note, and something that I found rather interesting, it was reported by Sgiandubh, who received her information from people on the ground, that Cait was very 'touchy feely' and a "hugger" during her interactions with fans. This analysis or characterisation was also shared by many other fans who attended the same event. Many have been gushing over how cuddly and tactile Caitriona is.
So someone please answer me this. If Caitriona McGill can give her fans (who are total strangers) warm and fuzzy hugs and cuddles in public and as much as 3 hugs each, which requires full body contact, then why the fuck does she look like this every single time she is with her supposed husband? 👇👇
Why is her body language configured in a way that is literally the antithesis to tactile and a "hugger"? Why does she look repulsed at the thought of touching him? And why is it that it's only around her supposed husband that she looks like she has a 10 foot pole rammed up her backside? Of course these are rhetorical questions.
She herself had said that "Sam is a great hugger" and "gives the best hugs." The girl clearly values a good hug. Tony couldn't give a fuck let alone a hug 😜
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Do you ever think about how c!Sam admitted to liking it. Not in so many words, not directly — “No, you know what? You’re right, I’m not sorry. I’m not. If the- If the roles were reversed I would- I would do it now. I would- I would do it now. [in reference to c!Quackity’s role as torturer].” (Daedalus stream 1) and “Maybe next time it won’t be Quackity who comes into the cell. Maybe it will- Maybe it will be me!” (Right After Techno Escapes Prison)
He still tried to hide it - “That’s what you wanted to hear? You want the truth? You wanna be real to each other? Yeah. What’s real is… I… was looking forward to every time Quackity would come because I was excited that that was the time that he was to come in here and he would get the revive book from you and we could… kill you off for the last time and be done with this. That’s what I was excited for.” (Daedalus stream 1) the way he pauses is very telling like he realizes his mistake and quickly comes up with the reason for looking forward to c!Quackity’s visits, despite insisting on more than one more calm occasion that he’d let c!Dream live in the prison if he gave up the book. But in the heat of the moment, fired up by c!Dream, just like c!Quackity, c!Sam admits even if slightly, to his enjoyment him ‘looking forward to it.’
He never apologizes nor regrets at most he admits that he perhaps is not pure and good just as many people aren’t. He recognizes that what he did hurt others but that’s basically it. Just as c!Quackity knew he was hurting others. But neither regret it. Both stand behind their convictions and reasons: of c!Dream deserving it, of getting the revive book. Using those to justify the cruelty they enjoyed…
do you guys ever think about how c!quackity LIKED the torture. Like straight-up admitted to liking it. Fully with his whole chest embraced sadism. Doesn't regret it. Never recants any of this out loud. Never opens the door to the possibility that he was wrong.
Tortures a guy for three months straight, then shrugs and goes back to his day job.
#I mean he straight up chops the arm off of his lover and just returns to life like everything if fine… perfectly normal day as the warden#I can’t help but imagine how hard it is to be torture by two sadist hiding behind self righteousness#to be tortured for months pointlessly because they were never going to get what they wanted and they had to know that#to be called evil and deserving of such cruelty by those literally enjoying inflicting it…#… ok welp I’m gonna be thinking about this for the rest of the day… thanks? XD#did someone order an essay?#dreblr#c!dream#dsmp#dream smp#pandora's vault#c!sam and c!dream#dsmp analysis#daedalus arc#c!quackity#c!dream and c!quackity#on the house#c!sam#prison trio#no one does it like c!dream#pandora’s vault has a singular purpose
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HElllo hi i heard you were willing to ramble about egg lore? (<- knows nothing about egg lore but somehow ended up writing a fic about the egg and i need to pay for my sins)
Oh boy. Where do we fucking BEGIN! (This answer will be late and probably go on so many side tangents) Alright, so I'm just gonna recap the "smaller" events leading up to and surrounding the early part of the egg lore first. The Egg arc was so long I could probably make several long posts JUST for recapping the general events that happened in roughly chronological order as well as important tidbits to the egg lore. That's assuming either the ADHD spurred motivation fuel I'm running on while writing this doesn't dry up, or that I get the kind of motivation to write more posts this long from other asks like this. I'll also try to do more seperate posts on the more lore analysis-y side of the egg arc. So like how the egg's story was impacted on a more meta scale by the way the dsmp's story over all was being played out at the time by its' creators, the implications of its existance in both dsmp fanon and canon... IF I'm motivated to that is.
The Egg arc began when c!Badboyhalo found the "egg" in his statue room, which he was digging out to make way from the Dreamon Hunters (totally different lore plot, but that's for another niche dsmpblr blog) He soon showed it to c!Sam and c!Dream, and for context those two had been terraforming a part of the SMP close by the Badlands and therefore the statue room in order for Sam to complete the giant mega prison Dream had hired him to construct.
Bad was immediately drawn to the "egg" (which was called that because of it's shape and not because at that point it was confirmed the thing was an egg), where as both Dream and Sam were immediately weirded out by Bad's sudden affinity for it and the own bad vibes it gave off to both of them. Shortly after leaving the statue room, they spotted red vines growing by first by Hutt's Pizza - and then shortly after at Bad and Skeppy's mansion. This was extra concerning because they reasoned no player could have spread those growths up there on the surface, to those two different locations, in the time they were all down in the cave. This creeped Dream out enough he tried to manually remove the growth at the pizza place. This caused Bad to become agressive and he attacked Dream for 'hurting it', reasoning that the vines were beautiful. And it spread even more rapidly after that, with red vines being spotted growing around Jschlatt's grave, even on the Power Tower in L'manberg. Bad became even more attached to the egg and it's various offshoots, even nicknaming the egg "baby".
At this point most people on the server who interacted with the egg were, understandably were uncomfortable with the rapid spread of the vines and Bad's weird devotion to it. (Execptions to that being c!Puffy, c!Ponk and c!Antfrost who agreed with him) Bad and Ant eventually both started hearing voices from the egg, commanding them to spread the vines even further, while Puffy also started exhibiting the extreme fawning and obsession over the egg at that point. (She nicknamed it Eggy) Bad and Ant actively started spreading the vines; at c!Punz's tower and Sam's base. They also started urging other people to follow them back to where the Egg's main structure was, presumably in order to persuade more people over to becoming obsessed with said Egg. Sam tried putting a stop to this by trying to move the egg's structure physically, but he was stopped by Bad and Ant. The conflict was broken up when Punz came over, and remarked that he found the egg strange but "ultimately harmless." (Punz later elaborated that he was actually neutral on the egg and leaning towards viewing it as a potential threat, but to avoid direct conflict just wanted to see how everything would unfold. He also refused a proposal from Sam to fight Bad and Ant should the need arise.) Ponk was yet another case of someone initially opposing the egg but coming to view it favoriably. He had seemingly mixed opinions for a while, admiring the beauty of the vines but also being creeped out by the degree of devotion Bad, Ant and Puffy were showing to the egg over all. Ponk Eventually went to visit the Egg's main room and actually touched it. Like Bad and Ant, he reported hearing the egg make audible noises. Unlike Sam and Ant, he did not apperantly hear distinct words but rather "growling". Overtime, Ponk started referring to the egg as beautiful as well. Also he too began pushing for Sam to "join the egg" Leaving off here, with the next post (if it happens) being on the canonical timeline of events leading to most of the egg's followers disinfecting at that point, until probably the establishment of the proper eggpire. And then the red banquet of course gets it's own special post.
#thanks for the ask!#the wren calls#this took so long to answer because I went back through findingjoyinweirdstuff's archived recaps week by week#and tried tracking down as many of the vods/videos I could for all of this#dream smp#dsmp#dsmp lore#egg arc#eggpire#dsmpblr#c!badboyhalo#c!sam#c!dream#c!puffy#c!antfrost#c!punz#c!ponk#egg lore#I do not know how much more clear I have to be
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Now that we have more info and access, let's talk about Quackity's tools shall we...
On day one, Quackity brings a pair of unenchanted shears and Sam gives him WARDENS WILL and WARDENS HAMMER as well as some item frames (which as an aside I’ve always thought is such an unhinged inclusion…).
Thus completing the trifecta of torture tools that we see in the montage later [clip]. :]
But we also know that it doesn’t end there, because in the other 2 visits we get to see he actually doesn’t even use Sam weapons (besides WARDENS TORMENT), so we know there are other undefined tools, which is why it’s so exciting to now be able to see inside chests and inventories because now we can analyze and speculate to kinda determine what those tools might have been and their enchantments (and perhaps the implications of their enchantments)…
So, for starters, in that same montage it also shows Quackity grabbing tools from a room and throwing them on the floor [seen below], which ends up being what looks like 3 neitherite axes, 3 netherite swords, and 1 pair of shears, likely implying that multiple weapons of the same type were also used (further supported by the fact that we see him use both WARDENS HAMMER and a netherite axe with low durability). Tragically, this storage room stocked with netherite weapons doesn’t exist on the map [post] :( so instead I’m gonna determine what I think are the most likely candidates from the chests in the prison, Las Nevdas, Quackity’s inventory and Sam’s inventory.
Now I’m gonna assume that 1 of the 3 axes thrown on the ground and 1 of the 3 swords are WARDENS HAMMER and WARDENS WILL, because there are not enough reasonable or qualifying sword or axe options in the locations we have to look at (this of course all based on the assumption that they aren’t in this storage room on the other map they filmed it on or didn’t have Mending and broke).
The second axe dropped I’m gonna say is the one with low durability seen in both the streams where he tries to get Dream to write the letter and the one with Techno later, which matches the one in Quackity’s ender chest with Efficiency V and mending. This axe is pretty interesting for the fact that is does not have sharpness on it, perhaps that is because that does too much damage. It’s low durability makes a lot of sense based on the lack of Unbreaking, and the Mending actually confirms what I had already theorized based off of the bottles of enchanting in his inventory when he visits rivals duo, which certainly has some implications about how much he used this axe to the point he needed to mend it mid session…
After the 2 axes, we see a sword and again I’m gonna just say this is WARDENS WILL. The last axe I’m gonna say is most likely the one in Quackity’s inventory with Efficiency V, Fortune III, Mending, Sharpness V, Unbreaking III. This one has much more durability, perhaps because of the Unbreaking or because we don’t see it in the visits we get, maybe because it has Sharpness V he doesn’t use it as much.
The second sword I’m gonna say is also one from his inventory called SPIDER MASTER 2000 with Bane of Arthropods V, Fire Aspect, Unbreaking III, and Mending. Based on the name and Arthropods, this sword was likely made for the purpose of farming xp in the spider farm, but I’d say it’s not unreasonable to think Quackity used it for other things too. Makes me wonder if that Athropods enchantment has any strange effect on a person. And don’t even get me started on the Fire Aspect. :]
The third sword I’m gonna say is this one in a chest in the prison with Knockback II, Looting III, Mending, Sharpness V, Sweeping Edge III, and Unbreaking III, for 2 reasons 1) the chest it is in includes building items such as Quartz and Smooth Stone [highlighted in yellow] which are not present in the prison but are in multiple areas of Las Nevadas and 2) It has full durability, but has Mending to explain that unlike the other nethrite swords in the prison (minus the Guard Sword, which I doubt he let Q use) and Sam’s inventory, all with high durability. Perhaps we could make up some reason like perhaps using the Sweeping Edge or Knockback to explain the full durability and why it’s in a chest in the prison. Perhaps it is Sam’s sword but Quackity was miss using it or the enchantments on it made it too dangerous or something, so Sam made him heal it and return it. Maybe that’s why he stops giving Quackity his Warden weapons too… who knows.
Then we see a pair of unenchanted shears, which we see him with in his first visit and the one with rivals duo. Give that shears durability doesn’t last long in general and that these are unenchanted, it’s probably reasonable to say that he perhaps broke and brought multiple pairs of unenchanted shears so to pin down the specific pair isn’t great, but we do see a pair in a hidden chest under the Needle in Las Nevadas (and irl wise it’s not like they did 80 scenes of torture so this could technically be the pair from the rivals duo stream (and maybe even the first visit)). Especially since it also has a pair of iron pants and an enchanted diamond sword like we see in his inventory during that stream. An enchanted diamond sword also appears in the letter visit and I’m gonna say they are both this sword with Sharpness I. It has higher durability than the one seen in the rivals visit, but perhaps he healed it with a diamond or something. This diamond sword is pretty interesting in the fact that it isn’t netherite like the ones shown in the montage, so it also than does less damage, even more so due to the minimum enchantments. Perhaps that’s what makes it such a good option for torture as it doesn’t do too much damage and kill Dream on accident.
During the rivals duo visit, we also see WARDENS TORMENT which to my suprise only has Unbreaking III not Mending. We also see an unenchanted diamond pickaxe. Now we could say he only brought the pickaxe with the purpose of getting his revenge or we could take it as a sign that he used pickaxes too outside of just shears, swords and axes. After all, WARDENS WILL BREAKER is the name of Sam’s pickaxe, so surely it was used when trying to break Dream’s will (and if that then perhaps the netherite pickaxe in Quackity’s inventory as well).
Furthermore, when Quackity runs into George outside the prison, we see him carrying an enchanted diamond pickaxe likely the same one in his inventory with Fortune II and Unbreaking III, which I’d say can be reasonably assumed to have been used inside the prison (perhaps just for convenience sake). Especially because, also in his inventory at the time is a stack of seeds, which appears in the chest with the enchanted diamond sword and shears which we already determined were likely used.
So, those are all the things we can more reasonably conclude with some reasonings and conclusions definitely stronger than others. Even further though if we wanted to really start to theorize, there is an also an argument to be made (that I’ve actually highlighted before [posts - <> <>]) that if he uses pickaxes why not also shovels? And hoes? And maybe even one of Sam tridents, perhaps WARDENS MERCY with Channeling [post]? [potential weapons used highlighted in red] I don’t know, it’s really mostly all theoretical but fun to think about anyways, I mean we do have Quackity’s comment in the letter visit, “I’ll show you which one I’ll use this time around.” [clip] and Dream’s comment to Foolish, “Sam, you know, let him in the prison, let him bring in tools—and shears, and they tried to torture the revive book out of me…” [clip] which does somewhat support the reasoning for more variety of tools. After all, why doesn’t Dream say weapons and shears? Seems to me like you’d use tools to include the shears, cuz swords and axes are just weapons. (We can obviously explain this away for many reason but that’s besides the point). Plus I mean based off of what Dream said in Daedalus as noted we tend to like to reasonably assume a knife and chair was involved (further supported by ccSam if we chose to believe his unhinged comments lol XD), and that certainly opens the door for other things…
#:]#this is fine#prison arc#let me cook#dsmp analysis#dsmp map#dreblr#c!dream#c!quackity and c!dream#c!sam and c!quackity#c!loudduo#c!awesamdream#dsmp#c!quackity#dsmp scavenger hunt#hope you enjoyed by unhingedness… I might talk about what random purposes we can come up with for other things in these inventories & chest#mmmm…. torture box brain rot :)#(ignore the fact that wardens will pic is of Sam and not my inventory :(…. that sword is mia apparently)#tumblr…. I need more colors pls color coding is nice :)
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Terror Camp 2023's Panel Lineup Announcement is here!
We are so excited to hear from all of these amazing presenters over two days in December 🤩👏
Posters, artists alley tablers, and keynote speakers will be announced over the next few weeks, as well as the link to RSVP, so make sure you sign up for our mailing list on our website!
Without further ado:
Terror Day - Saturday, December 9
Panel A: Primary Sources
"old Harvey (a mulatto)": Sailors of Colour on British Arctic Expeditions (1848-1859), Edmund Wuyts
"Do attend to your orthography": spelling as history in Franklin Expedition Letters, Reg
Relic or Artefact; an Analysis of Polar Artefacts in Museum Catalogues, Ash
Panel B: Historical Persons
Thomas Holloway: Pills, Palaces, and The Accursed Bears, Verity Holloway
"Scarface" Charley Tong Sing: A Chinese-American on the Jeannette, In the Papers, and Afterwards, Han
Failsons of Hudson Bay, Jas Bevan Niss
“Nor will it yield to Norway or the Pole”: Roald Amundsen as Shakespearean Tragedy, Ireny
Panel C: Cultural Understandings and the Arctic
How Fares the Raft of the Medusa?: Mutiny, Cannibalism, and the Portrayal of History, Brianna Lou
“This Place Wants Us Dead”: The Terror and Folk Horror, Allison Raper
Icebound, Not Down, Hester Blum
Erebus Day - Sunday, December 10
Panel D: Death and Narratives of Death
"Known to all the youth of the Nation": Scott's Sacrifice in Children's Literature, Branwell
What We Talk About When We Talk About Quest, Caitlin Brandon
Funny to think of it as coming home: football, exploration, and the stories we tell ourselves, Rach
Panel E: The Allure of the Antarctic
From the South Pole to the Stars, Emma
The Feminine(?) Antarctic, Sam Botz
There and Back Again: In the Antarctic with Ross and Crozier, Phil Mikulski
Antarctic Roundtable
Out of the Rookery: An exploration of science and survival on Shackleton's Endurance, with Rebecca, Meg, and Avery
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And honestly that’s still too nice. They are the worst… Though if unreliable is the tamest word for c!Sapnap and c!George, what is the kindest description for c!Sam and c!Quackity he could say if forced?… Greedy? Corrupt?…
So C!Punz definitely has a baseline level of rage for the denizens of The SMP due to the whole “Cares about C!Dream.” thing, but C!George and C!Sapnap probably have a special place in his heart for how specifically he hates them. “Unreliable” would probably be his kindest descriptor for them if he was forced to be honest.
#ok it’s hard to think of tame descriptors for those two XD#dsmp#c!staged duo#c!punz#c!sapnap#c!george#on the house#dreblr#c!dream#dsmp analysis#dream smp#c!sam#c!quackity#staged duo
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