#buffy and angelus

[angelus2hot]

This years celebration of the wonderful Angel episode I Will Remember You is open at https://iwry-marathon.livejournal.com/130386.html

Stories must center around Buffy/Angel, or Buffy/Angelus. Any length, rating or genre is acceptable, but stories must be completed and standalone. Feel free to ask any questions here or feel free to pm me at any time.

Please won’t you join in for thirty days of… “I’ll never forget.”?

[ozcarr]

Every time I remember this specific box set design exists I laugh so hard I cry

[praypanic]

BUFFY/ANGELUS + "LOVER" 2.14, 2.18, 2.19, 2.21, 2.22

[phantomstatistician]

Fandom: Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Character: Buffy Summers

Sample Size: 14,801 stories

Source: AO3

[kpchrs]

[thequeenofsastiel]

I keep thinking about how Angel was snarky in 5x11 of ATS regarding the fact that Spike having a soul had made no difference in his personality. Because that MUST have been weird to him. Getting a soul deeply changed who Angel was. So much so that he considers himself to have an entirely separate person inside of him. He probably never imagined that it would be possible for a vampire to acquire their human soul and have the exact same personality. It honestly probably fueled his resentment of Spike. Dgmw, Spike was definitely aggressive towards him, which didn't help, along with the fact that Spike and Buffy shared romantic feels, but I think Angel must have hated the fact that Spike's personality was the same. The only thing that changed was that Spike's desire to be evil was gone. And of course there's the fact that Spike went and risked his life to recover his soul because of how much he loved Buffy. All of that probably made Angel feel inadequate. Why was it that Spike was capable of loving Buffy without a soul while Angel couldn't? That must have haunted him. I wish we'd gotten to see more of that. I wanted to see more of Angel's inner turmoil about Spike in relation to his soul. And in general I wish both shows would have spent more time analyzing why Spike's personality only slightly changed.

[bloodraven55]

one of the hardest lines in tv history

[whatisyourchildhoodtrauma]

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER | 2.14 - “Innocence”

[witchb1tches]

[ashmaenas]

Unfortunately, sometimes misunderstandings can lead to complications developing later down the line.

[sunny-rants]

Toxic Cunty Throuple

Messy Wholesome Throuple

[angelus2hot]

IWRY Marathon

For those of you who are wondering (and thank you for the questions) IWRY Marathon was originally created by leni_ba on her livejournal in 2004.

In 2006 the livejournal community iwry_marathon was created. It was run by Chris and then DS. The sign ups have always been on livejournal with authors sending in their fics to be hosted on a separate site.

In 2014, I stepped in to run the iwry_marathon. Sign ups for the original I Will Remember You Fic Marathon are still on the iwry_marathon community on lj.

The fics have been hosted on AO3 since 2014. After talking to several authors they all wished to control their own fics and how they were posted and felt AO3 was the best option.

Sign ups: https://iwry-marathon.livejournal.com/130386.html

Fic submissions: https://archiveofourown.org/collections/IWRY2023

And as a reminder any length (from 100 word drabbles and up), any rating or any genre is acceptable, but stories must be complete. And you can post/submit more than one story. Feel free to ask any questions here or feel free to pm me at any time.

Won't you join in for another 30 days of "I'll Never Forget"?

[hauntedorpheum]

ok but we seriously needed more episodes about versions of the main characters as vampires. Vampire Cordelia could have been so much fun! Vampire Tara would have been sooo tragic and terrifying. Vampire Giles would have been a good way to explore more Ripper Giles. Vampire Faith trying to turn Buffy. Vampire Dawn!!!!!!!

[lovebvffys]

Buffy Meme: [4/4 Villains] Angelus

"Passion is the source of our finest moments; the joy of love, the clarity of hatred, and the ecstasy of grief"

[juniperhillpatient]

I have talked about this a lot before but it’s on my mind & also it’s something that really should be discussed more in Buffy fandom -

People are constantly talking about how Spike defies all the rules Buffy was taught about demons & vampires & rightfully so. A vampire falling in love with a slayer & fighting for his soul for her is such a romantic notion & I do love it but the nuance of Spike’s arc is even more interesting than that! He does love Buffy but not only that he befriends the Scoobies too. He brings flowers for Joyce after she dies. He helps prove that Tara is not a demon when her family tries to gaslight her & isolate her. He becomes a pseudo big brother to Dawn.

And yet none of that is even what I’m here to talk about! Spike IS a hero & he does have a long spanning redemption arc before the soul (& we’re NOT here to talk about Seeing Red right now, as usual that topic is too expansive & requires its own post) that should be acknowledged & his character is rightfully praised but he is NOT the only exception to vampires having nuance & it drives me crazy that we act like he is. The Judge isn’t just talking to Spike when he says this:

“You TWO.” He’s talking about Drusilla too! He says that they share affection & jealousy. That Angelus in his total sociopathic lack of human emotion is the odd one here.

Then you have things like this -

Conversations with Dead People has Buffy sharing a very long & deep conversation with an old acquaintance turned vampire. And it’s far from the only example in universe of a vampire retaining some sense of camaraderie with people from their life!

That’s right this entire rant has been a lead up to talk about my best girly Harmony Kendall. You’ve fallen for my ruse if you’ve read this far muahaha! Admittedly Harmony’s strongest moments are mostly unfortunately on Angel but even in season four of Buffy when she dates Spike she is clearly intended at times to be sympathetic. Season 4 is also interesting because we see a lot interactions between various gangs of vampires like Harmony’s so-called minions & even Sundays gang where they’re very much evil but also sharing in living (existing?) space & acting like bickering roommates or siblings. Like creatures with bonds & personalities & intricacies.

The point I’m trying to make is that the show never truly wants to grapple with the existence of Spike in all his nuance but it’s also not just about him! In general there is so much to grapple with in the idea that vampires can change & be redeemed & I’m not saying I’m anti scary evil vampires I’m just saying the universe gave us these hints of nuance & then the characters never grappled with it & that’s lame. For Buffy killing things that have a shot at redemption however small would be a major emotional blow if she ever addressed it! Especially in her season 5 “am I just a killer 🥺” arc. Let’s deal with the implications!

Let’s deal with Xander’s trauma about killing Jessie & just how much it would/should hurt for him to see Spike increasingly choose good & work with the Scoobies. I would LOVE to know Xander’s reaction to Harmony’s arc on Angel or Cordelia befriending her & letting her go ina world where the writing acknowledges that he drove a stake through his best friends heart!

It’s just that the writers accidentally complicated their own lore & then totally refused to ever let their characters address what the cracks in the stories they tell themselves mean. Giles says that a vampire is no longer the person but instead the thing that killed them. What’s scarier: the idea that your loved one was killed & something wears their face like a mask OR much more insane (to me) the idea that your loved one came back very wrong but it’s still them? Your brother eats people now but he still remembers how you like your eggs & can quote every episode of the cartoon you watched as kids. Your mom murdered that woman from the PTA who always talked too much in cold blood but she still remembers the recipe for your favorite pancakes. The show wanted scary vampires but it got so caught up in never addressing the infinitely more complex & scarier vampires it accidentally created & sticking to the more simplistic initial idea that it did both the characters & lore very dirty. And I’ll never shut up about it!!!

[juicysnoop]

watched like 7 seasons of buffy in half a month something is wrong with me anyway ... him