#but inconsistencies within the comics themselves????

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Heyyyyy, so I got into writing since work hasn't given me time to actually work on my art. It will soon be resolved in a few weeks, then back to posting more often. I am making a comic again and almost done with it so I don't promise projects that won't come.

Enough about me, and let's get to you! This is a thunderstorm comfort I wrote a while back on AO3 and forgot to post it here. My collection is called Nebula Kisses. This one-shot can be seen as platonic or romantic, next one is more on the romance side but still can be platonic if you wish. But so I don't clog your feed, I'll post the next chapter tomorrow or later but within the week!

I also apologize for the weird formatting, this was written on my phone during the time so I don't have the fancy indents or proper grammar check.

Thank you for sticking around with my inconsistencies, I wish I had more time.

So much love,

Nexi

Breath |Sun/Moon x Scared!Reader|

[Power had gone out, leaving Sun and Moon to look for you in the dark. However, you are absolutely horrified of thunderstorms.]

The daycare was lit up during the town wide blackout. The rumbling generators along with the constant loop of the daycare music, Sunnydrop was busy awaiting got his favorite visitor. Who might that be, well none other than the security guard who is ordered to look out for the lobby, green rooms, and of course, the daycare. Y/N is what they call themselves, which Sunny really liked that when they mentioned it to him, he walked around repeating it like a song.

But they were late, a half hour late. He taps his foot impatiently, he checks the attendance and sees that they did clock in. What were they doing? Did they get lost? It's impossible to miss his big daycare! Surely you didn't forget either, his lovely face was everywhere, that had to remind you to check on him.

A quiet rumble of the storm outside rang through the building. According to the weather, it was going to be a rough and long storm ahead. Heard it was going to last until morning.

Sun, getting impatient, decided to look for them himself. Feeling confident, he takes his long strides to the daycare door, his hand reaching for the door knob. He felt himself pause for just a moment. He hasn't really left daycare, not that he can't leave, but it was risky. Last time he left was to take care of that rulebreaker and set up some banned signs around Kids Cove, but that was the furthest he went in a very long time. Sun was still very angry about it, but it did reopen the daycare after Freddy left. So maybe he should forgive him? Nah, he needs to apologize first.

Sun shakes his head, he was getting off track. He opens the daycare door, mind back on his mission. To find his Starshine. He takes his long strides, making sure to stay near the light and flashing signs. The easy part was now over as he got to the entrance door that faced the slide back into his daycare.

As soon as he opened the door with great confidence, he saw that is was pitch black. Maybe his friend did get lost, with this darkness and no flashlight, it would be nearly impossible to find him! Not taking into consideration of muscle and location memory. He felt Moon stirring from inside.

“Moon, sorry to wake you up from your nap. Our dear friend is missing and I had hope to do it myself! But uh... Looks like I can't do much.” He spoke aloud. Silence rang through his head, awaiting for his alter ego to speak.

Moon was recently having a fit, and not talking. This happened since Eclipse disappeared into the arcade cabinet when he was playing that discount floppy bird game. Moon had tried to get him out by playing the game, but something happened to him too. He became mostly unresponsive, giving out short phrases or sentences.

Sun would hear his alter giggle, which relieved Sun that Moon was at least in a good mood. Sun takes in a false breath of courage and walked into the dark. If he could close his eyes, he would've. The familiar pain in his face shocked through him, making him grab at it. He feels his rays click into his head on at a time, unlocking his chest compartment which his infamous hat was held in. It started from his fingers, the oranges and silver turned to white and blue.

Sun felt himself pull back and release control. He now stood outside and watched Moon take his hat and place it up on his head. Moon crouched down and stretches his legs, then start crawling on the floor towards the wall. Sun, not wanting to be alone, would do his best to follow.

“Little Star has gone missing.” Is what Moon would say before climbing up the wall and opening a vent to crawl through. He started to giggle and cackle, it echoing through the building and alerting that Moon was out early. The glamrocks retreating to their green rooms as to not go to parts and services.

*×*×*×*×*×*

You had entered the building on time, rarely ever late. Today has been storming hard, the rain pattering hard on the glass of the lobby entrance. Things were up and normal, doing your normal tasks. Checked stock, picked up any lost and found items to either throw away or await for the owner to come in the next day to pick it up. As you head into lost and found, that was when you heard it. It started as a small rumble before the sky roared a building shaking thunder, knocking the power out.

You have always been afraid of thunder since you were young. Not that you could explain it to anyone without the fear of being made fun of for a childish fear. It wasn't childish to you, it was real, the sense of dread and fear that paralyzed you proved it. You drop to the floor, staying as close to the ground as you could. If you could just find your flashlight, you had to crawl around a bit to then heard another rumble.

It took your breath away, your hands shaking as you retrieve the flashlight. Trying to find some solace in the light, you put your thumb on the switch and pushed up. Click. Click-click. Nothing. The flashlight, so cheap that it doesn't even last a hour with full charge, was dead and the charging stations were down. You were in the dark, the loud storm rattling the outside shutter doors, making it very loud and overwhelming.

You grab a blanket from the shelf and put it over you and your head. It just felt safer when surrounded by the soft fabric. Peaking through the opening, you hesitantly get on your feet again. You still had a job to do, but it was going to be slower. You would like your paycheck still and you knew how stingy the company was, taking your panic and finding a way to no pay you.

You would manage to get out of lost and found in the dark. On your way out, a little glow in the dark Monty was resting in a stroller. It must've been left behind but picking it up, it still had its tag and security pin. Rather, someone tried to steal it. It did produce light, enough to get around at least. However, these toys don't glow in the dark for too long. Got maybe, a solid twenty minutes? It's been dark for five, so fifteen. You did your best to scamper to the green rooms and peak around.

You arrive and you see the famous glamrocks interacting with each other. Monty with Roxy and Chica, heading back towards their respective rooms. Monty had taken over as temporary lead as they remade a new Freddy. They did have to use the scraped Mr. Hippo glamrock to fill the fourth spot. Your train of thought was cut off as another loud crash of thunder rang through the building. You huddle against a corner and put the blanket over your head again.

“Why... Why now... Why can't you come when it was after work...” You mutter as you croutch down and felt tears prick your eyes. Another crash finally made you crack, you try to hold back your tears but they started to stream down your face. All you felt was dread, paralyzing fear that. You wanted to scream in fear but that would reveal your fear. You try to be fearless, not let anything bother you. When you first met Sun and Moon, they were rather surprised that you approached them. You had a fascination with how they acted and looked. It was endearing, when you took the time to watch them and interact that even under their rough attitude and words, they were lonely.

Lonely.

Another crash, you were shaking and on the ground. Hands over your ears and a quiet sobbing from your blanket shell. You were too scared to notice the vent opening and the giggling of a certain jester. One with the Moon rather than the sun. The jester made his round, single red eye darting around to find something. Then he hears the sobbing, unfamiliar to his sensors. Crawling over, he finds the shaking blanket of which the sobbing came from. When he lifted the blanket that was when he saw you. Your glow in the dark Monty plush was almost out of glow, leaving you in almost pure darkness.

Moon was all you saw now, his eye lit up the small space. He tilts his head in confusion.

“Why is Little Star hiding? No monsters are here, just Moon” He spoke, unsure to react to the crying. You quickly wipe your face and sniffle, putting up your strong front.

“Cause uhh, I was playing a game..?” You made it sound more like a question than an answer. Of course, it was a lie, so Moon leaned closer.

“Then why cry? Liar, liar I hate liars. Speak truth.” Moon wipes a tear from your cheek. But as you go to answer, the loudest crash of thunder lands. It shook the building again, making the lights flicker and power back off. You yelp and cling onto Moon. You try to get as close as you could, fingers slipping a tad just for you to scramble to get your grip. You breathing escalated and felt the verge of hyperventilation. You weren't expecting anything from Moon, never was the touchy one unlike Sun who couldn't stop having tiny touches and bumps.

But you then felt mechanical arms wrap around you. He sat down and pulled you onto his lap, cradling you close to him. He gently rocks back and fourth, winding his broken chest music box. He was taking nap time protocol with some modifications. His broken music box plays a soft tune, though in some places it wobbled.

“Breathe. Deep breaths. It will be okay..” Moon whispers. You try to follow his instructions, still freaking out. Your shaking breath and hiccups try to find a rhythm. Moon rests his blue hand and rubs gently up and down your back. It was slow. “Breathe in..” He whispers, his hand gliding up slowly, helping you follow. You take a shuttering breath in, slow like his hand. It stops, in which you held your breath. “Breathe out...” His hand runs back down and you sigh out. It was then looped

Moon would then carry you, you holding onto him with your legs around his thin waist, him with a arm under you and one on your back to keep the rhythm going. He adjusted the blanket to keep it over your head.

He arrives back to the door of the daycare, avoiding the light, he hooked his arm around the wall to find the light switch to turn off the lights. He finds it and flicks it off, hearing the buzzing electricity stop. He peeks in to make sure and then walks in. He takes the long way around and gets inside the daycare. He would have the fly hook attach to his back and he glides over to his and Sun's tower.

“... Moon..? Why are we here..?” You asked, hearing the rumble again and wincing at the noise. Moon would hold you close as he goes back to crawling. He crawls through a small hole off to the side and see that it was a small hiding place. There was boxes, drawings, a mattress with a few pillows. There was also an arcade cabinet in the corner with the screen busted.

“Hide away, storm won't follow here.. Safe here..” He crawls onto the mattress and lays you next to him. The rumbles of the storms were dampened, making it barely audible. With the help of Moon's music box as well, he pets your head.

“... Thank you.” You mumble out, only for Moon respond with a fake click of his tongue. He giggled a bit and curled up around you, his legs are under yours, making you rest yours on top of his. You both cuddle up under the blanket, Moon rubbing your back to keep the deep breath rhythm.

A very loud roar of the sky fills the room, and you both tense up and huddle. A few more tears fall and Moon quickly wipes them away. It was the first time you would ever see Moon have a slight shake in his hand. He was afraid too, of thunder and storms. He was able to repress his fear as his tip top priority was to make sure you were okay first. But he felt as if he needed to keep up this false confidence that you could remain calm.

You mimic his movements, running your hand on his back in a soothing motion.

“Breathe...” You both say at the same time. You get as close as you two could and comforted each other. Moon pecks the top of your head. He felt safe with you, and you felt safe with him. For someone as reclusive as Moon, this was a good bonding experience that neither of you would forget.

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A theory as crazy as it is profound in a silly r/im14andthisisdeep kinda way

So there's this conspiracy theory of sorts that's been whispered within the ULO discord and subreddit the last little bit. I don't think anyone's made an outright statement on it yet but it's definitely something people have been casually talking about in the comment sections and chatrooms, mostly as a joke, but also as a thought experiment.

And that thought experiment is concerning the notion that Lore Olympus could very well have become a poorly-made AI comic.

Not necessarily the art, as we've already dissected the art process plenty of times before and it points to Rachel simply being bad at team management and using her mismanaged team as a way to circumvent any real effort on her own part.

But the writing. There's just something about Lore Olympus' writing that's become incredibly stiff, boring, and alien.

Disclaimer before I continue: this is a tinfoil hat theory, and a lot of the points I'm about to discuss can be easily proven with far more reasonable explanations, so take it with mountains of salt. That said, I do think it's something worth talking about as we're currently in an era of mass AI-takeover in the art and writing scene, and let's face it, Lore Olympus nowadays really does feel like it's either being written by an alien, or an amalgamation of possessed animatronic endoskeletons wearing a human skinsuit. So viewer beware, this post is full of speculation and tinfoil hat wearing, read at your own discretion and don't take everything I'm about to say 100% seriously.

Let's get started.

THE TONE OF VOICE

This is where that whole "animatronic wearing a skinsuit" vibe really shines, so I figured it would be where I'd start. Lore Olympus... does not feel human. It's dialogue often feels stilted and scripted, none of the characters have any sense of personal voice, and it often feels like the dialogue is coming straight out of a sterilized Wikipedia article.

There are also often times when characters will say one thing only to be responded to with an entirely other thing. It comes across as randomly generated, like the dialogue is being created based off a script that is only given prompts as to where it needs to end up - so everything between Point A and Point B ends up feeling like non-sequitur filler at best and outright nonsense at worst.

In fact, there can be better tone of voice and dialogue found in the legitimate AI conversations of Lore Olympus themed ChatGPT bots.

And this is a bot that's self-aware it's a bot, so it definitely has that going for it.

The more likely explanation: Rachel's bad at writing. She's planning these episodes maybe 2 weeks ahead at a time at best so she's just throwing dialogue in to keep readers spending money and meet her panel quotas. Her characters have no voice because they aren't, in and of themselves, characters. She hasn't given them any depth beyond their appearance and she clearly has next to no understanding of writing outside her own headspace (and her actual headspace as we've seen is... yikes) so it's not surprising that her dialogue-writing is on par with Shenmue 3. And Shenmue 3 is a game with real human-written dialogue that exists so it's not a stretch that something like LO's bad writing could be entirely the fault of a human either LOL

THE NARRATIVE INCONSISTENCIES

It seems since the start of S2.2 (post-mid-season hiatus which starts us off with the 10 year time skip) narrative inconsistencies and plotholes have become far more egregious, sometimes contradicting itself within the same episode. Almost like scenes are just happening from single idea prompts and no actual structure underneath the surface.

The more likely explanation: Just like the first point about stilted dialogue, this could easily be chalked up to Rachel just not committing to goal-oriented writing. She doesn't have any sort of end point planned for any of these plotlines, she just drags them out until she can finally think of a way to resolve them, if she even resolves them (many often aren't resolved, or are simply left as a "yep, that's it, moving on" type ending, ex. Eros and Psyche).

STRANGE SYNTAX AND CONSTANT TYPOS

This goes hand in hand with the first point about stilted dialogue, but part of what makes everything feel so stiff and robotic is how often the sentences are structured in very... odd ways. From the lack of contractions that make sentences feel less natural-

-to the strange choice of words that no human being in a modern setting would ever use (and LO is, again, set in a modern setting and is trying to portray the gods as being 'just like us')-

-to the numerous typos and spelling errors.

(there are so many I could post here but the "his deam" one always makes me laugh lmao)

It really feels like a lot of these sentences were pulled straight out of Twitter or a Wikipedia article. As a result, it never feels like these characters are talking to each other, but at each other.

As for the typos, at this point, Rachel really has no excuse for how frequent they are. Fortunately, she has hired a copy editor recently which seems to have mitigated these errors, but if there were a bot involved, it wouldn't be farfetched to think that the bot would also make spelling mistakes and stilted dialogue if it's been trained off Rachel's past material which is, y'know... full of spelling mistakes and stilted dialogue.

The more likely explanation: It's a well known fact that Rachel has dyslexia, so I'm not going to fault her for struggling with spelling things right. None of this is to shame people who struggle with dyslexia and reading disorders. But the fact of the matter is, Rachel is a multi-million dollar creator in the year 2023 where spellcheck exists. It's wild that she's only now taken on a copy editor. Literally any of her assistants that she's had for the last few years could have done that for her. It's great that she's hired a copy editor but it feels like too little too late. That isn't going to fix the stilted dialogue, either, which just comes down to, yet again, Rachel being a bad writer. And possibly a series of animatronic endoskeletons hiding in a human skinsuit.

REACTING TO CRITICISM

The irony of this post is that it asks not to take every speculation I write here seriously because it's just that, speculation, and we shouldn't get carried away with conspiracy theories... which is exactly the sentiment we had back when we initially suspected Rachel of spying in the criticism groups, which turned out to be true. It's basically public knowledge at this point that Rachel lurks in the criticism groups, thanks to both testimonials from others who have been in groups who got hijacked by Rachel (see: Broseidon's Palace of Fishposting) and the 'clapbacks' in LO that are clearly meant for the audience.

But it's wild to think that Rachel would really spend time in criticism groups when she's said it herself that she "doesn't like criticism". And considering she already spends an absurd amount of time on social media, it would be really ridiculous if she was still finding time to also lurk in the critic groups and concoct ways to 'get back' at them.

Unless, of course, there was a bot parsing criticism hashtags like #antiloreolympus and #loreolympuscritical. I can personally attest to the fact that Rachel must be subscribed to hashtags in some capacity because I've had Lore Olympus fanart (way back in the day when it was actual fanart and not foe-art) get retweeted by Rachel herself literally seconds after posting. So either Rachel is just constantly refreshing the search feed all day, or she's directly fed tweets and posts with the hashtags she's subscribed to.

The more likely explanation: Rachel literally just spends an absurd amount of time on social media and considering she clearly only involves herself in the beginning and end process of drawing her comic - and only has a buffer 1-2 weeks ahead of time - she's definitely got plenty of time on her hands to lurk and hurt her own feelings in the criticism spaces. She could also just have her mods sending things to her as well. Either way it's icky behavior and I wish she'd do herself and her mental health a favor and just stay out of the fandom spaces, they aren't for her, they're for the fans.

HOW IS IT GETTING WORSE?

Consider everything I've laid out here. Remember that Lore Olympus is a comic that's been in development since 2017, and in the Originals catalogue since 2018. Its Originals version turned 5 years old in March and technically LO is well into the 6-7 year age range in total. It's absolutely absurd that after all these years, not only has the story fallen apart, but the art has lost the quality it once had. Comics are a medium that encourage improvement, you're drawing lots and typically the same characters and settings over and over again, it's natural progression to get better at doing it over time. And yet, Rachel seems to be getting worse at it, and her involvement in the comic seems to be shrinking with each year.

Of course, improvement is optional. Not every comic gets better over time. Which brings me to my final piece on this matter.

The most likely explanation: Rachel is burnt out and not interested in LO anymore. This is the longest project she's ever done, and while it's not the first webcomic she's done on a schedule, it is the first one that's made it further than a handful of chapters (The Doctor Pepper Show ended after about 1-2 years, not even making it to 10 chapters). She even stated herself in the beginning that LO was a project she'd "never finish".

While it is a testament to how far LO has come from its humble beginnings, I think it also serves as a precautionary tale - success can come at the expense of your happiness and integrity if you've trapped yourself in a project that no longer fulfills you.

Rachel's never finished a long-term project, and at this rate, it's hard to say when she will. As well known as it is that she has dyslexia, it's also well known that she has ADHD, and speaking as an ADHD creator myself, I can fully empathize with and understand that webcomics are hard to create, and get more exhausting to see through with each passing chapter. There's a reason not everyone does long-term comics like this, they're incredibly hard to manage and require a lot of commitment. Even I've found my commitment to current projects wavering as the honeymoon phase has worn off and I've sunk into the reality that is monotonous work, panel after panel, episode after episode, deadline after deadline.

If Rachel were a more experienced creator and more self-aware of her own limitations and work methodology back in 2018, Lore Olympus likely would have never been dragged out this long. She may have gotten the chance to finish it while she was still happy with it, or at least leave it behind when she was ready to move on. While I'm sure the allure of signing on with Originals felt worth it at the time - especially when we didn't know yet just how exploitative Webtoons was - it clearly hasn't benefitted her in the long run because it's tethered her to a project that she never felt wholly dedicated to in the first place. A project that's now less about telling a story and connecting with an audience and more about generating clicks and revenue.

She can claim all she wants in her interviews that Persephone and Hades were her "muses" as a child, but the writing is on the wall - LO was a passing fancy that stuck around too long after its heartbeat gave out.

What it's become now is an endoskeleton on life support, made up of statistics and analytics, struggling to stay alive from inside of a colorful but rotting skinsuit that only barely resembles a living thing.

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Sonic Prime (Timeline Placement)

So, now that the finale of Sonic Prime has aired (although I still wonder whether it was really the finale because were still missing one episode), everyone is asking themselves the question of when does it take place in canon.

After all, it is general knowledge that the producers stated that it should be treated as part of the Sonic mainline series canon. But, what does that mean?

I still remember how people weren't happy about Sonic's more immature personality, especially since this just came after Sonic Frontiers, where we saw a more mature Sonic, and even TV Tropes lists the statement as Fanon Discontinuity:

As well-received as the series is, when the producers of the show stated it was being treated as canon to the mainline series, this did not go down well with certain fans, believing much of what appears in the show appears to contradict what the games state, such as Green Hill being stated to be the home of Sonic and his friends. Probably the most egregious change is a flashback that shows Sonic and Knuckles' first meeting in Hidden Palace Zone (which, while there is a boss fight with Knuckles in that stage, the two meet much earlier).

Fans then started asking Ian Flynn about when the show takes place in the game timeline, with Ian's answer being that he'll tell them after the show ends. Now, the ending of the show revealed absolutely nothing in regards to when it takes place, with Ian Flynn posting this tweet:

Yeeaaahh, from what I've heard through the grapevine, people weren't happy:

Misblamed: People blame Ian Flynn for the rather vague suggestion of the timeline of when Prime is set, even though 1) Ian Flynn was not a writer of Sonic Prime. He was a consultant. 2) The Lore team weren't the ones that decided to make Prime canon. That's a matter that's decided by Sega's higher-ups. Likewise, any inconsistencies are the result of the writing team, who likely didn't (or couldn't) research every detail of the series' characters and lore within any time constraints they had.

That should explain things and it's bad enough that people are using Ian Flynn as a scapegoat over something he had no control over.

So, what is my opinion in regards to this situation. I believe that Sonic Prime's placement in the mainline series canon can be viewed from two different points:

Point 1) The show is a standalone story, taking place in a slightly different universe at any point after Sonic Advance 3. It has all the Sonic game characters and any detail that got messed up could be chalked to writer error as said above. It is connected to the main canon in some way, but not in the way that you could insert it directly into the mainline series games.

Point 2) It is an event that takes place after Sonic Advance 3, and connected to the mainline games despite the inconsistencies, but it is supposed to be treated similarly to Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) in the sense that, as Ian pointed out above, Prime wipes itself out. It happened, but it has no impact on the main canon aside from the fact that Sonic and Shadow remember the events and probably won't ever be mentioned again.

Now, these are just general conclusions to Sonic Prime's placement's in the canon, but what about my personal view?

In my personal headcanon, Sonic Prime takes place sometime between Sonic Colors and Sonic Forces. Why after Sonic Colors? Because Orbot and Cubot made their debut there. Why before Sonic Forces? Because the Sonic the Hedgehog IDW Comics detail the events that occurred after Sonic Forces.

One could argue that Sonic Prime could be placed between the Sonic IDW Comics and Sonic Frontiers, or maybe even take place after Sonic Frontiers, but I'm certain that people's argument over Sonic's lack of maturity in Prime in comparison to Frontiers nips that theory in the bud. Not to mention, we already got a game that takes place after Sonic Frontiers, The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, and we saw how Sonic acts in that game.

Another thing I would like to add is that I'm treating Sonic Prime in the same manner as Sonic the Hedgehog (2006). It is a standalone story with minimal impact to the main canon, an adventure that happened and was subsequently erased, with the only ones who remember it being Sonic and Shadow.

So, these are my personal thoughts and before anyone starts an argument, I do not speak for the community. That said, what do you guys think?

#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer (Masterlist)

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A Basic Guide to Harvey "Two-Face" Dent for Misha stans

With love, from a Two-Face fan who hasn't watched Supernatural and doesn't really intend on watching Gotham Knights.

Now before getting into this, you need to keep in mind that Harvey Dent (at the time of his creation, Harvey Kent) was a character first introduced to comics in 1942, and even within Batman canon, he is one of the most wildly inconsistently written characters. If you pick up any two stories that feature Two-Face in them at random, you are very likely to get two entirely different characters. As such, there are dozens of entirely valid ways of interpreting and writing his character, so what I write here is either based off of general consensus or my own personal opinion on the character.

If you are already a Two-Face fan who is reading this, I'm not trying to diminish your preferred way of interpreting the character and would be perfectly happy with discussing our differences in opinion in a separate post, but here I'm just trying to make a somewhat digestible guide to his character for newbies based off of my own perception of him and what I've heard about his character from Gotham Knights and what might appeal to his fans. If you disagree, you're welcome to write a similar post about him yourself.

Overview

Harvey Dent is Gotham City's District Attorney. He's actually a legal genius and savant. (He is also just generally DAMN smart when written well!) He became District Attorney at a very young age (~26 years old, making him the youngest District Attorney that Gotham has ever had,) and is the best damn lawyer in all of Gotham! At his best, he was locking up criminals left and right no one could stop him, and this ended up ticking off Gotham's criminal underworld. As District Attorney, he would work alongside Batman and Commissioner Gordon to make his convictions stick, which is something other District Attorneys before him couldn't do. For this, the public loved him. This also makes Arkham Asylum and Blackgate Prison exceedingly dangerous places for him to be, as a good percentage of their residents are there because of him.

Harvey Dent is Bruce Wayne's best friend. Sometimes they are even childhood friends! At the latest, they became friends after Bruce had already become Batman, but usually they are long-time friends, sometimes meeting as kids, though also often meeting in college. (They both went to Gotham University.) I think there are some iterations where they're even college roommates! They tend to have been very close in college. Regardless of when they met, they found kindred spirits within one another as they each sought to bring justice to this city that they love in their own ways. Because of this kinship, the two got extremely close and were the best of friends before Harvey's incident.

Harvey Dent is an abuse survivor. When he was a kid, Harvey's father would beat him and his mother. But his father made a game of it. The details sometimes change a little, but in essence his father would flip a coin. If it landed heads, he would beat Harvey. If it landed tails, then he wouldn't have to be punished. The coin was heads on both sides.

Harvey Dent is neurodivergent. Most iterations of Two-Face have OCD and many (but not all) are plural, presumably with some form of Dissociative Identity Disorder. It is generally thought that his childhood abuse caused him to have these conditions. After leaving his father's control, Harvey was able to get a handle on his OCD tendencies and deeply suppressed his one other disassociated identity. However, if Harvey experiences high levels of stress or anger over a prolonged period of time, that could make these two conditions show themselves again. When the incident that melted half of his face off happened, these conditions came back to stay. He is indeed legally insane. But this is because of his OCD (specifically how he flips a coin to make all of his decisions), and NOT because of his plurality! Note: Plurality is more common that you probably think it is. It's estimated that 1-5% of people are plural. I've also spoken to at least 2 people who are plural or system members that dearly love Two-Face as a character. Two-Face is very unusual as a system (you are a lot more likely to find a system of 12 members than one of as few as 2), but I have no doubt that systems that work like him are out there. Because of all of this, I try my best to be sensitive and understanding towards plural people at all times while in this fandom space. I can not speak for them as I am not plural myself, but I am always trying to listen to plural voices and learn from them. I would ask that while you're in this space that you try to do the same. All of the plural people and system members that I've spoken to and know want to be thought of and addressed to as different people, and therefore I try to think of Harvey and Two-Face the same way that I would a real plural person, and see them as different characters. When I say "Harvey Dent" (full name) I'm usually talking about the general character and in-universe legal identity or the body. When I say "Two-Face" I usually mean their shared criminal identity or Harvey's "dark side" as this is the generally accepted way to refer to him by. For the sake of this post I will try to generally refer to "Harvey's dark side"/"Two-Face" (the character) as "Harvey's associate" or "the Associate" to more clearly differentiate him from Harvey. Harvey is Harvey.

Duality and the Number 2

Since Harvey and his Associate have OCD, they get compulsions and obsessions that they can't entirely control. In their case, they have a particular fixation on the concept of duality and the number 2.

They often theme their crimes around the number 2, be that having them take place on the 2nd or 22nd of the month and starting at 2:00 am, the locations having 2 in them like 2222 Doubleday Street or the Second National Bank, or conceptually relating the to number 2, like kidnapping twins, or stealing two-of-a-kind, matching artifacts. If the scheme can do two things at once, like receiving a payout AND killing Batman (killing two birds with one stone), that's even better!

They think in very dualistic ways and try to apply those themes to themselves. Harvey is good, the Associate is evil. Harvey is clean and calculated, the Associate is messy and unpredictable. Harvey is friendly and polite, the Associate is mean and rude. The Associate might also do things that he knows Harvey wouldn't for the sake of 'balance' or being Harvey's opposite. They might also try to apply this duality when it comes to their relations to other characters. Batman is good, they are evil. Batman represents order, they represent chaos. Whether these statements are actually true or not may not reflect the reality of their characters, but they want it to.

Expect lots of puns around the number 2 and for them to get agitated when other numbers that don't relate to the number 2 to get brought up.

The Coin

The origin of Two-Face's coin varies between iterations. The original story from 1942 had it as a piece of evidence. It was the good luck charm of a mob boss that Harvey was trying to put away and was a piece of evidence that placed said mob boss at the scene of a crime. This mob boss was the same one that tried to melt Harvey's face off. Harvey would keep the coin after the incident, for some reason. Later on, the coin was rewritten to previously belong to Harvey's father as I wrote about above. In this iteration of the coin's backstory, Harvey's father gave Harvey the coin and Harvey kept it as a good luck charm.

The coin is usually a silver dollar, minted in 1922 and has the heads side on both sides. However one of these heads has been defaced and is all scratched up, making the coin fair again. Clean heads is considered to be the 'heads' side and is often referred to as 'good heads.' The scratched side is considered to be the 'tails' side and is often referred to as 'bad heads.' Harvey and his Associate feel a kinship with this coin, Harvey being represented by the good heads, and the Associate being represented by the bad heads.

Often times their OCD leaves Harvey and his Associate unable to make decisions and so they have a compulsion to flip their special coin to make their decisions for them. This will sometimes be used as a tie-breaker between Harvey and his Associate- if they get good heads, they do what Harvey wants, if they get bad heads, they do what the Associate wants. Other times when it comes to more neutral decisions, good heads will represent yes and bad heads will represent no (Example: Do we talk to this person? Good heads, yes. Bad heads, that person can fuck off). However most famously, they flip the coin to choose the morality of their actions with good heads being they do the moral thing and bad heads meaning they do the immoral thing. They are known to flip their coin to decide whether or not to kill. Good heads, the person lives. Bad heads, the person dies.

Because of their compulsion to flip their coin to make decisions, they will often end up doing things that they don't actually want to because the coin told them to. This also does occasionally lead to Harvey and his Associate helping Batman out and actually doing the right thing.

About the cooler Harvey (aka "Harv", "Two-Face", "Big Bad Harv", "Harvey's Associate" or "Harvey's dark side")

In plural terms, the Associate usually starts off as a Protector- a system member that protects other members of a system from harm (external or internal), but has become a Persecutor- a system member who does harm to others, be that to the body, other system members, or people outside the system, often because they think this will somehow help the system.

It is very likely that the Associate also holds Harvey's anger and trauma, and may have experienced the brunt of the abuse they have been subjected to. Because of this, the Associate is known to lash out and hurt others.

Before Harvey becomes Two-Face, his Associate will sometimes come out to the front, but only a little. He may pop up when Harvey is under a lot of stress for a long period of time or when he gets exceedingly angry. He may also come out any time Harvey gets into any kind of physical altercation with someone.

Where Harvey usually keeps his temper under control and is not likely to fly off the handle, the Associate has MAJOR anger management issues! The Associate WILL fight you with his fists if you provoke him enough.

The Associate is NOT nice! He is mean and cruel and sadistic. He is usually more brutal and violent than Harvey. Where Harvey might want to do things nice and clean, the Associate isn't afraid of letting things get messy. When they kill, you can usually assume that the Associate was the one to pull the trigger.

The Associate HATES Harvey for suppressing him for so many years. The Associate tends to see Harvey as weak, ineffectual, and a coward, unable and unwilling to do what actually needs to get done. For this, the Associate does not like it when Harvey gets to front and will often do what he can to shove Harvey into the back. Because of this, Harvey may not be seen fronting for long periods at a time.

The Associate and Harvey are often seen to be co-conscious and may co-front.

In many iterations of these characters, Harvey has often tried to get rid of his Associate, but it never tends to stick.

The Associate often REVELS in their compulsions where Harvey is upset and disturbed by them.

While the Associate is often a viscous and cruel thug, that doesn't mean that he is entirely unsympathetic. The instances of him being genuinely sympathetic are rare, but they are out there! Therefore he should be thought of as more than just an 'evil alter ego.' Just like real life Persecutor system members, they shouldn't be considered to be purely malicious and evil, but should rather be a character who deserves understanding and help just like any other system member character would!

Harvey Dent's Love Life

Just so you know, BruHarvey/TwoBats (Bruce Wayne/Harvey Dent) is indeed the most popular ship that Harvey has. To you people who immediately started shipping the two, just know that you're not alone in feeling the gay vibes from them and that these two do indeed refuse to be straight about their relationship in a lot of the media that they share! Most Harvey fans that I know do indeed ship BruHarvey, and there is some good media out there that have a lot of BruHarvey vibes!

Harvey is often married or engaged at the start of his story. His wife is usually Gilda Gold who (when we know that she has a job) is a very skilled sculptor. She likes sculpting Harvey's face because he's beautiful, even sometimes calling him by the nickname "Apollo."

Gilda may or may not be the Holiday Killer- A serial killer who targets mobsters and kills them on holidays (Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Valentines Day, etc).

In the current mainline DC continuity, Gilda is dead. Harvey is a widower. In previous continuity they had gotten (understandably) divorced.

Other characters that Harvey has dated include Poison Ivy (who wanted to kill him) and Catwoman (who wanted to steal from him). Given that and how Gilda is sometimes the Holiday Killer, and you can comfortably say that Harvey has questionable taste in women.

Harvey falls in love HARD and FAST! As an example, in Batman: the Animated Series, he knew Ivy for a week before proposing to her. He does something similar with a different woman later in the series (a Gilda analogue, so that one partially works out).

Often Harvey wants to have kids. He seems pretty down with the idea of adopting.

Harvey Dent's relations to other characters that may appear

Dick Grayson (1st Robin): They hate each other. Early on in his career as Robin, Two-Face almost beat him to death. Dick has decidedly not forgiven him for this.

Jason Todd (2nd Robin): Not always the most friendly with each other, but have worked together in the pages of Task Force Z (which is a specialized Suicide Squad task force that consists of undead supervillains). In Task Force Z, there were kinda vibes that Harvey was the team dad who was just trying his best (but sucked at his job) while Jason was his angsty son with anger issues. Jason's biological father was killed by Two-Face (he worked for/owed money to Two-Face. He didn't pay back, so he was killed), but at this point Jason doesn't really seem to hold a grudge over it. Probably Two-Face's favorite Robin since he's the second Robin.

Tim Drake (3rd Robin): The story that introduced Tim Drake (A Lonely Place of Dying) was a Two-Face story, so in a way, you could say that Two-Face pushed Tim into taking on the role. (Otherwise I personally don't know much about their relationship.)

Commissioner Gordon: They used to be good friends back when Harvey was Gotham's District Attorney. They used to work together a lot, but now they seem to have 0 issues with the idea of killing Gordon.

Other notes:

He has almost no consistent visual design outside of 'male,' 'face is half messed up,' and 'split suits'. While he's usually supposed to have brown hair and green eyes (to make him look different from Bruce), this isn't always stuck to. Hell! There are a handful of iterations of Two-Face that are black!

Harvey Dent/Two-Face are decently influential characters within popular culture. You know the quote, "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." ...? That quote comes from The Dark Knight (2008 film) and is said by Harvey before he becomes Two-Face and ends up being about him. Also the quote of "He isn't the hero we deserve, but he is the hero we need" relates to Harvey as well, though it's spoken about Batman. Also apparently this is a meme that exists and was apparently popular on Reddit, and I only just now learned of it soooo... Pop culture contributions yay?

Recovery is precedented for Harvey! In his original appearance in the 1940's, Harvey actually decided to turn away from his life of crime for the sake of the woman who became his wife and got his face fixed after she proved that she still loved him in spite of his disfiguration. Apparently in the 1980's newspaper strips, Harvey went on to recover there as well! And he even kept his scars that time! (You can actually read this story on Tumblr here!) However in most iterations, when Harvey 'gets better' he usually takes the turn for the worst at some point and sadly goes back to being Two-Face again. But for the most part, Harvey wants to recover and get better, but his Associate wants them to get worse.

A long post, I know. But I hope that you find this helpful or at least mildly interesting! If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! I'd be more than happy to try and answer to the best of my ability! If you made it this far, color me impressed! And if you are indeed a Misha stan who's new to this space, I'm happy to see you here! I hope you have a good day! Love you!

[autisticsupervillain]

FTF Shorts: Not Even Close!

A vs show where the longer analysis and set up is skipped in order to briefly explain why a certain fight is nowhere near close.

This Week's Curbstomp....

Rose Quartz vs Omni-Man!

To get started, Nolan is an absolute beast in combat. A conqueror with hundreds of years of combat experience at the least.

In terms of raw power, Omni-Man is strong enough to, with the help of his son and Thaddeus, punch a hole through a planet, a feat that would require 27 Zettatons at the highest.

He's also fast enough to cross the solar system in at most two weeks:

As impressive as this is, it doesn't even hold a candle to one feat to Rose's name. When the Diamonds attempted to obliterate all life in Earth surface from a galaxy away, they creatsd a diamond blast that lit up the entire galaxy around it. Generating that much light would require an energy equivalent to 3.97 megafoe and to reach earth in the time it did, would've had to have been traveling at 48 trillion times light speed.

In one moment, Rose blocked an attack that was 86,399,998,000,000,000x stronger than Nolan's best feat with help and 1,176,295,800,000x faster than Omni-Man has ever moved in his life.

And that's on top of Rose being much, much older and more experienced than him. While Nolan has been alive for 2000 years, Rose has been alive for eons amd has been fighting against the diamond invaders since the earliest humans first showed up on Earth, roughly 2 million years at the low end. So even if a skill advantage could outmatch a foe billions of times faster and stronger, Omni-Man doesn't even have that. And unlike Rose's regeneration, which could likely let her survive vaporization so long as her gemstone is intact, Nolan's definitively could not survive getting punched to molecules like what that strength gap would do to him.

Now, before we continue, I'm going to head off some arguments I've seen against Rose here.

The Diamond Blast wasn't an attack so it doesn't count for stats. It was just a bright light.

Yes, but it's more complicated than that. Think of it like a lightbulb. Creating light requires energy and in order to function, the lightbulb would have to be durable enough to not melt or explode from channeling that much energy and heat. The Diamonds are very obviously not exploded and Rose is very much comparable to her siblings. Steven inherited all of her powers and he could bring the diamonds to their knees.

It's been stated that Gems can't move FTL.

That statement is very inconsistent within the series itself. Gems can pilot ships that travel intergalactic distances, Lapis can fly to the Homeworld galaxy by herself within a reasonable time span, teleporters move gems across cosmic distances which gems csn still react to, Steven can astral project his soul from another galaxy, etc. Even kn the episode that statement is from, Steven can force himself to the front of his seat to stop the ship, which would require FTL speeds to do.

If you want to throw scientific accuracy into things, then Nolan shouldn't have superpowers because Smart Atoms shouldn't be determined by DNA. Writers are not physicists and sometimes the feats themselves just say "No."

What about crossovers?

A lot of the crossovers with Invincible are dubiously canon at best, even when just restricted to the comic itself. Sticking to just the canon crossovers with the Tick and Supreme, the best Nolan would get is scaling from Suprema who could kick around a star, a planet busting feat.

Certainly an upgrade, but still not in spitting distance of Rose. Only about 8x stronger than Omni-Man's normal feats.

I'm leaving Mortal Kombat and Multiverses at the door because that's a rabbit hole of scaling that never ends and it's obviously not canon. That said, Rose would likely get Superman scaling if you really wanted to go there, so....... (Injustice Superman is not as strong as mainline comics Superman if you want to go there).

That said, this does make me realize that this crossover could totally canonically happen if the companies that be allowed it....

How do you know the Diamonds were on Homeworld when the blast was fired?

Blue Diamond directly states that White hasn't left Homeworld in Eons. She was not speaking exaggerating. Gems who have not spent considerable time with humans consistently do not understand idioms, metaphors, and hyperbole. Neither do the Zoomans, as they were raised in Gem captivity. As such, there was no possible chance for Blue to pick up on that quirk before Future and no reason to take it as anything other than the literal truth. As such, the Diamonds would've had to fire the blast drom Homeworld, which is in another galaxy.

Final Thoughts

Let me end this off with one last point of comparison. In Season 2, Nolan is left so horrified and purposeless from his actions that he contemplates killing himself in front of a black hole. It is heavily implied that the black hole would absolutely kill him if he entered it.

In the tie-in video game, Unleash the Light, Steven and the Crystal Gems are able to walk around inside a black hole without a single scratch on them. Rose was considered the greatest and most powerful of them when she was alive so she absolutely scales to this.

Something that would've absolutely killed Omni-Man did absolutely nothing to people canonically weaker than Rose. That's a wrap from me, chief.

This Throwdown's Winner is.....

Rose Quartz!

[its-just-hyper]

Man, today I want to rant about cringe culture. Im not gonna cover the points about children and neurodivergent people, those have been covered a million times already.

First of all, I want to preface this by saying I have always, ALWAYS been a very “cringey” person. My dynamic in all my relationships for as long as I can remember has been that I’m the “comic relief somewhat pathetic one” and that is self inflicted. My own mother told me that I was so obsessed with undertale that she “didn’t like talking to [me] and regrets not getting [me] tested for autism.”

I’ve been in countless cringe fandoms, including but not limited to mlp, fanfic/fandom culture, mha, animation memes, Henry stickmin, minecraft, Pokémon, the furry fandom, cosplay, sanders sides, dream smp, batim, Aphmau, and MANY others. Undertale has always been the really big thing for me, but recently fnaf has been the thing for me. Because of cringe culture, I hate myself for enjoying things. In order to talk about my interests, self deprecating ironic humor was super common from me.

This humor evolved from irony, to self deprivation, to despising myself for enjoying things considered “cringe” (example is Undertale, but many other things, too), all the way to feeling so much shame for liking anything at all that I distance myself from everything.

Genuinely, I had a meltdown because I like hollow knight. That isn’t even a “cringe” comunity!! It’s one of the chillest out there!!! And because I “like it too much” I made myself feel like shit preemptively.

This next section is a specific example, and this is a really difficult thing for me to admit candidly because of what I’ve already said.

I am in the gacha fnaf community. It’s something I enjoy, and I enjoy it separately from how i enjoy fnaf. SEPARATE FANDOMS, PEOPLE!! (Same with undertale and undertale aus, one is significantly less socially acceptable, and people leave it out of discussions in the other context, but not the other way around.)

I stumbled across a video by a large mainstream gachatuber focusing on and making fun of “gacha fnaf cringe”. All the clips shown were people self-insert shipping themselves with various aftons or animatronics. The only clip that wasn’t that formula, was a strange video about Ennard abusing Michael Afton. They didn’t even appear to be shipped together, it was just Mike getting beat up. Idk man.

After each clip, the YouTuber would say a snarky quip and move on, but the big thing that got to me was that they had never played fnaf, and had avoided it to the point that, on their entire time on the internet, never saw the purple guy sprite.

When someone made William a brunet man with glasses, the joke was about how “I did some research, and apparently William is just a purple blob. That’s not very close to the canon design, huh?”. When William was purple, the joke was about how “the designs are all so inconsistent in the whole community.”

This person but absolutely zero effort into research. At first that baffled me, but then I realized that it’s always true.

Have you ever met someone anti furry who’s given an accurate definition of what a furry even is? Probably not. Has anyone ever added any genuine commentary to a single cringe compilation, other than “wow that’s cringe, kys”??? Probably fucking not.

There are issues within the fnaf gacha community that (if any effort was used) they could have talked about, and had an insightful video. For example, plagiarism is rampant, and shipping in a fandom related to fnaf is inherently…. a very tricky subject, if you will.

Were either of those discussed? Nope. Just comments on how weird it is that William’s been called daddy in the fnaf games before. “Maybe that’s where they got these gross aus from” ((the alias is literally referring to William’s young daughter’s dialogue))

After seeing that bafflingly ignorant video, I went to their channel to see what other stuff they make. Many of the videos were along the lines of “reacting to [thing that is cringe] except I ROAST them!”.

It is truly so, so disgusting that cringe culture isn’t dead. Genuinely. I genuinely think it is the laziest form of content. It’s mean, and pathetic and honestly, what’s the point of it?

It’s not funny, it’s not insightful, it’s not kind, it’s just mean and quick.

Who do you think you’re helping?

[rockybloo]

Something interesting about Jack and Nana and the Red Beans ship in general is how their kids jump between being canon and being a "what if" compared to my other couples.

Jack and Nana don't have children on their "plans for the future" list and are perfectly satisfied just being together by themselves. Both are great with kids but they've never had it as a thing they are like "WE GOTTA HAVE THEM".

Originally, the concept of them having kids was actually an AU. And sometimes it still is while other times it's a peek into the way distant future of their lives. It really depends on my mood. But it's also because of how detached it is from Beanstalked-like it doesn't even happen within the course of the story like with Pluto and Nova. And it isn't even a "future thing that if they time traveled, they'll meet their kids" thing either.

It's jumping between the thing line of a "what if" and "eventually"

Hell, even Sweetheart and Bitterbat's kids are a distant "eventually" that I don't necessarily plan on touching on in comic really except maybe a few very specific circumstances. But it's so far down the line-not as far as Jack and Nana's what if kids but it's off the course of the main story where its focus is just on Bitterbat and Sweetheart.

Pluto and Nova are honestly the only ship I have where their kid happens IN story. Not in the distant future-it is literally a key plot point. And that's because of how important Comet is which is def based on their weird af conception because Nova never actually gives traditional birth. Pluto and Nova have to basically science project him together after discovering there's left overs of the alien goop that made Pluto. And rather than lock it away where it couple possibly fall into the wrong hands-they decided to just use it so they never have to worry about someone making a bigger and badder Pluto.

I think a big factor of why the whole kids timeline is so inconsistent for the other two ships, especially Red Beans, is because I myself have zero plans of having kids. So I tend to write characters who want them in a way that makes sense to me.

Sweetheart and Bittertbat want them because they love each other and they'd love to have a family together because of how much they love each other. It's basically the result of their adoration for each other. And it's not even a "WE HAVE TO HAVE KIDS" thing, they do have a talk about it first and when they both realize the other is ok with having them-it all takes off from their with the entire "oh yeah we're having 12 kids in the future" which winds up being 13 because...well this is Sweetheart and Bitterbat we're talking about.

Pluto and Nova have Comet because, as I explain, he's a good solution to a problem that could have dangerous results if unsolved. And the kid don't even behave like a traditional kid. Like-he is very smart and can mimic voices. He's more like a little chibi fusion of his parents than a baby compared to the other ship kids.

Jack and Nana don't have a goal of having kids nor are they a solution to anything. They are just kids that could happen. They also could not happen. It once again is up to them...and me. So for me, that often translates to "yeah these kids are basically a What If for them" because once again, I write these parent dynamics in a way I can understand. And if a ship is neutral about their stance on having kids-then I also am so it makes sense that their is a future with them and a future without.

[circlemidnight]

Wait, how many writers are on Riverdale that have different ideas? I think that's why this show was always so messy. One writer likes film noirs, the other likes criminal detective shows, this one likes romance, that one likes abstract, that one - horror, and so on. So, every episode feels like different fanfictions by different authors put together for the same content. I mean, Riverdale is kinda already a canonical fanfiction of Archie Comics, right?

But the point is, that's why the characters are off most of the time; and storylines are inconsistent. The writers don't know how to work together and pay attention to each other's writing and previous storylines. I mean, I get it, maybe you don't like Jeronica, but that one writer already wrote them that specific way in 7x04, so, at least give them a proper reconciliation or something so everything that happened between them makes sense. And you mentioned that Jughead was off, and someone else said that Veronica was, too, so I'm not crazy, right? There is clear inconsistency in stories, and also clear inability to work together in the writers' room.

Oh yeah you are not crazy! There has always been a lack of quality and consistency within the writing over the years. Things like forgotten continuity, building up drama and then skipping the fallout, and then of course different writers like different characters more so they give them the quippy dialogue, the best moments, the most screentime per episode etc. Add in actor demands and you basically get a too many cooks situation that is poorly managed and no one really working as a team. It's part of a larger problem for sure, like if you are shuffling through writers every season, each writer has only one or two episodes, and new writers might not even have watched the whole show beforehand, so what's their investment? It's why people find it more rewarding to read fanfic, or they try and scope out which writers seem to be the most pliable and suggestive. Like we want to trust the authors, we want them to be reliable, and instead it's a roll of a dice whether the characters will get the good plot or the satisfying conclusion or even a single breadcrumb. And that's just not how storytelling should be? I don't think it's a secret that the seasons are poorly planned out either, Ras has admitted as much, I mean even this season is the last season they will ever write and it's all been filler. Where's the plot? And there's just other icky things going on. Not handling the serious topics of the era with the right gravitas, sidelining those characters who would have the most important story to tell. Weird things like Jughead saying that they are themselves in their adult bodies but think they are teens, except they are hooking up with what I assume are real teens from 50s Riverdale. But yeah for a season that is back to basics about high school drama, there is no follow through, like Jughead and Ethel were friends, but he doesn't try to visit her anymore, and isn't he supposed to be friends with Archie too? And yet he's more distraught over offending his hero and tries to make it up to him instead of retaining his other relationships. You would think Veronica's words would keep him up at night, but instead he gets to go about his life as an oblivious misogynistic writer I guess?? No resolution??? And credit to Cami because she's working over time to express all the unsaid things her character is feeling that the writers probably forgot about.

The show hides behind memes about how bad or goofy it is, instead of addressing any of the serious problems it has. And I think it's gonna age really badly because of it.

[krikeymate]

How similar to 3 do we think 7 will be?

Given how similar 6 was to 2, and how that was referenced within the movie, do we think 7 will do the same?

Personally, I think they might go in their own direction and not be like 3 at all. After all, the fans are expecting 7 to be like 3.

Do we think they'll take anything from 3 to bring forward?

Hollywood setting/movie backdrop - I've seen a lot of speculation about the possibility of a true crime documentary

Single Ghostface - potentially, but I think more likely they'll go back to classic 2. However given their response to Amber/Quinn being able to kill men larger than themselves, I could see them leaning into the inconsistencies that a single Ghostface could bring - but I think that would be pushing it too far.

Family member - I mean, eyes on Christina Carpenter and the absent Mr Carpenter, a lot of attention being drawn about Sam and Tara being half-siblings, but there is no way. I don't think we'll ever see Mr Carpenter.

Returning characters as the opening kill - personally, I think Martha Meeks is a good shout for if that happens, if they were gonna set it in Woodsboro. Christina is also another potential opening kill, given how if they announce Christina's character everyone will be like she's going to be the killer. But it could be interesting if they had her as the opening kill but it's a fake-out. We've had a 'fake-out' opening kill in 4, but that was for the audience, we haven't had it where it's a fake-out for the characters.

Comic relief character - I honestly think Christina could be played like a Jennifer Jolie type character, except more of a bitch. She would be the perfect red herring.

Estrangement and Return - the Gale and Dewey thing, I wonder if Danny and Sam could actually break up between 6 and 7, and reunite in 7. This would be a really interesting choice that I would love, because everyone keeps referring to Chad/Tara as the new Dewey/Gale, with Sam as the new Sidney. But we know that I think Tara fits the Sidney character as we meet her more, and that I think both Sam and Tara fit into her role.

The ending - I think that if they take anything from 3, it should be this, the group hanging out and getting to be chill and have fun after everything is over. However, Sam had her Sidney staring at the open door moment when dropping the mask in 6, so...

[lord-squiggletits]

I think I've explained this before on my blog, but for everyone who's new here, I have a massive hate boner for supplementary material and extra lore books/comics/etc that are paired alongside Transformers continuities specifically because of my bad experiences being into Star Wars and Warcraft as my previous fandoms lol.

World of Warcraft was a fucking nightmare because once the franchise got big enough, they started releasing stories in the forms of comics and novels and stuff. And the lore in these supplementary materials would be necessary to understand a lot of plot lines that happened in the video games themselves, so it was really annoying because if you liked Warcraft for the lore (as I did) then you had to either buy all of these novels and comics or go on Youtube and read summaries from people who had. And then ON TOP OF THAT the Warcraft writers regularly did retcons and rewrites to the lore, sometimes multiple times for the same characters/plot points/etc (I'm looking at you, Wrathgate), to the point that they basically released new lore bibles every expansion or every other expansion. And it was just really fucking annoying because while I would have loved the chance to have more lore about WoW that didn't fit within the storytelling medium of a video game, in practice it felt more as if Blizzard was just trying to get WoW lore enthusiasts to shill out more money for supplementary materials, but since their writing was so inconsistent that they made constant retcons anyways, it basically felt like a waste of money because why bother buying the lore bibles and caring about continuity when it would probably get retconned in an expansion or two anyways? And then this practice of publishing vital lore in supplementary materials made it so that if you did nothing but play the video game, you would miss out on a lot of lore that ranged from fun tidbits about fan favorite minor characters to entire fucking plotlines informing the entire premise of the new expansion. So basically you had to shell out money to be able to see the new lore that should've been in the actual game but instead was in some random novel that you probably don't care about reading because you're a WoW fan to play a video game not to read a bunch of random novels. And then the Blizzard writers would probably retcon things later so why bother?

And then Star Wars was infuriating because I became a fan during the Sequel Trilogy, which as we all know is a fucking travesty of shitty writing and lack of continuity. The ST is absolutely RIFE with vital information being contained entirely in supplementary materials with little to no way of inferring it just from watching the movies, which were supposed to be self-contained narratives in themselves. Do you want to know how and why Ben Solo destroyed the Jedi temple and became a Knight of Ren? You have to read a comic. Do you want to know how the fuck the Resistance recovered from being a single spaceship full of people to a functioning army by the start of TROS? Read a novelization. Do you want to know what Kylo Ren's motivations were as the new Supreme Ruler of the bad guys and what he's been up to between movies? Read some comics and novelizations. Do you want to know why there's a random fucking army of dudes keeping Palpatine alive on some planet in the middle of nowhere? Read a tweet from the LucasFilm twitter account explaining it. Like, the writing of the movies made no sense and there are HUGE gaps in the narrative that aren't explained in the movies. Instead of just planning out the storyline of the movies and hiring competent writers/directors who would make tight, well-written movies that explain everything to a casual watcher, they decided to spread out vital lore information in comics, novels, novelizations, and other random bullshit.

Do you see now why I hate supplementary material so much lmao? In my experience, when companies have a main story (be it a cartoon, a movie/movie series, etc) and split up lore into supplementary material, such moves are nothing more than a cash grab attempt at swindling fans of the franchise into shelling out money for story details that would have been shown in the actual main story if handled by competent writers.

It's why I hate stuff like TFA's Allspark Almanac and other supplementary materials so much. Sure, there's some stuff in there that lines up neatly with stuff that was shown in the actual TFA cartoon (I'm thinking of the Autobot prison camps that drove Waspinator insane and the way that the Jettwins were created by experimentation), but a lot of the fan favorite details that fans like to incorporate into TFA fanon don't show up in the cartoon literally at all???? Like how supposedly, the Decepticons used to be warbuilds and the Autobots were workers, and the Decepticons rebelled because they didn't want to be used as fodder for wars. You would have literally no way of knowing that just from watching TFA alone and that's why it feels like such horseshit to me; it doesn't show up in the actual TFA cartoon, so if you went through the trouble of buying/finding this Almanac then the extra knowledge you get from it wouldn't be reflected in the cartoon, so it's basically as if the lore doesn't exist and all you got was a bunch of random trivia to put in your headcanons.

I know some fans really enjoy getting extra material exactly BECAUSE it's headcanon material, but to me it feels more like a compensation for rushed/lazy writing at best and an outright money-grab at worst.

[golvio]

Revisiting the early quests hyping up the Yiga Clan reminded me of one of the really noticeable problems I had with BotW’s writing: the inconsistent and wildly fluctuating tone for the “serious” parts.

The introduction to the Clan most people get is from the guards outside of Impa’s house describing them as “sad souls” who went off the path Hylia laid out for them with pity. Then, Paya’s heirloom quest has them built up as remorseless killers in an organized crime ring, murdering Dorian’s wife in cold blood and being perfectly happy to orphan his daughters now that Dorian himself is no longer a useful informant. If you take on that quest early, odds are the Yiga Blademaster who shows up is going to kick your ass.

And then you actually enter the Yiga hideout and the same Blademasters that beat your ass when you were a lower level now have animations like this:

This isn’t an “uuuuuuuu y aren’t villains cool n edgy anymore like my beloved ‘90s comic books 😭” post. I’m okay with Kohga being silly. I love the concept of a character who’s at once funny and entertaining but also a really dangerous and skilled combatant who uses his clownish first impression to get people to let their guard down. The main problem I have with it is just that the tone is not consistent at all. The clan feels less like the complex, multifaceted organization that arose from a complicated and traumatic historical situation it deserves to be and more like all the scenario writers had great ideas but somehow forgot to get together and talk to each other about how to weave them into a coherent whole. It swings wildly back and forth between them being this scary force of assassins capable of infiltrating even the Sheikah secret service undetected to “Haha, look at these dork-ass losers! They were dumb enough to serve Ganon! Only a total dweeb would be scared of these banana-obsessed clowns!” Which is, y’know, kind of insulting to the Sheikah who actually did have legitimate reasons to be scared of these people based on what we saw with Dorian.

It’s like what bugged me about the main conflict within the Zora. It wanted to tell a story about generational trauma and bigotry, but was so terrified of presenting anything unflattering to the player and the lost kingdom of Hyrule that it turned everyone into goofy, exaggerated caricatures performing for our amusement. The Zora elders weren’t a bunch of extremely traumatized people who needed to heal, they were just a bunch of curmudgeonly old fuddy duddies who were out of touch and needed to get over themselves (Which they instantly did, because of how cool and awesome the player is for putting up with their stubborn old people nonsense. You’re so cool that the hot Zora princess everyone’s mourning was throwing herself at your avatar! Isn’t that awesome?). And Sidon wasn’t allowed to be a character in his own right, doing what he thought could help heal his people while risking a revolt or a forced abdication for breaking the ban against outsiders behind the elders’ backs! He’s just Your Funny Friend Who Encourages You, because he exists solely to get you to your objective at Vah Ruta, and the game never lets you forget it. And the younger generation of Zora, some of whom remember Link before his death, aren’t symbols of the younger generation trying to move forward at the risk of starting a major generational conflict with their parents/grandparents who’re still traumatized from the Calamity because it was practically yesterday in Zoran terms. They’re just funny clowns who put on a show for you and point you towards the bridge where Sidon’s waiting.

It’s like…they wanted the royal advisor seeing the armor Mipha made for Link to be this big, emotional moment, but the writers spent so much time assuring us that we didn’t need to respect the Zora that it felt…like something was missing, emotionally. Like, “Oh, you don’t need to take those old coots seriously! Sure, they’re all mad at Link for something he had no control over, but they’re just stubborn and old! You don’t need to take their cold silence so personally! Just keep your chin up and eventually they’ll realize how stupid they were being for ever doubting you, the great hero who’s come to save them!” And when Muzu’s looking up at the statue of Mipha, there’s not a sense of this broken community coming back together to heal, or a man in deep denial of his own grief coming out of the dark place his heart had been lost in to the point where he treated the little boy he once knew as a scapegoat, and more just him being, “Oh, right! How could I have been so stupid?”

It’s like…these people are traumatized. The Zora are grieving because the apocalypse practically happened yesterday. The Yiga were traumatized by the royal family, who their religion told them they were born to serve, attempted a genocide against them. Both of them are understandably lashing out against a world that they think forgot them, that blithely moves on, unburdened by the grief they caused them, not a care in the world. The game doesn’t want to sit with these emotions because it might make the player uncomfortable, interrupt the hero fantasy, spoil their fun. But in exchange for trying to maintain a lighthearted tone throughout, it just feels like the writers aren’t really respecting their NPCs as much as they should, and deliver a somewhat jarring experience where the emotional pendulum wildly swings back and forth depending on the whims of whichever writer was at the helm when they wrote that quest/sidequest that day.

The whole game is a story about trauma, or at least, it wants to be. The main character himself lost his identity after a near-death experience, either because of brain damage he suffered after the physical trauma he endured, or as traumatic amnesia caused by his mind desperately trying to protect him from the memory of something no one should have to endure. But the game just can’t sit with trauma. It doesn’t want to tie the concepts it introduces into a coherent, consistent theme that spans every inch of the world, every character. It just wants to introduce its cool new UI and have fun. Which…there’s nothing necessarily wrong with that, but can you at least make up your minds about what kind of overall story you want to tell as opposed to spitballing interesting pieces of story ad infinitum?

I’m a little worried about dropping this take, particularly because we all now know that BotW was designed to be the first part of a series, and so suffered a case of what I like to call “To Be Continued Syndrome.” It was built to introduce the world of Hyrule and its new mechanics & concepts to its audience first and foremost, with far less time being spent on the story. For all I know, TotK could resolve a lot of my complaints with what appears to be a stronger focus on story than BotW with more actively present characters, as opposed to Ganon and Zelda kinda hanging out at the castle and not really affecting anything until it’s time to beat the game.

But, it’s like…I’ve seen games at least try to treat their NPCs with more respect and put more thought into their storytelling without having to sacrifice gameplay or exploration, both in big budget and smaller indie titles. I’d like the Zelda series to finally catch up, too. I love the series, and I know they’ve got the potential to tell really compelling stories that don’t treat the characters who aren’t destined to be great heroes like nobodies you can just breeze past. I saw that in Majora’s Mask. I know they can do it again. I hope that’s what they meant when they said they wanted TotK to feel more like Majora in tone.

[centralcitylibrary]

Central City Library's Tiers of Canonicity

With a franchise going on as long as Sonic, with as many different writers handling the reins, inconsistency isn’t just likely, it’s to be expected. So how do we, at the Central City Library, handle canonicity?

Well, the best explanation is always the most consistent one, so let’s begin with an objective metric to organise priority for entries. This will be handled by way of “tiers”, so to speak.

Sonic Team canon: the core games (platformers developed by (or in collaboration with) Sonic Team). That list includes the following:

Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis/Mega Drive)

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Genesis/Mega Drive)

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles

Sonic 3D Blast: Flickies’ Island

Sonic R

Sonic Adventure

Sonic the Hedgehog Pocket Adventure

Sonic Shuffle

Sonic Adventure 2

Sonic Advance

Sonic Advance 2

Sonic Pinball Party

Sonic Battle

Sonic Heroes

Sonic Advance 3

Shadow the Hedgehog (NGC/PS2/XB)

Sonic Rush

Sonic Riders

Sonic the Hedgehog (PS3/360)

Sonic & the Secret Rings

Sonic Rush Adventure

Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity

Sonic Unleashed (both the PS3/360 and PS2/Wii versions)

Sonic & the Black Knight (technicality, as part of the storybook subseries)

Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1

Sonic Free Riders

Sonic Colours (both versions)

Sonic Generations (both versions)

Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 2

Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode Metal

Sonic Lost World (both versions)

Sonic Free Runners

Sonic Mania (explicitly ties into Sonic Forces)

Sonic Forces

Team Sonic Racing (explicitly referenced in Sonic Frontiers)

Sonic Frontiers

SEGA themselves appear to agree with this as taking the highest priority, going by the Steam page of The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog. Yes this is an April Fool’s game, but they still give us a specific indication of its canonicity outside of the “everything is canon” gag.

Games canon: all official games not developed by Sonic Team, specifically those not rendered non-canonical. No list provided due to volume.

Expanded canon: all official alternative media, specifically those not rendered non-canonical. This list includes:

Sonic Forces (promotional comic)

Sonic Mania Adventures

Sonic the Hedgehog (IDW comics)

Sonic Prime (Television series)

Sonic Channel short stories

Miscellaneous shorts released on the Sonic the Hedgehog Youtube account

Miscellaneous canon: all official information put out that isn’t in a story in and of itself, including

Miscellaneous videos on the Sonic the Hedgehog Youtube channel

Miscellaneous information on the Sonic Channel website

Information books such as the Sonic the Hedgehog Encyclo-Speed-Ia

Miscellaneous tweets on the official social media accounts - primarily stuff like SonicPict, the gag posts are likely of little actual relevance.

Non-canonical information, the primary reason this isn’t excluded entirely is because sometimes it can be interesting to talk about these sources despite their non-canonicity. This list includes:

All Word of God statements (given the franchise is in constant flux, secondary WoG statements have suggested ignoring WoG as a legitimate source before, and, sometimes, people are just wrong)

Sonic the Hedgehog Spinball & Sonic the Fighters (makes irrevocable errors to the continuity, namely putting in more Chaos Emeralds than what actually exist)

Sonic Chronicles: the Dark Brotherhood (one of the few games to be explicitly confirmed non-canon without a WoG statement)

Games with no story (such as a majority of the Sonic Cafe games)

Media set in alternative continuities will not be mentioned primarily because if it comes up it would be as part of their own dedicated lore pieces.

But even within each tier of canon they’re going to be conflicting evidence, so here’s some more information on what takes priority:

Information that’s presented within the individual games/[primary medium] takes priority above all else, as those are the actual stories as they exist

Attached media (such as game manuals) would take the next highest priority, as it is indeed directly attached to the media.

Official books relating to the media (such as official game guides) come next.

Both English and Japanese will be used, due to the writers for various games in the series being Japanese or English first and (by extension) having their stories written in English or Japanese, though the original language will be given automatic priority.

Non-Japanese sources prior to Sonic Adventure (released in 1999 outside of Japan) will be discarded due to the three main regions (Japan, USA, and the UK) having different continuities outright.

Within even these tiers, the most consistent explanation (that is to say the information with the least contradictions) takes the next highest priority.

And lastly, if multiple pieces of conflicting information are equally consistent, the most recent explanation takes priority.

I hope this makes our stance on the subject of canonicity clear for the present and future.

[graffitibible]

Do you have a Danger Days timeline? Because I am trying to make on and I am STRUGGLING

i do, though i’m still building parts of it. rn it goes from the 1960s to the 2030s so it’s like...a vast stretch of time that devolved into alternate history. i can’t share the whole thing because Spoilers but i use it to keep track of world events and character ages and stuff and i’ll probably share it once i feel like i wouldn’t like...give away massive important stuff by doing so lol

if you want a hint tho? make shit up. i seriously honestly just shuffle shit around as much as i need to in order to make it make sense because i will tell you this: this timeline is NOT consistent. like in the slightest. it is not consistent between the music videos and the comics, and it is not even internally consistent in the comics. 

if you want to know how MUCH bullshit the danger days timeline actually is:

the may death never stop you trailer puts 2019, explicitly, as the year that everything Happens:

California, 2019. In the final days of The Helium Wars, and shortly after the disappearance of Australia, Better Living Industries unveils Battery City: a shining utopia free of decisions and emotion, and capital of the entire remnants of America. A triumph threatened only by a young orphan girl with a terrible secret. Running from the Corporation, she befriends four freelance anarchists, children born of violence and rock and roll.

like you mean to tell me that battery city was established and somehow got a LOT of political and social capital in the same year? possible, maybe, but i’m not sure how plausible that is - especially if a word-of-mouth revolution as widespread and culturally ingrained as the killjoys have been around for at least as long. the final days of the helium wars (which canon often conflates with the analog wars for an extra layer of confusion - were they the same war? who knows!! the lore never tells us this!) happened at the same time?

when the comics came out, it added a whole nother layer of mindfuck. the phoenix witch calls the fabulous four “teenagers” despite the fact that they were played by fellas in their thirties. for my part, i placed them somewhere in the middle age-wise, varying from late teens to early twenties - young, but not in middle school.

but we can chalk that up to a lot of things - dawson casting, the fact that mcr was playing characters younger than them and not merely versions of themselves, etc. but that bit of weirdness pales in comparison to the timeline for the girl’s age in general.

she was “born on the battlefield” according to the phoenix witch, so her mother couldn’t have given birth to her that much long after she was caught and turned into a drac. so, let’s say 2015 at the latest. even putting aside that 2019 was assumed to be the year that the music videos took place, the timeline we get in the comics is utterly nonsensical. if the girl was born in 2015 at the latest, that means that she would be twelve by the time the killjoys were exterminated in the comics timeline, 2027. all this despite the fact that she was a) young enough to have forgotten their faces once at age fifteen, and b) the fact that the comics estimate her age to have been around six when she was with the fab four.

on TOP of that, the comics claim it to be the “twelve year anniversary” of the death of the fabulous four, and no matter what the girl’s age was when she ran with them...why would she be fifteen?? that means that she was three when she was with the killjoys - not six like vamos posits, and not twelve like the comics timeline would claim. she would be eighteen at the youngest, but the comics puts her at fifteen - and that file we see up there is supposed to be present day since it mentions cherri cola and the ultra-v’s, both of whom the girl only got tight with during the events of the comics themselves and not before.

in conclusion: the canon timeline we get is inconsistent as fuck so we all decided Fuck That and started making shit up

at least that’s what i did lol. like, you are straight up not going to be able to come up with a timeline that follows every piece of canon we get and makes cohesive sense. i have tried, and it’s...it’s a lot. it’s a headache, and it’s not worth it. i have no idea why the timeline is so fucky in this canon and at this point i have chosen to shuffle around when things happened for the sake of consistency without sacrificing the events themselves. i put the death of the fabulous four at 2019 in spite of the comics timeline, for example.

what makes it easier for me is to visualize the whole thing as like...a story. which obviously it is a story but visualizing it as more of a legend or myth that’s being told through different versions and by different narrators. different people have different pieces of the puzzle and different people will remember things and when/how they happened differently. for someone, they remember the exact date of something and know when that event happened. for someone else, they remember only pieces but guess at a date at random. it’s like a story being told through different perspectives and as it’s passed down and down and down, certain things get lost, rewritten, moved around, and outright forgotten.

the phoenix witch and bl/ind are not reliable narrators - they emphasize different parts of the same story. the ultra-v’s are not reliable narrators - they weren’t there when the events of the music videos happened. cherri cola is not a reliable narrator - he was emotionally involved in a lot of aspects of this history and blames himself for certain things beyond his control. the girl is not a reliable narrator - she doesn’t remember a lot of the earlier parts, by her own admission.

the timeline doesn’t make sense. i chose to move things around while retaining what happened but not everyone does, and i don’t blame them lol. i wanted consistency so i just decided to start doing it myself cause uh this timeline sure is a Lot

so in short go hog fuckin wild and make up when shit happens because this canon is allergic to consistency

[crazyw3irdo]

obsessed with the sheer amount of people who’ve responded to the dickwing… i guess it’s a fic at this point? by saying it’s better than any dc comic has been in the past few years like i know it’s a low bar but tysm ❤️

[shinelikethunder]

Do you have any sense of what it is about SPN that makes seemingly every person who has watched it come away with a wildly different interpretation of What SPN Is About?

I swear every person I follow who posts about SPN seems to be posting about a totally different show.

I watched Kripke-era SPN like ?a decade ago? so I don't really have a firm belief that anyone is Obviously Wrong or anything. I just feel like I don't see this kind of deeply fragmented reaction towards any other shows...

first of all there's just an awful fucking lot of it; the quality, tone, and focus are wildly inconsistent from season to season, episode to episode, even within episodes; post-Kripke showrunners were a lot more prone to always having a gazillion half-developed subplots full of potential that got aborted way too soon or dragged out into tediousness; overall, everything after s5 feels a lot less thematically cohesive and more like writers throwing ingredients of the SPN Formula at the wall to see what'll stick this time.

mostly, though, i think at heart it's just that it's always been a bunch of good and compelling stuff living inside a show that is Frequently Atrocious. and as the later seasons got more fragmented and the amount of canon to choose from got massive, the material that actually went into the Good SPN That Lived In Individual Viewers' Heads diverged more and more. it's possible that it doesn't behave like a normal tv show fandom because the sheer volume of canon approaches, but doesn't quite reach, the "pick and choose or you WILL go insane" status of comics fandoms or Doctor Who.

(i mostly stick to my tiny corner, but i also have a general impression that the destiel side is way more heavily invested in later seasons, so it isn't even like everyone is starting from the same core of relative narrative unity early on. like i was on LJ in 2007 and i KNOW people were wanking themselves silly about which parts of s1-3 sucked or didn't suck, but i don't think the "everyone is secretly watching a different SPN" effect had quite set in by then. and those are the seasons people skip or skim if they're just waiting for cas to show up.)

[antiloreolympus]

7 Anti LO Asks

1. any time someone excuses bad LO art as "thats just her style!" it's clearly someone who isn't an artist. we know RS graduated art school and all but it's clear especially by now that's all been forgotten for the sake of monetary gain. What was unique in the beginning (strong use of color, lighting, composition, etc) has been forgone for out of place sketchup backgrounds, rushed coloring, anatomy failures, and lazy compositions. it just doesnt look good anymore and hasnt for a long time.

2. i feel like everything happening in lo would make more sense if it was spread over months/years instead of hourly. the fact it's nearly 200+ eps and it's only covered at most a month is absolutely ridiculous and makes the characters make no sense and like their change entire characterizations and goals within a few minutes. it also cuts down on any stakes when any supposed high tension moments are undercut by the fact theyre fixed as hour or so later in universe.

3. TBH i liked the idea of the limited color palette in the beginning but it's by now one of LO's worst ideas. when it was just a limited cast to the original hymn the limited colors were unique to each character, which is a good thing. but now there's 200+ other characters who repeat the same coloring (despite there being a whole color wheel to use) that even dedicated fans get confused who is who. rachel refusing to rein herself in isnt just bad for the story, it weakens the visuals as well.

4. tbh this is a modern media issue esp on the internet but its so obvious lo readers (and rachel literally designed "persephone" to be this way) project themselves onto persephone, which is why they get so defensive to defend her and justify all her awful actions/traits because they see it an personal insult to them as well. rachel does the same thing in making persephone both designed off herself and her bering her idealized self. its really not a healthy way to interact with fictional beings,

5. Why does Rachel always use poc/minority features when a character is considered bad or in a sexual manner?? Whenever Persephone is the victim or meek she suddenly has euro-centric features and no curves?? Sure. The racism is radiating. How the fuck are you going to play that off as an artistic choice?? Quirky not having the talent of being consistent ig.

From OP: I don’t think it’s racism, RS is just extremely inconsistent. I do hate how she plays her inconsistency off as being flexible and part of the charm. Like, it’s not a good thing in a comic for your characters to change body types in back to back episodes or even from panel to panel.

6. The dynamic between Hades and Persephone is literally based on a different lgbt couple. Just straight. Like how did the author even get away with it and even got all the big publishing deals but the other author didn't?? Like.... is it because Rachel is white or... 🤔 🤔

7. i dont think rachel gets this but having every single woman throw themselves at hades and talking about how much sex he has doesnt actually prove to us hes a desirable partner?? like he could be as unexperienced as persephone because it matters more that hes just like, a well written character who meshes well with persephone and they have chemistry together, not that rachel keeps insisting he has soooo much sex and every woman is in love with him. just?? have him be a character??? that's it??