#byers hopper family

[bylerblogger]

Will Byers is going to beat up someone in season 5 btw.

[foreverautumn89]

Jonathan's mix tape for Will S1

When you watch the scene from S1 when Will is in the hospital and just came back from the upside down and Jonathan already has a new mix tape already made for Will and you ask yourself how he made that so fast when he just spent a large portion of time thinking Will was dead.

And you realize that Jonathan was still making mix tapes for Will to listen to after he thought Will was dead and never coming back.

Realizing that Jonathan would have just listened to that alone in his room crying and thinking of Will who'd he never see again.

[hopelessromanfic]

i noticed something today…

in all the byers siblings bedrooms there’s this little box on the wall:

wills:

els:

jonathans:

and i thought hmm, wtf are those and then i found these on google:

so they all have little intercoms in their rooms??

imagine them just making stupid little announcements throughout the day/night whereas joyce just uses it to tell everyone dinner is ready/goodnight/good mornings

the possibilities are endless

[brionysea]

you guys don't get it. no one's giving mike a shovel talk once he starts dating will. no one. not even hopper

can you imagine mike wheeler, a queer boy in the 80s, knowing the byers family since he was like five or six years old and getting along with them fine, until he starts dating will and then suddenly they're saying they'll kill him if he fucks up? right after he's trusted them with the life threatening knowledge that he's in a relationship with another boy?

this being the same kid who almost died for standing up to homophobia (which was about will but directed at mike) when he was 12?

no. never ever happening.

not a single person in this family is that clueless. joyce would've ripped hopper a new one if he admitted to so much as yelling at mike. jonathan understands will's queerness and the necessity of keeping some things secret. hopper saw the possibility of will's disappearance being a hate crime and didn't stop pursuing the case. el saved mike's life like a billion times

no, they're not giving the queer kid who's just come out to them in the middle of the aids pandemic a shovel talk. they're just not.

[hawkwidows]

are we sure they’re not blood related? 🤔

[medievalatrocities]

yeah im doing so fine rn hahah

[byler-alarmist]

No, the naming thing with the Hopper-Byers family is too weird for it not to mean something.

Jim, Joyce, Jonathan, Jane, and.... Will?

C'mon, what are the chances the completed family unit were all J names but Will. It's WEIRD

[groovinrightalong]

Thinking about Hopper and Will…

[fizzseed]

thinking about el hearing about lonnie byers for the first time. thinking about el learning how he treated will and jonathan. thinking about "so... he is like papa?"

"no, he's nothing like... papa."

"but he hurt you?"

"well, yeah, but..."

thinking about el finding out that both will and jonathan know how to shoot guns and have known since they were little. thinking about el seeing the shake in their hands when they hold a rifle and their aim remaining steady. thinking about el learning that will is ashamed of who he is, that he's always been ashamed.

"but i also like boys?"

"it's different for me, el."

"did he tell you that?"

el understanding that maybe there was a reason will and jonathan took so easily to her as a sibling, that they were so understanding about her peculiarities. that maybe they didn't refrain from screaming and yelling and loud noises just for her sake.

[friendsdontlieokay]

To the people who say that Jonathan doesn't care about El, let me remind you that Jonathan was the one who decided to rescue El, he was the one to make the plan and he was the one who drove across the country to get her back. Sure, he isn't as friendly to her as he is with Will or he would be with her if Joyce adopted her in the first seasons but he is Jonathan Byers dude, the protective sense especially for his siblings comes number 1 at his priority list plus caring about his siblings is engraved well and permanently in his system, it's like his default.

[phinamina]

[foreverautumn89]

Karen and Jonathan need more scenes together

Karen's dynamic with Jonathan is so cute. Their scenes together are so rare but its clear she adores Jonathan. Words cant describe how much I appreciate this woman for always being so kind to Jonathan when the rest of the town isn't [I mean Hawkins townspeople not main characters].

Karen coming to visit Joyce and check in on her in S1E3: How is Jonathan holding up? She is one of the rare few concerned about his well being at that time and asking about him wanting to make sure hes ok.

s1e8

KAREN: Hey, boys.

- Hey, Mrs. Wheeler.

Hey, wish your mom a merry Christmas for me, okay?

- Yeah.

- Yeah, thank you. Uh, merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas.

S2E3

Jonathan?

Mrs. Wheeler.

-What a pleasant surprise. [So cute how shes so happy to see Jonathan there]

---

- Bye! It's good to see you.

She loves Jonathan so much. It's so adorable. I love her mother son dynamic with him and we need a lot more scenes of it.

[onlyhereforbylerlol]

Random thought bc I'm now rewatching s4: a while back, I saw someone say that Joyce and Will shouldn't have let El do her project of hopper bc they knew that she would get bullied for it but I assume that Will probably did say something about it to her but she got defensive and started being stubborn about it and Will didn't want to hurt her feelings so he probably just dropped it. Idk just something I thought about.

[secrettellerssociety]

[infinite-orangepeel]

stopping in to remind you on this holiday that found family is just as real and legitimate as the people you happen to share your genetics with ! contrary to popular belief, you can choose your family (though it may not always feel like it). take care of yourself today & merry christmas to all who celebrate ❣️

[wheatnoodle]

there’s a dynamic shift when hopper moves in. there’s a father back in the picture.

jonathan does not have good experiences with fathers.

now, he likes hop, he really does. jim’s great to his mom, an incredible dad for el, and he helped save will. jonathan and hopper liking each other is not the issue.

the problem is that when hopper gets angry, he yells. and he likes to have a couple beers at night. and he calls jonathan “kid” like how he used to. so jonathan, who’s already a quiet person, is now next to silent. he speaks when spoken to, doesn’t leave his room and tiptoes on the hardwood floors.

it gets on jim’s nerves. he thought they were a good family. he thought they all got along just fine but now he’s moved in with them, and jonathan is acting like a ghost in his own home. he’s tried to talk to joyce, she tells him to “give him time”.

so hopper is sitting at the kitchen table one night after dinner, reading through the day’s reports. joyce is helping el with her math homework and will is sketching in a notepad next to her. jonathan’s washing up the dishes, scrubbing a glass with this one spot that just won’t. come. off.

and it slips. and glass is shattered on the kitchen floor. jonathan is on the ground in an instant to pick it up, slicing his palm on a shard.

“sh-shit, sorry, im sorry. i- i didn’t mean to, im sorry,” he’s apologizing before he can stop himself.

“honey!” joyce gasps and hurries over, squatting next to him. she places a hand on his shoulder and he looks up, eyes huge and glazed over. “honey, what happened?”

hopper crouches down. goes to grab jonathan’s injured hand. jonathan jolts up, backs up so fast he slams into the counter and hits the back of his head on the overhead cabinet doors.

“i promise i didn’t mean to, ill clean it, i’ll- i’ll fix it, i’m sorry.” jonathan’s shaking his head back and forth, cradling his hand to his chest with his eyes squeezed shut. his breathing is shaking his shoulders. “please, please, please, im so sorry.”

“hey, kid,” jonathan flinches at the name, “it’s okay. nothing to apologize for.”

jim nods once at joyce. she understands and manages to usher el and will into their rooms. she rejoins them soon after. jonathan is still shaking in the same place while hopper is trying to approach him.

hopper lifts a hand and runs it over his face. he doesn’t miss the way the teen’s face cringes up. like he’s waiting for something. like he’s waiting for…jim looks at his own hand and back to jonathan.

“jonathan.”

“i didn’t mean to break it. i swear.”

“i know. it was an accident. accident’s happen.” it’s the calmest joyce has ever heard jim speak. his voice is low, easy and soothing. he’s quiet. he’s warm. she’s watching from the doorway as he opens a new side to himself, just for her kid. just for what he needs.

“im sorry.”

“it’s okay. can i come closer?” jim asks gently, takes a small step forward. jonathan tenses and he stops. “okay. okay. can i see your hand? it looks like you cut yourself pretty good on there.”

he hesitates, but jonathan holds his bleeding hand out, palm up. his arm trembles. he’s eyeing jim wearily, ready to run.

“i just want to look. maybe clean it, if you’ll let me. i’m not going to hurt you,” he says the last part in a tone that sounds like a promise. jonathan stays silent, staring at his hand.

“hey, can you look at me?” jonathan looks up, meets his eyes with terror washed over his own. “i am not going to hurt you.”

“but- dad-“

“lonnie isn’t here. i’m not lonnie. i am not going to hurt you. i will, eyes on me, i will never. hurt you.” jim steps forward again, into jonathan’s space this time. he doesn’t flinch this time, stays where he is as hopper bends his knees a bit to be eye level with him.

“lonnie-“

“is not here,” he’s even quieter, letting the words be heard just for him. “you are safe with me. you hear me? you. are safe. with me.”

jonathan’s subconsciously matching his breathing to jim’s, his eyes never leaving the man’s gaze.

“good work. can you say it?”

“i…am safe. with you,” jonathan whispers, his shoulders slumping tiredly.

“nice job, bud. you are safe. im not angry with you. i will never hurt you. never. okay? you’re my boy,” hopper says it like it’s always been true. like even before he was with joyce, way back to making house visits when lonnie would get violent. and he would see jonathan, only this tiny little kid, and even then, that’s his boy. his oldest. his son.

jonathan visibly relaxes, moving forward and shocking both jim and joyce as he plants his forehead into jim’s shoulder. he doesn’t hug him, just stays there. hopper brings a hand to rest on the back of his head, stroking comfortingly through his hair.

“get something comfy on, we’ll watch a movie or something and relax. but first, let’s go clean up this hand.” and hopper walks with jonathan down the hall, past joyce, a hand on his lower back and jonathan still pressed to his side. joyce cant help that she has tears in her eyes, smiling brightly at her husband as he walks past, protecting her son. he smiles back, warm and full of love.

this is progress.