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vervaincircle · 3 months ago
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something that sticks out to me about carolena and is one of the reasons why i don't ever like the ship much is because it feels like caroline is a bit resentful towards elena and acts as a mouthpiece for the audience that doesn't like elena. like that part where she's like "liam is performing surgery on sarah and you found a way to make this about you?"
i'm biased i guess because elena is my favorite character in tvd, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but i never found her to be selfish like the audience started saying over the years. the only time it felt that way to me was the scene where she and damon were arguing about their relationship while they were in the prison world with a limited amount of time to get bonnie out. they should've been driving to meet bonnie halfway, but instead elena was trying to more or less flirt with damon. but there's a lot of things about delena that i don't like, because the ship usually results in choices/scenes like that where the show is almost entirely about delena to the point it sacrifices characterization of other characters. to me i think that was ooc of elena and a result of poor writing that started going downhill when delena became canon
but earlier in the show, she was always trying to die for her loved ones, prevent them from having to make hard decisions... she stabbed herself and slit her throat while she was still a human and felt human pain just to outsmart original vampires for the purpose of keeping her loved ones safe
so i just never thought she was selfish besides that one scene in the prison world that frustrated me. but it felt like caroline thought that about elena, just like the audience, and it was always unfair to me because caroline is maybe the last person who should be judging someone for centering themselves to begin with… 😭 she had a real issue (like it was one of her canonical character flaws) with being frivolous and self centered. she grew and by the end of the show she was a generous person and a very kind mother. but i just wasn't a big fan of her interactions with elena
the part in season 6 where elena is trying so hard to party with caroline and cheer her up but caroline just tells her everyone is gone (i.e, stefan is gone because he was out of town and ignoring caroline’s calls because damon died) and elena goes “but i’m still here, care 🙁” but then caroline says she knows and walks off anyway always made me sad
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jamesunderwater · 9 months ago
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jamesssss idk if you’ve ever watched the vampire diaries but i was rewatching with my roommate and i can’t stop thinking of a marauders au 😭
can you imagine?
damon = reg
stefan = sirius
elena = james
the angst between the Black brothers?? 145 years of history between them? both of them being in love with james? the fucking love triangle with prongsfoot and jegulus?? i’m salivating at the mere thought of it
(our boy remus would be bonnie. and peter would be caroline maybe? remus as a witch? it just makes sense. and peter doesn’t give me caroline vibes but i do think that like her he would be better off as a vampire like he’d become more confident and likeable than when he was a human)
pls tell me you see this
Hahaha Celia, I read this write before bed last night and it made me laugh so much. I have definitely watched TVD except for the last season cause that was just hot garbage and you really got me thinking about how I would configure this set up...
My main qualm is that I hate Stefan so I can't stomach the idea of Sirius being him xD but I DO love the whole 145 year rivalry between the two brothers... My thought was to make Regulus Elena and then just have a whole Blackcest moment (which I've never been into but for this exercise maybe it'd work...?) but I think the problem I've come up with is at the end of the day I think S, J, and even Reg deserve better than to be either of the Salvatore brothers xD BUT given the poor choices, I do think what you've laid out fits best, lol.
I was going to say something but it'd be a spoiler for later seasons and i don't want to assume that "rewatch" means you've definitively watched all the seasons...
But I'll just say that I really like the idea of Peter being Caroline, because I agree, making that bitch a vampire would definitely solve some significant problems. Remus as Bonnie is really cool too, because despite being a kind person, she has this whole dark side to her because of her powers, which definitely fits with Remus's duality.
WAIT WAIT WAIT WHAT ABOUT. what if we go back to my original Blackcest idea but instead of Regulus being Elena, he's KATHERINE. And I think it's a given that we'd swap J and S so S is Damon (and again, pretending the two Salvatores don't kinda each just suck in their own right)??? Thoughts??? I feel like the dynamic between the three of them back when Damon and Stefan were human is maybe more what I'd imagine of that trio, but I'm curious about what you think.
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we-pay-for-everything · 3 years ago
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It’s episode 10 and Elena is already declaring her love for Stefan. Their back and forth in the first episodes is quite exhausting. Reminds me of early season 2 Bangel, but worse. 
Also, it’s time for Bloodlines! The first Delena episode! Their chemistry is pretty good. The problem with Stefan and Elena is not that they are unappealing or boring - they have a real connection (shared trauma of losing their parents) and know each other (-ish, truth be told, Elena knows very little about Stefan) - their problem is that the writers added the forbidden love angle way too early into the story, and that stunted the natural development of their relationship - and consequently made Delena more appealing and “realistic” by comparison. 
Delena have chemistry, no cliché forbidden romance shit (at first), and bring out the best and worst in each other. Elena’s more violent, aggressive, protective (of her friends) around Damon, and that’s an interesting contrast to her usual compassionate, understanding self. However, because Elena is so compassionate, and because Elena cares for Stefan and Damon is Stefan’s brother, she also sees the best in Damon and tolerates him to the point where she is even forced to acknowledge his positive attributes. Elena’s beautiful soul really comes through when she deals with Damon. As for Damon, the fact that Elena looks like Katherine means he can’t treat her like a normal human, and that brings out a different side to him - one that is more caring, likeable, patient, relatable. 
I really like the scene where Damon tells Elena to stop trying to be someone she’s not (a cheerleader), and to move on and accept who she is now. That’s advice she takes to heart. In a way, Stefan is too much like Elena. Both are trying to hold on to who they used to be (in Stefan’s case, it’s being human, which includes Katherine, because that’s why he initially approaches Elena), while all Damon wants is to be someone else (while being stuck in the past with Katherine too, ironically). But Elena wants to move on too. Elena is strong and pragmatic, so she always tries to face reality and make the best of it. For example, in season 4, when she becomes a vampire, eventually she wants to move on and accept her fate as a vampire, while Stefan desperately tried to “fix” her, at the cost of her own brother. 
Also, in the same scene, Elena shares her condolences for Damon’s loss, despite knowing Katherine had dated both brothers and probably wasn’t all that, just because Damon still lost someone he loved and she knew that feeling well. I think that was a beautiful thing she did.
Honestly, it’s easy to see why a lot of people were drawn to Delena even though Damon is a jackass. Their relationship, even in the early stages, had a depth Stelena didn’t have, because the writers got ahead of themselves with Stelena and went from the getting to know you stage straight into the “I’ll always love you, but we can’t be together, I’m bad for you, what do we do, I still want you” stage. 
Also, Ian does a better job playing Damon than Paul does playing Stefan, but Stefan might be a more challenging character to play. 
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sulietsexual · 6 years ago
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Since you did an Angel/Stefan post, can you also compare and contrast Spike and Damon, please? :)
Anonymous said: You’ve compared Angel to Stefan. Now let’s hear about what makes Damon a better character than Spike?
Like with Angel and Stefan, Damon and Spike share a lot of surface similarities; both are charismatic and rebellious, they don’t adhere to rules and restrictions, they love deeply (sometimes obsessively) and are capable of good driven by this love. They are both more carefree types and don’t tend to think about consequences; they are driven by impulse and blood and desire.
But, again, if we look deeper, the difference start to emerge. Spike is more passionate than Damon - he is an anarchist, he likes to create and thrive off chaos. He enjoys and loves life. Damon is more apathetic. He indulges in the joys of being a vampire but he admits that he’s lonely, that he misses his humanity, that he misses being human. Damon usually doesn’t incite violence and chaos just for the sake of it; he’s violent when he loses his temper or when the occasion calls for it (and, yes, sometimes because he can be) but he doesn’t revel in it the way Spike does.
Damon is also more self-aware than Spike. He knows that he’s the bad guy and he’s willing to play that part because it serves a greater purpose. Damon expects less than Spike, he doesn’t have the same entitlement that Spike does. When Damon commits acts of good because he loves Elena, he doesn’t expect Elena’s love in return. Just doing the good thing for her is enough. Spike, on the other hand, always expects Buffy to love or repay him when he does something good in the name of his love for her (the one exception being Intervention).
But I think the biggest difference between Damon and Spike is how the narratives of the series frames them and treats them. TVD never expects the audience to see Damon as the good guy, even when he commits acts of good. He is punished by the narrative for his evil, constantly distrusted by the characters around him, often gets his ass handed to him and it always feels like karma is waiting to bite him on the butt. He’s not seen sympathetically and his crimes are exposed and laid bare. 
Meanwhile, the BtVS narrative constantly asks us to feel sorry for Poor Widdle Spike. We’re supposed to believe that Buffy is the bad one in the relationship in Season 6, we’re supposed to applaud Spike for basic human decency, we’re supposed to believe that him getting his soul was some big act of love and somehow redeems him for his crimes. He tries to rape the woman he supposedly loves and the show asks us to feel sorry for him in the aftermath,
Spike’s story also very much hinges on Buffy and her story and agency and autonomy is stripped away in order for Spike to evolve as a character. She spends all of Season 7 propping Spike up and her characterisation is sacrificed in order to make Spike look more sympathetic and likeable. But TVD doesn’t do this - Elena’s story and her agency remains hers. While, yes, her story is very much linked to Damon and much of her characterisation comes from this relationship, she’s never sacrificed in order to make Damon grow. She’s never expected to forgive him on anyone’s terms but her own, whereas Spike getting his soul forces Buffy into a position where she has to forgive him or the narrative will condemn her.
At the end of the day, I can definitely understand why fans see similarities between Damon and Spike, for me they always came across as very different characters, framed very differently by the narratives, and this is why I can love Damon but (for the most part) can’t stand Spike and why I believe that Damon is the better character.
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sixmorningsafter · 8 years ago
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Chapter 14: Review
I’m taking another break from my study session to write you a review since I haven’t for a while and this chapter is so great, I want to cry. Here we go!
A/N: Ahhhh, gah, thanks so much for writing this all up, love! So detailed and thoughtful and just aaskfan;olgv. So glad you liked it! Hope your test went well!
1) First part
This Caroline’s contract is so her and Stefan making edits is so him, I loved that you opened the chapter with that hah! Also it’s hilarious how he also makes those edits to annoy Caroline, I love how he teases her sometimes.
The only thing I’m addicted to is you, Steffy bear: I’m so tired of Defan in the show. Bless you for making their bromance so likeable in this fanfic :)
So when you said Stefan was going to be jealous I instantly thought about him getting jealous of Damon with the contract thing being involved. AND I LOVE IT. I mean, I totally love how you write Stefan’s personal thoughts and mind battle between his jealousy emerging and at the same time him trying to repress those emotions because they’re just casual and he doesn’t have the right to. Yet, it shows that Stefan feels something more deeply for her and that the thing of “I just want casual sex” is going to bite him in the ass and I’m so here for it. It’s so funny though, because he thinks Caroline has this contract for him because he thinks she isn’t into him in the same way that “she was into Damon”, when she actually writes this contract as a way to put a wall between them so she doesn’t fall for him. How can he be so oblivious lolol
And I could see what you meant with “judgmental”, “critical” Stefan. The way he went at Damon just because he was feeling jealous. You know, even if it was super wrong, I guess it’s a very human thing to do, especially from Stefan. I get that it brings memories of cheater Elena back and he gets defensive straightforward. Having said so, though, I’d love to see a honest talk between Damon and Stefan, with him explaining to Damon why he behaved so irrationally and immature. I love their brotp moments. So, I was wondering, will Stefan tell him what was going in his mind? 
A/N: WHEW, so much good stuff here - first of all, loooove all your notes and thoughts. All super, super spot-on. Defan is definitely a funny, drama-free bromance in this fic, so naturally I was like ‘DRAMA TIIIIMEEE’. No dynamic can go unscathed, muahahaha. No, but in all seriousness, I’m thrilled with your interpretation of how their tiff went down - I was absolutely going for a very human but still very flawed moment from Stefan because I felt like he was overdue for it, and Damon felt like the unexpectedly right target. There will definitely be a talk between them in the future about it - Damon might be used to letting things slide off him like butter, but Stefan’s not okay with what he did, so he’ll seek him out. Defan bonding ahead! Likely not in 15, though - already a lot going on there, lmao.
Re: the contract, aren’t they both being such idiots? Caroline pretends she’s writing it for Stefan when she’s absolutely writing it for herself, and Stefan’s convinced that her giving free reign to Damon meant she was more into it than her thing with him when it’s the exact opposite. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Luckily, no matter how many stubborn conclusions they come to about each other, their natural magnetism keeps winning out and giving them moments like the one in her room, so. Safe to say we’ll have more of those :)
2) Second part
1. Honestly, this whole moment has made me feel as through I was reading a suspense/mystery/detective story for a moment hsdbaysugd. I’m writing this review as I’m reading so I don’t know if this whole thing about the different IDs will be explained later but I’m so intrigued about these 2 identities and what’s going on! 
2. I’M DEAD ABOUT KAI SENDING BIRDS LIKE WTF. I’m crying, like, what is even this guy?! When I watched the video you made and I saw the birds, I thought it’d be just like a crazy thing caused by the wind or something, but the fact that Kai has all these birds, and sends them to deliver notes? THIS IS TOO MUCH I’M ON THE FLOOR. 
3. Isn’t it hilarious how Damon has gotten under Bonnie’s skin and she can’t shake him off? The sexual tension is too much hehehe.  When I read first Kai’s appearance, I got a vibe that he had a thing for Bonnie. Maybe I’m wrong, though. But it’d be great to see Damon driving Kai crazy during the dinner while flirting with Bonnie in front of him and Kai suddenly releases a lion or tigger or something as his revenge. 
4. Did Damon seriously use Caroline’s shampoo for the wounds? I can’t.
A/N: Woooo, mystery fic feels! That plot’ll come around again during the dinner date, but as you probably know by now, Bonnie does bring it up, lololol. Maybe not in the most productive way but it’s out there. 
Kai’s a delightful lunatic and I can’t wait to write him in an extended role in 15. So glad you’re enjoying him and his bird zoo! Much more madness to come - as fun as the Bonnie x Kai will be, I really think the Damon and Kai dynamic is going to push it over the edge. Speaking of, LOOOOOL at releasing a tiger on Damon. He’s definitely going to be a pretty shameless fake boyfriend and we’ll have to see how Kai takes it all. TBH, I’m pretty sure he finds Damon just as hot as Bonnie so it’ll be an interesting interaction for sure. 
And yes, he washed out cuts with fancy French lavender and there’s a 1000% chance Caroline’s going to kill him if she finds out he wasted her expensive ass shampoo for that.
3) Third part
OH MY GOOOOOOD
1. I love Caroline/Liz’s relationship SO MUCH. You have a gift when it comes to writing family dynamics, just saying. I love the friends vibe I got from them even if they’re mother and daughter. (I can totally imagine Liz meeting Stefan and playing Cupid between the two of them asdbayusdgf). Jump Mr. Brenner’s bones: jnfydsuhf Caroline. Can we expect to see Liz again? 
A/N: Will definitely see Liz again! Either in another phone call or during the Christmas chapter(s). So glad you liked their relationship!
2. Caroline trying to control herself and not snap at Stefan after seeing all the edits was hilarious.
A/N: LMAO the perfectionism is strong in that one.
3. Plus, she couldn’t help but feel like there was a general… off-ness about him right now that she couldn’t put her finger on. A brusqueness, almost, or a sense of calculated distance that reminded her of how they used to be: so, when I read this, I got a little confused as to what could be causing this behavior from Stefan. Was he acting a little distant because of a) his previous jealous-situation earlier? I mean, was it because he was still feeling a little off because Caroline let Damon do more stuff when they were having sex?; b) he thinks Caroline and Damon might be still hooking up?; c) he’s determined to keep it as a casual thing so he’s trying to put some distance between them in that sense or between his own feelings?; d) all of the above? (This sounds like an exam, I’m sorry).
A/N: I think c is probably you best bet. He went into that room business-like, focused, like it was a case he was working on, you know? He’d just finished reading through the entire contract so he had a very clear sense of what she wanted out of him (physical), and on top of that, he’d read it with a determination to prove to himself that he could totally do no-strings-attached. I think the jealousy situation played a role in that, too, but maybe less because of him being upset about Damon and Caroline and more because he was upset at himself and his own inability to handle that well. Basically, he was pulling a Caroline and putting up a front that cracked pretty quickly. 
4. Can I just say how great the positions of Stefan and Caroline felt in this moment? Like, them being sitting in front of each other, around clothes, and in her room, gave a sense of intimacy to everything and I think it was a great scenery.
A/N: Awww, gah, thanks so much, love! This is like such phenomenal feedback to hear as a writer - I tend to try to write things in a way that feels like a movie playing out in your head, or like you’re there in the room with the characters watching it all happen, so the fact that you could feel the intimacy of that scene makes me really happy. 
5. I know Caroline doesn’t like hair pulling, and I don’t expect her to like it even if it was coming from Stefan lmao. But, I don’t know why, I feel like once Stefan “runs” his hand through Caroline’s hair, she’ll like it, at least this way of hair playing? A girl can dream, right? I totally see Stefan doing it even if he tried not to. Maybe it’s because I have this headcanon that Stefan is obsessed with Caroline’s hair in the show, so I’d really love to see that in the fic since we’ve seen Stefan touching her hair while making out with her in the fic sometimes.
A/N: I feel fairly confident saying that the biggest problem she’ll have with Stefan running his hands through her hair in the future will be liking it too much. I also feel fairly confident saying it’ll happen often.
6. Okay, writer: I love this uadasdygf. 
A/N: :)
7. YOU GAVE US THE FIRST HAND-HOLDING, I FEEL BLESSED.
A/N: All the tactility! 
8. I CAN’T FUCKING BELIEVE YOU GAVE US THIS MOMENT OF CAROLINE IMAGINING A MARRIED LIFE WITH HIM. I’m hyperventilating. I know it’s too soon but you’ve hit me right in my feelings. I get the “Caroline being romantic af” vibe from it and I’m in love gurl. Like, I know it’s over the top, but Caroline starting to believe in love again, the love that she loves so much, is such a cute thing to see? P.S. I really hope they have a mini Caroline one day, because I can totally see a little girl wrapped around his shoulders like a monkey as you said. And I can see her being very Caroline-like with her sassy comments and rolling her eyes every time Stefan starts rambling about nerdy things and she and Caroline exchanging exhausting looks. You’ve ended me, thanks :)
A/N: Looooove that you got the Caroline-the-Suppressed-Romantic vibe from that because it was absolutely what I was going for - she’s super vulnerable to love. She’s hard-wired for it. She grew up with sweeping books and romantic movies and grand gestures and her and Matt started out like a fairytale, you know? So I wanted to sneak in a moment where you start to see that repressed side of her that she denies so hard, and figured daydreams about Stefan the Hot Dad was as good a way to do it as any ;) So, so happy it killed you! LMAO, and aw, a flashforward of that would be tooooo cute. 
4) Fourth part
1. I can’t believe Bonnie confessed she’s having sex fantasies about Damon. I was reading the whole dialogue and conversation and thinking she’s not going to, right? She’s not going to. And once she did I laughed so hard.
A/N: lololol Bonnie’s the biggest wreck she’s been in ages and she is so done with life.
2. I love how Bonnie and Damon can be so direct to each other sometimes. Like I love how Bonnie just said everything that was going on in her mind without biting her tongue, and it makes such a good parallel with Stefan and Caroline because they’re always so scared of just following what they’re truly feeling? I mean, I enjoyed Bonnie’s moments of craziness and running away from Damon all the morning, but reading her exploding was like yay girl, go for it. Also, I’m wondering if Fell is your violent criminal record name and thinking about googling it, but I’m also hoping your towel falls off. It’s all really healthy: I’m dying, poor Bonnie.
A/N: Love this parallel! So accurate - Stefan and Caroline are sort of tentatively navigating around each other and their unacknowledged feelings for each other, and they’ve been doing it in a kind of slow, steadily building way for chapters on end. It’s more controlled, more lingering. Meanwhile, Bonnie just kind of woke up in 13, was like WHOA BOY what is this feeling, did like acrobatics to try and get around it, and didn’t even last a day before cracking. I think there’s a sort of combative volatility to Bamon that lends itself to that, to those big, rip the lid off scenes and poke-the-other-till-they-snap beats, and even though it took longer to get them where they are than it took Stefan and Caroline, they’re almost moving more quickly now because the defenses are down. The pretenses are melting. At least on Bonnie’s end. Damon, there’s still a lot to dive into, but now that Bonnie’s not as focused on being a tight-lipped human stress ball, she’ll get back on the offensive with him and girl can fish. Damon’s up against a lot.
3. Okay, that was hot. Damon’s all in, and he’s being so happy and such a tease about it lol. I’m here for this “you’re not going to be able to resist me” while pretending to a couple. I don’t care if it’s cliché or shown in a lot of fics and shows, I’M SO HERE FOR IT because it’s going to be so fun to read. 
A/N: LMAO it’s the biggest cliche to ever cliche so OFC it’s in this fic! So happy you’re looking forward to it! I think it’s going to be a lot of fun. Sexy, surprising, and fun. 
5) Fifth part
1. How cute that Stefan and Caroline were just watching videos like 2 normal people. A cute, normal moment (let’s forget they were watching videos of people kissing/having sex/basically porn sfsydgfdf I’m dead).
A/N: LMAO right? Casually watchin’ makeout scenes with your pending booty call, nbd. It’s always fun to write them slipping into comfortable moments without really realizing it, since their origins were so tense.
2. The thing of the scarf kind of reminded me of the Harry Potter drabble with nerdy Stefan lol. Also, thank you for this kind of moment because seeing them just bonding is always nice to see. Especially because you can see they’re totally different but they get so comfortable with each other and they work together so well.
A/N: So true! Totally nerdy Stefan! And yeah, absolutely, I think the sexual attraction has been more than established for them at this point, so now’s when the bondy moments start picking up steam, you know? Like the unexpected ease with each other/shared senses of humor/things that imply something deeper than just sexual chemistry. Not in full-force, obviously, since Caroline would probably bolt, but in worrisome flares that get longer and longer every time. 
3. You know, earlier today, I…: I NEED to know what Stefan was going to say! I mean, my first thought was the he was going to tell Caroline about his jealousy earlier, with Damon, but I’m not sure. Well, whether it was or wasn’t that, I was wondering if we’ll see Stefan telling Caroline about that, by the way. I picture Stefan telling Caroline he felt jealous because he has this kind of thought that she sees him as boring or not fun enough, and she reassures him and confesses that he actually makes her laugh sometimes, BUT ONLY SOMETIMES hahaha. 
A/N: In my head, I saw it as he was going to say something along the lines of like, ‘earlier today, I thought that maybe this whole thing was a bad idea.’ Sort of lowkey admit that he was considering not signing the contract, that maybe he wasn’t right for this, and that he had this idea that the only way it could work is if he was super detached or distant, but that actually, the past hour had just been genuinely fun and he was glad he hadn’t decided that. That’s what I was thinking. Not sure he’s at the point with her where he’d open up about any kind of insecurities re: her and Damon, because so much of that is tied so heavily to the blow his self-esteem took with Elena and it’s just a loaded conversation. But maybe a little further down the line, I could see something like that happening!
4. Stefan checking Caroline out and devouring her with his eyes while she was stretching was not subtle at all and I’m happy. He’s so attracted to her, it’s crazy. Honestly, both of them are going to feel so relieved once they finally have sex after so many days of increasing sexual tension lmao.
A/N: I’ve sketched out a few potential first time scenarios for them in my head and I think the one I’ve settled one is very much in line with this, hahaha.
5. I’M HYPERVENTILATING WITH THIS STEROLINE KISS OMG. I swear I felt butterflies, you wrote it so well :’) And YAS, because of course this would happen. Caroline trying to teach him what intimate is so that he doesn’t do it, and yet here he goes, his hand sliding up her spine, his fingers in her hair, his other hand around her waist to pull her to him, and then on her face. He couldn’t resist lol, he’s so whipped already. 
6. Sliding the pad of his thumb over the arc of flecks on her left cheek and causing a wash of butterflies to flutter through her/ His thumb swiped down to the mark just above the left corner of her mouth. The feather-light friction left a flare of warmth across her cheek, and her pulse skittered at his proximity to her lips, at how easily he could brush a fingertip over them: GIRL WTF, LIKE WTF.  Stefan can try all he wants, honestly, everyone knows he’s not going to be able to be “non-intimate” with her. Like, LOOK AT THEM. 
Her index finger traced a line from his right eyebrow to the jut of his cheekbone: GIRL WHAT GAME ARE YOU PLAYING. Can I just say how beautiful this moment of exploration and knowing each other was? And I love how flirty and idiotic and playful they were afterwards, like Stefan pretending to be offended and to want to pull away but not in the slightest. MOOD:
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LIKE DO THEY REALIZE HOW HARD THEY’RE FALLING FOR EACH OTHER BECAUSE, MAN.
Also, I wanted to thank you because it’s been cute to see Caroline being nice to Stefan and not putting walls between them as she usually does. I’m proud of my baby.
A/N: LMAO just responding with a <3 to all of this. So, so happy you liked it. I knew some people were worried about how purely physical they were in 13 so I was like ‘how can I fast-track a little intimacy without going OOC’ and this was what I came up with, lololol. Just a sort of forbidden moment where all things go and intimacy is the whole point but it’s also a slippery slope because it’s messing so much with both of their heads, you know? So needless to say, I’m really glad it landed! They’re dumb, I don’t know why either of them ever thought that would help rather than hurt they’re ‘casual sex’ crusade buuuuut this is what comes out of my head. 
I’m really curious as to who is going to realize it first, like, you know, have this moment of realization, and if they’ll just follow what they feel or want to stop so it doesn’t continue. I’m fragile, I don’t want to suffer. 
Oh, and the fact that they have this constant need to mark what is intimate and non-intimate, and the whole contract thing, doesn’t that make them think that if they need all of that is maybe because they know they feel something deeper for each other even if they don’t want to say it aloud? I DON’T KNOW BUT I’M READY FOR ANYTHING THAT IS COMING FOR THESE TWO.
A/N: I think Christmas is going to be a key time for them in terms of coming to those realizations. Just like that first stretch of time apart, where the extenuating circumstances that brought them together are over and there’s no convenient excuse to see each other as much anymore, you know? That’s my predication. LMAO I honestly don’t know ‘cause chapters morph on me like crazy. 
And re: the recognizing needing rules = feelings, YOU’D THINK. Denial’s a hell of a drug, man. 
7. Does Bonnie really not notice anything or at this point she’s just pretending she doesn’t because I can’t believe it lol. By the way, I really loved this moment with the 3 of them. 
A/N: I think after three years of seeing Caroline and Stefan avoid each other and get super stilted anytime the other was around and just in general be entirely uninterested in the other’s existence, it’s going to take a lot for Bonnie to leap into ‘they’re hooking up’. Like as readers, we’re diving into the fic right when they’re starting something so we’re like Damon, we see it as super obvious. Bonnie has a whole three year history of them being allergic to each other that is kind of putting up a mental block, and on top of that, she’s sort of the main character of her own romantic debacle right now and that’s compromising a lot of her observational skills. I do think, though, that once it clicks in her head forreal, she’s going to immediately identify all the obvious af signs she missed and be outraged at herself.
8. Okay, first Stefan, now Bonnie. Like no wonder these two are besties. They even get jealous at the same time and over the same people, it’s hilarious. Damn crow, by the way -though I find the crows thing so hilarious, can they adopt one or something?-, but will the girls talk about Bonnie’s feelings for Damon? 
A/N: Eventually, for sure. They’ve both got other things they’re dealing with in 15, though. And LMAO they should, though for some reason I see those crows as like unfailingly loyal to Kai. 
6) Sixth part
Love of my liiiiife: I can’t with this guy. All of this comical moment was too much. Like, throwing her over his shoulder and just leaving the apartment; Bonnie with no shoes and calling him out; and they’re about to have dinner with Kai -and the fact that Damon uses like 100 nicknames for him lmfao-. This is going to be fun.
A/N: I think that’s a pretty good indication of the kind of energy the opening of that date’s going to have, so I’m super glad you’re looking forward to it!
7) Seventh part
For the sake of Stefan and Caroline, they really just need to have sex once and for all or they will die -and me too-. 
PLEASE TELL ME IT’S FINALLY HAPPENING IN CHAPTER 15 SO I CAN GET READY FOR MY DEATH. Also, any idea of when you will post it? Just a tentative idea?
A/N: Would not be unwise to start making funeral arrangements. And lmao, unfortunately I have kind of a crazy few weeks coming up, so probably in like three weeks at the earliest? I’ll try to make that, I know I left some pretty nasty cliffhangers in this chapter. 
And lastly, I saw someone is making an appearance, an “unexpected new guest”. Is he/she someone we know? A neighbor? Someone we don’t but that either Stefan or Caroline do? 
Yessss, the new guest mystery! You know them. They’ve been mentioned. Muahaha.
I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER. Let me tell you this one was one of my favorites and that I feel blessed and I’m gonna reread it like 100 times. Sorry for the super long review!
A/N: GIRL, never, I loved the super long review. Made my day! <3 I know this fic is largely fluff, but let me tell ya, fun as they are, these chapters end up being like 50-60+ pages on Word, so they definitely take quite a bit out of me and quite a bit of time for me to crank out. When I first post them, I never really have any idea what to think and just sort of wait to hear back on if this thing I just spent way too much time on (time that I do NOT have lololol) is any good, and you’d be surprised how long it usually takes to get any kind of feedback (I really think people think this fic is more popular than it is?), so neeeeeever apologize for leaving a long review. It’s like the best possible thing to get. Thanks so, so much for writing it, and I’ll make sure to start posting teasers for 15 soon!
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