#but with alice they just left her????
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songofpurple-summer Ā· 1 month ago
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i donā€™t think Agatha actually figured out who teen is, i think another spirit or something also escaped in the trial and is possessing her. because all through this show and wandavision, Agatha has flair and sense of humor and in that last scene, she was justā€¦mean. not to mention whatever was going with her powers right before that. plus i donā€™t see how she couldā€™ve suddenly figured out who he is, when just last episode she had no idea, and he doesnā€™t have any obvious connection to Wanda unless you already know. so i think something, either dead or from the multiverse, that knows about Wanda and Billy is possessing her.
also this trial didnā€™t even really make sense?? the last two got solved by everyone working together and connecting, whereas this one was so sudden with no resolution and the last scene of the episode felt like some outside force was hijacking the trial, because there was no real ending to the trial.
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paperglader Ā· 4 months ago
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they really put alicent in bridgerton blue on the reunion and genuinely expected me to think that she didnā€™t in fact march all the way to dragonstone to get wifed up? bfr
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#I am only a girl living in a society#I make connections#she looks so pretty in blue though I want more#also youā€™re telling me that rhaenyra saw her walk in all cute looking to not completely crumble at the sight of her?#like my girl got all dolled up for you do something#rhaenyra IS a puppy dog when it comes to those bambi eyes shut up#Alicent was like you think you want her? Iā€™m the love of your life you moron#and rhaenyra is like I KNOW#like sheā€™s been trying to get the other woman to realize that very thing for the last 15+ years#and alicentā€™s all heartbroken like oh so youā€™re taking her to wife#and rhaenyra is like nO? WHAT?? all dumb and speechless cause jealous alicent was definitely not on her bingo card this year#whilst also having her own mental breakdown#because how on earth is she meant to explain this to her councel#or jace for that matter#that sure was goint to be a fun future conversation to have with her heir#but also Alicent just strutted into the room and started acting like a scorned wife?#which left rhaenyra feeling like the asshole parent who stopped paying for child support after the divorce#but also she never wanted a divorce in the first place?? and alicent doesnā€™t seem to get this?#like sheā€™s already figuring out how to most efficiently empty daemonā€™s chambers for the woman to move in permanently#but alicentā€™s still yapping off about not having a place in court anymore and fleeing across the sea#and rhaenyra canā€™t help the bitter taste in her mouth as she states how that ship came in a little too late for them and it is messyyyy#hotd leaks#house of the dragon leaks#hotd spoilers#house of the dragon#house of the dragon spoilers#rhaenicent#alicent hightower#rhaenyra targaryen#bridgerton
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prideprejudce Ā· 5 months ago
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while criston cole has an incredibly warped and misogynistic view of rhaenyra, he wasn't wrong about alicent being a good person at heart. unlike in the book, alicent isn't just upset at aemond for killing lucerys due to her fear of rhaenyra's wrath, but she genuinely feels sorrow over her former best friend losing her son. the scene of her lighting a candle for lucerys speaks SO MUCH for who she really is as a person under all the warped thinking and manipulation her father has spoon-fed to her for years
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whotfelsewantedtobelynnyx Ā· 1 month ago
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Chat, I regret to inform you that I have added a new hyperfixationā€¦soā€¦
Agatha All Along Incorrect Quotes!
Alice: Hold the fuck up.
Also Alice, crawling into Liliaā€™s lap: Itā€™s me. Iā€™m the fuck up. Hold me.
Rio: I have an idea!
Jen: No murder.
Rio, sighing petulantly: I no longer have an idea.
Lilia: I have a bad feeling about thisā€¦
Agatha: What do you mean?
Alice: Donā€™t you ever get that little voice in the back of your head that tells you if something is going to get you in trouble?
Agatha: No.
Jen: That actually explains so much.
Lilia: As far back as I can remember, Iā€™ve always had this little voice in my head telling me to ā€œlive it up today, because thereā€™s not gonna be a lot of tomorrowsā€.
Agatha: You do realize thereā€™s medication designed to get rid of those kinds of voices, right?
Teen: A bird flew in through my window and Iā€™m trying to befriend it.
*later*
Agatha: Why donā€™t you quit bothering me and go talk to your bird friend?
Teen: Matthew and I are not speaking at the moment.
*the coven, huddling together behind a makeshift shelter to shield themselves from repeated gunshots*
Alice, hastily shoving the others behind her so she can return fire: Agatha, do you have any idea who would want to shoot you?!
Agatha, squashed between Jen and Rio: Many people want to shoot me. I take great pride in that!
Jen, glaring at the group as she hands over bail money:
Alice, tapping her shoulder: What about Teen?
Jen, glaring more: Iā€™ve got to bail him out too? Whereā€™s Agatha?
Teen: No one called her. We used Liliaā€™s phone call to call Alice and Rioā€™s to call you. Then Rio used my phone call to vote for American Idol.
Rio: :)
Jen: Rio isnā€™t answering her phone.
Agatha: Here, Iā€™ll try.
Jen: Alice and I have tried six times each, what makes you think that-
Rio, picking up on the first ring: Hey, sweetheart.
Agatha: The ends always justify the means!
Jen: Do you know who said that?
Agatha: Was it Oprah or someone nice and great like that?
Jen: It was Machiavelli. A decidedly non-Oprah like person.
Jen: I bet you didnā€™t even finish the thing I asked you to get done!
Agatha: For your information, I most certainly did! Got it done last night!
Teen, whispering to Agatha: You didnā€™t get it done, did you?
Agatha, whispering back: I donā€™t even know what sheā€™s talking about.
Lilia: I am at a loss for words!
Teen, glancing at the camera like his mom like heā€™s on The Office: Despite being lost for words, Lilia yelled at us for the next 45 minutes.
Agatha, carrying SeƱor Scratchy out of the room:
SeƱor Scratchy: *snuggles under her chin*
Agatha, kissing his head: You are being punished. Please stop being adorable. I love you.
Teen: I got a trampoline tent for summer sleepovers!
Jen, whispering to the other adult witches: ā€¦think of all the sex.
Alice: There are two types of people.
Rio: If you wanted to eat someone, you could put a fire under it and slowly roast them :)
Lilia: ā€¦three. Three types of people.
Jen, cautiously: I canā€™t believe I didnā€™t notice this before, butā€¦Teen, you are a little crazy.
Teen: Arenā€™t we all a little crazy here, Jen?
Jen: No, I mean youā€™re aging-ballerina, child-chess-prodigy, professional magician kind of crazy.
Teen: Itā€™s my momā€™s fault. You know, we come from a Jewish family, but she used to tell me the reason Santa didnā€™t come was because my room was too dirty.
Rio: Iā€™ve come looking for trouble. And if I canā€™t find trouble, I WILL create some.
Alice: Do you trust me?
Lilia, smiling proudly at her: Yes.
Alice, who has been completely panicking: Wait, what? Why?!
Agatha, awkwardly glancing around for help: Erā€¦Alice, Iā€™m gonna be honest, I donā€™t know what to say to people who are crying. So Iā€™m just gonna hope that the tone of my voice makes you think I do, okay, sweetie?
Alice, sniffling: ā€¦thanks, Agatha.
Agatha, patting her on the back with a bit too much enthusiasm: No problem, kid.
Lilia: I told Agatha about it weeks ago!
Teen: She WHAT?
Agatha: What??? Lilia says insane shit all the time, how was I supposed to know this one was true?!
Lilia: Bank accounts are a sham created by the shadow government!
Agatha: SEE?!
BONUS:
Wanda, watching from the afterlife: soā€¦when exactly do kids grow out of that whole emo, rebellious stage?
Lorna, shrugging: I donā€™t know. Alice is still in it.
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navree Ā· 6 months ago
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"rhaenys could have ended the war by dracarysing all the greens right there" yes because a distant relation to the throne deciding to barbecue an anointed and publicly positively hailed king and his entire family who is well loved within the city and in multiple other parts of the country for the sake of the succession of a far-away princess no one was ever on board with who hasn't been seen by the populace in literal years, her psycho husband, her three obvious bastards, and two toddlers from the psycho husband would go over super well with westeros and especially in king's landing where scores of the still-cheering population were killed for no reason by that same dragon who would do the barbecuing, because when targaryens act unilaterally without thinking of how the people would react there's never any problem, which is why the storming of the dragonpit and robert's rebellion were actually just collective delusions dreamed up by readers who hate rhaenyra and not key parts of the story and house targaryen's history that directly contributed to their demise and are intrinsic to the plot
truly team black stans are made up of only the most genius and media literate amongst us
#personal#house of the dragon#anti team black#i mean i guess??#like the crowd was cheering for aegon HARD#and they were always on board with aegon#and the hightowers are a powerful house with a lot of allies#and alicent and helaena specifically were well loved by the people in king's landing and the realm at large#and none of them ever liked rhaenyra or daemon who again have been MIA for basically a decade already#and again targaryens overreaching their power and not taking the people into account#is the reason why their house fell into oblivion and now rests entirely on a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL WHO IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT#if she roasted the dais the mob wouldn't have even let her leave they'd have killed her and meleys both in a heartbeat#storming of the dragonpit but a couple months earlier#the thing to remember is that i think a lot of team black stans are just kinda stupid#and do not care about the story at all or the actual intricacies of the world and its politics that is so important to the dance#(remember the rumors of rhaenyra mistreating helaena and alicent literally led to rhaenyra's death)#(because it led to the mobs and the storming of the dragonpit and the death of joffrey and her being driven out)#(and thus having to go to dragonstone where sunfyre got a little meal out of the whole debacle good for him)#(along with all of her ten million other shitty political decisions)#how do you profess to be pro-targaryen without even knowing targaryen history and where they erred and how that ended them#like *i* like the targaryens you guys have heard me talk about the conquerors all the livelong day#but i am also smart and i understand the world george created and the concept of repercussions#anyway yeah i am Annoyed at that new daemon clip (wow what a shock something annoyed me and had daemon in it)#(my least favorite character who could have foreseen this)
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sukibenders Ā· 2 months ago
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Aegon, Aemond, Helaena, and Daeron looking at Alicent after she washes her hands of a war, that she (and Otto) dragged them into, and the throne, that she (and Otto) forced them to grasp/fight over even though they obviously didn't want it, and goes off to live her best life while they are all still stuck in a cycle forced on to them without their input (obviously this is about the s2 final):
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#anti hotd#like....what were they doing with alicent in s2? like-#in s1 they had great foundation for pushing her character and her belief as to why her children would be under threat from just existing#(even if u like rhae- understandable- it's not hard to take a step back & understand some of ali's pov#especially when daemon comes into the picture)#there's buildup for why she's forcing this on to her kids (murky but still) & still shows that she loves them in a complex way#heck there was even room to show her after all this also wanting to be close to the throne trailing into s2 whatever#but then s2 shits on that by making everything that happened in s1 hold no weight & ali (& otto) basically ruin their kids lives#like i like alicent but s2 makes no sense characterwise & makes her just...a bad character overall#like ive always felt bad for her kids bc ali was wrong a lot of times but u understand it bc toxic/complex family relationships where the#love is still there but it's complicated#but now post s2? i feel sorry bc their mother pushed them down a path and then left them to live her life?#HUH!?#fanfic writers save me!#aegon ii targaryen#aemond targaryen#heleana targaryen#daeron targaryen#alicent hightower#kind of...anti alicent hightower too?#hotd showrunners really ruined this family & it frustrates me so bad#dni if you can't have a collected conversation about this#like ā€œsorry sweeties mommy wants to makes amends with her childhood crush so rip!ā€#(& this is from someone who ships rhaenicent)
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alicent-archive Ā· 1 year ago
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like. the Red Keep is Alicentā€™s home, Alicentā€™s doom, her graveyard and abattoir. house of birth, house of death. the only place sheā€™s ever known and the only place sheā€™ll ever know. it killed her. but it raised her. she wants out. it canā€™t help but close in. it allowed him entry to her. she canā€™t forgive that. but where would she go? this is her home. but it killed her. she knew this. she remained. what is home if not the first place you die? like.
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apocalyptichearts Ā· 3 months ago
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contrary to popular belief, my grounded/permadeath play through isnā€™t taking me all this time because iā€™m bad at the game, but rather because i canā€™t not take a picture of alice every five minutes iā€™m with her.
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blackcat419 Ā· 5 months ago
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Alicentā€™s guilt plot line is just so boring. I bet you her guilt of Jaehaerysā€™ death will be dropped because Helaena forgives her and be moved towards her misunderstanding Viseryā€™s last words.
I personally donā€™t like guilt driven story lines when personal motivations should be stronger than just guilt. Guilt in stories is often ā€œI feel bad about Xā€ and rarely expands on it to be a personal motivation. It should be ā€œI feel bad about X so Iā€™ll do Yā€
Alicentā€™s story has been ā€œI feel bad about Jaehaerys/Helaena/Rhaenyraā€ what is she going to do about it? So far, nothing. Helaena has already forgiven her for her guilt over her and Jaehaerys so Alicent doesnā€™t have to have any personal motivations over that. That plot line has been resolved with literally nothing as pay off. Alicent didnā€™t change as a character and neither did Helaena.
I highly doubt Alicent will have any personal motivation grow from her guilt over misunderstanding Viserys. She will keep doing her ā€œletā€™s limit death toll, no dragons, Viserys was so good, gods I miss Rhaenyraā€ thing and not act on any of that. If we get Alicent trying to stop the war or becoming more forceful in pushing for Aegon to be king then we actually will get something from this guilt plot but I highly doubt it will happen.
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marysblo0d Ā· 4 months ago
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some of yā€™all have clearly forgotten about the ā€œreluctance to murder is not a weaknessā€ line and it shows
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nonbinarylesbianherb Ā· 5 months ago
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I've seen many people say Alicent walking away from Aegon, as well as other scenes of her failing to comfort her kids is her "lacking empathy" or something along those lines
I've seen a lot of people say that empathy is a basic human trait, and that "anyone" would've gone to him and provided some form of comfort (e.g hugging, apologising, etc.)
NEED people to recognise that not everyone shows empathy the same way. That not everyone recieves empathy in the same way. There are many reasons to as why Alicent walked away, 1. Maybe she was worried she would only make things worse. 2. maybe she thought he preferred to be left alone.
We can see very clearly the emotions of pain on her face. She wants to help but doesn't know how, she's not really close with her children. So she doesn't know if her providing him comfort by hugging/her presence in the room with him would make things better or worse. E.g, myself- I love my friends and family dearly but sometimes when I'm grieving I need to be left alone and someone coming to talk/hug/be with me, regardless if their intention is to help, will honestly make things worse than better.
There is no one way to show empathy nor one way to receive empathy. I don't think it's fair for people to say this about Alicent when we don't know at all if it would've helped. In my opinion it's a very black and white view of something that is an extremely complex thing.
Grief isn't the same for everyone. Comfort from others isn't always the answer to grief. Grief can be shown in many forms.
It reminds me of how Helaena got a lot of hate after the b&c scene, and people saying she had no empathy/care for her children due to her reaction. Not everyone reacts the same to these things. If you would kick and scream that's valid, but people, like Helaena who would dissociate from shock and trauma are valid as well.
We're all completely different individuals, billions of us. We all experience things and show things different. Just because we may experience things differently, doesn't mean we are lacking of empathy.
In my opinion, the only people who fail to have empathy are the ones who cannot comprehend this.
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bowl-of-fruit-loops Ā· 8 months ago
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hey why did billā€™s ex-wife move to clivesdale? literally no one from hatchetfield would do that. people die and go missing all the time and they refuse to leave. and if they do they donā€™t move to fucking clivesdale
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princessynezcorrino Ā· 7 months ago
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I wish there were as many Rhaenyra dedicated blogs as there are Alicent ones
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velvetjune Ā· 8 months ago
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the chapter songs in Alan Wake 2,, flawless
#they deserve more love and discussion#saying this while also not knowing what to say other than theyā€™re so fucking good#alan wake 2#i think itā€™s partially because poets of the fallā€™s tracks are iconic so of course theyā€™re in the spotlight (as deserved)#but also the CHAPTER SONGS. them being made for a given chatacter(s) with the help of Sam lakes poetry#the changes with ā€˜this roadā€™ by Poe with every Alan chapter. becoming more distorted and revealing lyrics and the spiral#the scratch song being 1) hilarious and 2) similar to Zaneā€™s poetry in the aw1 arg#the emotion in superhero when saga feels lost at the story making it so Logan was gone#the lines of her feeling like a ghost in this story forming around her.. how she feels guilty and absent for both what the storyā€™s doing#and being away from Logan because of her job. ashdhhhhjhh my heart#AND. follow you into the dark HAS to be alice. which kills me because at for at I thought of Alan#but no. Alice jumped in the dark place after him. itā€™s so !!!!!!!!!!!#the rabbit hole line. Alice spiraling deeper and deeper into a dreamā€”into wonderland#the Lost at Sea one is also good. intrigues me. the Bowie and Lynch references are blatantly aw2 Zane#but itā€™s so similar to diver Zane and the ā€˜originalsā€™ death. being lost in the dark place with illusions of escape#and losing any sense of identity. whether heā€™s real at all or the monster of this sea or just a lost soul.#the soft and calm vocals / instrumental really makes the whole thing#NEED to stop typing more tags because this is a Lot. however.#ā€˜no one left to loveā€™ is also a phenomenal song and one of my favorites from the album. GORGEOUS vocals and how it all flows together.#such a powerful and beautiful way to end a chapter#anyway thatā€™s all I had to say :)#god. Iā€™ve started to watch a few playthroughs of the game and 90% of people have skipped the chapter songs and every time im#thatā€™s fair but my brain and soul might implode if I donā€™t see anyone else talking about how good these songs are
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dirtytransmasc Ā· 1 year ago
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Alicent after her husband damns her children, the ones he forced onto her, the ones she carried and birthed and loved and spent her whole life protecting. after he leaves her, dying a pathetic death, leaving her and her children alone in the world, even more than he had before. after her children are robbed from her, meeting fates promised to them at birth, ones she tried so hard to change. after being left to roam an empty keep, the sounds of her children's antics now long gone. after hearing her own cries echo in the septs, but never reaching the gods, rattling the walls of her chambers, yet falling on deaf ears. Alicent after she decides she will be king, in her eldest's stead, she will weild her own sword in place of her most trusted friend and closest son, she will fill the world with her words like her daughter had, she will take revenge as she sees fit as her youngest had:
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heireign Ā· 24 days ago
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WHAT TAROT CARD ARE YOU ?
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JUSTICE ā€” what would you do to ensure justice? you know full well i donā€™t speak of lofty ideals and courts and magistrates, dearest. what would you do to those that hurt you? if I dropped them in your lap, what would you do? what kind of pain could you possibly inflict upon them? you are right to do so. you are right to want to do so. ignore the screaming, dearest, you are the hand of justice now, and they hurt you. do not look too closely at their faces, dearest. you are within your rights. you spell out your own rights, now. are you happy about it? are you certain that this is the right person you hold by the hair? does your anger hurt less now?
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#DASH GAMES //#her concept of justice and her concept of what makes things even is entirely ? it has its basis in what she considers fair and the black#and white nature of her own morality like itā€™s#her conceptualization of justice is set wholly in courts and the legality of the situation and the importance of oneā€™s sworn word in the#society she was brought up in#like IT IS based in ideals - it IS based in court#and like there has just šŸ˜­ been so much. thereā€™s so much - she canā€™t punish everyone whoā€™s attempted to diminish her or hurt her in any#sort of way because itā€™s all blurred into one consistent stream of things that she has ? she needs to let go of - she canā€™t respond to#every little thing when the allegations flung at her most post the birth of her children are that of high treason#like thereā€™s so much simmering anger that she just buried deeper and deeper until she can pretend it doesnā€™t exist#she doesnā€™t hurt alicent she doesnā€™t hurt helaena sheā€™s even reluctant to attack KL after Lukeā€™s death due to her fear of kinslaying like#she has her limits and that still is ? The people she would perceive as innocent and people like Alicent who ? in the book viserys loved an#in the show who she herself cared for like itā€™s#ā€˜ does your anger hurt less now ? ā€˜ no! it does not#because the price sheā€™s paid to successfully reclaim what they stole from her is ! too! high !#the price she never wanted to have to pay which she said at the start of it was too high of a cost was paid anyway and sheā€™s fundamentally#fucking miserable because of it#like visenya is dead luke is dead jace is dead and viserys is missing and likely dead and all she has left is joff and aegon#and like the notion of the opposition to her succession was something she expected at that point. But what hurts the MOST is the way they#went about it. What hurts the most is what happened as a result of the shock she experienced from it#like she miscarried from it and she lost visenya - and the subsequent confrontations afterward led to the losses of her other children and#itā€™s like ??? they couldā€™ve called a great council - they shouldā€™ve called a great council but no one did#what hurts is the fact the excuse is the vows sworn to her were ā€˜ staleā€™ and thus the people who turned their backs on them didnā€™t need to#uphold them so they could go about oathbreaking with their honor in tact when itā€™s like ? ( to her ) it feels as if she wasnā€™t even worth#the grace of them being honest with themselves on what they were doing#like itā€™s ?
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