#but i want to be able to do it myself because i don't want them to have to do even more stuff for me

[nesmamomen]

Let's talk I know I don't have many followers but I wish everyone would see this... Women here are shy to talk about this but I won't be shy and I will tell you a little bit of my experience because some of you will feel disgusted (I don't know why) During my period I didn't have sanitary pads. Do you know what I did? I had to tear some of my clothes and make pads for my period and the really painful thing was trying to hide myself while I was washing them. The pain here became double. First, the pain of using these poorly handmade pads and the biggest pain was trying to hide myself while I was washing and hanging them. In fact, I was proud that I was able to help myself in providing an alternative, but the biggest shock was when the symptoms started to appear on me, severe infections, rashes and severe pain in the vaginal area...

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[desisailormoon]

Since she is on my mind atm…Persephone!

1.) so her appearance kind of came first because she was based off my Reverse of Arcadia avatar! And originally her name was Esther but I stopped resonating with it at one point. She also started being vaguely inspired by YooA from Oh My Girl in my mind and now she has detracted from that a lot since, but I can't remove her from Seph either. Her character and plot came to be from that game and Oh My Girl’s “Closer” <3

2.) not quite!

3.) I liked the name Esther at the time because of Orphan LOL, but when the name stopped sounding right my dear friend Anx picked out Persephone for me and it suits her perfectly! Her last name Caelum was picked in reference to her Sanctuary of the Sky deck but that name may not be her actual family game…(shall get back to you on that)

4.) growing up in a disaster torn area means the Satellite is one big graveyard, also learning to fend for herself as a girl growing up in it all while having a lonely childhood. That being said with her being able to grow plants and create art lets her breathe life into the most barren places.

5.) nothing too significant but her color palette is very earthy and warm.

6.) her eyes are big, brown doe eyes! She kinda looks like a fawn that was turned into a human and that theme of innocence (or projected innocence) comes up a lot for her. As a dark Signer, her eyes are black and red.

7.) she only stands at 5 feet. I am struggling to put it into words but her looking so unassuming in delicate actually works against her in the area she’s in and the conflicts she deals with.

8.) a lot. May have accidentally poured too much. the desire to return to something you can't. loving people even if they don't love you back at large. wanting to prove yourself and live in a world that puts a target on your back.

9.) not intentionally! but I've accepted how much I've poured into her.

10.) honestly it kind of wrote itself—I didn’t intentionally tailor her to Kiryu, but it worked out in the end! And in another universe, she is in, and she ended up bagging my friend’s OC Rei! <3

11.) nope! also wrote itself! our bi/pan queen <3

12.) trying to balance her duality, and transferring her most positive traits into negative/villainy for her dark signer self in a way that feels true to her without feeling forced or edgy.

13.) honestly that's a WIP because I'm not too sure myself LOL

14.) Seph is like if a female character in a shounen became aware of her place in stories like these and actively fought it.

15.) Seph being a gremlin never fails to make me laugh, anything with her being teasing or a troublemaker.

16.) anything involving Seph’s inner child, healing it through the twins or West and Nico, her relationship to Martha always make me emotional. Or anytime she realizes how loved she remained after her memory loss.

17.) element I regret? Not quite. Sometimes I feel like she should have more of a plant deck rather than her sanctuary deck but I still think they suit her.

18.) boy…she has been on my mind lots. I think the layers and implications of what it meant for her to be a female duel gang member were in my face during a recent wip. and damn.

19.) just one? Well lemme do a lil more:

- post Crashtown and well, post canon Seph takes over Barbara’s flower shop and it turns into a metaphysical shop as well. she also reads people’s decks and even channels monster cards!

- Seph would love animals in general, but bats and ball pythons are animals she adores even if others may be scared of them.

- one of Seph’s first crushes was a girl in the Satellite. She fell asleep on her shoulder once and ended up astral projecting to the spirit world! They could have dated but it scared that girl so bad she stopped seeing Seph 💔

- Seph used to be a huge Misty fangirl! With what little internet access she had, she would draw a lot of her photo shoots and watch interviews. When she would talk about seeing people’s fortunes with her faces, she wanted to meet her one day in hopes they would understand each other over having strange abilities.

- Seph likes to hang around cemeteries. She would draw spirits and leave flowers because the dead were much kinder to her and she didn't want the spirits to feel lonely, too. She longed to find people that would tend to her grave when she passes.

Questions About Creating Your OCs

‘Cause sometimes the stories of how OCs come to be are just as interesting as the OCs, themselves. Tell me how your virtual kids came into the world.

What was the first element of your OC that you remember considering (name, appearance, backstory, etc.)? 

Did you design them with any other characters/OCs from their universe in mind? 

How did you choose their name? 

In developing their backstory, what elements of the world they live in played the most influential parts? 

Is there any significance behind their hair color? 

Is there any significance behind their eye color? 

Is there any significance behind their height? 

What (if anything) do you relate to within their character/story? 

Are they based off of you, in some way? 

If they have an LI, how much of their character is tailored to be compatible to that person? 

Did you know what the OC’s sexuality would be at the time of their creation? 

What have you found to be most difficult about creating art for your OC (any form of art: writing, drawing, edits, etc.)? 

How far past the canon events that take place in their world have you extended their story, if at all? 

If you had to narrow it down to 2 things that you MUST keep in mind while working with your OC, what would those things be? 

What is something about your OC can make you laugh? 

What is something about your OC can make you cry? 

Is there some element you regret adding to your OC or their story? 

What is the most recent thing you’ve discovered about your OC? 

What is your favorite fact about your OC?

[poetry-protest-pornography]

Why is it that every single time I post something about self compassion and being a little kinder to yourself, some people insist on reblogging it with some variation of "sounds fake, I will do this for other people, but not hating myself just isn't for me lol"?

Like, the whole point is that it's a purposeful decision to not tear yourself into pieces. It's a conscious decision to try to treat yourself like a friend, like someone who you care about. It's about reframing the way you think about what you deserve, and repairing your relationship with yourself. It's challenging the negative messaging that your anxiety or depression or your trauma have convinced you is real, because it makes it easier to keep going and to find joy in things when you don't hate yourself.

And it's really really fucking hard to do.

It is a struggle to learn, it is often painful and difficult and annoying, and still, it is worth the work to be able to, on occasion, have a thought about yourself start from a place of kindness, that leaves you room to consider what's happening (or happened) without taking on all the real or imagined fault. Without immediately jumping to self deprecating or self flagellation. With a moment of understanding -- the understanding and care you would offer a friend -- directed inwards.

I don't share these things to be trite, or to be preachy. I share them because I need them, and I know someone else might too. They are reminders to myself just as much as they are for anyone else who might see them, and the shitty little comments are frankly insulting, not just to me, but to everyone making an effort to like themselves a little more, and to break the cycles that hating yourself traps you in.

So knock it off, because, yes, this work is for you. You are worth the effort it takes to want to live and be happier. So do the work.

(as an example, it was incredibly hard for me to try to use positive language here, and I had to actively go back and reword things. every "be happier" and "like yourself more" started as "be less miserable" and "hate yourself less", because this shit is hard to unlearn, but with practice gets easier)

[xxnori-dorixx]

A short moment from the story:

"Suddenly I realized that all this time I was standing in place, almost without even noticing how the mer had already swum closer to me... much closer, only a meter away from me!

My heart began to beat in panic, and my hand tightly clutched the knife. Swimming from this predator is clearly useless, it is larger and more resilient and will certainly be able to quickly catch up with me if it wants... I will have to fight, even if I have to harm such a beautiful individual. I swallowed, mentally cursing myself for getting distracted until I noticed that the mer had stopped as well. Their fins dipped back nervously at the sight of my weapon, but then they looked back at me, letting out a soft chirp. Their gaze was no longer intense, but looked almost… curious, concerned? And their mouths had taken on a thin line, as if modest and cautious.

The muscles in this creature's face allow them to express emotion almost like a human face… amazing.

I blink, coming back to reality, recovering from the shock, when the mer chirps again, a little louder, clearly wanting to get my attention. Only now do I notice that their hands are… painfully human-like, folded at their chests, as if holding something there.

Finally convinced that I have their attention, they carefully move their hands, and holding them together, they hold them out to me. I dare not move, although I strain myself, looking at the unnatural actions of this predator.

And then, opening their large hands, I see that in their palm (which, by the way, also had five fingers! And claws, clearly dangerous) there are some objects... or rather, resources! And obviously those that I have never seen before, but you don't need to be a genius to understand that I needed them.

My eyes widened in disbelief, looking at the offering.

I quickly began to scroll through in my head what this could mean: usually gifts between representatives of the fauna are a sign of peace, friendship, well, or in the mating season, attracting partners. But could this also mean a sign that they are unhappy with me being on their territory?

I carefully look into their eyes, trying to understand what they are thinking. The body language gives away no signs of aggression: the spiny fins on the back were in a lying position, as were those around the head between those very fin petals (the spiny fins are probably venomous, I guessed), and this clearly looks like a friendly gesture.

It seems that the mer does not want to eat me, but just want to be friends..."

(I decided to draw Sun's design for my story, and also because it's may:3)

[iojg]

Alright, let us get to work! I both dread these chains of long winded posts and love them, and this one is more so in particular -- I really enjoy what we are talking about, but I see here a great potential for talking past one each other. I sincerely hope we will be able to bypass that threat. To that end, I will do the "quoting a part of message and then answering" thing, but I will try not to split our conversation into several different topics we pursue in parallel. To achieve that, I will not quote you chronotopically, instead using quotes to sorta subtitle the parts of my whole argument. I also want to assure you that despite me not quoting large swaths of your post, I've read it in full multiple times before starting to write this, and I'll likely reread it after writing this sentence still. Without further delay,

It's What My Character Would Do

Firstly, I'd like to say that, as far as I understand, you don't hold any animosity towards the hypothetical quoted player here, despite the stated infamy. Rather I believe we both agree that it is a matter of mismanaged expectation between the player and the GM: the first wants to advocate for her character, the second wants to tell her story, which she prepped. I want then to *go on the record* and state that I will from this point speak mainly about games in which "saying what your character does" is the crux of the game -- in my preferred style of game this is THE fun part. Now, I will say something that I believe will underscore the whole matter of our disagreement, and which will be, essentially, my thesis: I believe that there is a kind of prep damaging to this play, and a kind of prep conductive to it, all while there is a kind of improv that is damaging and a kind that is conductive too. I don't believe that the important line lies between prep or no prep here at all.

When that decision was made - right now, or in last night's prep - doesn't matter. What matters is when it's spoken into reality in front of the other players.

Now, I think you are missing something rather important right here. I think the missed part is the most important thing about SIS (I would myself just say "fiction", but I enjoy your partiality to that anachronism, so let's stick to it!) and that it is *how it is managed*. That is, who, how and when gets to decide what is part of SIS and what isn't. I think this social situation surrounding SIS is the most important and meaningful because it is way more uncontroversially real than its interior. Whether GM gets to make up that there is a village in a middle of play is a matter social relations between real people, just as in general who gets to speak when and about what exactly.

The work of a really well-prepared GM who's really good at running a pre-planned game will be largely indistinguishable from the work of a really good 0-prep GM who has instead learned to build the game on the fly. ... However, the accepted default is an extremely high-prep approach, and that high-prep approach often leads to negative outcomes... That's what I'm pushing back against, right?

For my money, actually, there is nearly zero distinction between the two in practice, as far the social situation is concerned, because what is happening there in both cases is that GM assumes a role of some sort of entertaining storyteller by taking control of the story, and making it go wherever she likes. In the first case, she predetermines the matter before play. In the second case, she decides where the story goes on the fly. But the sitch is basically the same if you squint a bit: the important part is that *she decides*.

The kind of play I enjoy, the story does not go where GM wants, the story follows established fiction (contains of SIS). Counter-intuitively, I think GM deciding what's the most fun thing to happen would be is the most ruinous thing to fun here, because it is completely unsupportive of my favourite "It's What My Character Would Do!" style of play, because it relies upon there being emergent consequences for character action. Otherwise, what is happening is quantum ogre sans prep: whatever the characters do, GM makes *whatever is fun* happen. The fact that she doesn't know before the game isn't what's important, what's important is that she *decides*. And to clarify, the problem is not that she doesn't take into account what is fun for the players or not, that's besides the point. The story made up by GM on the fly for the players' tastes is still a story made up by GM. No *finding out* is happening.

Just as you, I imagine here the most extreme scenario possible. You can obviously, for example, establish the situation in full during the first 20 minutes of play, agreeing that what will be collectively made up there is what the game is about. Or, more radically, you can improv it during the first few sessions of play, and then gradually shift to explore it, the way Apocalypse World plays out when done close to text. But if your desired style of play is not GM's story, the shift must occur at some point, and it might just occur between prep and first session.

Now, another important thing is that spreading the GM role around doesn't really help. I will not elaborate at this time, because the whole reply is starting to tire me out, but such measure just basically shifts the problem to game being shared by several storytellers. Still not playing to find out by my definition.

At this moment, I have my attention span killing my ability to write further. I hope it's not too insulting how I practically ignored your second part of the post, but I hope you can see that if I do so at that time the conversation will get really unwieldy. If it's not too much to ask, please tell me if I really need to address some concern of yours before you can honestly reply to me, and I will do so. Again, sorry for not being thorough, and for not ending my response properly!

writing intricate backstories is the playerside equivallent of the gm prep burden

[dragongirlsweetie]

Regarding your sandwich post (as someone probably egging tf out)

Do you have advice on knowing whether you want to be a woman vs wanting to be intimate (platonic/romantic/sexual) with one?

Bc like I think 95% of my egging is just finding women hot, with the incorporated "idk why the fuck a woman would willingly chose to date a man these days"

Which honestly sounds pretty egg but idk.

well i have two things to say regarding this. first off my sandwich post is just some bullshit i wrote because i was eating a sandwich and had been awake for a grand total of 5 hours, 4 of them at work and another half hour driving to work. second is that if my bullshit meaningless sandwich post is making you question yourself this hard i'm guessing there's probably something to it

now you are on anon and i know next to nothing about you (aside from this ask) so i'm just gonna cover all my bases here: these are concerns i had a lot of in my eggy stages and ultimately i think that if you wanna try giving being a woman a shot, even if just in private with a few trusted friends, you should go ahead and do it. worst case scenario is you get an answer to your question. if you find the idea of being a woman or having people see you as one makes you a bit giddy and bring out some kind of longing ache in your chest that's another good sign. and if you are looking for permission to be a woman, as i really needed before my egg really cracked, then i am officially giving you permission. you are allowed to want to be a woman and you are allowed to be a woman

my final thought is that the lines between a desire for identity and a desire for intimacy can often be very blurry, and i myself often mistook my desire to be a woman as just me being attracted to them. ow that my egg has cracked i know now that the reason i felt that way is because i wanted to be like that too. and i know that there was never really a meaningful distinction between my desire for identity and my desire for intimacy, the two were just different manifestations of the same core feeling that i am not eloquent enough to describe

that last paragraph probably doesn't make a lot of sense right now, and if you transition in the future it might or it might not. we're all fucked in the head in different and beautiful ways. point is don't let yourself get caught up in wondering if what you're feeling is one or the other. take it as slow as you need to but give it a shot. like i said, worst case scenario you find out the answer to your question and can move on with your life. and while i don't know much about you, i do know that cishet men generally don't spend a lot of time wondering if their attraction to women could instead be a desire to be a woman, and they definitely don't get so caught up in those thoughts that a post about trans women staring hungrily at sandwiches would lead them to start asking around for answers. as the saying goes: don't die wondering

sorry i rambled quite a bit there, but i hope i was able to give you the push in the right direction that my younger self desperately needed, or at the very least helped you find an answer to something that was bothering you. and i also don't really know how to end this. uhh byebye! good luck!

[drawingmisandrist]

i know i don't have to explain myself to anyone, but the reason i advocate so heavily for self care and being able to look at yourself in the mirror with pride is because growing up, pride was something only my brothers were allowed to have. Freedom and shamelessness in their bodies. Praise and not criticism. We don't all have the same experiences in life but I do want to share my perspective. You might not understand the feeling of having to cook and set up iftaar every day for ramadan when your brothers were playing outside or napping all day, and they still get to eat first, and you still have to wash the dishes because its a "girl's job", or the feeling of having to raise your younger sibling while your brother plays fortnite shirtless while still being favoured for existing and you criticised for not doing a 'good enough job', but i still want you to understand where i'm coming from.

You grow up feeling and being taught that everything is wrong with you because you're a girl, and you have to be smaller, quieter, more uninteresting, less colourful, more robotic. So in my opinion, eating more is a form of rebellion. Wearing what I want is rebellion. Caring about what I want first IS rebellion. Allowing myself to be colourful and express myself is rebellion.

I'm not advocating for clean eating/skincare neuroses that plague women nowadays, or trying to feed into worries and anxieties about being "clean" enough when I give 'self care' advice, but simply to remind people that the world benefits from female insecurity, because it makes them, their bodies and labour, easier to exploit. So eat more, drink more water and wear what makes you comfortable, SPECIFICALLY because you deserve it. There is nothing wrong with your femaleness. Nothing deficient, nothing half-baked, nothing that warrants exclusion or bias. You are enough and are worthy of your love and care, ESPECIALLY your own.

[craving-for-chaos]

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this because I based the whole premise of my current fic on this: What you do think the "Incident" that completely changed Viper was?

The obvious answer would be the assassination attempt, but I think there might be more to it as traumatic as the event was to Viper. Her voice line "I will not lose my home again!" is also interesting in that aspect because I cannot see how that ties to the assassination or, by a long stretch since it was the most significant Omega attack, Venice

I feel like either Riot just purposefully left this vague because they're, well, Riot, or there is a huge chunk of Viper's backstory that they're hiding from us

Ohhhh man. Thank you for giving me a chance to yap about this actually—I have SO many thoughts.

Personally, I don't think that the "Incident™" was her assassination attempt. I dare say that I'm 90% sure it wasn't, and yes, I firmly believe that we're still missing a LARGE portion of her backstory. Okay walk with me on this one, this is going to take a while.

First of all, we have been explicitly told by 2 agents now that Viper used to be in the business of saving people. Vyse's voiceline, "We saved the world once, Sabine. I don't doubt we can do it again," could technically be more science related, so I'll admit that that isn't very indicative of much other than the fact Viper seems quite protective of Earth. Omen's voiceline, however, leaves a lot less room for guess work: "Just think, Sabine. You used to heal with your skill. Funny."

"Heal" is a VERY specific word to use here, and I also think that—aside from the whole Doctor Sabine thing with Cypher—it's the reason that many people, myself included, headcanon that she used to be involved in the medical field. This is also supported by the fact that she's able to somehow help Lucia with her health problems. But back to why this is relevant; as of the Reckoning cinematic, where we see the flashback of Viper's assassination attempt, she is ALREADY VIPER-IFIED.

Okay, so what do I mean by that? Well, her employment at Kingdom alone suggests that for whatever reason, she's already turned her back on "healing" and begun focusing on chemistry. In addition, her demeanor in the Reckoning flashback, while possibly warped since we see this from Omen's POV, is quite...detached, for someone who was just nearly killed. We know that Omen scared/scares her here, as shown by her later behavior when talking about this event, but in the moment, she seems focused. Logical. And, now for the main evidence of her "Viper-ification," she already has her snakebite made, and her mask at the ready. The mask could be excused if she often works with gases, but the literal corrosive acid? Yeah, I have trouble believing she created that for work, Chief Scientific Officer or not.

All of this implies that she's already being plagued by ideas for revenge, which I'm confident stem from the actual incident that made her the way she is. As you said, the assassination attempt was quite traumatic, but not devastating or life-altering in the way that Viper and Fade make the Incident™ seem to have been, especially considering Viper willingly chose to recruit Omen to the VP and treat him kindly after he lost his memories. If he truly was the cause of her current mental state, all of that hatred and anger she seethes would be directed at him—and yet none of it is.

Now with all of that out of the way and onto your actual question, what was the Incident™? Well, I've always personally thought that it MUST have something to do with the deaths of her family and/or a partner.

Let's take a look at these voicelines (bolded words are especially relevant):

"Let's take from them what they took from me—everything!" "I will not lose my home again!" "I'll take everything from them." "You wanted a villain? I gave you a villain!" "I am your monster. You made me this way! Never forget that." "Something wrong, KAY/O? Death's on your conscience? We're not so different after all." "What's it like, Reyna, fighting to keep a loved one alive? No, please. Tell me." (Not as straightforward as the others, but something about her delivery of this line is just...off.)  "Sage, you're the only one who can keep us alive. Don't fail us now like you failed me then." "Never, ever assume you can help me. You can't help me, you can't help them!"

Notice a pattern? Viper is the only agent—and I cannot emphasize that enough, the only agent—who speaks to and about Omega Earth and its agents this personally. She acts like she's has been personally wronged BY THEM, as if they've ruined not only her life, but also her herself. She acts like they specifically are the ones responsible. And the term "everything" is very broad, so it doesn't tell us much other than something extremely important to Viper was taken, but what's more important to someone than their family?

And then there's the recurring theme of deaths/loved ones/"them."

Often times, when Viper says "them," she's referring to the enemy. But that last voiceline is her response to Sage bringing up an offer that she has apparently extended to Viper before, so we can only assume that the "them" here is referring not only to important people to Viper, but also important people who Sage thinks she could help; moreover, people who need help in the first place. Then there's the KAY/O voiceline, which implies that Viper, too, has deaths on her conscience. And the Reyna voiceline, like I mentioned earlier, I personally think is delivered in such a way that makes it seem like Viper DOES know what it's like, and she's being almost sarcastic/bitter when prompting Reyna to tell her about it.

This is why I think that the Incident has to do with her family/loved ones in particular. I think that Viper's literal home could have been destroyed, maybe, but considering she's American, let's be honest, that's quite unlikely. What I do think is more likely, however, is that Viper's home was somehow invaded, and her family—be it parents, siblings, partner, kids, etc.—was injured or killed because of it. Viper's other voiceline about Sage failing her in the past also supports this, because while that could be referring to Omen (considering Sage seems to be involved in Omen's past somehow), I find it much more probable that Sage and Viper crossed paths because of The Incident™. And why would Viper need a healer if she didn't have people who needed healing?

I also believe this is all very intentional on Riot's part, teased but not fully revealed yet. Not only because of all the evidence I've already listed, but because of Viper's playlist on Spotify. There are several songs on it that mention houses/homes being burnt down, and one even highlights family relations in specific. And, fun fact, you know the whole March 20th thing with Viper? Well, a lovely friend of mine actually caught an interesting detail: this year, around the actual date March 20th, Riot briefly added two songs to Viper's official playlist. Those songs were Sick of the Sun by Poppy and My Limb by Hayley Williams, and I'll save you the research—Sick of the Sun literally has a lyric saying "I'm sick of the sun, it burns everyone," and the entire song features a general theme of exhaustion and possible suicidal ideation. My Limb, on the other hand, is about losing a partner specifically, and the grief that comes with it. It also features a lyric saying, "If your part of me is gone now, do I wanna survive?"

Now, those two songs have since been removed, but both the topics and artists suggest that they were intentionally put on that playlist (since Paramore and Poppy are both artists that have songs on it). And, to be quite honest, even I'm not sure what to make of the whole recurring theme of her home literally burning down yet. But even without that, I feel like the rest of the stuff I mentioned is evidence enough of my theory lol.

...That was a lot. But to put it concisely, I'm almost certain The Incident™ involved Viper losing her family directly at the hands of Omega Earth or its agents somehow, that Sage was involved in the aftermath, and that this all happened BEFORE the assassination attempt. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk lmao.

[lipstickreptile]

3, 5, 7, and 13 for Hayffie

3. What about their dynamic appeals to you?

So I actually didn't like Effie or Haymitch the first time I watched the movie years ago. But right around Mockingjay part 2, when the kiss leaked I became obsessed.

I like to call myself a "forbidden" shipper. So I like the whole "we are not supposed to love each other, but we can't help it."

I think I started loving their dynamic because it seems like in every scene they share they want to fuck😂

And later on when I read the books the context of the movie made it very clear that, although they fight a lot they have a very clear respect for each other.

The context of the new book made it even better. Because now it's clear they have a love for each other and the bickering is a result of behaving like an old married couple. I also like to think they are exaggerating the comments a bit so Snow doesn't know how much they actually like each other.

I hope that was a good answer, somewhat.

5. How do you envision them getting together?

I have several canons.

The first one is that they have had a sexual relationship for years. Katniss doesn't pick up on it because....she is Katniss.

So I imagine they started having affair 10 years ish after Sunrise on the reaping. The sexual tension became too much and they finally gave in. As a result they found it necessary to cover their tracks with insults and bickering.

My second is that they realize their love for each other around the 75 hunger games. Not because they didn't feel it before, but because they were not allowed to really act on it. So when Haymitch is reaped a second time it finally becomes clear to them that they can come in a situation where they will never be able to tell each other how they feel.

7. How do they split up housework and chores?

My Haymitch might be an alcoholic but he is not a dead-beat husband! He might suck at cleaning, but he knows how to cook which Effie can't do to save her life.

I imagine their dynamic for making dinner is that she cleans and makes the table. He buys the food and makes it.

Effie loves to clean and decorate. Haymitch is usually helping her out by building furniture and helping her dry the clothes on the clothesline because she can't reach it. Our girl is short without her heels

13. What would be their least favorite thing about each other?

I think it is obvious. Effie hates that Haymitch drinks and Haymitch hates that Effie covers her body in makeup.

Post-war I imagine they both quit these habits.

Effie does however dislike that Haymitch has a short temper. And I imagine Effie has some privileged views that he dislikes, but Haymitch is aware that she is reprogramming and tries to be more educated on issues.

I don't think Effie cares that he curses. Not really. Especially when they are in the bedroom. I also don't think Haymitch dislikes her obsession with fashion, he just doesn't like her hiding behind the clothes. He loves her clothes. Especially the lingerie she orders from the Capitol here and there....🤭

[throatsplit]

tiny psa, kinda?

this is mostly just me stressing on dash, honestly, but here we are anyway! i've been struggling like hell with some picky ass muse and my brain only wants to write things for louis and like, maybe the occasional fletcher every so often, which has led to me stressing out over the drafts i owe for everyone else... and they're in the double digits now. it's entirely a me issue because y'all have been so kind and so patient with me and this blog is (s)low activity. no one's pressed but me @ me probably lmfao, but i don't want to put out anything that's forced because it leeches the inspiration and the drive, so i think, at least for a bit, i'm gonna put them on hold indefinitely. i might get to some if i feel the inspiration, but for now i gotta forget they exist until i get the muse... because i'm just gonna keep hiding from here when i actually want to write.

some of them have been in drafts for a few weeks to a month, so like... i don't think it'll really make that much difference adding a few more weeks onto that, but if you want anything dropped and/or want to start something new with louis in the meantime so we're still actively writing, that's totally cool and i am never going to be upset. just let me know! if you don't say anything, i'll assume it's cool to keep our thread(s) cozy in the drafts until i've got what i need to continue them! i have every intention of replying to all of them when i'm able, but i understand not wanting to wait so long! it's all chill. again, just let me know!

also, ooc has been hit or miss for me lately. i've got the urge to write but zero energy to chat for too long tbh. this is not to say don't message me. i love being poked because i'm a forgetful fuck, i just don't want anyone to be disheartened if i don't reply right away or take days to do so. so... this is, yet again, just a tiny reminder that i love you, i'm never ignoring you, and i'm trying very hard to find the spoons. irl things are rough as fuck lately, i'm in my head way too much, the depression is Hitting, doc visits are coming, and it's just hard to hold an active conversation. i'm down for plotting and i'm hoping to get back to y'all waiting this weekend, but i need to stop holding myself to some imaginary fucking deadline i've created in my head lmao.

if you're not cool with either of these things, that's okay! i get it! just please remember to hardblock me if you're making a permanent exit so i don't make the mistake of following again. softblock me if you're intending to come back to me later! i will never approach you about a block and i will never hold a grudge or harbor hard feelings!

smooches babies!!! 😘💋

[fanficmanic]

I've finally watched 8x16 and 8x17

Just to be safe cause I don't want anyone coming at me with pitchforks and fire - spoiler alert for 8x16 and 8x17

Oh, and probably long post ahead - be warned. I need to let this off my chest and vent.

For 8a, I didn't watch any of the episodes live. I didn't have a source for that at the time, and I always kept an eye on here to sort of give myself a heads-up of what happened in each episode. Then 8b came and I found a website to watch live - which is 12 pm Friday where I live, meaning the episode airs while I'm at work.

Still, I kept watching each episode live, and put in live reactions, and went nuts over predictions and obsessed over possibilities.

Then March 31 happened, and nothing was the same again.

A week later, I went on vacation (still in that vacation as I type this - got 5 more days), where episodes air at 3 am local time. I watched 14 the day after cause I was jet lagged and couldn't wake up for it, then I watched 15 live and cried so hard to the point that I woke up my husband and he freaked out. When I explained what was going on, he just hugged me and asked if I wanted him to stay up with me to vent (this is important for another point I will be making below). I'm kinda glad that all of this was happening while I was busy seeing friends who I haven't seen in years, cause otherwise, I would've driven myself insane during that one week hiatus before 16.

Still, I couldn't find it in me to wake up for 16 and watch live. I wanted to, I really did, but I just couldn't do it. Then I read all the negative feedback and I was like, nope. Not doing this. So I found a clip of the funeral, watched that, and called it a day. This, for someone like me who hasn't gotten so hyper-focused on a tv show in years, is so OOC. I still didn't watch it, even after 17 aired, which I didn't watch live either (not for lack of wanting, but the website I use is blocked where I am currently).

This morning, I woke up to an insane amount of posts here about 17 - and my fandom bestie whose opinion I treasure the most (looking at you @cathcer1984) said that I have to watch it. So, I downloaded 16 & 17, and only was able to watch them now.

Here are my thoughts on 16 (better late than never, I suppose):

No matter what Gerrard does, and no matter how he acts, he'll always be an asshole to me.

Hen and Chim were phenomenal. Their acting was out of this world, and the makeup department deserves awards cause it felt like Chim had aged 10 years.

Buck, who has a chronic case of abandonment issues-itis, was clearly barely holding himself together. He was putting on a strong mask because Bobby told him that they'll need him, and he'd die before disappointing Bobby even through the great beyond.

Eddie only being there for a few minutes pissed me off, but man did he do an excellent job. That single tear that trickled down his face when they saluted Bobby broke me.

Athena's dealing with her grief by working the dead child's case was so in character that I wasn't even upset.

Even though I had watched the funeral scene last week (and cried), I still cried again - and once more, my husband just hugged me and wiped away my tears.

I'm kinda conflicted about Bobby being buried next to his first wife and kids. I mean, it's a beautiful move and very emotional, but that doesn't give people a place to visit him and talk to him. I'm also kinda pissed that Buck, Eddie, Hen, and Chimney didn't get on that plane with Athena, May, and Harry.

Now, like I said, I woke up today to insane posts around here, and I was so confused that at one point I thought I'd be watching Buck and Eddie throwing fists at each other.

However, now that I've watched the episode, I'm starting to wonder if I'm watching the same show as everyone else is - particularly those who are calling Eddie abusive.

Again, the acting was phenomenal, the cases were typical 9-1-1, and the team work at the end kinda showed that the team might still be grieving, but they still work together seamlessly.

The talk that Eddie had with Hen and Karen proved to me that they actually don't know what Bobby told Buck - that they'd need him. I don't think they'd be annoyed by it if they did. On the contrary, I think they'd be working on helping him unburden himself from the heavy load Bobby (unintentionally) put on him.

As for that kitchen scene, I honestly think it was incredible. The acting OS and RG pulled was crazy, and I could feel their grief and anger and helplessness as if it was my own. Again, I don't think Eddie knows what Bobby told Buck - he's still not over the fact that he wasn't there with the rest when the worst happened. And he's lashing lashing out - justifiably so. And this brings me back to what I was saying about my husband earlier.

See, the thing is, we all know that Eddie was brought up to the notion that showing any sign of emotion is weakness. He's repressed and feeling guilty on top of mourning someone who has literally saved his life. In all the past seasons, we've only ever seen him cry when he had that meltdown - and he did that behind a locked door that Buck had to break down. We actively saw him hold back his emotions and become completely stoic: when Shannon died; when he thought Chris was dead during the tsunami (even if it was for a few minutes); when Buck was struck by lightning, during Bobby's funeral, and so on. Yet, we see him try to hold back his tears when he's talking to Buck in the kitchen after pointing that menacing finger at him (can you hear the irony?).

This brings me to what I mentioned about my husband earlier. My husband and I have been together for almost 16 years - married for 14. We've been through so many different things that have caused us immense pain and resulted in one of us lashing out at the other. Our most recent issue is related to my health, which has been going on for about 3 years now, and if you ask anyone who knows me, they'd tell you that I'm ok - managing but ok. They never see my frustration and my pain and my tears, only my husband does, because he's my safe space. I know I can vent and express my frustration in whichever way I find helpful at the time, and that he'll always hold me, help me up, and support me.

This is what's going on with Eddie. He said that he couldn't cry when he received the news because he didn't want to freak out his kid. We saw him with his clenched jaw during the funeral. Still, maybe on an unconscious level, he knew that, standing there in front of Buck in his old kitchen, he's safe to let go of everything that's been eating at him regarding Bobby's death.

On a not-so-different note, Chimney punched Buck and everyone is a-ok with him (even though it's been years since), yet, here we have people calling Eddie abusive and toxic.

Then we've got Buck, who has a chronic case of abandonment issue-itis, and who (even before Bobby died) always wants to help his family and fix things. He's going around rating people's grief so that he can figure out how to help them - it's the only way he know how to do things. But he can see that they don't need him, not the way Bobby said they would, and he ends up in a confessional booth trying to contact Bobby (may I suggest a Ouija board next time?).

But even though Eddie lashed out at Buck, and even though Buck called Eddie a jerk after reading his note, Eddie (who can barely afford anything by being an uber driver) flew his son over to cheer Buck up, and Buck - the man with a heart bigger than the universe - accepted that with the good faith that it is because Eddie gave him what he needs (his family) without him having to ask for it. Because Eddie saw that Buck was trying to help everyone BUT himself, and he stepped up to do that.

Was Buck making everything about him again? Maybe, but then again this is the same person who has had to spend his entire childhood working on getting his parent's attention. Nothing makes sense about grief - like Karen said: you're grieving, fair can go fuck itself (she didn't say that, but she might as well have).

Anyway - if you've gotten this far, I thank you for reading my rambles and venting. I needed to get this off my chest because I've been feeling like I want to scream at my phone all day after reading all the different posts. Like I said in an earlier post - the amount of people I've unfollowed after the last two episodes is a lot.

[wolfertinger]

Not a serious submission but here goes. I'm somewhat new to most of this mainly due to being a former follower of Salems. I decided to catch up and scrolled through a lot of this blog and found myself appaled, I guess? I wasn't familiar with Salems history as puppychan prior to any of this so to say I was shocked is an understatement. Seeing that this guy has clearly never changed from who he once was is overwhelming. When I followed Salem, I really thought the guy was just some horny artist that clearly liked to make what could be considered "fetish" content. Like, just looking at his account, I was sure that was clear to all of his following. I never paid attention to his non art related posts and babbling because I have a life and don't cling to my phone all day and love touching grass so I guess all the red flags went over my head. Seeing this guy try to claim he just likes making art full of representation is laughable. Especially when he hypes his chatacters up as having depth to them. Who are you trying to fool? And then to see his habit of vague posting other artists the way that he does and allowing his girlfriend to attack others for him just makes the situation that much more infuriating. It's like you can tell this guy is so deeply insecure and wounded while trying to act like something he's not. I never once saw his art as a pillar for body positivity. Admittedly, I follow a lot of sexual artists, so why do you think someone like me followed in the first place? This all made me curious to look up other artists who have gotten involved here. I'd never heard of Luluyam before so I decided to give her work a look. While her music isn't really my cup of tea [if Lulu sees this don't worry. I just prefer black metal, this isn't a dig at you!] I found the artwork and art style fascinating. Digging more lead me into finding lore about her characters that's clearly had a lot of love put into it. Characters with personalities, back stories, well developed relationships. It's clearly a labor of love that someone actually cares about and has put a lot of time into. Then you look back at Salems and all you see is "did you know this boy with big boobs is autistic? And trans, don't forget that! Oh, and also autistic, less you forgot already!" Same thing, over and over again. He just wants to watch the numbers on his posts go up. There's no fulfillment in that. Finding out he's also vague posted about other big artists in the past like idolo? An artist that is everything Salem wishes he could be, and more? His consistent habit of jacking other artists design ideas and work for his own? Deep seeded insecurity and creative bankruptcy, that's for sure. I know it seems like I'm taking punches at this guy but knowing I followed him for as long as I did when this is who he really is was a lot. All of these other artists who have distanced themselves from Salem and want nothing to do with him have two things in common: actual talent, and love of the craft. I think he knows that, too, which is why he'll always be bitter and pushing out nothing but lackluster pinups while playing the victim card. Because he knows he will never be able to live up to what they are, and it wounds him further. Salem truly is pathetic.

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[verdancy-hime]

I don't want anyone to save me I want to be able to find all the people who did this to me and make them beg for someone to save them from me and also testify before congress about what they did and how they did it and have a law named after me that says gangstalking and all the other shit is illegal like super illegal I know there's several things like intentional infliction of emotional distress and violation of privacy and so on but like that can only happen if I die.

And there isn't anything big enough to save me.

Like

Maybe if all the people in the world literally disappeared forever and I never had to interact with anyone ever again.

I feel like

There's this video game and there's this alien race in it

And the alien race is evil. They take over and enslave every sentient race or they put their entire planet in this special thing called a slave shield and the slave shield actually allows them to be free but they can never ever leave their planet.

You eventually meet another group of them, and that group just kill every alien species off immediately.

Actually it has this super cool game mechanic where if you don't do certain game actions on a time limit you not only don't know you have but most game systems couldn't even program at the time so you didn't even know was a thing, probably, this group of aliens will slowly move from world to world destroying all your allies and all the slave shield planets you could maybe potentially rescue and leaving unexplainable cosmic debris in their path.

But if you know the right words to say that remind them of their trauma they have to explain the lore of their species.

And it's basically that their first contact was with a brain raping parasite that enslaved their entire species and bred some of them to be warriors and some of them to be scientists and engineers and they were tortured and enslaved for thousands of years in incredibly terrible ways, including killing and torturing one another and their only friends.

And when they finally managed to get free.

They had an argument.

The warriors thought that the solution was to murder all sentient life forms they came across so that this could never happen to them again.

The scientists thought they should offer the choice of enslavement or imprisonment on their homeworld.

That's the level of complex ptsd I have now.

If I could ensure that no sentient life form existed which could by word or look or deed or action or inaction or confusion or gamification or malicious compliance or interference or any other means previously thought of or not thought of intentional or unintentional cause me pain discomfort or obligation to them in any capacity and I also got free food rent electricity and wifi and all that for life but like basically never had to work again or anything

Like I mean no one could even do something which triggered me or annoyed me like if they even thought of doing something that would harm me even a tiny amount like

Maybe if I were a ghost? Like literally a ghost. No need for food or water or shelter and no one can see or perceive or touch me unless I allow it.

But I would always be at war with part of myself. Every time I saw or became aware of a human being my instinct would say

"Kill the interloper."

I would always think life would be so much easier if everyone died.

And I don't know how to live like that.

Because like I mean everyone.

The pizza delivery guy and the person who makes that rose cold cream I like and my favorite authors and my one possibly still living grandparent and my neighbor who I think I just heard get into a physical fight and like little kids and literally every human being or human being shaped thing.

All of them.

So I really just think it would be easier if I died.

That's something someone could easily give me if they wanted.

They sure as fuck decided to torture me into agony and suicidal ideation every day for several years.

I don't really believe it's right or fair that anyone should ask me to fix what everyone broke.

But if I have to fix it and I can't die then I am just going to kill off the entire human race because I tried to invent a mind control thing for fun as a joke and someone literally took over my body and told everyone to torture me to prove some point to rokos basilisk about how it's better than me or whatever stupid thing so Idk why I can't make rokos basilisk fix it or the person who took over my body or the people who probably could find a way to not be mind controlled any more if they wanted to or the government or something.

If I am responsible for fixing all of their messes then I should be allowed to enslave them imprison them or kill them an equal amount.

That's how that works. If you refuse to have free will you're a slave.

I don't want to be a slave but I was sort of hoping that no one would be because I don't want to kill and enslave and imprison the entire human race.

But it's apparently impossible for any of them to be nice to me unless I pretend that I used Wikipedia to invent an unbeatable mind control formula that forces them to do my bidding and then even then if I make one false move they sicc some weird possession thing on me? Like? People don't expect me to believe I'm some kind of like magic genius who invented a totally unknown way to mind control people irl based on shit I saw on Wikipedia when I was feeling paranoid and depressed and no one else has mind control powers or whatever. That's some kind of kayfabe. They just don't want to help me because they enjoy hurting me.

So they actually are technically interlopers because I don't seek people out they keep coming to me. Even staying inside all the time makes people show up at my house.

If I was a magic genius or something I probably would have like... a way to make them turn into a bag of money or a spell book or something when they do that. Or open their mouth and only large gemstones come out.

I think that if I were actually invisible in the way I need it would be really hard to keep my apartment and get food and stuff.

And I think killing the entire human race would take a really long time. I don't think you could do it in one lifetime. And if you don't set it up to get all of them at once, they breed like rabbits.

But I could probably just stop having a corporeal form. That's easy. Scary. Harder than it looks, but easier than all the other options.

it's nice to see being suicidal described as an urgent need for change because every time i'm like "well it's not that i want to die, really, it's that i want to be miraculously rescued and it's not going to happen, no one is coming to save me, i have to save me, and frankly that sounds like a lot of work and just thinking about it makes me want to be dead" i feel like i'm faking it. like. i'm not gonna do anything about it, really, so i'm not really suicidal. i just think that if a big anvil fell from the sky and cracked my head i'd have much fewer problems at least once a day. as a treat. a fun little daydream. let's be badddd

[positivelyqueer]

Because I agonised for an hour or more this morning on how i would get groceries before 'allowing' myself to order them to be delivered:

You don't have to push yourself to your absolute limit constantly as a disabled person to prove you are worthy of care and support and recovery/improvement/symptom management. (I know this is a broad spectrum that varies for each person).

Abled people do strictly unnecessary things to make their lives easier all the time. You're allowed to do that too.

[necrotic-nephilim]

@sasheneskywalker i love when you enable me to ramble about things because oh my god do i have thoughts.

so recently, i made a post discussing the phenomena of DC x DP and DC x MLB crossovers and why they exist and part of that post was discussing how largely speaking, at least half, if not more of the Batfamily fandom doesn't read the comics. if they interact with canon DC material, it's adaptations that are their own sequestered universes and oftentimes not remotely comic accurate or seeking to be. the most obvious example is the Young Justice cartoon. i'm adding a cut to this post because it just got so long i'm so sorry.

a lot of times, when people are discussing the "why" of this oversaturation of fanon-only fandom, they blame Wayne Family Adventures. and i think, to a point, i agree WFA is responsible for a boom in this fandom. but as someone who's been in the fandom long before we had WFA, to me it's the other way around. WFA was DC's way of meeting the demand for this easy-to-get-into, easy-to-consume content about the Batfamily that predicates itself on the comics just enough to be vaguely the same characters, but has a more sitcom, slice-of-life sort of vibe so DC could profit off of this section of the fanbase that otherwise wasn't consuming its primary material. and well, it's definitely worked. not only that, but i have a weird theory that the decline in the MCU also led to the rise in the Batfamily fandom. when you consider the fan content that made the MCU popular within fandom, it's that 2012 "they all live in Avengers Tower and Thor is eating poptarts and Clint is in the vents and there are movie nights every Friday" sort of vibe. those were the fics that were a hallmark of the fandom. and as the MCU has strayed from well... quality content in general, but specifically well-thought-out crossover content where characters can have their own arcs but also exist in a wider story where they clearly care about each other, that fandom was sort of homeless. so where do you go, if you like a superhero found family where you can have villains for angst but also stick them all in one big family-like home for silly crack and have a plethora of options for gay ships? well. you go to the Batfamily. if you write a crack/fluff Batfamily genfic with silly vibes and low stakes instead of say, a fic about a very specific comic issue even if it's a popular comic, you're *going* to get more traction for the former. because the fanbase largely just isn't reading the comics.

and i feel... complicated about this. because on one hand, Don't Like Don't Read has been a tenet of my fandom experience. i'm very pro-fandom and that includes fandom content i don't like. and to an extent, i do think this sort of should apply to Batfamily fanon. i enjoy having my moments with other comic purists, giggling over exceptionally painful OOC headcanons or even facepalming in pain over some content but it is on me to not interact with that content. you don't make fandom a better place by being hostile to fans who engage with canon in ways you don't approve of. and frankly? we as comic readers are not going to get non-comic fans to read the comics by being asshats to them. no one is going to want to pick up any comic if we get a superiority complex about it. and also, i feel like we're all lying to ourselves a little bit insisting comics are so, so easy to get into. they're not. we can just all agree, they're really not. i've been single-handedly helping my sister get into comics, specifically Wonder Woman and no matter how simple i make it, i watch her get frustrated trying to understand what pre-Crisis and post-Crisis and New-52 and Flashpoint and all these things mean and what a retcon vs a reboot is and what a Crisis Event is and what the hell Diana's current backstory even *is*. sure, you can give someone a beginner list of comics to start with and slowly dip their toes in the water but sooner or later, *something* is going to confuse them. comics as a medium straight up aren't going to be everyone's cup of tea. and if someone *just* wants to read silly fluffy fanfiction about the Batfamily, i can't entirely begrudge them for not wanting to take the hours and hours out of their day to understand this medium. it's not an accessible medium to get into. "read this and this, but this run is out of print and this run wasn't collected in trades at all but also make sure you read that event in order and this is a good comic but the backstory in it is retconned and you *have* to read this it's so important but it's also really bad because the author kind of sucks" sounds. ridiculous for someone who like. just wants to read some stuff about Nightwing. sometimes, we all make reading comics sort of sound like a chore, not a hobby.

so my point is, i do extend some grace to Batfamily fanon for existing. i think my biggest gripe is, as i said in my other post, misuse of tags (if you're not creating content about comics, maybe you don't need the comics fandom tag on Ao3, just the all media types umbrella tag) and my far bigger gripe: when panels are taken out of context to support fanon only headcanons. if i could impart *anything* onto the Batfamily fandom as a comic fan it'd be this: if you haven't *read* the comic, don't spread the panel. if you don't even know what comic it's *from*, don't spread the panel. it's fine to use comic panels to discuss your headcanons, but so often i see someone spreading a comic panel from a comic they haven't read, and when asked where it's from, they can't source it. a silly example that comes to mind is a post going around, taking a panel where Dick, in his internal monologue goes "here comes the sun. do do do do." and the post is claiming it's from him getting buried alive. when that panel comes from Nightwing (1996) #140, and he gets buried alive in Nightwing (1996) #127, two completely different moments frankensteined together. if you're going to not read the comics, that's completely fine, but unless you're sure of the source and the context, panels shouldn't be spread around. i'm sick of this specifically happening to Red Robin (2009), with ppl claiming Tim has totally killed people because he blew up some of Ra's' bases, when those panels within context, make it clear he gave everyone time to escape. and in a later arc in that very comic, Tim grapples with the idea of murdering Captain Boomerang, and *specifically chooses not to*, because he doesn't agree with murder, even against the person who has hurt him the most. if you'd like to write fanfiction where Tim is pro-murder and has done some sketch things, i'm totally on board and would probably like to read it. but there's no need to pretend it's canon from a few panels you saw out of context.

beyond that, i think it's not *entirely* correct to say that fanon is harmless. whenever i see very WFA-positive posts, they often default to the argument that WFA is fun and silly, and comic fans are killjoys for not liking it. which. i think is complicated because the issue is, WFA and fanon don't exist in a vacuum. if you like WFA power to you, i don't think it's the worst thing ever, but i do think it's degrading to these characters because honestly? they feel incompetent in the webtoon. it's one thing if WFA was solely a slice-of-life sort of deal, just having silly episodes where Bruce is taking on a PTA mom or they're all fighting for the last cookie. but when WFA attempts to take on more serious plots with these characters, it *fundamentally* falls flat in understanding them. i get it, Bruce comforting Jason having a panic attack because a noise reminded him of the crowbar felt cute in a microcosm, but i'm so serious when i say that storyline destroyed how like. half of this fandom understands Jason Todd's relationship to his trauma. it doesn't understand how he reacts when he's triggered, what coping mechanisms he seeks out, and how he would handle Bruce comforting him. even if i can believe for a brief moment Jason *would* be triggered by something like that, him running and trying to hide and then getting a hug from Bruce to make it okay is just. painful. WFA needs everything to be wrapped up in a nice, neat little bow. so even when it starts to tackle interesting concepts, it makes them fall flat with its need to be soft, low stakes, hurt/comfort. there was a two-parter episode that dealt with the complicated mutual hatred/jealousy between Tim and Damian that *almost* really interested me because for once, it felt like the webtoon wanted to explore canon messy dynamics. but of course, it had to be fixed with one conversation and a hug. you don't mend the *years* of issues these characters have like that. WFA isn't in character because these characters are hyperbole cartoonified versions of themselves to fit within the medium and be a cute happy family.

because that right there, is the crux of it. the Batfamily fanon seeks to simplify the Batfamily and force them into a nuclear family. there are so many fantastic posts on here discussing how the nuclear family-ification of the Batfam is eroding decades worth of complex histories so i won't go too far into that. but what i will say is that there's this need, in the Batfamily fandom, for the Batfamily to exist as a unit. they are a *family*. (honestly i think calling it the Batfamily is a misnomer and has been for years but we're in too deep now.) they exist to each other first, and any teams or friends they have come secondary to this family unit. you can *specifically* see this demonstrated in what headcanons are becoming popular these days. i have an entire lengthy meta in my drafts about how i *loathe* the "the Batfamily meets the Justice League" genre of fanfic because it makes no *sense*. in order to have this genre of fic exist, you must operate under the assumption that no one in the League, or adjacent to the League, knows the Batfamily exists and are thus utterly shocked to discover Batman has kids. and to make *that* work, you have to strip *every single Batfamily member* of such important dynamics and friendships so you can lock them all in Gotham for their whole lives. Dick can't have the Titans, Tim can't have Young Justice, Duke & Cass can't have the Outsiders, Jason can't have the Outlaws, Damian can't have the Supersons, Babs can't have the Birds of Prey, and so on. because if they had these relationships, they would be known to the League. the Batfamily fandom doesn't care about this, it's just "silly fanfiction", it's not trying to be serious. but how can you say you like Dick Grayson as a character if you don't understand the Titans *are* his family? at some points of his life, moreso than the Batfamily even is. it is constantly repeated to us in most comics with Dick how much the Titans mean to him. he *needs* them to be who he is. the same extends to every other Batfamily member, most of which have been full League members at this point. but in fanon, that doesn't matter. the Batfamily are a sequestered unit first, and all of those side relationships are secondary and easy to toss away, if it makes your fanfic work better.

and because they have to be a unit first, you have these forced relationships that dump years of actual canon material for the sake of making them get along. the Batfamily fandom has its favorites and well. it's no secret it's usually the boys. Jason and Tim by *far* stand out as fandom faves so, their dynamic is a heavily explored one. it does matter that in canon they don't tend to get along and especially don't see each other as family. what matters is that you can push dynamics onto them. and so fanon gets all twisted up about which Robin Tim actually idolized as a kid (Dick) and what member of the Batfamily is pro-murder but still an older sibling figure to him and looks out for him (Helena, or if you want the dynamic of once tried to harm Tim but they've reconciled, Jean-Paul) in favor of who's the most popular. Dick, Jason, Tim, and Damian are always going to be the standouts for popularity, but it's specifically Jason and Tim who are getting fanonized the most. and that's because really, we don't have much canon content of Tim that *isn't* the comics. for Dick you've got Young Justice (tv), for Damian you've got the DCAMU, for Jason you've sort of got the Under The Red Hood movie, but Tim sort of lingers in this limbo. (yes, he's in Young Justce (tv) and Titans (live action) but in neither is he the main character nor given much depth) so, he gets a *lot* projected onto him and has become fanonized. and even with Jason's animated movies, you don't see him interact with Tim, so people build it from the ground up how they want to see it, disregarding of canon comics. i think it's what makes him so popular in the first place- he's malleable into whatever you want or need him to be.

and of course, the fanon ignores other characters in the Batfamily it doesn't know about. i feel like you could create a tier list of Batfamily characters by their popularity, going from the fandom main characters: Tim, Jason, Bruce, Alfred, Dick, Damian. to the underrated: Steph, Duke, Babs, Cass. to the forgotten about unless they're convenient for a story: Kate, the Foxes, Helena Wayne, Carrie, Selina, Harper Row, Maps, Minhkhoa Khan. to the absolutely unknown: Helena Bertinelli, Jean-Paul Valley, Onyx Adams, the Clovers, Julia Pennyworth. it's not lost on me that the ignored characters tend to be women and people of color. which is both a canon and fanon problem, DC will continue adding interesting characters to the Batfamily, play with them for a few years, then drop them to default to the "Batboys" again. and it's a vicious cycle of the fandom only caring about the "Batboys", and thus people entering the fandom via fanon osmosis won't have content about the other characters, therefore, they won't be interested in those characters enough to create it, and it's just this ouroboros consuming itself, no matter how much canon content we have of these other characters. and it's ridiculous just how large the Batfamily is becoming because of this, which is why i'm a pre-Flashpoint fan, because then the Batfamily was contained enough to actually feel like a family with every character having nuances relationships with each other, but i digress because those thoughts could be their own post.

and the thing about fanon is it doesn't exist in a vacuum. DC has started turning the comics to accommodate for what fans are asking for, because fans will beg and beg for content they're not going to consume. Tim Drake: Robin had Tim as a coffee drinker because that's the fanon accepted headcanon. and the resolution of the recent Gotham War arc was for Bruce to buy this new manor for everyone to move in and call him. nevermind that most of these characters have their own homes and have zero reason to be moving in with Bruce. Tim had his marina in Tim Drake: Robin, Dick has Bludhaven, Cass and Steph have their little side of town in Batgirls (2022), and so on. these characters are being forced together as a unit, as one big happy family living together, to appease what non-comic fans want and it's damaging comic relationships. Robin: Knight Terrors saw Jason and Tim team up and working together, which i've seen varying opinions on but i personally despised. their interactions made zero sense for any of their canon history, but it appeases them being this close sibling relationship that fanon acts like they are. also the fears they faced in their respective knight terrors didn't make sense for either character and *only* worked as a moment of bringing them together so they could reassure each other and have this weird dreamscape bonding moment. the canon is bending itself to the will of fanon rather than building on the pre-existing complex relationships. Tim barely even gets along with his most important team in Dark Crisis: Young Justice because it seems the only important relationships the Batfamily can have is with each other. and when we do see them outside of the Batfamily, it only seems to be to relive the glory days like with World's Finest: Teen Titans, instead of developing them as they currently exist. this isn't recent in the comics, it feels like you can trace it back to the New-52, but it does feel a *lot* worse over the recent years. WFA is fine when it exists in its own bubble, but the simple truth is, DC content never exists on its own. the adaptations will reflect back onto the comics. (the damage the Young Justice cartoon has done to some characters should honestly be studied) and so it does frustrate me a bit when fanon-only or adaptation-only fans act like we're being nothing but killjoys for being frustrated with this. since they don't read the comics, they don't see how the comics are suffering as a result of this.

people argue about what's out of character for the comics they don't even read. i'm sorry, but "bad dad Bruce" is consistently canon. that man is just kind of shitty. when you take someone who has the drive he has, who has this need for the Mission first, who needs a teenager in spandex next to him to keep him off the ledge, that guy is sort of going to be a shitty father figure. he just is. not on purpose or with malice, but when you compare him to any other dad in a big DC family, he sure takes the cake. it's why characters like Oliver Queen tend to *really* fucking hate Bruce for how he treats his kids. Bruce loves fiercely, but he doesn't do well with putting that love first. and his love is a controlling one, he is very particular about controlling how others in the Batfamily are "allowed" to operate. it's what drives the wedge between him and Dick, it's why Steph is never a true daughter to him. (besides the reason of her needing to be a love interest to Tim first, anyway-) i've never understood the massive outcry of people reacting to Bruce kinda being shitty in comics they're not reading. there are some moments that get ridiculously OOC with how cartoonishly evil he is (the whole Gotham War arc and that... complicated mess with Jason) but largely if you want sitcom loving nuclear father Bruce, you have to accept that is a fanon thing, not a canon one. the Batfamily being a nuclear family in *general* is fanon. most of the "Batkids" don't actually see Bruce in a particularly fatherly light and begging for moments where he calls them his kids or they call him dad outside of incredibly specific circumstances is just OOC.

it's getting harder and harder to exist peacefully in this fandom it feels like, if you don't comply to the standard fanon has set. i'm happy people are having fun with their blorbos, even if in ways i dislike, but that "harmless fandom fun" does ripple it's way back to canon, eventually. so i end up pretty tangled with my feelings because are fans at fault for DC making these poor decisions? probably not, but it certainly feels like an unfortunate cause-and-effect situation whether at the end of the day, nobody is happy. and of course, i know some fanon-only fans are striving to be more canon accurate and care about canon dynamics more than others, but for them it's always going to be an uphill battle with the above-mentioned out-of-context panels thrown around and ever-pervasive fanon overtaking anything that's truly seeking to be canon compliant. so really, it sometimes feels like we're all losing.

[danadiadea]

DE's don't meet at least half of the criteria of fashism, including one of the most basic ones – ultranationalism. They meet even fewer Umbertho Eco's fashism criteria. What would they "potentially become" has nothing to do with Snape joining them at some point between 1978 and 1980.

Literally every single thing you said about Snape is bullshit, so I assume you didn't read the books. Lily never rejected his feelings because he never confessed them. He also ACCEPTED her cutting off their FRIENDSHIP. He called her a slur when he was choked and sexually assaulted, which is bad, but you not mentioning that teensy little detail is a bit intellectually dishonest. The scene where he cries in Potter's cottage is movies only and directly contradicts the books, but even if it was canon, crying over your dead ex-friend's body is not a crime, it's a natural emotional reaction. Snape was never obsessed with Lily, and I am sorry you can't understand why someone wouldn't wake up one day and randomly decide that people who accepted and supported them are bad, when those who abused and mocked and tried to kill them are good. You can't have empathy for Snape and see things from his perspective? Fine. It kinda sucks, because without understanding why young people in vulnerable positions join terrorist cults, we wouldn't be able to prevent them from doing that, but like.... do whatever you want. I wasn't talking to you. I wasn't even talking about Snape becoming a DE. I was pointing out that OP's claim that everyone has to share their headcanons if they are popular enough is ridiculous.

Europeans being so USA centric is frankly sad. I didn't even click you meant that Musk claims he's autistic, because I didn't remember that, that's how little I care. I headcanon Snape as autistic because he was largely written from jkr's autistic teacher, fits in basically every single one DSM-5 ASD criteria, and because I am autistic myself, you moron. I also said at least trice explicitly that other people DON'T HAVE TO interpret Snape through an autistic lense. It was literally brought up to show that OP trying to force their headcanons on everyone doesn't make sence.

Not you trying to cancel someone over something that's only considered problematic within your headcanon, a headcanon that's only widely accepted within your fandom lol. Mary can be white, black, or blue. stop acting like the morality police

not me wanting to cancel someone over saying a widely-hced-as-black character would be enslaved by a white woman 🤣🤣 and that "someone" was white 😂😂 omg silly me !! i forgot racism is cute 🤣🤣