#but he is NOT. zenos.
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ok. dawntrail opinions
Overall I enjoyed it! my expectations were met, which is about all i can ask for coming off of the arr-ew epic. I do think they had some issues trying to ‘recapture the vibes’ though. There are several points where things are introduced as direct analogues to things the wol has experienced (provided you’ve done the earlier expansions) when they should have been left as their own, new experiences.
The most obvious of this is Zoraal Ja being stated, in game, to be a Zenos-equivalent. Which he is NOT. Zenos would never think about the consequences of his actions that much, his point is he doesn’t HAVE a reason. he says himself in ew: ‘would you hate me less if I had a good reason?’ that’s zenos. he’s there to make you confront how you view morality in that sense: what’s a ‘good enough’ reason to commit atrocities? if there is a ‘good enough’ reason, what if someone decides the line is somewhere else than you do? Zoraal Ja could have been a neat parallel where he does have a ‘good reason’ for turning to violence, but this, and the other major interesting thing about his character (ie. his relationship to his father and adopted siblings) is completely glossed over, ignored, and unexplored in favor of keeping him just a super strong ‘unknowable’ enemy. he’s a zenos equivalent only if you understand neither characters beyond their very basic plot purpose and it pissed me off they’d make the choice to POINT THAT OUT in a game that’s kind of made a living on making you examine grey morality.
Similarly, the last quarter of the expansion was a direct parallel to the decision we make in late shb and ew regarding the ancients and stopping the ascians. I feel like they felt like too many people were sidestepping the fact that we made a moral choice at The Dying Gasp; ‘they’re already dead/they’ve made villains of themselves.’ In removing the timeline fuckery of elpis and solidifying the shades in the amaurot equivalent, the alexandrian plotline seems to try very hard to corner you on those fronts and impress upon you that while the correct decision is to fight for your right to exist, it is a heavy decision and you Are Destroying Things, other people’s potential futures, in doing so. Again, I think this was well done (having whole areas of pretty assets erased after like 2 questlines in each one? bonkers. props to them.) but it was SO close to the ascian plotline it started to get distracting. like. They have Cahcuia say the ‘remember we once lived’ line. I love her (favorite va of the expac too) but why would you do that. get my grandpas words out your mouth rn. dead serious. This was a time for discussing the difference between permanent, remotely stored ‘memories’ of the departed and the fallible but active task of having the living population remember those they’ve lost, but instead they just. again, ignored the new interesting thing and decided to make sure you remembered the major plot line of the major villains of the past 10 years. like i love my ascians but if you wanted to do that you could have had whatever minor ascian enacted the lightning calamity be around!!! fuck!!!!
anyway the people who think wuk lamat is lyse 2 are just straight up wrong tho. They are NOT parallels they have the exact opposite character arc What are you Smoking
#lyse learns how to put people above revenge#wuk lamat learns to grow a backbone to protect her people#they are not the same!!!!!#meg plays ffxiv#ffxiv#dawntrail spoilers#also…#sorry i’m still so upset about zoraal ja being stated BY THE GAME as a zenos analogue#THEY ARE IN NO WAY THE SAME they’re both interesting to be clear but they’re not the same#they’re only the same if you GROSSLY ignore the things that make BOTH characters incredibly captivating#also if ur like ‘when did the game say he was zenos’ if you click on alisaie during the pelupelu questline it’s one of her extra lines#she’s like ‘he reminds me of the prince..’#and considering the plot of dawntrail overall was ‘we’re going to speedrun the emotional beats of arr->ew’#he fits in zenos’ place in the timeline/fulfills the same general narrative role in that sense#but he is NOT. zenos.#hes zenos for people who don’t understand zenos that makes me upset understand zenos right now he’s interesting 🔫#ok i’m done
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poids
comparison with the original from last year:
#zeno's art#vocaloid#gumi megpoid#gumi vocaloid#gakupo#kamui gakupo#camui gackpo#why the fuq does he have so many alternative name spellings#anyway WOO im proud of these#with gumi i just wanted her to be as bug-like as possible#so her antenna and cape give her a bug silhouette#the jacket thingies also give a winged look#made her socks green too just to give more color variety#with gack i just wanted to simplify him a little and give him better shapes#and i made him buffer NO MORE TWINKS#ok im done#hope you likey. might redo my other voca designs or do the vocas ive never drawn
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In the dark you will not stray
#It's so funny to me how any time we get ardbert crumbs the whole community celebrates#Like when we get thancred cumbs me and the thancred girls are lapping it up#and im sure it's the same for the zenos girls and the aymeric girls etc#But ardbert?#Everyone is here to hype him up lmao#Like I don't think he's that many people's number 1 but he's in everyone's top 5 yk?#anyway actual tags#ardbert hylfist#ffxiv#ff14#final fantasy xiv#final fantasy 14#final fantasy#can I tag this Azem lmao#close in the distance
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Zenos for a Zenos-centric zine! Leftover sales begin October 18th 💖
#tried to capture the contempt he likely held for his father and nation...#i say 'likely' bc this was a while ago and i've forgotten many of my headcanons for the galvuses lol. i miss them...#anyway this was a spread! that's why the center is Empty 💃#(gaiaryne pls come save my artwork it's leaking aether)#ffxiv#ff14#zenos#zenos yae galvus
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probably the last person you want thinking that
#ffxiv#zenos yae galvus#ffxiv wol#geese art#ocs#oc: kiriltugh#stormblood kiril#context: kiril went absolutely fucking insane mode at the end of HW.#and he is. NOT. allowed to do that anymore unless he wants to come down with a case of Dying#so he’s been getting really good at like. managing his emotions 🥰#but ofc no one wants anyone to know that the WOL is kinda like. the weakest he’s ever been#so the rumors abt his rampage just kinda got turned into ‘yeah he’s that strong…all the time. all the time he is that strong’#which may have. deeply disappointed zenos at their first meeting#it’s okay :) he can fix him :) he can make him better :))
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Oh the little change in his expression
#YOU TELL HIM ALISAIE#It's like when the wol told him off on the moon#TINY ITTY BITTY little change in expression#and he's got no response to it and just walks off#Oh I LOVE HIM SO. HE'S WAY more complex than most people would think and I LOVE HIM FOR IT.#Agnes ffxiv adventures#endwalker spoilers#zenos yae galvus#zenos viator galvus#zenosposting#tagging for people who don't want to see me talk about him lmao i'm SO SORRY. I'M ANNOYING.#I love him so much.#He's such a fun interesting character - he really does deserve to get the Vegeta treatment.#redemption but he's still weird and cringe. but he learns to be better with time.#sorry but you all know that I'm right (unless you have bad taste.)#Zenos
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zenos, but he's getting spammed by his weirdly tech savvy great-grandfather.
#sketch#wip#ffxiv#zenos yae galvus#garlean communicators but some of them are just really sturdy flip phones#man's just trying to train in peace before his phone starts exploding#this is also spawned from me remembering how tech savvy zenos himself is implied to be lol#he can probably drive- he can pilot- and we've seen him fix/salvage one of the machines before-- im giving him a phone#but it's also just one of those “zenos is a self made prodigy” kind of things that I really enjoy#which makes the decision of dropping the old model of the garlean reaper in Ala Mhigo kinda funny to me#we really mightve just stolen this man's depression fixer-upper#(but also a little sad because it makes me think that he's tried --a lot-- of things trying to make himself happy and it just never worked)#theres probably a lot of things he knows how to do but just doesnt bother with them anymore
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redraw that's going around twitter but make it zenos
#zenos yae galvus#ff14#ffxiv#zenos viator galvus#I'm convinced he goes full lobster if left out in the sun#don't kill me tumblr its just a chest
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every time i go through the end of ew and see the cs with zenos in sharlayan i have to stop and imagine his conversation with that customs lady at the docks when she asked what his job was and he would have gone off on one of his typical monologues about living for 'the hunt, the THRIIIIIIIIILL of bahttle the raw pulsing ecstacy of being locked together in combat, teeth at each other's throats, giving in to the huungaahh that can never be sated' etc etc and she would have been like uh huh so you're unemployed hmmm i see
#ffxiv#ffxivmp#mp#zenos#writes on her clipboard: gay but in a cringe way#every zenos monologue is his self insert fic of him and the wol#and he is just going around giving free performances of it to anyone unfortunate enough to be caught near him#also this is why the idea of zenos surviving and being forced to help the scions is so funny#not his interactions with the scions#but his futile and begeudging attempts to live in a society#boy has to do paperwork and deal with bureaucracy and that is comedy gold potential
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Lots of art and like 1 shit post
#ff#ffxiv#sesame#Kaiien#I guess Zenos is there… he’s covered by Kaiien’s magic tho.. eh oh well#Zenos#saffron#mhm lots of art#and yet I still haven’t played the msq in a bit… I’ll get there !#anyways enjoy
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he is enjoying the sun ☀☀☀⛱⛱⛱😎😎😎
#ffxiv#ff14#zenos#ffxiv zenos#i miss him very much#zenos yae galvus#zenos viator galvus#i like to imagine he is vibing somewhere after ew and i hope to one day see him again#whatever yoship said during one of the liveletters about zenos can't hurt me bc i can't read#he should join me in island sanctuary tbh
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outfits ^_^
#zeno's art#ocs#reassassination#octavia krankenstein#this was pose + expression + outfit practice all in one#i've finally got her design down properly and can draw her from most angles now!!!#next up is KRANKENSTEIN he is SO FUCKING HARD TO DRAW
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i'll definitely cure you
#when he cooks 4 u#zeno spoilers#zeno remake#zeno game#zeno#zeno rpg#zeno aka#zeno kuro#rpg maker horror#maeno aki#tsugino haru#kuro#aka#zeno fanart#civettictis art tag
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We got a new emote to express our 🧡f r i e n d s h i p🧡
#ffxiv#zenos#heart emote#ffxiv fanart#zenos viator galvus#zenos yae galvus#digital art#fanart#valentines day#valentione's day#but he would probably confuse it with friendship day let's be real
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End of stormblood (It didn't stick and he got kicked out soon after)
#ffxiv#final fantasy xiv#zenos yae galvus#haurchefant greystone#ysayle dangoulain#papalymo totolymo#stormblood spoilers#they're watching everything happen through a screen#zenos did not last more than five minutes in there before being shoved back out the door#sorry wol he's unbearable
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I think it's SO INTERESTING to hear Zenos VA talk about Zenos
#He seems to really love the character and like I hope FOR HIM that we get to hear him in the game AS ZENOS again#Agnes ffxiv ramblings#endwalker spoilers#ish
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