#but STILL I SAY THAT IT'S LUNTER!!!!!

[homunculusalphonse]

as a tired bi, the way ppl go to my lunter fics just to tell me that they prefer interpreting my story as platonic feels like two things: 1) a big no homo sign right to my face, and 2) when ppl say that pink floyd doesn't actually have political lyrics bc they don't see it that way

[theprinceandthewitch]

For me, Hunter asking Luz to help him beat tf out of his grand uncle brother after he literally died and came back to life [with the added bonus of him looking like Caleb] JUST for the show to have him hold pinkies with Willow and not even be in the same room as Luz when she curbstomps Belos to actual death has the same exact effect on me as Zuko and Katara hooking up with different people at the end of ATLA even though they had the most romantic coded scene in the entire show minutes prior.

[itslilacmoon]

will you guys still love me if i make the occasional lunter shitpost

[perrypixel]

I'm angry bc when a lunter shipper says something about lunter the response is either nonexistent or "wtf they're siblings!" but when a zutura shipper says the same thing but about zutura ppl get it

[cherrymoonvol6]

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[sapphiresaphics]

I remember when The Owl House came out and there was INTENSE shipping of Amity and Luz. There were no other male characters Luz’s age, so the queer ship set sail. Then it was revealed Amity does in fact like Luz and the shipping exploded! By the end of season 1, Lumity was the most popular ship by far in the Owl House fandom.

But then Hunter was introduced in season 2. And the SECOND Luz and Hunter shared screen time together, suddenly there was intense hate and backlash to Amity even existing. Even when Amity kissed Luz and basically solidified them as the endgame couple of the show, there was INTENSE Lunter fanart and posting.

People’s reasoning was that Luz is bi and therefore she can like Hunter just as much as Amity. But it sure as heck didn’t feel like that at the time. As a lesbian in the fandom it felt more like people were trying to use Luz’s bi sexuality to straight wash the ships. And it felt very insidious since this was the first openly queer relationship Disney was allowing on the air. We finally got a queer wlw ship and people were trying to downplay it and take it over, using Luz’s sexuality as an excuse.

It felt targeted.

And it got BAD.

Every time Amity and Luz shared a cute moment together, someone would do re-draws of the scenes but swap out Amity for Hunter. And they’d deliberately tag the Lumity hashtag to force their ship into places it didn’t belong. For the longest time the Lunter hashtag was incredibly toxic and hateful towards anyone who called them out for this wlw erasure.

As the show progressed it became clear Hunter had a crush on Willow. And overnight the Lunter hashtag swapped to being Wintlow instead. They continued to do the same tactics as before, such as redrawing scenes of Lumity as Wintlow instead, but it thankfully stopped encroaching on the Lumity fanbase.

Still, to this day, if you search the Owl House hashtag you will find a disproportionate amount of Hunter X Willow artwork and fanfics.

I think of this whenever I see Jayvik fanart in the Arcane hashtag.

The number of people who are openly dismissive of Caitlyn and Vi and Mel being in relationships is staggering. Saying “whatever Jayce and Viktor had going on is gayer than Caitlyn and Vi!” is just as insidious as what the Lunter fandom was doing to Lumity.

We FINALLY got canon lesbian couples (not even bi, but full blown openly lesbian couples) in Arcane and all the fandom can talk about is Jayce and Viktor. A non-canon gay ship that dismisses Mel entirely and pretends like she never existed while denigrating Violyn because “Caitlyn is a cop and ACAB!”

I’m just so tired of this all. This dismissal of my sexuality and representation by the fandom hurts so much. And it seems to keep happening in every fandom that has a wlw ship.

I’m sure a lot of people aren’t even really aware they’re doing it either. Or they don’t feel like it’s a big deal. But after spending so much of my life YEARNING for canon wlw couples in animated shows, it’s disheartening to say the least how underrepresented we are.

[stanlunter]

What you favourite toh ship says about you

No judgement, just my opinion based on how shippers act and how I would feel if I were them. Pls let me know if I have forgotten something!

Lumity - you're glad you finaly got canon healthy wlw couple in a kid show and became obsessed with it. Also you like highschool romance trope and probably is taken.

Boschlow - you miss s1 Lumity potential and hate the way it was done in s2. Also you want Boscha to be your gf.

Boschamity - you miss s1 Amity and hate the way she was was done in s2. You believe deep inside Boscha is a good person, who has the same trauma as Amity and she could become better too if there was anyone for her. It's very likely that you're a bitch and used to have bitch friends who left you for some reason, but I can't judge you for it, cause I ship it too.

Willuz - you think Amity's arc was rushed. You feel bad for Willow, cause she was "separated" from Luz and Amity in s2 and think she became an ooc in s2 and miss Willow from s1.

Lunter - you think Lumity and Huntlow were written bad. "Highschool romance" is never your otp. You prefer classic (in any way). You're probably on aro spec or believe in soulmates. You and your crush always tease each other. You're good at keeping secrets.

Goldric - it started as a joke, but you don't think it's a joke anymore. When Huntlow appeared you realized you went too far to change anything. Also you just want to have more mlm couples in media.

Huntmira - it started as a respond to goldric shippers, but then you realized it actually has a great potential and their dynamic would be amazing.

Gunter - I haven't seen you, but I really hope you just want all good things for both of them and also think Gus is criminally overlooked.

Raeda - you're bigger than ship wars. Love between teens is overrated and love between adults is underrated. You love suffering and wanna be both Raine and Eda.

Gustholomule - you think it's extremely unfair that Gus doesn't have a partner.

Skasha - you love Boscha and want all the best for her, but you're fine with her being an antagonist and Amity being happy with Luz.

Skamity - for some reason you dislike Lumity, but want Amity to be a good guy and want her to be in healthy and equal relationship with someone who's like Luz. You probably don't really like Amity, but still want good things for her.

Odalador - you want Blight family to be actually good, happy and health family and I can't blame you for it. Also you wanna know more about Alador, Darius and Odalia's friendship in the past. You also think deep inside Odalia isn't as bad or at least want her to have at least some good traits.

Dalador - you really hate Odalia and want Alador and kids to be happy, but not with her. You also think Odalia was a third wheel in their friendship and, again, you hate her in all possible ways

Odarius - Im not sure if you're exist, but if you do, you just find them both hot and want them to fuck. If you also ship them with Alador as a poly ship, then you want them not only to fuck, but also to have some romantic stuff together. But if you're a straight girl, then you're probably just wanna Odalia in this ship.

Daraine - you think Darius as bi and you probably ship Daraeda too. Also you think Darius is underrated.

Amillow - Willow is your favourite character and you hate the way she doesn’t get enought screen time. You also think Amity's redemtion arc was rushed. You probably also had a close friend, who left you and you still miss them and wanna bring them back even tho they hurted you. You also probably still believe in aroace lesbian Willow.

Veenter - you don't exist, but you wanna rewrite toh cuz you see too much of wasted potential in it. Also you have a lot of headcanons about Vee and want her to have an actual role.

Huntlow - you enjoy Amity's redemtion arc and Willow's development. And Hunter is your favourite chatacter. You probably don't have a partner, but very want to.

Guslow - you believe that friends are always more important than a partner. You truly believe in friends-to-lovers and probably don't really believe in m/f friendship.

Amiter - you really love Wittebane and Blight lores and hate how they were revealed. Also you love forbidden love trope.

Veesha - you want everyone to have a partner. You probably also used to ship Tom x Janna and just love "Mysterious demon x a Human who like mystery and demons" trope and want Masha to be inckuded in a Hexsquad. Also you wanna know more about Masha and adore Moringmark's comics.

Veelow - you don't like Huntlow and think Willow should get a gf instead. You also can see this fragile simality between Willow and Vee, but can't explain it.

Bris - you love Bria and wish she ever appeared again

Brisha - you love both Boscha and Bria and think antagonists are more interesting than protagonists

[sepublic]

And can I also add what a relief it was that when they did the finale, the writers didn’t go the easy route and reframe Luz’s story as just an extension/resolution of the Wittebanes’? They specified it was her story, that Luz had her own wholly independent narrative and life starting with her parents that sometimes intersected with those white guys’, but in the end they were here to serve Luz’s narrative, not the other way around!

And having her meet the Titan instead of a Caleb flashback makes so much more sense because that’s her fellow MC’s father, that’s the setting, that’s a character Luz has been learning from since S1! And by emphasizing the Titan as existing well before the Wittebanes, and the conflict with the intergalactic Archivists, it just reiterates that there’s so much more to this world and story than those white guys.

This is relevant when one of them believes it’s all about him, only for Luz to say with silence she’s not here for him, wants nothing to do with him! Especially when you remember how the first special of S3 had two students talk to Luz and dismiss the constant focus on crusty white guys and suggest a focus on women instead. How nice is it to say that while those white dudes factor on some level into her story, that Luz can be fully appreciated and complete without them!

Like sorry Hunter didn’t really play a role in this finale but this isn’t about him, and given the fandom’s obnoxious obsession with those Wittebanes (this includes Hunter, he’s still related too), it’s refreshing to say the least. Because Wittebane fans like to treat Luz as just another Evelyn, a female character meant to show their white boy the way; They push for Lunter so they can talk about parallels to those white colonizers while ignoring and devaluing Willow over that cardboard cutout. Luz and Hunter intersect but in the end they’re not that important to each other, Luz’s arc works without Hunter!!!

And I’m grateful S3 was about Luz’s relationship with her actual parents and friends who she knows and cares about, not these dead white people. She’s not just here to discuss Caleb or Evelyn’s baggage, Luz doesn’t need to be Evelyn when Edalyn is there and takes over during that white guy’s death scene! Like it’s just SO good that Luz can maintain this independence and distance and even choose it on an in-universe level.

[roxannarambles]

posting snippet of a short lunter scene from my old notes because *shrug* I dunno I guess it's for the 2 remaining shippers who exist lol

'Magic 8 Ball'

She returned to sifting through Eda's trash collection, intent on finding something at least slightly interesting. She knew exactly what to pick when she overturned some musty pillows and found a pile of old toys beneath.

Grabbing the plastic ball with a grin, she turned and eagerly presented it to Hunter.

He took it from her and gazed at it curiously. The plastic ball was black with a white circle on top, and had the number '8' printed inside the circle. As Hunter turned it in his hands, he found there was a little screen on the underside of the ball. A blue triangle appeared inside the little screen, with words printed on it. Hunter squinted at it, looking terribly confused.

"What . . ."

He continued to examine the toy, turning it about, and then giving it a little shake, noticing the little gurgling noise it made. Luz watched as he continued to study it but ultimately surrendered, saying,

"All right, I give up. What is it?"

She took the toy from him and held it almost reverently, smiling.

"This," she said,

"Is a magic 8-ball! We are incredibly lucky to have come across such a rare and powerful artifact. This is one of the very few examples of a true magical talisman from the Human Realm."

Hunter narrowed his eyes, protesting,

"But there isn't any magic in the Human Realm!"

Luz pointed at him and said,

"Incorrect. To be more precise, there's almost no magic, but there is a little bit. Remember, things from the Human Realm occasionally leak into this realm; the reverse is also true. Remember what I told you about Vee? She found some old Hexes Hold'em cards to eat in the Human Realm. It happens sometimes!"

Hunter frowned. He relented,

"All right, that's a fair point, I guess. But what exactly is this eight ball, then?"

She held the toy aloft, saying dramatically;

"This is capable of telling you anything about the future! The only catch is you need to ask it a yes or no question. Once you ask your question you just shake the ball and it will answer yes or no."

Hunter sputtered,

"Wh-what?! That . . . that's impossible! Oracle magic doesn't work like that!"

Luz raised a brow and asked,

"Why?"

He crossed his arms.

"B-because! It can't be that simple. People train for years to be able to even catch a glimpse of a possible future. If what you're telling me is true, this thing is more powerful than all the most experienced oracle witches on the Boiling Isles combined."

"So you don't believe me."

He hesitated a moment, but then answered,

"No. It . . . it doesn't make any sense."

Grinning, Luz asked,

"How 'bout we test it then? Will that convince you?"

He still looked very wary but asked,

"How would we test it?"

Luz grabbed a junky old chair from the trash heap and upturned it so she could sit down.

"Simple. I ask it questions about something we already know to be true. If it gets them right, then it works."

Hunter made an unhappy mumble at her proposition, as if that wasn't a very convincing argument, but Luz was intent on continuing on as quickly as possible, so she could give him as little a chance as possible to actually stop and think about things.

"Okay! Question one! Is the name of our house demon Hooty?"

She shook the toy and turned it over, waiting for the little blue triangle to float to the top and reveal its answer.

"A-ha! See? It says 'Yes definitely!'"

Hunter rolled his eyes.

"That could just be random chance."

"Well, that's why we're asking more than once. Question two. Did Luz Noceda go through a portal and end up in the Demon Realm?"

She swished the ball about, knowing her bluff could be shot at any moment, but going for it anyway.

"It says 'yes.' Okay, question three . . . did we have griffin eggs for breakfast this morning?"

"Ugh, Luz . . ."

She turned it over and showed it to Hunter again.

"'It is decidedly so.' All right, is King the ruler of demons?"

She gave it a good shake and turned it over again, reading the answer out loud.

"'Very doubtful."

Hunter's brows inched up just a little bit, and his skeptical expression started to soften just a tad.

"Hmmph . . . you still could just be getting lucky. Or influencing its answers somehow."

Luz thought a moment and then said,

"All right, I'll ask it something only you'd know the answer to. Hmmm . . ."

She glanced at him with a silly grin and asked,

"Does Hunter think Luz is super smart and cool and funny and awesome and also really pretty?"

Hunter jerked in surprise, protesting,

"HEY!"

He reached for her as if he was going to snatch the ball away, but Luz's reflexes were quick and she bounded off the chair and darted away, laughing.

"What's wrong, I thought you wanted me to test it?"

He gave her an annoyed glare, but didn't say anything more, instead watching in suspense as she shook the ball and then turned it over.

When the little triangle drifted to the surface and gave its answer, Luz looked up to Hunter, shooting him an incredibly smug grin. She sing-songed,

"Signs point to yes~"

Hunter heaved an annoyed sigh and crossed his arms again, scowling. He grumbled something, but Luz didn't quite catch it.

"What?"

He repeated in only a slightly louder mumble,

"I said fine, maybe it actually works."

Luz was about to answer, but then she froze when she finally processed his words.

She blinked.

". . . uh."

[clownishstarfish]

Hunter x Hunter ships I personally don’t like

These are ships that are NOT supported on my page.

Edit: I have left my hater era… while I do not like these ships myself I won’t shame you for liking the legal ones. I am no longer present in ship discourse. I do not like these but I won’t stop others from enjoying them…. With that said please enjoy the LONG ass read.

Please note a couple things before reading.

1, I do not hate any ships for being WLW, MLM or NL (hetero) unless it’s the result of representation erasure (An example of this is in the Owl House Community. People ship Lunter and say that it’s ok because Luz is a canon Bisexual but it’s still WLW relationship erasure!!! I do not support Lunter btw…)

2, I’m gonna mention stuff like proshipping and toxic relationships so please be warned if you’re triggered by those types of things do not read under the cut

3, I’m also gonna talk about ships I lovehate due to having extremely mixed opinions.

Alright that’s all!! Enjoy your reading and please remember to respect my opinions and interpretations of the characters. This will also include spoilers for the entire animated series.

Killunary (Killua x Canary)

There are a couple reasons why I don’t like this ship but it’s mostly because of the power imbalance. Certain employee x employer ships just don’t work due to extreme power imbalance. The main example of this is the Zoldyck family and their abusive nature towards all the butlers, including how Kikyo treats Canary when she got close to Killua.

The other reason is because I see Killua as a heavily MLM coded character. And I’m sorry if you don’t agree but based on both his canon and non-canon interactions with the various women of the story, I don’t think he’s straight. I personally think he might be gay/vincian but it’s up to interpretation!! I cannot see Killua dating a girl. (This includes ships like KilluRetz and Killumane)

Hisomachi (Hisoka x Machi)

Again, Hisoka is a heavily MLM coded character with Machi being the only woman in the series he’s shown possibly romantic interest in. Hisoka himself is an extremely harmful stereotype of a gay man being overly flamboyant but also predatory towards kids and women. That is a stereotype that is shown and pushed VERY often with Hisoka. (If you do view Machi as WLW, which I do, she’s also a harmful stereotype of the mean, man hating, lesbian./lh)

Also the fact that Machi straight up rejected his dinner offer in the Heaven’s Arena Arc should be enough to push the fact that she doesn’t like him…

Edit: while Hisoka is MLM coded I personally see him as a pan man due to some random factors and just cuz I like it that way

Kuroneon (Chrollo/Kuroro x Neon)

Ok I only have like one reason but I feel like it’s validated tbh!!! He literally attacked her and stole her ability. And I don’t wanna go on a whole rant about Neon and her complexities rn but her nen ability, lovely ghostwriter, was essentially the only reason for her father to love her and care the way he did…

Also their age difference urks me ALOT cuz Neon is about the same age as Kurapika (17-19) and Chrollo is pushin 30… T-T

Kurokura (Chrollo/Kuroro x Kurapika)

A lot of people ship them because “lol omg enemies to lovers!!” But like. This isn’t that kind of enemies to lovers hun… :// Chrollo and the troupe literally massacred the Kurta Clan with zero mercy and left Kurapika alone and almost defenseless in an unfamiliar world. He destroyed everything Kurapika had. That’s not something Kurapika would or will forgive easily. Kurapika is literally destroying himself inside out because of what the troupe did to the Kurta Clan. This ship is just ugh it’s so toxic I hate >:(

Also again, even if Chrollo didn’t destroy the Kurta Clan, age difference. Kurapika’s the same age as Neon (17-19) and Chrollo is PUSHING 30!!!!! Icky!!!

Tbh this goes for any of the Troupe x Kurapika… gross age difference and disgusting enemies to lovers dynamic.

Pitokai (Neferpitou x Kite/Kaito)

One of my biggest icks ever is Victim x Killer because like how would YOU feel if you were violently murdered for seemingly no reason and then find out that there are people out there who think you and your killer would be cute if you dated O.O

Yeah it’s like… really toxic. I don’t have the energy to go into all the details of it but Killer x Victim has no reason to be as popular as it is…

Wisky (Wing x Bisky)

(I couldn’t find any GIFs of them from the movie so you get this still image)

Teacher x Student dynamics really ick me as well… in most but not all cases the teacher is somewhat of a parental figure and the student is very young, in most cases a minor!!! We don’t exactly know if Wing was a kid when Bisky taught him nen since she refers to most people younger then as kids but the idea that she was extremely influential in his earlier years and has that older adult figure role in his life makes the idea of shipping them just.. it makes my skin crawl tbh ^^|||

Also there’s a HUGE age difference with Bisky being 57 and Wing being in his early 20s.

Gingkite (Ging x Kite/Kaito)

Again w the teacher x student guys… the same reasons as with Wisky expect we know for a fact that Ging met and started training Kite when he was a teenager! Makes this extra icky.

Again with the age difference! Ging is in his 30s I think maybe 40s? And Kite is in his early 20s. Pretty big age gap!!!

Any incestous Zoldyck ships

The fact that I even have to state this… dude… c’mon…. Incest is NOT cool chat!!

Any ships between the siblings? DISGUSTING!!

Between the kids and the parents? GRODY!!

Between Zeno and his grandkids? OUTRAGEOUS!!

This isn’t even just limited to the Zoldyck family dude… Mito x Ging is a thing apparently…

Any Child x Adult

Again… why do I need to state this… shipping adults x children is WEIRD!!! And NOT OK!!!

Hisoka x Gon? GROSS!!

Killua x Illumi? DOUBLE GROSS!! INCEST IS ALSO NOT OK.

Killua x Machi? STILL GROSS!!!!

Please if you ship canon children with adults… please… just get off my page :^

Merupouf (Meruem x Shaiapouf)

Gonna be so fr w you guys… I used to ship this… i thought they were funny :’) I’VE RECOVERED DW!!! (/lh)

Uh yeah so the power dynamic is really erm!!! /neg I genuinely cannot go into detail about how toxic they are but I’ll try to summarize… Pouf has like a perfected version of Meruem in his head as the king but when Meruem starts to change for the better he rejects it and thinks he knows what’s best for the king and shit!!! Also Meruem treats his Royal guards like shit (at the beginning) their relationship gets only slightly better towards the end but it’s still abusive!!!

Also my friend pointed out that the Royal guards exist solely for Meruem. Like they are Meruem and Meruem only. Everything is for him and that adds like a super fucked up dynamic to this ship…

Also forgot to mention earlier, ANTCEST. All the chimera ants came from the same mom so shipping them is really weird even if they don’t all see eachother as siblings

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Ok so that’s all I can think of rn… please try to understand that this is MY interpretation and perception of these characters. It is ok if this is not how you see these characters, but it is how I see them.

[homunculusalphonse]

you know when steven tries to get into connie's favorite book series? imagine that but it's hunter trying to engage with good witch azura

[theprinceandthewitch]

Hmm... it's interesting how they made Luz wear a witch's cloak in Hunting Palisman - the episode where she introduces Flapjack to Hunter. This is also the episode where Hunter defies Belos by choosing Luz over him. He goes back to his palace empty-handed and he doesn't hand over Flapjack to Belos. Unbeknownst to Hunter, he is following Caleb's footsteps.

But then, in Hollow Mind, they made the choice to have Luz not wear her witches cloak - instead they made Luz wear a jacket with a giant "E" on it. They could have given Luz a completely different outfit like they did in Hunting Palisman. But they don't... they make her wear this specific jacket...

...They also make Hunter wear Caleb's symbol in Hollow Mind... an episode where Luz and Hunter are trapped in Philip's mind... where we can see paintings of the two most important characters in Philip's life - his brother and a witch from another world.

But I'm sure this is all unintentional.

You know, like this is:

oh, nbd, just a painting being paralleled with the scene happening right before our eyes

here's a more high def image of the painting

Oh, hmm, okay, this is a painting of Caleb standing next to a witch with short dark brown hair and who just so happens to be a witch from another world. Both of them are startled by Philip...

Hunter, the Grimwalker who looks the most like Caleb, is standing next to someone who ALSO just so happens to be a witch from another world with short dark brown hair... both are startled by Philip's monster form...

Hmm, must be unintentional I guess.

there's also this:

Mhm, okay, I see... I see, very interesting. Here we have Caleb being lead away from Philip by a witch from another world after the brother's have a fall out. This fall out marks the point of no return for them, as Philip later kills Caleb out of anger.

Hunter and Philip's relationship completely deteriorates because of Luz, which leads to Philip's decision to kill Hunter. She shows Hunter Belos' true nature and she offers Hunter sanctuary at The Owl House right after he finds out Belos has been lying to him his whole life... Luz saves Hunter's life and changes it forever.

Hmmm... very interesting

But I'm sure this is unintentional [I'm being sarcastic]

[rulerzreachf4n7]

Fight me all you want but huntlow/lumity antis are the weakest links in the toh community,

HEAR ME OUT...

...unless you don't have ears idk block the haters

SKIP IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN SHIPS WARS IT'S HONESTLY EMBARRASSING I HAVE TO SAY THIS!!

All this slander is coming from the goldric/huntmira/lunter/guster/amiter shippers, yes that's a mouthful, and yes I'll be blocking you if you're a toxic shipper, if your not, good! except if you ship amiter, fuck off you lesbianphobic bitch, anyways back to my rant, also sorry if this comes out as insensitive, rude, or if I sound over dramatic I just really hate these types of people

If I had a dime for every toxic shipper I've encountered since I first came into the toh community...BITCH ID BE RICH CAUSE SOME OF Y'ALL ARE WILD ASF 😭🙏, this is based off of a rant I got below this post so yeah credits to anon it was very helpful pookie

Y'all toxic ass shippers will go FUCKING PARAGRAPH LENGTHS TO DEFEND YOUR SHITTY SHIPS, and this is targated twords lunter and goldric, again, if you're not toxic this ain't for you I don't mean to offend anyone, cause tell me why there is this account on Pinterest, I ain't afraid to say their name it's something like TheGoldenCoven, or some shit like that, BROS A LUNTER FAN ACCOUNT 💀, and a toxic one too, dw I got some proof

How the fuck do you normalize the TWO MAIN COUPLE OF A SERIES??? Hunter was never intentioned to date Luz and vice versa, this is a perfect example of toxic a lunter shipper, and not only are they toxic they're...LESBIANPHOBIC!! I know it was probably from 2021 and they've moved on buuuut they did post amiter art, and they're not even a nice person although having in their bio "I'm nice you if you're nice to me" or some bullshit idk

As for toxic goldric shipper accounts I haven't seen any Pinterest or Tumblr accounts so that's good! But majority of the shippers are the most insufferable human beings on earth, their only excuse for shipping them is "they want a mlm couple and they're the same age" noting against wanting a mlm couple it'd be super nice...buy may I remind you this is post early season two...HUNTERS NAME WASN'T EVEN CONFIRMED YET 😭🙏, And let alone having only two or three minutes of screen time makes the ship have an even worse reputation, and the shippers are just bitchy and biphobic, always complaining that Hunter should be canonically gay instead of literally anything else so he can be shipped with only Edric, and I know huntmira shippers exist but I've actually never had an interaction with one, hopefully they aren't too bad

Y'all will come out withe the stupidest excuses not to ship huntlow/lumity, also sorry I got off track 😭😭, for lumity, don't know how it exists, but it's either "it's abusive" or "it's toxic" brother ew 💀, name one way Luz or Amity have hurt each other and DO NOT say it's by how Luz always makes stuff mess even though it's literally apart of her personality or by how she didn't wanna tell her about the portal door in S2 or how she accidentally helped Philip/Belos, I'll wait 😊, and I see the point of how Amity's personality downgraded to only being Luz's gf but she still did have her family problems but I guess they just didn't wanna make it an episode, I mean we got Clouds on the horizon that counts ig?

And for huntlow I keep hearing the same shit "I-Its a crack ship, I-Its forced, t-they have no chemistry 🥺🥺🥺" yeah I can see your toxic ass shipping a 12 and 16 year old together don't think you're slick bitch, and just because huntlow was rushed doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, you don't know if Dana had intentions on it but because of the cancellation it was forced to be rush, and I'm sorry to y'all hearing the shortened s3 excuse but it's true since there's literally no other explanation, also don't come into the comments saying "B-But you don't know that!!🥺🥺" it's just speculation my brother in Christ 😭🙏, merely a theory put together with brain cells which almost everyone in this community doesn't have, another weird double standard is how everyone ships gustholomule and veesha even though there's very little evidence it'll be canon was supposed to be canon but since it's a more noticeable and popular ship no one bats an eye for some reasons even though huntlow is too a popular ship, but these are the more bigger ones so I'll more obscure like cameda or aladarius which where probably never meant to happen and totally fandom operated

Anyways that's all, I'll block haters/toxic shippers in the comments so don't think you'll get a reaction outta me with some half baked and barely thought through argument you found in a Reddit post

[divinemiracles]

may i ask why lunter shippers often criticize and/or dislike lumity so much ─ as in, the pairing itself, not the fans? it's extremely frustrating because i'm a multishipper (lumity main, but i very much love lunter too) and i don't understand why the shipping war over which one "should be true canon" isn't just one-sided from biphobes/antis/etc., because i was always under the impression that was the case. i've only ever experienced the fandom mainstream and i'm still new to spaces where shipping luz with boys, especially hunter, is acceptable. i'm curious as to why each side has negative shit to say about the other as if their opinion is absolute. hell, i'm still confused by how much people passionately hate huntlow this bad for being boring and unoriginal at worst; if it's problematic for the age gap then surely lunter is too (rhetorical)? anyway, i hope this ask comes across okay and respectful enough. i read your blog's description and pinned post so i hope i can find some answers through you.

~ bi-ship

Thank you for being so respectful!

There’s many reasons as to why Lunter fans dislike Lumity as a ship. It’s mainly due to a difference in shipping taste or out of spite since a handful of Lumity shippers are toxic (I like Lumity, it’s cute, but I fall under the difference in shipping taste category).

Lumity and Lunter are two completely different ships. One falls under the cutesy, wholesome, loving couple (Lumity) trope and the other falls under the angsty, heartbreak, storyline, and lore-based (Lunter) ship trope.

Many Lunter fans are mainly in the fandom and watch the show for the lore and Wittebane brothers, which is why they ship Lunter (for the Evelyn/Caleb parallels). If Lunter was canon, TOH would be a completely different story and have the Wittebane family as a major key to the story. But with Lumity, the story doesn’t go much into the brothers and just has a cute loving couple.

That’s where most of the criticism comes from. Lumity isn’t a ship that’s there for the lore, it’s just there for sapphic representation and normality. Also, since it was the first Disney sapphic couple involving a protagonist, it would be difficult to add it into lore-based angst since it would probably be passed as “too toxic” or whatever. That’s why they’re so lovey-dovey. Keep in mind this is just a thought. Lumity is not toxic at all, they’re just a normal couple.

With Huntlow, Lunter fans mostly hate it and criticize it for being boring and unoriginal like you said. It was rushed a lot and could have been dropped since it didn’t bring representation or relevance (Willow was never confirmed as Evelyn and they were never in-show confirmed or coded as bi/pan. I headcanon them as such but all they ever had were popular color palettes). It also depends a lot on perspective. It’s toxic to some and not toxic to others. I have a deep hate for it just for the unoriginality (bad boy turns into malewife for the shy girl that turns into a girlboss) and irrelevance but I don’t actually view it as TOXIC toxic since in my viewpoint, it’s just two normal people pushed too hard into a malewife x girlboss ship. I don’t like how Willow does sometimes resemble Belos but she’s far FAR better and healthier than Belos.

To sum this up: Lunter fans often dislike/criticize Lumity and Huntlow for being lovey-dovey, unoriginal, and not relevant to the plot. It all boils down to a difference in shipping interest. None of the ships are actually toxic (it’s mostly just people looking far too deep into them) but some people can view it as such and that’s fine as long as no one gets harassed. We all have different views.

[gold-and-glyphs]

OK, this ask is totally random and out of nowhere bc I've been wondering as of late why ur art style seems so familiar. Feel free to delete or disregard this ask or whatever if I accidentally mistaken you for someone else, it's 100% alr by me lolol. ^

But it jus occurred to me that you're actually spinel-cord, the person who made the Moonlight lunter fic on AO3 and OHMIGOSH I STARTED FREAKING OUT BECAUSE I LOVED THAT FIC WHEN I FIRST LAID EYES ON IT AS WELL AS THE ART YOU MADE FOR IT TO BITS JSDJJDFJSJJKFDJ 💛💜

Your lunter rockstar AU was so. fucking. cool., and it's like one of two huntceda fics on the archive that first got me into this ship (I was exclusively shipping lumity/huntlow at the time before having a change of heart and then actively getting into toh multishipping + lavender winter)! I remember commenting before that I wanted to make fanart of it bc I loved it and couldn't stop reading it over and over. A small part of me hopes that you're able to continue it someday but, that being said, it's totally chill if you don't want to! You've improved a lot on ur art journey and I wouldn't have it any other way if you find yourself content w/ where you are at now :'] <3

I don't have a tl;dr for this message (unfortunately), if I love something I have to flipping say it asap, upfront, no filter! If I'm not going to die from my chronic illness irl then I am most certainly going to. legitimately. die happy from seeing how talented all of you guys are <3 like GAH I just love you ppl and this fandom sm, no cap, I sware 😭

WHAT THE HECKKK THIS IS SO SWEET OMFG

First off, YES I am indeed spinel-cord!!! I changed my username a bit ago because I don't like sticking with the same name for too long lmao

Secondly, I'm so glad people liked and still do like that fic!! I just can't look back on it without cringing hfhfjf I don't really think of myself as a writer and that fic was completely for the fun of it hahah

As of right now I don't have any plans to continue it, BUT if it's any consolation I have been wanting to draw more art for my AU's and will probably get around to doing that soon! Plus, I have another fic in the works for another AU of mine ;) (I'm just struggling to find the time/energy to sit down and write it rn)

If you ever do make fanart please PLEASEEE tag me I'd absolutely love to see it!! Thank you for your kind words, I appreciate you soso much! <3

[the-owl-house-takes]

i came across your account and i notice the takes about the ship, but as a bi latine myself, shipping luz and hunter is NOT problematic at all. them being siblings is not canon and pittwins is just a popular headcanon and it does not mean you have to force that headcanon to everyone. i know what luz meant during that scene bc it’s so common in latine culture to call someone family that isn’t related. a lot of black and latine fans spoke up about this and majority of you just silence us and also keep in mind, the show is literally about found family!!!! you know which sibling is canon?? luz and king bc king literally called luz his sister on screen (king’s tide) and see her both as a friend and a sibling, but i don’t see many of you talk about that (and it’s ridiculous that titanlights (duo name for luz and king) is not even much talked about when they both are the main characters and have actual sibling dynamic). “ppl try to make luz and hunter straight” “shipping a bi girl character with a guy makes it alot harder to confirm them as bi” that is so biphobic to say and i saw your other comment that you aren’t bisexual so what do you know what makes it harder for us? you know what makes it harder to be bi? erasing our sexuality and always have to prove our identity by dating the same gender. we deal with internalized biphobia to prove our sexuality when sexuality is about attraction and not your dating history. we don’t have to date the same gender to prove to be bi. ppl are just erasing luz and hunter bisexuality (even eda) and that does not surprised me by how biphobic the fandom is, a lot of you don’t acknowledge bisexuality at all. also, it would not be “sapphic erasure” when luz herself is sapphic bc she’s bisexual, we are still sapphic when dating men or other genders. you’re the one doing that sapphic erasure by erasing and not acknowledging luz bisexuality. luz was also liking guys in the show, she was blushing on edric and even flirting with nevareth, are you going to say that’s “sapphic erasure” too?? 😭 i really need ppl who are not bi, black and latine to not silence us and speak over us, bc it’s tiring by how many times we have to say about this. bisexuality isn’t to be used as an aesthetic or something, it’s a label. im not even a lunter/huntceda shipper, im a big lumity shipper but as a bisexual latine, im so tired with the biphobia. lumity is canon in the show, huntceda or any other ship is not going to take that away. ppl have no problem with shipping luz with other girls (ex: willow) but when it’s with guys, it’s a problem. in fact, it makes me feel valid to see ppl acknowledge bisexuality and shipping her with other genders (that is not problematic ship of course). it’s also an experience of mine i had as a child when i ship characters with other genders and helped me discover my sexuality and feel comfort and valid.

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