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go-diane-winchester · 6 years ago

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My debate with a destiel shipper

@artificial-strawberry Thank you for your response, and not just cussing me out. It is nice to know what is going on in your head. First of all, neither I nor any of the other disgruntled fans I have encountered have any issues with ships. We have issues with militant destiel fans behaving in a way that we think might endanger Jensen and Jared. I have receipts on that.

People don't hate them for nothing. And I have never seen destiel shippers do posts about bad bullying and death threats online behavior towards Jensen. The good ones don't police their sides. They quickly say ''we are not all like that''. So please understand where my irritation is coming from. Mine and everyone else's.

Your response to ''Jensen can make decisions, including stopping destiel from becoming canon''.

You’re entitled to your own opinion. You don’t have to ship destiel. And you’re right, Jensen and the others do probably have a lot of power on the show, and maybe I should have phrased that more clearly: since I’ve seen some people blaming Jensen/Misha for not advocating for destiel bc ”they would be able to make it happen”, I wanted to point out that 1. they probably DON’T want to make it happen and 2. even IF they did, this is such a big decision that the writers/producers most likely wouldn’t listen to them if they were completely against it. Were the roles reversed, however, and the writers wanted to make destiel happen and the actors didn’t, then yes, Jensen and Misha probably could tell them not to do it if they didn’t want it to happen.

My response

Actually only Jensen, Jared and Bob Singer [unfortunately] are allowed to make decisions regarding the script. Misha is not a lead and no longer No 3 on the call sheet. He is a guest star [not a series regular] whose time on SPN has only increased because the season has been shortened. Contractually, he is still doing the same amount of work, but it just appears that he is making more appearances. This, according to the SPN spokesperson. He has no clout in the decision making process. This is what I find baffling about you, don't speak about Jensen and Misha equally when it comes to decision making. Misha has no power. Jensen has power. Speak about them individually. So yeah, Jensen can make changes. Misha, and he had said this so many times, has no power to make changes. Not only has he worked in fewer seasons. He has worked in less episodes.

Misha, according to another destiel fan, wants destiel to be canon. You are saying he doesn't. Meanwhile, Jensen gets an arson threat for telling the truth too many times. So no, this is not a live and let live situation. There is no destiel. It is a fanon ship, not a canon ship. And only Misha gave his fans the impression that it could be canon.

Your responses to ''Misha queer baited the shippers with his itch tweet and he consistently queer baits''.

What you said about Misha, I can’t necessarily verify. I haven’t seen all the things you talked about, but it is true that he has ”joked” about destiel in the past. I, too, at first was annoyed by it. You know, don’t talk about it so much if it’s never going to happen. But then I thought about it. And I realized that Misha is part of that ship. We are not. We can distance ourselves, he can not. He gets stories written about himself giving blowjobs to one of his best friends. We do not. So the fact that he jokes about the ship might be something he does in order to make fun of the thing that makes him uncomfortable. And I understand that.

You cant verify whether Misha sent out the tweet? But the tweet is what the hellers are complaining about. It is one of many instances that he has done that. Misha is only part of SPN. He is NOT part of a ship. He didn't sign a contract with destiel. And yes, he can totally distance himself from it. Who is holding a gun to his head. All he has to do is stop talking about it. J2 have been aware of wincest for 14 years. They have only mentioned it a handful of times, but only when they are asked about it, and yet they are aware of the stories and the fan art. They use the art to prank each other. But they don't discuss wincest with fans, because that is the intelligent thing to do. They don't want to give fans ideas. How come they managed to distance themselves. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, is ''compelling'' Misha to make everything about destiel and even Cockles, which he had no business speaking about either, because Cockles is a tinhat pairing. He is only one half of a pairing. And if the other half, Jensen speaks against destiel, Misha calls him a motherf*cker. I have receipts of that. Why would he do that? No one is forcing Misha. He is doing it for his own amusement. Who forced him to make the TSA movie. He is not making fun of destiel. He is pushing destiel, even though he is aware that people think he is queer baiting. He spoke about queer baiting. Don't you watch his panels? He calls the people who criticize him ''haters''.

Your response to Misha criticized SPN for being misogynistic in 2013.

I can’t really respond to this, since I haven’t seen it, so I can’t comment on it. I do want to ask though: how do you know he wasn’t reprimanded for that?

There were news reports written about this. Just google ''Misha Collins accuses Supernatural of being gratuitously misogynistic''. You will find the articles. It won't take you two minutes. What was the result of that? Misha fans, at his behest, starting rallying together to attack SPN for misogyny and demanded a spinoff. Their campaigning lasted three years. That spinoff is Wayward Daughters. It failed due to bad ratings because only Misha's fans truly wanted it. Everyone else didn't care. So the spinoff didn't have an audience. So Misha, and his big mouth, costed SPN time, money and resources but they can't get rid of him, because of Bob Singer, his wife Eugenie and her writing partner, Buckner. That is probably why older SPN writers like Sera Gamble, Ben Edlund and Jeremy Carver just left. They got fed up of dealing with Misha's antics and constantly shoehorning Cas into a script and they know it. Bob keeps Misha and Cas on board.

Your response to ''The show is not queer baiting you with metaphors, purples shirts and parallels etc''

The queerbaiting issue is difficult, I’ll say that. All I can really comment on is that I believe the show queerbaits - whether they do it on purpose or not is another thing. You’re allowed to believe that the show doesn’t and that’s cool. You’re also allowed to believe the show is perfect and has no flaws - also cool. I don’t. And that’s that. Agree to disagree.

Oh no honey. That is not how it works. Queer baiting should not be based on your opinions and beliefs. You are tarnishing a show's name and yet you can't provide examples of how they are queer baiting you? No, that is a cop out of a response if I ever heard one. Recently, MM spoke about Supernatural's ''notorious'' queer baiting. Not because they have seen queer baiting, but because of Destiel shipper's social media trends. The destiel shippers actually trended the topic of Jensen being a homophobe and MM picked up of that. All because he is not giving in to Destiel. That is sexual harassment. They are destroying his reputation because he is refusing something sexual that they want. Go look up the word social rape. That is what is happening here. I am shaking my head because you based a large part of your argument on queer baiting and yet you cant speak about it. I cant believe you just said ''agree to disagree''.

Your last response

And finally: I get it. You’re protective of the boys. You love them and you love the show. I don’t want to attack you and I don’t want to even try and convince you to agree with me. You’re you and I’m me and we don’t think alike and that’s fine. All I want to say is that in the future, please reconsider before calling someone names or urging people to block them. I’m a big girl; I can handle it. But there are so many little kids and young teens on this site who are vulnerable and might not be able to just brush it off.

You hate name calling. Well, then you must despise the hellers. They ship shame. They tell the wincest fans to kill themselves. They tell Jared, a suicidal man, to kill himself. And they threatened Jensen's life multiple times. I have receipts on my blog. They even threatened to kidnap Jared and his children. And they base their actions on headcanons. That is why I call out headcanons. I have likeminded people following my blog. One of them directed me to your mistagged post. I didn't find you myself. They are fed up of destiel shippers mistagging their posts. And they use my posts, calling out these shippers, to block because filtering tags doesn't work. Why do you think Destiel is called DeanCas, CasDean, DeanxCastiel and various other derivatives? So that a non-shipper would be unable to block them. They indoctrinate people. By the way, ''little kids'' are not supposed to be on Tumblr. Its a violation if they are. You should know that. And teens are not babies. Just a few days back, I reported a teen destiel shipper for threatening to kill SPN creators because they are not making destiel canon. Tumblr, according to one of my readers, responded. So no, if you misbehave on Tumblr, you should be called out for it. Tag your post properly. Because all that plus the online threats and excusing Misha's horrendous behavior is making your side intolerable. People aren't getting angry for nothing. People who were neutral on the subject,now hate it because of the tagging. They don't even know about the threats. Destiel, like a fly in their face, all the time, bothers them.

All in all, it was nice engaging with destiel shipper for a change, because they usually don't engage in discourse. They just tell me to eff off. So thank you for that. I wish I heard more about the queer baiting, because another shipper I am currently talking to also is shirking that part about the discussion. Which I find very quizzical.

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astrxlis-archive · 3 years ago

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Hello again, Fox!! 😍 I have answered the quizzes you linked. I also included some of my thoughts :)

my results for the quizzes you linked!:

1. which (unhealthy) coping mechanism are you [link] - we basically have the same result but i'm still linking it

2. how do you love [link]

- my only comment for this is: i dont know if i get it or not 🤣 if you have an idea, please do tell me how you understood it. no but most of the time, some uquiz results would be poetic but also confusing like it's just there to make you like the standing person emoji xD HOWEVER! the "...smallest of gazes..." called me out because. because yeah 😭 i. i like mutual pining. hahaha. haha.

3. which folklore song are you? [link]

- this. this is so true for me. i like sunrises. i just dont know about the tarot thingy bc it's like astrology to me- very confusing and there's reversed card stuff with new meanings like can someone teach me this so i could have a new fixation even if i dont believe in it xD

4. what kind of book ending would i write for you? [link]

- my thoughts on your result: i could... feel the sense of an dystopian setting like nier's. there's so much that you've gone through, so much that you have lost which made you almost lost yourself in the process. then there's this last last one thing you will lose in the story. something you might be probably holding on for too long, or holding on you for too long. the road was rough, and you're tired. the suffocation vanished the moment "this" certain thing left you in peace. you never felt joy from losing something after so many years. you're alone, but you've find your peace and breathable freedom.

- about my results this time: man. it was funny at first because i cant swim but around the latter half silence surrounded me and i teared up a bit. because i always feel like im already spoiling my self with validation from others to "heal" my wounds but those words feel so nice to read. it feels like an ointment. 👌

5. where does your fear reside in your body? [link]

- Fox, please let me give you a hug :<

— 🍰.

helloooo 🍰❣️

sorry this took so long, my finals are approaching and i got hit by a really bad depressive episode 🫠 anyway!

about result 1: man🧍imo it takes a lot of courage to feel the big scary emotions. i shut them down mostly bc i don't have time for them, which is not very healthy 😂 do you think the result is accurate for you?

about result 2: dude this result is beautiful???? hello???? i think it's a way to say you're also more of an action instead of words type of person, and that your actions are also more "intense", but in a good way. that's my understanding of it, so feel free to disagree 😂 it's a very poetic result indeed. also, mutual pining huh? interesting.......

about result 3: it fits you very well!!! i can't help you with the tarot thing bc i don't really believe in it but at the same time it feels... off? to me 😅 idk how to explain it. but good luck with learning it if you get the chance to!!

about result 4: dude, i both love and hate how spot on you are in your interpretation of my result. it's kind of what i'm going through right now? i havent found the thing causing this whole mess yet, but like 🧍,,,,, about your result, though. first of all, i'm really glad you got the happy ending!!!!! it made me smile when i read the title bc it absolutely fits you!! and like you, i read it and teared up. i hope you know it's ok to be tired of giving, and its ok to be "selfish" and want things for yourself (even if its not really being selfish, but being human). its also ok to want external validation. we crave it bc we want to know we're doing well. it's normal. especially after being hurt. healing is a b tch, and it's hard, and having someone to cheer you on is so important 🥺 its ok to stop pulling people to the shore and just let yourself be pulled to it as well, whether by someone else or by the currents. you deserve a happy ending, dear 🥰🥰 and a happy middle as well!!

about result 5: you,,, got such a normal fear response?? i'm happy for you but at the same time i'm jealous? 😂 do those things fascinate you? or do they just terrify you? 👀

as for your request:

sorry for how long it took for this reply, expect more to come soon ❣️

see you soon!!!

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ilygsd · 6 years ago

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someone fuck me in the asshole honestly im shocked how can this dude NOT UNDERSTAND??? hes really good at cognitive empathy, he has a nice moral compass he follows ”be kind, be nice” but he cant fucking FEEL what hes doing

and like....... thats important to me??? and apaprebtly NO ONE has ever criticized him for it or whatever? like his ”intentions”?? ofc he cant help he doesnt feel emotional empathy but he literally cant spot the DIFFERENCE!!! he’s like ”as long as im kind and a nice human being” like bitch NOO!!!! i like you!!! you ”like” me, but you like me bc u think im interesting and you think we can learn from each other. which also is important OF COURSE!! but BITCH I LIKE YOU BC I FEEL FOR YOU THATS DIFFERENT

we’ve known each other for like 3 weeks, met 5 times and we’ve already had 3 major fights??? mainly over text/phone but still.... he’s so fycking mean? he really tries to manipulate me that ugly fucking whore!!! he guilt trips me all the fuxking time i cant say anything he’ll explode and i need to apologize or some shit otherwisw it would never end. and i know what the fuck he’s doing because i used to be the exact same. honestly we are similar in many aspecrs EXCEPT for the ”feel”-part. i feel TOO MUCH. and the difference is that im not manipulating him.... because i KNOW i cant. i know he’d see right through me, there’s no POINT

like i used to be like that too, maybe i still am. i ALWAYS win fights, no mercy. its like i turn off my empathy during fights but AT LEAST i feel AFTERWARDS!!! he doesnt. he realize he did wrong bc of his ”morality”. bitch i could CRY, because he literally scolded me over phone when i was on the bus and there was NOTHING i could do to stop him. i tried to talk to him but he only continues cus i fkn refuse to oBEY HIS ORDERS??? but i cant hang up either cus then he’d never talk to me again and i’d feel like shit......

he’s pretty calm irl, ive never seen him angry irl and i hope i never will holy SHIT!!! he’s so good at hurting, like he turns everything youve ever said to him against you. he’s so fucking good at it cus he’s so god damn good at reading people. thats what makes him so charming. i DONT UNDERSTAND how can his precious girlfriends not have CARED??? apparently i’m the first to criticize him and one of the few to trigger him and im like..... bruh how?? i literally dont say anything and you fucking explode?? are your family and friends blind??? are you doing this to me because you THINK the manipulation will work??

also...... he sees it as something positive that sick bastard. hes like ”well i think this could be good” and im like ”uhhhh bitch it is I who get scolded???” and hems like ”but i feel and too :((” he’s such a fkn dumbass. this is his politics too. he believes in reverse racism and is probably sexist too smhhh. i was like ”are u dumb, u hit me in the face and tell me its bad for you too bc u feel vad abt hitting me??”

i am impressed by how he chose to ve ”kind” or whatever instead of psycho even though i still think he’s selfish and does it for his own gain aka he LOVES to learn things, experience things. he’s very ambitious, energetic and curious. but he doesnt understand. he’s like ”well im kind to you thats all that matters?”

the thing is, he’s not even kind??? he basically forced me to taste his disgusting vanilla coffee OTHERWISE he would take the blanket away??? he sees it as teasing and it kind of is yeah..... if i didnt know that his 1000% serious?? he honestly think its a ducking compromose?? im lile ”uhh a improvisera would be for me to taste a little coffee and then you to give me another blanket or AT LEAST stop nagging”

and when i finally tasted the ugly coffee he wanted to know if i thought it was good and i said ”yeah its ok” bc im not a liar, it was better than expected. and hes like ”thats all i wanted to hear” I KNOW BITCH, YOURE NOT THAT FUCKING SLICK ITS PRETTY FKN OBVIOUS

also he always adds rules??? everythings always on his conditions? also he kinda thinks i should be thankful for him not being an asshole??? or maybe its that i actually VRITICIZE his intentions. yeah i think that brothers him. i think he thinks it entertaining because he doesnt care when he get angry. i didnt use to either. i could just forget te fight and move on, it wasnt important to me. but fuck now when i KNOW what its like......

im like ”ur threatening me to drink coffee” and hes like ”arent u happy i put extra much vanilla for you?? i usually drink much stronger but i didnt for u? arent u happy i gave u the blanket? i actually was goong to put it on the couch and leave u cold but i didnt?” BUT HE ONLY PUT ECTRA VANILLA SO I WPULD TELL HIM IT TASTES GOOD SO HIS EGO CAN BE BOOSTED

calso he kinda forced me to drink alohol?? i was like ”im feeling like shit if i throw up its tour fault and you will have to clean up” and he’s like ”no you’ll have to clean up” BITCH I SONT EVEN WANT TO DRINK YOURE PUSHING ME

soooo many red flags fuck i really SHOULD leave now when i can and now when im not too emotionally invested. but oMG IM SO CURIOUS!!! we’re so similar yet so different!!! we can relate to each other in some ways the bad thing is that since he actually cant FEEL empathy, he doesnt BELEIVE me even when i tell him the truth. im not sad bc i want to manipulate him. im not even sad that his words are huetful even though they are, because i know he’s fucking weong. im sad because he treats me lile this. im sad because i like HIM!!! i genuinely LIKE HIM!! but he doesnt fucking understand?? he doesnt understand the difference between LIKING someone and LIKING to HANG OUT with someone. i like him because i like HIM I FEEL HIM, he only likes to hang out with me.

he talks about this as ”his way” and ”bot traditional” way of feeling. his version and definition of ”love” and ”affvtion” is so fucking weird??? we were cuddling and he said ”wow u make me feel more” LMAO BULLSHIT. I CALL FUCKING BULLSHIT YOU ONLY SAY THAT CUS U THINK THATS WHAT I WANT TO HEAR

im partly okay with him being low empathy, he cant help it and i actually genuinely believe he believes he’s doing the RIGHT thing. like he believes it so much and... i guess he is?? like what choice does he have? he cant fucking feel, the least he can do is be kind anyways. he cant help that its not genuine and i guess i’ll have to accept that, but i al NOT GOING TO FALL FOR THOSE CHEAP TRICKS. i didnt say anything but i bet he would even understand if i pointed it out. he’d be like ”but its true!! i feel more with you” no bitch, you only say/think that because you WANT to be with me and now when you know thats what i want to hear thats what you say. smhhh

also i remember in the beginning when i kinda confessed and he was like ”it takes time for me to like someone” and in like???? uhhh okay? and i was anxious abt it cus i really didnt understand what the fuck we were and he just kept ”it takes time for me to like someone” to i was like ”okay but its not like im super super deeply in love with you or anything?? like.... i can like people??” BUT NOW I FUCKING UNDERSTAND HE LITERALLY MEANS BASIC ASS EMPATHY. IT TAKES TIME FOR HIM TO FEEL BASIC ASS EMPATHY FOR OTHER PEOPLE

i just dint understand how the fuck he’s able to still have a family and friends and stuff. how..... how can no one care??? i said ”theyre being manipulated” and hes like ”no i just dont think they care. they just like that im kind and dont think much abt it” but both youre not kind??? but when i tell im its not genuine he goes with the ”well we’re all egoists anyqays, we’re all doing things for ourselves, ur egoist too” yeah but i can still FEEL

i dont wanna be a dick. maybe its just me?? maybe its just because i feel so much and thats why i really NEED that genuine feeling?? no, i know why...... fuCK ME!!! i CARE because i like him 😔😔 bc i think hes so smart and interesring and i see him as someone potential and thats why i keep test him like this 😔 and its for no use because i cant change who he is 😔😔 would i care about these things with some other guy??? no. because i sont care abt them, but i care abt him and thats why 😔😔

hes not even guilt tripping me for it (wow ”yay” ) he just doesnt understand. he doesnt understand the difference or why i find it important. he just sees it as ”him being different” and ”him feeling in another way”. thats not it. this is not normal. this is because of childhood trauma and im so fucking sad for you, no offense, youre doing tour best but thats so sad

well anyways, even if i were to accept his WEIRD ASS DEFINITION OF LOVE he STILL needs to fucking stop with his abuse??????!!!! out of the 3 fights he has told me 2 times he’s going to ”try” but bitch WE KNOW HE WONT. HE CANT! HE CANT BECAUSE HE CANT FEEL WHEN ITS ENOUGH. IF HE FELT EMPATHY HE WOULD KNOW WHEN TO STOP. BUT HE CANT. im just waiting for him to explode someday. i literally asked him ”what should i do next time” and he’s like ”idk, i cant tell you what to do”. omg its true. theres nothing i can do, he’d still be so pissed at me no matter what. and me just asking him is such a BIG RED FLAG like we ALL KNOW.... or not him. he’s like ”maybe we wont fight” LMAO HAHAH YEA BITCH NICE TRY BUT WE WILL BC U START IT

hes so fucking sensitive. we had a misunderstanding, he started to scold me, i got mad and he kept gaslighting ”no i didnt scold you” and when i called him out on gaslighhting..... oh boy...... he got SO FUCKING MA, accuses ME of gaslighting him?? accuses me of ”starting” it with my ”passie aggressiveness” ok maybe i was passive aggressive but i WOULDNT IF HE DIDNT SCOLD ME ABOUT IT. i cant ever criticize him because he goes bananas. ok maybe im not the best to criticize others, im very....... bold. BUT I KNOW IM RIGHT??

last time he got angry because i said ”ppl listen to you bc ur a white man” and he started to bring up his childhood, told me im insensitive, theeatened me to hang up, never talk to me again if i didnt ”respect” him aka ”obey” him, he guilt truppen me, told me no one would want to me with me blah blah blah

a part of me is happy u dont really fall for that bullshit. like yes if course im HURT!!! but as i said, im not really hurt because he really is trying to hurt me. he really WANTS to hurt me. he even takes pride in it?? ”im very good at making people feel very good, and im very good at making people feel very bad” it makes me so FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I LIKE HIM I WANT HIM TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND SO HE CAN GROW, THAT IS EMPATHY PEOPLE, THAT IS GENUINE LOVE

we’re so different. we use completely different tactics. when i used to manipulate my ex.... i NEVER did personal attacks like he does. i never used smth personal AGAINST them.... i was more about.... guilt tripping? more about ”u dont love me, pity me”. im not saying thats good, i was horrible but what he does is just MEAN. i dont understand how anyone can keep up with that kind of behavior. i even told him when we fought and he responded ”well i need to keep up with u”. he always does that and that actually hurts because i like him. and he knows that. he always says ”ive been sitting here, listening to you, been kind to you and....” etc. etc

WHYYYYYY am i the only one criticizing him?? WHY is he like this to me? is it because i see through his ugly acting?? is it even possible for us to ever be healthy together? we can learn from each other, no doubt. but is it healthy???

when i tell him i feel bad bc of horrible manipulative and emotional abusive things ive done he understand but hes like...... ”thats ok dont be so hard on yourself, just learn, everyone makes mistakes” but like no?? THIS IS NOT OKAY!!! he also keeps saying i’ll become like him and like ”stop caring” bc ”we cared too much before” but NO I DONT WANT TO BECOME LIKE YOU!! I ADMIRE YOUR THINKING SKILLS AND ID LIKE TO LEARN SOME OF THAT BC WERE POLAR OPPOSITES YOU THINK, I FEEL. YOU CANT FEEL, I CANT THINK AND HANDLE MY FEELINGS

i dont WANT to. thats the difference. im not satisfiera!!! i told him i dont want to apologize to my ex best friend (who i treated like shit) until it feels GENUINE and hes like ”pfft... its better than nothing. she wont know if its genuine anyways” and im like bitch.... i WANT to be genuine because i think she would appreciate it more and I would feel better about it and hes like ”oh so its cus u wanna feel good about it” OH MY GOD HES SO ANNOYING

i really should pack mt bags and run. why did i have to fall for him UGHHHHH. why do i let him treat me like this when i’d never let ANYONE else do it. its so weird, im very picku with guys. i dont fall for ANYONE. i ALWAYS pick nice and kind guys so why him? i thought he was nice, yeah fair enough, but i still like him even though he isnt? i dont think its me being awfullt desperate, i really wouldnt let anyone be like this. like BOY HE BEKIEVES IN FUXKING REVERSE RACISM DO YALL THINK I WOULD HANG IUT WITH SOMEONE LIKE THAT??? or maybe i am desperate. yes i am. im desperate for the connection i feel. thats kinda sad. i feel a strong bond to/with him, i feel like we’ve been through some things and i still look up to him and how he has recovered. he gives me hope that i can also be happy one day. I DONT WANT TO BE LIKE HIM but i still want to learn from him. and i sont think i will ve like him because im not a sociopath. i just want to take the good stuff and then become better

omg i really am similar to him. im really here feeling superior. i do feel superior because i can feel. i feel superior and a part of me wants to use him. hes a real challenge. i dont think i can maniplate him, it would be amazing to have him feel something for me...... IH MY GOD THIS IS SUCH A FUCKING MESS. NO THIS IS NOT IT. I DO LIKE HIM IM NOT LIKE HIM. IM NOT THAT FUCKED UP

i get really annoyed when he claims im similar that i also want to control and manipulate and im like NO BITCH WERE SIMILAR BUT NOT HERE, like not when im trying to be calm and grown up and have us silver things, not when im crying because he huet my feelings but................ maybe hes right. or maybe hes just manipulating me??? maybe its both. ofc its both. i WAS HURT, i actually HAD anxiety!!!! if that bastard could feel, he would have known it was GENUIKE. AND HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN IM TRYING TO BE CALM AND AN ASULR BECAUSE HE SURE AS HELL FUXKING ISNT AND I ACTUALLY LIKE YOU BITCH I WANT TO SOLVE THIS FOR MY OWN SAKW TOO SO I CAN BE WITH YOU WITHOUT FEELING LIKE A CHEAP WHORE WITH NO SELF RESPECT.... BUT YES OF COURSE I WANTED HIM TO FEEL FOR ME TOO. IT DISTURBS ME SO MUCH THAR I DONT HAVE AN EFFECT ON HIM HEA LIKE A STONE AND OFC IF ANYONE SAW US FIGGT I’D LOOK LIKE THE CALM ONE. hes wrong though bc i used to think like that too with my ex bff. i used to think damn shes only like that so she can feel superior to be and humiliate me but no. she was right. she was more mature than me and she did what she had to do AND THATS WHAT IM DOIKG TO SO FUCK YOU

only way for me to manipulate him would be sexually. he’s that pathetic. a fucking horny dick, thats what he is. but it wouldnt even be manipulation because honestly if hes that fucking horny then its his choice. its not like i’d ever r*pe him, i dont even wanna have sex with him that guy has some HIGH STANDARDS i feel like a virgin next to him but since im not he would also expect more smh. i dont even dare to kiss him back. im only used to virgins so they dont have any experience lmao but... fuck i cant this time

he’s so cockt though for real. he brags about this and that all the time which is kind of his charm..... if it wasnt for the fact that hes always so competitive and serious LMAO. like it would really hurt his ego if i questioned him. imagine me telling him his sex, kisses, brain/psychology or smth was bad. i swear to god he would want to scold me and call me some real nasty things but he probably wouldnt

#diary #jo

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does the car insurance deducation for grades go by all them added up such as a G.P.A. or all of them individual. also what grade do you need for the deducation i think it's a B but im not sure. fyi im a boy and have an 86 GPA

Car insurance coverage fraud!?

My boyfriend did something very stupid that I am worried about. He wanted to apply for a pizza delivery job at Domino's. The thing is he did not have car insurance, so he faked one on the computer, it looked completely valid, but when he was applying for the job the manager called the company to see if it was valid. My boyfriend heard that he was doing this, then he walked out before the company called him back to say he wasn't in their data base. So my question is, since he faked coverage with that company, and his name did not register in their data base, would the company report it to the police that he tried to fake coverage with that company since it was brought to their attention? I am worried for my Love, please shine some light on this. Thank you! He is just worried that the insurance company that he tried to fake coverage with would notify the police and/or the DMV and put it on his license.""

Insurance on a Audi R8?

Well my plan is to get a Audi R8 with 5 years of driving this year, but how much would insurance be if i buy the car used with say 20,000 miles on it and the year is 2009, and if possible what would the insurance on a 2011Audi R8 new ? Seriously i just want to know i dont need to hear your if you ask u cant afford it and what not, so be mature, and just answer it if not f**k off.""

""Cheap, effective health insurance?""

I'm a 25 year old, healthy, unmarried female looking for a low co pay health insurance that covers major medical and dental. I need to be able to see my primary physician for annual checkups and hopefully get Invisalign covered under dental as well. I have no pre existing conditions and would prefer a lower deductible... Somewhere up to $5000 in the event a major medical issue arose.""

Military Out of state insurance?

Im a Texas resident but was stationed in Florida. My car was bought and registered in Florida, and I have my car insured in Florida . I am now stationed in las vegas and if i change the location my car insurance will double. Somebody informed me since im military i can have out of state insurance as long as its from where the car is registered? Is this correct? Does anyone know if im technically still covered or must i switch my car insurance?""

How much should a family budget for insurance?

disability,life,homeowners,car,umbrella""

Can you get a discount on motorcycle insurance if is has an alarm system?

I just go a 2009 zx6r and I was wondering if ICBC gives you a discount if it has a full alarm system and immobilizer? I live in vancouver BC canada thanks

Do you know that 30 million working poor will be able to get health insurance under the affordable care act?

But only if the law stands. http://eclectablog.com/2012/06/18-reasons-the-affordable-care-act-is-the-greatest-achievement-for-the-middle-class-since-medicare.html

Is there affordable health insurance available for fertility: tubal reversal?

Me and my fiancee' are wanting to have another baby. The only problem is that my tubes are tied. I wanna know is there afforable health insurance that covers fertility? Is there ...show more

How much for car insurance?

My mom told me to look for my first car and I found a 2002 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS, Silver, non-convertible, and i asked her if it was ok. She said that the it is considered a sports car because it is a coupe and insurance will be high, it has 2 seats in the back but it is a 2 door....can somebody tell me if insurance will actually be high for me...im 16 and ive never been a accident Thanks!""

What is the average of full coverage car insurance for a chavy blazer 2001 in north Carolina?

I am planing to buy a chavy blazer 2001 used car. I know I will need full coverage insurance. I am a good driver, haven't have any accidents or traffic violations. How much would the car insurance cost in North Carolina?""

What car insurance company provides the cheapest policies and best coverage?

How much would insurance be for a jeep Cherokee?

i am planning to get a jeep cherokee or wrangler and want to know how much car insurance would be. i am 16 and want to know how much money i should pay insurance to see if it is in my budget.

What is the cheapest car insurance company right now!!!?

Getting my auto insurance rates down?

My wife and daughter just started driving, my daughter is a college student with a hi gpa and will be 18 soon. We have a 2008 Honda crv and a 2003 Honda Odyssey How can I get to pay the lowest premium with 100,000 300,000 my daughter only goes to school 4 days a week.Thanks John California""

What is good insurance for teens?

Can I have some good companies? I want the basic insurance package. im 17, male, senior in HS thank you""

How much does a car insurance agent earn per car insured?

what is the average earnings a car insurance agent earn per car insured? i am looking into the possibility of becoming a car insurance agent in the very near future.

What is the cheapest and most affordable auto insurance?

i live in illinois

An individual purchasing auto insurance is an example of:?

An individual purchasing auto insurance is an example of: Answer Hedging. Passing risk to someone else. Risk premium. Systematic risk. a and d

What do Life and Homeowners insurance cover?

I have a tricky question that I really need an answer to. I just got back from the hospital. I was working on my garage this evening and I had a terrible accident. I was ripping a piece of ply wood with my table saw and I ended up cutting my middle finger on my left hand off. I have heard that in some instances life insurance pays out. I am just wondering if maybe that would be true. The other thing I was thinking is would my homeowners insurance possibly cover something like this. I have health insurance and am not too worried about medical bills. The problem I will have is keeping up with my bills when I cant work which sounds like quite awhile until this heals. My finger was non- repairable. I am in the construction industry. I need my hands to work. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Where/how can i get kitten care insurance?

please tell me i need to take my 8 week old kitten to the vet (bloomington,IN)""

Can my car and I be added to my boyfriends car insurance policy?

I'm buying a car tomorrow and insurance for myself only is going to be over a $100 a month. If I get added to someones policy its wayyy cheaper. My boyfriend has progressive insurance. Could my car and I be added to his policy?

Changing grades for car insurance?

so my car insurance company wants my transcript so that i can get a discount. my GPA is high enough for the discount, but not high enough for my dad. if i make a copy and slightly adjust it and give it to my dad, there shouldn't be a big problem right. its not like they check the grades with the school to see if its perfect. and i'm not changing an F to a b. just like raise my low 70's to 74's or 75's. theres a possibility of this working correct?""

How much is your auto insurance annual premium in NJ ?

I live in Central New Jersey and I pay around $1700 for 2 cars + 2 drivers with no accidents. How much do you pay approx ?

If someone hits me do I file a claim with his insurance company or mine?

on new years eve a man backed into my car, I'm kind of behind and starting to finally get on it, when we called state farm (my company) they said it would make our rates go up because we were filing with them, do I have to call his insurance company or mine? and is there a certain amount of time i have to file a claim?""

Site for FREE vehicle history report?

my girlfriend is looking to buy this car, and we took down the VIN number, so we can look up the history on it, to make sure it's good enough to be bought, but i was wondering if you guys knew any sites that had FREE vehicle history report, that you typed the VIN # in, and didn't have to pay for. because auto check, and carfax and some other one, you have to pay monthly for. and i think that's absolutely ridiculous. i just wanna look it up real quick, and that's it. thanks for your help, guys. =)""

Is auto liability insurance mandatory in Texas?

I know it is mandatory in NYC, but not in all states. Is Texas one of the states where it is not mandatory?""

What is a good and cheap insurance for a Acura Rsx 2002?

I just recently got my license and want to know of good and cheap insurance for my car.

Another question about health insurance?

alot of people are angry that they have to have health insurance unconstitutional etc.but arent we suppose to have car insurance by law if drive?

Whats the difference between molina & caresource health insurance?

Will my auto insurance rates go up if I get a red light camera ticket?

This is my first red light camera ticket but my second ticket this year. The first one was a speeding ticket. Will my auto insurance rates go up for a red light ticket?

What is the cost of homeowners insurance on Alabama shores?

Have or have not got insurance if you live on Alabama coast?

Penalty for not having auto insurance in calif.?

""How much does it cost per month, in avarege, to lease a non-expensive car,including insurance fee?""

How much does it cost per month, in avarege, to lease a non-expensive car,including insurance fee?""

How much is insurance in a car for a 17 year old?

I get my provisional this week and I'm just wondering how much it is? I'm from Ireland by the way.

Car Insurance - No claims question?

If you have been banned for a year, and are now back and allowed legally to drive, can you continue to use/put down your no claims bonus. For example, if you had 9 years, then were banned for a year, can you put the 9 down this year? Or does the ban wipe that out? As the ban wasn't a claim on the insurance, can it still be used? Does anyone know, or any ideas where I could check this out? Looking for quotes online and Im not sure which number to put in.""

How to get cheap car insurance?

im 17, my mates have got theres for just over a thousand pounds, but all my quotes are 3 thousand plus, how can i make it cheaper? like by putting my mum as a driver or?""

How much does insurance go up with a teen getting his license?

the teen will get his license on march. dependig on insurance cost. he will be 16 and with be driving a 2003 to 2005 honda accord. auto. how much would insurance go up on the year policy. oh he also gets very good grades.

How much is insurance for under ground pools?

Will i be double paying for house insurance?

I have had a 3 year personal loan on my house with a balloon payment on the end, and i am Re-financing the house to include my taxes/insurance with a conventional 30 year note. I have already paid my 2010 property Tax, and my 2011 house insurance is due March 21st. I am going to the bank today, will i actually have to pay my insurance come March 21st or is that something the bank does?""

If you accidentally hit someone with your car how much does your insurance premium increase?

By hit someone, I mean a pedestrian.""

Do I need to keep insurance on a broken down car?

My son's car is not working and seemingly not worth repairing. Do I need to continue insuring it until we get rid of it?

""Which is cheaper for liability insurance, in Alabama: Geico, The General, or 21st Century?""

I am buying a little beater, just need some el cheapo liability..cant compare w/o VIN number, don't have that yet..""

Do I need my own insurance to rent a car?

I am a US citizen but I live outside the country. I'll be coming to the US for about two weeks over Thanksgiving and will need a rental car to get about and between the two places I'll be staying. Since I live outside the country, I don't have my own personal car insurance, as the country I live in doesn't require any. I have a PA driver's license, so I'm fine in that department. I just want to know - since the rental car companies don't explain anything - whether or not I need to have a my own insurance to take the car off the lot...OR, since the rental car companies are required by law to have liability coverage, which is the PA state minimum, am I able to just drive the car off the lot without ever giving proof of insurance. As far as I've been told, the last part is generally the standard - with the caveat that if I were to get into an accident, I would be responsible to all damage done to the vehicle itself, as well as myself. But I just want to make sure with anyone who's in the know.""

What are the books that insurance companies use?

What are books that are full of the variations of ways that people have died, that insurance companies use to produce statistics called or labelled as genre.""

What is the average cost of car insurance for a 16 year old male?

I need it for a school project PLEASE HELP!

Can I get temporary car insurance for 3 to 5 days?

I'm not currenty insured because i go to San Francisco state and dont need a car, im going to florida for thanksgiving and ive got my old car out there, but my parents wont let me drive it unless im insured..""

Car insurance is very cheap or very expensive?

Help with insurance prices?

I was wondering what the cost of these cars would be for a 16 year old male or just a list of most expensive to insure to cheapest to insure. 2006 Chrysler 300 touring 50000 miles 2007 dodge charger sxt 40000 miles 2006 chevy cobalt ss not sc or tc 60000 miles

How much is your auto insurance annual premium in NJ ?

I live in Central New Jersey and I pay around $1700 for 2 cars + 2 drivers with no accidents. How much do you pay approx ?

Cheap Health Insurance In New York State for single adult?

Is there any good but cheap health insurance in new york state not based on income?

Does my teenager need to be added to my insurance policy BEFORE he receives his driver's license?

Three of my friends didn't add their kids until they actually had their licenses, and the driving school said that technically they are covered by the parent's insurance while driving with just a permit. When I called AAA, they said I needed to add him. If I don't have to add him to the policy until he's actually a licensed driver and save the enormous $$$ it'll cost, I'd prefer to wait.""

How much is average insurance for someone under 18 that buys a 2006 BMW 325i e90?

This is one of my favourite e90 cars, that's a 4-door, if I'm under 18, how much would insurance be? OR even better, how much is YOUR insurance?""

Insurance m3 17 year old?

I have found a really nice BMW m3 2005 on eBay and considering it as a first car i have had simlair quotes for 1.4 polo what i was wondering is if i could have it on commercial insurance on my dads policy and me as a named driver as i wouldn't be driving as often as him and around how much would it be if Ive had a quote of 4700 on my own policy?

Is there such a thing as divorce insurance?

My parents are getting a divorce and, since it's California, the courts favor the female. Even though my mom and dad earn about the same money, my dad has to pay this huge amount to my mom for child support because she got more time with my younger brother. He's 12 and he told the mediator that he would rather live my dad full time, but the court gave my mom more time and made her the custodial parent. How old do you have to be to tell the court which parent you want to live with all the time? Also, just like there is medical insurance, has anyone ever heard of divorce insurance? It would kick in if you're ever stuck with child or spousal support. I haven't found anything on the internet yet.""

Car Insurance Help?

Where can I find Car Insurance with no license needed answer ASAP??

My car was hit and I have no insurance?

Hi, I have just moved to Alberta from Ontario, I cancelled my insurance and then was not able to get insurance with out an out of province car inspection...... totally my fault I'm not covered but when I stopped at a pedestrian crossing a truck slammed into me from behind. who claims from his insurance company if I don't have insurance doing it on my behalf? I also sustained some injuries where do I stand on this matter?""

Help on insurance?

does anybody know were i can find an affordable full coverage insurance in Los Angeles? its for an Escalade.

""On average, how much does it cost to purchase and maintain a car? (insurance, car note, gas, tags, etc).?

i am 17 years old and a senior in high school and i would like to own and drive a car as soon as possible. please help!

Motorcyce Insurance (Temp) Cost? Possible?

I own a 2001 Ford Ka. I'm 18 in a month, and I pay 400 a month for car insurance. I'm looking to purchase a motorcycle in the summer, to cut the cost of petrol for going to work, and as a hobbie. I've been interested in taking up riding for a year now. I'm looking to buy a Honda CBF 125. Maybe a CBR 125. Although, I'm only wanting temp insurance. For, Say, The summer. Pay each month and stop when you want, start when you want. As sometimes some months im away, and i wont need it. I was just wondering, Could I get insurance for under 60 a month? I'm still on provisional bike licence. I just really don't want to be looking at another 400 a month for something i'm only using for sunny days/fun. Thanks!""

I need to find cheap renters insurance in Michigan? Wheres the best place to go?

17 soon. just wondering about car insurance?

whether when i pass n get a car if il be able to pay insurance monthly? and does it cost more tht way (uk)

What is the best life insurance for seniors?

age 53, will retire in 2010 - federal employee""

How much does renter's insurance cost?

Insurance plan for emancipated teens?

So I'm leaving for Texas/Mississippi this summer and if I enjoy it down there I would be able to live with my sister and be able to go to school . . . but the thing is my parents don't know if I would be able to go to school down there without them signing the forms and what not since they live up here in Oregon . . . I'm 17 I'll be 18 in about 8 months but till then my mom was considering giving up legal rights to me (not because of family issues) so that i would be able to sign the forms myself yada yada yada now the thing is if there rights are terminated I will no longer be on there health plan or any insurance I honestly know for a fact that I'm not able to provide myself with insurance and any other adult type amenities I'm wanting to get my HS diploma and go to collage and become a Elementary Teacher for underprivileged children in Mississippi and or Texas so is there any insurance plans that help with kids who no longer have legal guardians but can't afford it? or is it possible for me to enroll into a high school that isn't in my own state and if so how!?

Im 18 how can i get affordable insurance?

im a private contractor self employed individual i dont make much at the moment im still covered by my parents but i want to checked out and im ebarassed to ask parents because i feel like i might have something they have enough bills and issues and id like to be responsible for my own actions and bare the consequences if i must but hopefully its nothing...

How much is insurance for a 16 year old?

So Im looking to buy a car when I turn 16 in a few months.. preferably the 2012 beetle which comes out to be around $25,000 and about $400 a month for 72 months. And I am also looking to get a job and work as many hours as I can, including the summer AND when school is back in session. I live in Southern California so minimum wage is $8.00... I am just hoping I can afford the car even with the cost of insurance... and after taxes as well! Im having trouble figuring it out so PLEASE help! Thanks :)""

Car insurance / liability coverage?

My brother, who is insured with a different company, had an accident with my car. There were 3 cars involved in the accident. He hit the first car in the back which hit the second car and so forth. I don't know whether it was his fault or not, and we did not informed my brother's insurance because it was my car that was crash. The problem now is that, I have only had basic coverage, and my insurance is telling me that my liability coverage ($5000) can cover only one car, meaning that I have to take care of the 2 others cars. So I am wandering what should I do? Please advice""

Is car insurance you buy online instant cover?

Hi, I'm interested in buying a car at 4pm after a viewing. I would obviously have to set the insurance to start on today's date but does it happen instantly or does it not activate for hours/days? Just being careful because I dont want to be stopped! It's with Igo insurance btw thanks""

Insurance rates for this car?

First car, v8 mustang""

Where can i get non-owner's insurance in houston?

i need some cheap, yet effective non-owner's insurance. if anyone knows of a smaller insurance company that provides this, preferably on the east side of houston, i would be most grateful. any info would be welcomed (but none of those sarcastic i dunnos just to get points). thanx.""

Any Creative Marketing ideas for Auto/home insurance in California?

I've been trying lots of new ideas for marketing my insurance business. I do flyers, internet advertising and more. What made you chose your insurance agent? What sorts of things are important to you, (other than price)? What sort of promotions would you be interested in seeing?""

Car Insurance coverage?

I was driving in a dirt parking lot at my school, I drove over some 3 foot tall weeds, I didn't see there was rocks underneath and as a result, damage to the under carriage occurred to my vehicle as follows: 1. Radiator crack 2. Transmission oil pan bent, 3. Exhaust damage total est cost $1,800 I am wondering whether or not this will be covered by insurance this happened yesterday I have not yet contacted my insurance company it occurred within 100 Yards of a paved road.""

Do I need car insurance to drive?

So I'm sixteen and use to think as long as the car had insurance I was okay. I have my license and sometimes I drive my moms car in case it was required since my mom really needs someone in the family to drive. Recently I was told I needed to be added to her list but my mom says since I have medical insurance it's okay? oO That I just need some sort of insurance in order to pay.. not necessarily car insurance. So if I get pulled over and police ask for my license [which I have] and registration [which I also have] would I get arrested and have my license suspended?

Can my mom carry me on her car insurance?

My mom lives in GA and has transfered her car insurance over to GA, but I live in SC and am getting my permit in SC. Can she still put me on her insurance even though I live in SC and am getting my permit in SC.""

How much is your auto insurance annual premium in NJ ?

I live in Central New Jersey and I pay around $1700 for 2 cars + 2 drivers with no accidents. How much do you pay approx ?

Fully comp car insurance?

Hello wondering if I am covered to drive another car if we both have fully comp car insurance and if engine sizes have to match thanks

Is obligation have a motorcycle insurance in the USA?

Hi, im in Friona Texas and i have a car, but insurance is so expensive because im 20, so i think in buy a motorcycle because i hear that the motorcycle insurance is more cheap than car insurance, but is this truth? I hear than pay 400 for year So how much pay for insurance and is obligation have a motorcycle insurance?""

Keep until expires or cancel car insurance?

My car has broken down for the last time. It is very old (1998) and very high mileage. I am deciding to sell it for parts and what I can get rather than sink any more money into it. Point of negative returns. I will be going carless for some time, taking the bus and using a car share program. That is just background though. Hoping to save the money, pay off other things and raise credit score to possibly qualify for a brand new one in the future. My question is about the auto insurance. I just renewed at the beginning of the year. So I have about 4 months left before the policy is done. I am making monthly payments. If I cancel now, will I still owe them for the entire policy amount - (can they come after me for it?) Or does it look better (when I go to get insurance in the future) that I keep paying on the policy until it expires in a few month (just not renew at that time). I don't want to spend money needlessly. However, I also want the best (least expensive) insurance rates when I need it in the future, and a good track record. Can anyone (especially if you are in the insurance industry) give me the straight scoop? Thanks and much appreciated.""

Does the mazda 3 have high insurance costs?

just wondering if it would be in the sports car range or the sedan range?

Car insurance - What's the car worth?

In the past when ever i've been asked by insurance companies what my car is worth i've always told them the amount that i think i could realisticly sell it for (what its worth? or so i thought) If i was to sell my car i would be able to get around 1200-1300, which is what i would say 'it's worth', HOWEVER, recently after putting my reg number into a price comparison website it automatically came up with a value of just 700. (My car has low milege, fsh and is in v good condition so is worth more than average) So my question is, if i tell them it's worth say 1250, take out their policy and then i write it off, what will they pay? The amount i told them or 'their' valuation. Also, am i paying a higher premium than i should because i'm telling them it's true value instead of their lower valuation? and if so, how many other people are doing this?""

What are the contents of an insurance premium?

Insurance Agency Tax Help 1120S?

I own an insurance agency. I have a seperate checking account for insurance premium funds. When we collect a insurance premium payment from a customer, the funds are deposited into this account and then we send our agency check to the insurance company. How are these funds treated on form 1120S?""

Is New York Life Insurance a good company to work for?

I have been job hunting and got a interview next week for financial adviser. I want to know if this type of job are commission based pay only and do I have to bug friend and family to buy stuff? thanks, andy""

Citroen saxo car insurance?

How much would this cost for a 17 year old male who has just passed his test?

Insurance rate for 17 year old in california?

as my first car i was looking at the evo x mr or the 3g eclipse gt, gts which would be better as my first car and wat would be the insurance cost for either of these cars?""

Car insurance help?

Ok so im about to turn 16. my parents said they would get me a car, but only if i paid my own insurance. can u please tell me how much it would be a month. and what company would be the lowest price. i dont know if u need this info but. im 16. white ( someone told me it matters?), i live in florida (palm beach county), and the car will probably be an audi a4. thanks for help""

I got an insurance quote for a 1990 mustang gt at 225 a month. im 17 how do i get lower?

i want a foxbody so bad. nothing will stop me from getting one except insurance rates with my dad. he is being stiff about a mustang in general so i need a low insurance rate to ...show more

My daughter had a car wreck with my car causing my insurance to go up.?

My daughter had a car wreck with my car causing my insurance to go up. Technically I didn't cause the insurance, so if I was to switch insurances, will it still show up. It would just be me in the policy now.""

Problems with my car insurance?HELP?

last night somebody broke in into my car stole my audio system, they rip the cover of the doors to get the speaker and they broke the dash to get the stereo, not satisfied with that those bastards scratched all around my car, I called my insurance and they asked about a previous claim ,,where a car hit me in the front side and broke my light, well they asked if I fix that ,,they payed a thousand $ to me because I have full coverage but they got their money back from the other partie insurance, so I told them that I did replace the light but that was it, u guys think Im gointo have problems with them because my car wasn't in excellent conditions or because I didn't fix it HELP,have this ever happened to anyone tell me,,,,,,,,thanks""

Who gets cheaper insurance guys or girls?

Im getting my first car but my mom says 2 dr car insurance is more expensive than a 4dr is that true explain.?

i love my mom but i wanna pick what i drive i want a two door car because if i get a 4 door car ppl are gonna leave there trash in it and im gonna be pissed off. My great great grandfather told me that the driver don't pick the car the car picks the driver and i understood him i want a car that is suitable to standards the most important thing it has to have is a sunroof/moonroof cd player and all power options. my mom just doesn't understand me or my life can someone please help me just a straight shot of info which car insurance is more expensive a 2 door car or a 4 door car.

Why do auto insurance quotes change day by day?

I received a quote today online, then went back to the same quote today and it was $22.00 more. I didn't change any of my info. Why do these quotes vary day by day? Is there a particular time I should search for quote? Thanks in advance for your answers!""

How can I get low-cost affordable medical care in Oklahoma?

I recently moved to Oklahoma. Can't afford health insurance -- and am worried about what to do if I need to go to the doctor. What are my options? (I have no Indian blood and ...show more

Does Car insurance increase for adding spouse as Non-driver?

I have been added to my Dh policy for Car insurance as Non-driver. I dnt know driver. Does it increase the insurance rate? suggestions please

Insurance after admitting responsibility car crash?

i have admitted responsibility at the scene when i crashed my car into someone elses. i have since found out that it will make my insurance go up horrendously. yikes!! how much is my insurance likely to go up? im worried

Could someone please explain health insurance to me?

Difference between PPO HMO DRG Private insurance, and deductibles I read it in my textbook but all these terms I'm not very familiar with so no matter how much I re-read the paragraphs I'm still a bit confused... I might sound stupid but oh well! Clarify for me please! Thanks for all who answer""

Does full coverage insurance cover repair costs of the other vehicle 100%?

there's no damage to my car (only bend license plate), but scratches on the other person's bumper. I have full coverage insurance in California and just made my claim. Since my car doesn't need fixing, will my insurance cover the repairs on their vehicle completely?""

Financing a car and someone els pays for insurance?

If I'm financing a car can someone els buy me full coverage and pay for it? . (Car being under there name for insurance yet under my name for the car payments with the bank)

""When you get married, how do you get off of your parent's insurance, etc?""

My dad still has me declared as a dependant, and my car insurance and health insurance is on his. When I get married will these automatically change, or do I have to notify the insurance companies and tax people?""

Cheapest car to insure for 17 year old male in Toronto?

Im looking to buy a car and i live in the toronto area. Insurance is not the cheapest here. I was wondering what my best bet was in terms of insurance. Im looking for cars, not minivans,suvs, trucks...etc""

How much is your auto insurance annual premium in NJ ?

I live in Central New Jersey and I pay around $1700 for 2 cars + 2 drivers with no accidents. How much do you pay approx ?

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Thoughts on“Reverse Racism”

Okay, this is all I’m going to say. I didn’t have a lot of time, so I barely got this done, but this is all I’m going to say about this. I won’t say anything more.

@creamsicklesz Here is my response, and although I highly doubt you’d change your mind, I wanted to say this.

Okay so this is the beginning of this long explanation on my thoughts to not only your responses on the topic, but just in general about the topic itself.

Racism

noun

1.a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

2 . a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

To begin, I want to start off with talking about what racism is. Many people including yourself classify racism to be a simple definition is based off individual opinion and belief. They simply define racism as a belief that your skin color or “race” makes one race better or superior to the other. However, you can refuse it all you want, but racism is so much more than that. Its overly simplified, and to understand it you do not just look at a simple definition.

Prejudice is a belief. It is judging people or something without prior knowledge of said person or thing. You can be prejudiced towards a white person.

Discrimination is when the prejudice someone has, is put into action. If someone is refused a job or service because of their race or ethnicity or anything of the sort, it is discrimination. An example used by this article was if a black person who was an interviewer were to refuse a white person who is being interviewed, or vice versa, it would be discrimination. You can discriminate against white people.

Racism is when this combination of prejudice and discrimination is becoming the norm or “institutionalized” within the population. Never ever have white people being segregated, treated unfairly, or anything of that sort been the norm. Never has there been a law that made whites anything less than privileged.

Now that that’s out the way, I want to address the responses you’ve made.

First I want to say that opinions by nature are biased. Whomever writes them and whomever speaks them, have decided from different sources and have a bias towards a certain opinion. To me, what is considered “unbiased” to you means that the source must come from someone who shares your views. My views and the views of those who think like me are very much biased and so are yours.

“This belief that you SIMPLY CANNOT BE RACIST towards white people keeps racism alive, it keep the divide between people and you are part of the problem. You should do some research instead of blindly listening to your parents or what the media tells you. Racism is racism plain and simple. When you group an entire race together for the actions of some, you are being racist.”

1) Racism has never been a problem with white people. What you consider “racism” towards whites is not why racism is alive. Racism is alive because of whoop you guessed it racists. People who still believe it’s okay to discriminate against minorities and people who don’t have the power or institutional support to fight back.

2) If I am part of the problem, the problem you are speaking of is completely different than the one that is happening before us. The problem is that racists are still able to oppress and discriminate against racial minorities and get away with it. Trump is a GREAT example. He is a huge racist and look at him, he’s our president. He, a WHITE MAN is holding the power of the POTUS, and because racism is so normalized in our society, It’s okay. Being mean to white people isn’t the problem.

3) You do not know me, and the comment that I blindly listen to my parents or social media was unnecessary, don’t try to invalidate others without knowing where they come from first. On that note, my parents heavily prejudiced towards black people specifically. My mother has literally told my sister that a boy she liked was ugly because he was very dark-skinned,and my father said black people should be grateful that slavery allowed their race to be more built and good at sports. They’ve never made an opinion about white people and told me that I should listen to what they say. The media is a whole other story. Media always depicts minorities and anyone other than white, cis, heterosexuals in a different light. Media tells me that the white man is the superior to all of us, and if I believed that, well I wouldn’t be typing this right now.

4) Again, “racism is racism” means something different to you than me

” So if your source of education and research on this topic happens to be MTV Decoded and/or Francesca Ramsey, you really need to find another source that is unbiased and based in actual facts and logic, one that doesn’t Re-Define things to fit their agendas okay? MTV and Buzzfeed are heavy on that SJW sauce and they constantly contradict themselves. “

I will list my sources that I’ve used if you truly want to see that I’m not one to use only one source. I did not choose that video because of nothing, it made good points and although you may consider it heavily biased, the video made points that are important to address. Like I said before every opinion is biased and you can use different sources of facts to support your claim.

I’m going to break this quote into parts.

1) “White Americans are the racial majority in America. So it would make sense that we get the most representation in MSM right? with that being said, the beauty ideals in America differ from region to region, however, tan and golden is the Most sought after. Not pale AF like myself, Not super dark like some. You cant blame others for your internalized colorism. I am CERTAINLY not the ideal beauty according to ANYONES MSM.-“

Like you said, beauty standards may differ from place to place. I agree with this opinion, but you are focusing only on skin color. If the ideal is “tan and golden” then why arent most models like that? Why is it that for example a black model isn’t sought out by companies? It’s because beauty ideals do not deal only with skin tone. Black features like their big lips (and I mean big, not the ideal “thick and plump”) or any other natural black feature are often seen as ugly. You do have people to blame for internalized colorism. It’s in the name, meaning someone or something has made you feel that one color skin is more beautiful or preferred than another. The only difference is how you decide to deal with it. It’s not easy to rid of things that were internalized, but people need to try.

2) “Most people don’t give two fucks about your race and most people celebrate differences, especially these days. To those who have bad experiences with some white people, its is RACIST to assume all white people are the same and to avoid them completely.”

I personally don’t know where you live or what kind of environment you are surrounded by, but its true that in many places, specifically large urban areas, diversity is embraced and celebrated, but that isn’t the case everywhere. You have to understand that while you might live somewhere where racial diversity is embraced, others can be and are still discriminated against in other places. I do agree that ignoring someone based on their race is not okay, but this is an example of prejudice and discrimination of an individual, and NOT the normalized racism you see with others.

3) “Just like Not ALL black people in America are criminals or bad people. Would you say its okay for a white person to avoid and judge black people for past experiences they’ve had? NO, you would call it racist, wouldn’t you? I was physically attacked for my race and still, some would say that’s its not racist. You have no compassion if you think that’s not racist. And still! I don’t judge any other black person for the way those 4 girls ganged up on me. I don’t judge other for the looks that I get from SOME black people. I never judged when SOME black people wouldn’t touch my hand when I was trying to give them their money when I worked at Walgreens. I didn’t judge all black people when I lived in Chicago and was CLEARLY the minority in my neighborhood. Don’t have double standards. It’s perpetuating racism and making it worse. I’m sorry if this OFFENDS anyone, but this is something I’ve always HATED. I HATE racism, sexism, homophobia. And I know most people do too. So I can NEVER UNDERSTAND how some think this is okay?! “

It is true that we shouldn’t discriminate against each other. It is dumb to assume that a few people represent an entire group. But again, it’s not racist. It is prejudiced, it is discrimination, but it is not racism. I guess you would deem me with no compassion, but that is not true. I can’t say anything about the situation where those girls “ganged up on you” because I know nothing of the situation. As for the walgreens thing, how do you know specifically it was because of race? I don’t like when people touch my hands, especially not strangers, so again, unless I was there, I can’t say anything.

“Every race has had their slaves, but people don’t think that counts. For some reason, we never learn about how the Arabs and the Middle East hosted more African slaves than North America ever did, we don’t learn about how white slaves were sold in Africa along with their own people, the fact that the slaves who came to America were sold by their own people is just ignored bc it doesn fit the racist agenda that is popular now. The African Moors had white slaves for hundreds of years.

This doesn’t mean that the slave trade in America wasn’t horrible, it obviously was, it just means it wasn’t special. As far as discrimination in todays Western society, In America since that is what I can speak first hand for, I can agree that white people haven’t had to deal with what blacks did. that’s %100 true. However, bringing back segregation and shifting the racism towards white people doesn’t make up for what happened in the past. I wasn’t alive for slavery or for segregation in the 50’s and 60’s but I can tell you right now I would have been in the street and sit ins along with all the other humans that deserved equal treatment. “By the way, in my opinion, racism is a way of thinking, its not just a definition. It’s thinking you are better than someone bc of their skin. it’s using an entire race as a scapegoat to explain your or the worlds problems. Its simply not having love and compassion for another human being. Its evil and its the worst part of humanity, it is the utter LACK of humanity. And no race is exempt from this. To say an entire race IS exempt from this is to say that race is superior to the other. This is R A C I S M”

The entire first paragraph is what I would parallel with the “All Lives Matter”. Yes other people had slaves, I acknowledge that this happened, but using it to defend your point is tearing down not only the suffering people went through, and the work we’ve done to try and rid of it. The “white slaves sold by their own people.” were mostly from Ireland and Europe. They came here willingly and those who didn’t most likely were told they had to be indentured servants in the U.S. by their country. I am going to emphasized indentured servants, because they were not slaves at all. They were treated far better than slaves in the south.

The African Moors did have white slaves, and it was a preference toward the blond hair, blue eyes. Their peak of european slaves was around 1.2 million, while America was home to about 4 million african slaves.

An example I want to use is if two people had a serious injury. Let’s say person 1 had one leg missing and person 2 had both legs missing. You wouldn’t tell person one to suck it up just because person 2 has both legs gone. You wouldn’t tell person 1 that their injury isn’t special or doesn’t matter because someone else has it worse. We are not shifting racism to whites, you are still in power, you are still majority, you are still privileged whether you want to deny it or not. It’s common sense that anyone should stand up to equality in the 50s and 60s. the 50s and 60s right? Well ye-no. In the decades of segregation, colorism was internalized and although you may have grown up with and abusive step father now, you have absolutely no idea who you would be raised by and how you would have grown up there. Racism is a way of thinking, but the thing that makes it racism is the fact that its normalized and minorities are not supported in any institution. The government is discriminatory of us, and that is racism.

In regards to this article

I don’t like this quote

“How would that have felt? Might you have imagined that this could reinforce in the minds of your classmates the stereotype that blacks are weak students?”

The whole situation itself that they used as an example is really weird. To say that someone is “randomly” put into an advanced class. Minorities in college were not “randomly” put there. You can’t compare someone being “randomly placed in an advanced class in high school” to someone who applied and has shown enough strength to be accepted into college. Colleges don’t pick minority students just because they can, minority students still have to work hard and have the qualifications to be accepted into colleges.

Stereotypes are bad enough. This sentence is saying that the students in your class already look down on you for being black. It is saying that this stereotype is already in their mind and that when they see you doing bad, they’re like “ see black people are lazy”.

Minorities don’t have the same opportunities as white people already, affirmative action is providing those opportunities. If minorities are failing in colleges because of SAT scores and grades, then maybe think why they don’t do as well.

University of Texas:

A lot of this is saying that blacks and minorities aren’t academically prepared or competitive but I’m going to tell you that that this starts even before college. Minorities tend to be predominantly low income so they’ll be more likely to live in low income areas. If you compare these two maps, most low-income areas are higher in population of black and hispanics. This means that most likely, their schools don’t have the funds to give them the opportunities and funds to even be able to be competitive from even before college or highschool. Same goes for this data.

“Minorities also have a higher chance of being accepted in universities, even if their grades or academic record is not as “good” as their white peers. Again, they have the privilege. The problem of minorities not getting higher level education is that a larger percentage than white people do not finish high school or seek higher education.”

“Second, strong black and Hispanic students accepted UCLA offers of admission at much higher rates after the preferences ban went into effect; their choices seem to suggest that they were eager to attend a school where the stigma of a preference could not be attached to them. This mitigated the drop in enrollment.”

Again, I believe that this has to do with the fact that minorities are discouraged to begin with.They have few role models and representation, and the prejudice in this country often tells them that they won’t be able to account to anything.

“I wont get into black on black crime being more prevalent than white on black crime bc no one seems to think that’s valid.”

Mm it really depends because yes, black on black is more than white on black, but so is white on white. So depending on what you’re trying to argue, it could or couldn’t be valid.

“Not as many white people experience this because the white community finishes high school more often, they have less babies at a young age and out of wedlock, and they get jobs because of this. “

Whites generally have higher incomes which means better education. Better education not only means knowledge like math and writing, but also knowledge about family planning and safe sex. This really seems like you’re trying to allude that whites are superior because of their favoring in our society, but I could be misunderstanding.

“ I see more positivity regarding black hair etc. than I’ve ever seen negativity, at least in my lifetime and this generation. I see more negativity within the black community itself. This racism against whites is not social equality.”

You see more positivity on black hair nowadays because you most likely see it on the internet (which is a big thing in this generation), in the real world out there, not the internet community, a lot of people experience negativity about their hair. Again, just because you personally haven’t seen much of it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. And yes it is social equality, why? Because you are finally getting to see what it’s like to be us, and even now you still don’t and will not experience discrimination and racism at the level that we do.

“Two wrongs to not make a right. Knocking someone else down doesn’t bring you up. And it certainly doesn’t end racism in general, it perpetuates it. White people have not had privilege in a long time. Hell, white people aren’t even the race doing the best within America, that’s Asian Americans! They get the best jobs and the highest education. Because, on average, Asian families stay together, they have strong morals and work ethic, and they have a very strong emphasis in education.”

I agree with your first statement, but white people still have privilege….. The fact that whites get charged less time for the same crimes, you aren’t as frequent victims or police brutality, you won’t be ridiculed for your name, you can express yourself using other cultures and not be called “dirty” or be told to go back to your country for speaking your native language. Most likely, English is your first language, and you won’t be laughed at for an accent not favorable (ex: the Asian stereotype of “herro” vs people loving British accents). You guys are seen most times seen as one of the races least likely to commit serious crimes. Those are all privileges that aren’t available to all of us. Asian Americans are doing very well in America why though? You can look here. (and some other links in my sources). The very strong emphasis on education is a good thing, but it can also be very draining, as Asian American children have this weight put on their shoulders and even in Asian countries, many mental downsides come along with this. One example would be their very high suicide rates.

“I do feel entitled to be treated like a human, just as everyone else should. I don’t feel that its right to be called a “White Devil” or that all white people are born racist and are inferior or to be attacked for no reason, for things ive never done, all because I’m white. I don’t care what you or anyone says, that RACIST.”

You do have the right to be treated like a human and everyone else too, the problem is that’s not the case with us. White people are treated like humans. Minorities (and not just racial minorities I mean all minorities) are denied rights and treated like we are inferior to whites. WE are the ones treated like the inferiors, not you, especially because we tend to have lower incomes, we struggle even more as a group. WE are attacked for no reason and far more often than whites. Whites are definitely not the victim, which is what I’m getting from this statement.

“If i were to group you all together for what one person does, it would not affect your ability to get jobs, to get higher level education, and other things of that sort Affirmative action was created to specifically help minorities acquire jobs and it is still active today, so in fact, minorities have the privilege in this instance. If someone is denied work simply because of their race and not their attitude, qualifications, or overall skill, that person can sue and will %100 win.” “However on the occasion that there is discrimination, which I know there is, that person has the ability to sue and I can guarantee they will win. This disproves systematic racism along with the other examples I provided above. And just in case they can’t afford to sue, there are public defenders and the NAACP has provided legal counsel for the black community on numerous occasions. “

If you were to group us together of course it wouldn’t affect as as you are one person. When a lot of white people who are the ethnic majority were to do the same thing, then we have a problem. Affirmative action was created to help us, but maybe you should think why we would need help in the first place? It’s trying to help us have equal opportunities that come naturally to a person born white in America. How can you 100% guarantee that if someone sues that they would win? The justice system itself is a problem at times, police brutality is made out to be okay, so what makes you think that someone would win in a court for this? I really don’t understand how you think that special programs that are made to help us = reverse racism? If we were equal we wouldn’t even need these programs, if we were equal then everyone would have the money to sue, if we were equal, then we wouldn’t have had to sue to begin with. Just because there are some programs here and there that help us, doesn’t disprove systemic racism. Systemic racism is still very much valid.

“As for “Other things” minorities are more likely to receive government assistance in the way of housing, food stamps, child care, and disability pay. In fact, I can give you a personal anecdote to prove my point. My Mothers BF had surgery on his back and was unable to work for 3 months. In an attempt to collect disability for the months he needed to recuperate, he was told he would NEED to be out for AT LEAST 365 days to receive disability checks. He was confused by this because his coworker received disability for the 3 weeks he couldn’t work due to a broken hand. He brought this up and asked why it is different for him and the worker straight up told him it was because he was white. That coworker of his was also an illegal immigrant fyi.”

My only problem with these examples is that I really can’t say anything about them because I don’t have enough detail. Where did her BF work? What was his role? What were the circumstances? I don’t know. I also don’t want to get into the treatment of illegal immigrants, especially in agribusiness. What I will say is that more often than not, we are more likely to get assistance because we are more likely to need assistance. Again, this is because our races have been oppressed and forced to the bottom of this social hierarchy.

“Im sorry but that doesn’t seem like they are being treated justly by the government. As for “White people have always had the advantage when it comes to race.” I agree, especially with “had”. past tense. I have no advantages as a white. I am middle-lower middle class in America. I cannot afford to go to college yet I cannot get govt assistance because my mother makes too much money. Not enough to send me to college though. However, if I was a minority I would have no problems getting grants and scholarships and financial aid. I have to wait to apply for fafsa or student loans until I turn 24 this year so they no longer need my parent income info or a cosigner for loans. I am not advantaged. I get jobs based on my skill level and my work ethic, not my race. The current job I have, I got lucky bc I happened to know someone working here already. Before this I was at Walgreens with my mixed race fellow employees and my black female manager.”

You do have advantages as a white. Really you do. If it was a minority in your place, I can place my bets that they wouldn’t have as many opportunities as you do just by being white. If you are having problem getting grants or financial aid for college, I think it could be because of research. Now I don’t know if you did a lot of research or not, I don’t know what you’ve done to try and get help for college, so I’m not saying at all that you didn’t try hard enough or anything. You as a white person actually have more of a chance to get monetary scholarships than a minorities. I don’t know your grades or what you’ve done in school so again, I can’t say if you aren’t or are qualified for these, but I’m assuming if you do rather well in school, that you qualify for institutional, merit-based scholarships.

“Black people DO gain something from being racist. Note the newly segregated “safe spaces” and segregated housing that have been installed on certain college campuses. The fact that you and many others think black people can’t be racist. And if this racism continues, it will just be flipped opposite from the 50’s and 60’s.”

For as long as white people hold power in the United States, you can’t have a “flipped” version of segregation in the 50s and 60s. Safe spaces aren’t something “gained” for minorities. Does it help us get equal pay? Does it help us have equal chances in schools, homes, jobs, etc? Safe spaces were originally created to show people they can be themselves without discrimination, but it has changed recently. I don’t think it is right to have these, but we don’t gain anything from it as a group in our society.

“Racism is a system based on the fact that for example black people, have had disadvantages both socially and politically based off of the race they were born into. We do not have a racist system, systematic racism doesn’t exist in todays western society, as ive explained above. Our system is set up to help minorities. We had a black president for 2 terms, we have black members in all areas of our government. The only thing stopping minorities from succeeding is themselves.” ““There are three things a person needs to do in order to not be poor in America. Finish high school, don’t have kids, and get a job. Although I would also argue that now, you also need a two-year degree but A very large percentage of black people do not finish high school, have kids at young ages, and depend on government assistance to sustain themselves. They family dynamic is broken down and the father rarely stays with the mother. If you don’t finish high school your chances of getting a good job are very slim. If you are a single parent you ARE going to struggle financially. Lets not forget the heavy crime in the black communities resulting from low income and low education”

Our system is still racist, not fully, but still. Especially with the Trump Administration. Yes, we had a black president for two terms out of how many other terms? 43. 2/43 terms is enough for you to say our system isn’t racist? The fact that it took so long for us to be able to even have a black president should be enough evidence because many have tried to run for the position before. Yes we have black people in our government, but how many? Whites have always had over half of the government positions. This is just in the executive branch. This last sentence is what really really bothers me. Me as a minority myself can’t even begin to wonder how it is to think that it’s so simple to succeed in life. I can not comprehend being able to have that kind of privilege. You truly think that the only thing stopping us is us. That the only reason we don’t succeed is because we don’t want to or we don’t try hard enough? Wow. Really I don’t even know what to say.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/19/the-real-secret-to-asian-american-success-was-not-education/?utm_term=.da1ebde186ff

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/its-a-slap-in-the-face-when-white-women-wear-black-hairstyles_us_55c0c153e4b0b23e3ce3f27b?ebq08uxr=

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/reverse-racism-isnt-a-thing_us_55d60a91e4b07addcb45da97

https://www.dailydot.com/via/reverse-racism-doesnt-exist/

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http://www.colorlines.com/articles/study-white-students-more-likely-win-college-scholarships

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