#bts pitchfork

[lover-of-mine]

BTs: Buddie is NEVER happening. We know that for FACT. those poor BOBS have NO IDEA what’s coming for them.

*a journalist writes an article about buddie*

BTs: THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS INJUSTICE. GRAB THE PITCHFORKS! GRAB THE TORCHES WE WILL SEE THIS PERSON UNEMPLOYED ASAP *insert slurs and expletives here*

Literally everyone else: 👁️ 👄 👁️ are….are you guys unwell….?

Right???? Like, the thing that kills me in this situation is the fact that it is an opinion piece. It's not like it's an interview where they are being biased about anything, they are writing an opinion piece about a ship that is very popular right now because Ryan is getting a lot of exposure and Bucks already bi. And they just lost their fucking minds. They behave like they are overanalyzing every little bit to pretend there is a ship when they are literally the canon ship. Like??? What???? Like, we all know it's not gonna last, but as of right now, that's the canon ship, why are they like this???? That's their only defense and they don't act like it.

[soraviie]

their flaws.txt

━ type: bts x gn! reader ━  masterlist

━ about: angst! ━ pictures taken from Pinterest

━ a/n: requested by anon! These are as accurate as any vibe check I give to strangers, I'm fairly sure I can do more realistic tea leaf readings! So put your pitchforks down!

━ previously posted on soraviii

NAMJOON:

absolutely passive aggressive

sometimes when stressed (which is not that unoften)

sometimes when jealous

but definitely dampens your spirits by giving a very dry, sarcastic "awesome" to some harmless questions

if you have ever seen a single American interview you know exactly what I'm talking about

If he's jealous of someone who he knows he shouldn't also does this

Especially if you're talking about them

Say like a coworker or a neighbour who was helpful or funny

He goes like "well aren't they just the greatest person ever! I'll gift you a mini fridge at your wedding."

Then stomps away

I feel like he's a stomper

Always comes back, gently knocking on the door and apologising for his behaviour

And he is ashamed of it because dumping all the bottled-up anger is not something any partner should do but occasionally it does happen

People are not perfect

Also tends to, how to explain, be too decisive about your decisions

Say you consult him on what to do

And he has decided on option A because that's what he would do he doesn't listen to option B

Even if it's the one you're more partial to

Which is fine

But then he goes and does the thing of "well if you want to fail completely and face the consequences of the wrong decision, please go ahead"

He has a bit of a problem with micromanaging given the line of work, being a leader and undercurrent of care

He wants you to succeed but it just comes off as such a high horse it makes you want to choke him

Speaking of jealousy has his episodes

You'd think he has nothing to be insecure about but he has a lot of them

Sometimes he thinks he doesn't look right

You know how he at times mentions not being the best looker

Which is...Mr Kim, check your prescription, please

But most of all gets insecure about the way his career impacts you and your relationship

There are other people who can give you all this love and share it freely

So he works himself into a tight little ball of stomach ulcer and then as a defence becomes passive aggressive

It's a bit of a cursed cycle

Rolls! His! Eyes! With! A! Deep! Sigh!

Especially when you're arguing

Which for me is an open-arm invitation to tear someone a second, a third or whatever number hole, it'll be new for sure but hey I've got anger issues

Fairly emotional in the moment, he can get loud and assertive

Cause I think he's used to partially bulldozing his way through

Luckily though someone so keen on self-improvement will genuinely try to fix these flaws, listen to your arguments and objections

But once again no one is perfect

YOONGI:

Because I'm a Yoongi stan I might be biased

I am biased

But I think he hides his flaws well by pulling back

Like if he wants to snap he knows he can ruin a good thing in his life so he bites his tongue

With that out of the way

He is reserved

He does spend a lot of time on work

He doesn't know how to relax

He will lug his equipment everywhere and anywhere

Even if you beg him to relax for just three days, he just can't

Sometimes relies on drinking too much to get him through the week

He has a knack to prove someone wrong

It's a knee-jerk reaction mostly

Say, your friend that he does not particularly like would say something incorrect, he'll pipe up from his corner in an extremely arid tone

"Hmm, funny you should say that, because blah blah. Guess ignorance is not that hard of a burden to bear."

Sometimes he expects you to read his mind

Let's say he's saying with his mouth "I want to stay home" but he actually wants someone to drag him outside but also he wants to complain about it the whole time

But because people can't read minds you leave him be

And then he's left to sulk

You're going to have a hard time if you're a person who enjoys going outside, actively being involved in things

Because even if he does it, he does it simply because of you, not because he wants to

And it's just so apparent that he does not want to be here that in the end it just ruins the whole thing

Speaking of, he sometimes goes along with things he doesn't want to just because acts of service is his love language but sometimes it's better to just state it outright that he doesn't want to instead of lying

Doesn't want surprises that interfere with his schedule and work even if they're well-meaning

Clearly wants to say "I told you so" on some occasions and be smug about

If only he could hide it better

Can diss you, your friends and your family with a throwaway remark that he didn't think much about it just ends up cutting deeper than he ever thought

I think he can be careless? in a way when you're sick

For example, if you're feeling bad and you just want to whine and be catered to he could just call you and say take your pills and that's it

Doesn't exactly coddle you in a situation like this because that's what he would do himself

But he's not a bad listener so there's a fine chance that over time he'll be at a middle ground with these issues

JIN:

Doesn't always understand when he needs to be serious

Sometimes he needs to be sad, sombre and depressed for the occasion

But he has a hard time breaking out of that jokester role

So it can come off as ingenuine and shallow

Occasionally you want someone to just ask, give a serious question to which you could seriously answer, to get all those feeling out and not just make endless jokes which give no opportunity for deeper discussion

Talks about himself a tad too much

I could see how someone could get tired of it, even if it's self-depreciative

If you're mentioning how you don't feel pretty, he could misconstrue it as just the occasional thought everyone has not something he needs to assure you about

"Don't worry," he might say with a light chuckle but the gap in your chest is on the opposite quite heavy. "I'll be handsome enough for two."

"Yeah, you're perfect," you scowl and walk away, hands in pockets

I think he can sometimes unintentionally create this disappointing pang in your heart

That you're not heard enough

That he doesn't want to engage in a deep, philosophical discussion

Because that is not something he's partial to

This could mean you turn to other people to talk about your problems

And he becomes huffy

"What? Am I not...good enough?" he asks, defensive

"Not in this case."

And it creates this stifling situation where no one is at fault and yet is right in their own way

It's your right to want to converse about this

And it's his right to remain true to his nature

I don't think he knows how to change himself manually so to speak

Jin always strikes me as the guy who changes by naturally maturing and by experience not by putting out a list in his head "this is what we fix, this is what we do"

But also this jokester role is exactly that - a role

He's not as cheerful deep down but he's not used to sharing it openly

He's used to diffusing the tension, not creating it

HOSEOK:

I think a large portion would say that it is Yoongi who struggles with shyness and intimacy and communication but it is my humble opinion that the absolute hardest to get to know is Hoseok

He's very supportive of you but is almost dismissive to receive any compliments

It's like he's not able to comprehend how to accept his faults

Already so soon after releasing "Jack in the Box", he said he was already looking for setbacks and flaws

I think it can be discouraging to have your compliments and praises brushed by with a polite smile and nod of the head that clearly says "I don't believe anything you just said"

He's so overly critical over anything he does and is so obstinate about being even...cheered up about it?

I think at this point it's how he's wired - to reach for new heights by stepping down upon the old ones

But it can be depressing to see someone you love continually tear themselves down

Another absolute workaholic has every minute of every day planned down and scheduled and someone really grave needs to happen to break that schedule

Bad at intimacy

I've always said it but a relationship with Hoseok to me is the kind where you're with a friend first and foremost

He's better at handling friends than lovers

Struggles to communicate his side of things

He listens more than talks

Absolutely intentionally directs questions at you so you would talk about yourself (which is what he wants to hear) instead of talking about himself

He thinks of himself as your silent glue, keeping your shit together but not voicing any of his sentiments over it

Again, many would say Yoongi but I think it's Hoseok that's independent to a fault

Like a little helper rushes to do what he needs to but accepts no help

Brushes off with a smile that it's no worry, that he can do it himself

Getting to know him means hitting a giant fortress over and over again

So it's very frustrating but once every while he breaks and lets it all out

What matters is that it is during this you try to convince him as hard as you can that it's okay to share and not scheme everything out like a lone mastermind

JIMIN:

His best qualities are also his greatest flaws

Meaning he cares about everyone

And so gets caught up in other people's problems

More than once has come late at night because "a friend needed help"

Worries a lot about everything

If you're not in a good mental state or prone to sickness and negativity he at times makes it worse by constant nagging and frequent anxiety

Also his greatest quality - never leaving anyone behind

Hence why he has problems with giving space

He thinks he's abandoning you when in reality you just want to be alone with your thoughts

Has a bit of a temper

And does hold grudges if they have a reasonable basis

Say if in anger you say something hurtful about his personality

He'll remark sharply about it even weeks later

"Guess I'm just too clingy."

Another stomper

Takes things a bit too personally that are not even meant for him

If you don't share something from your past especially bad or traumatic he'll have this knee-jerk reaction of:

"So you don't trust me enough?'

Needs attention and praise which can be draining

Especially when you just give it and then he goes on to be extremely self-critical and brings himself down once more

Another roller of the eyes!

Gets stand-offish when jealous or irritated making sharp comments

This stems from him being sensitive because his good quality is how big his heart is only meaning that he gets it hurt a lot of times

Sometimes you think he's acting cute when he wants to be serious

Like he just wants you around to the point of reverting back to people-pleasing tendencies and playing along to your whims more than being his genuine self

Flirts with everyone which creates two bad scenarios:

Scenario A: did it on purpose thinking of it lightheartedly to have that validation that you want him but if you feel it to the point of being insecure he gets quiet, suffering from guilt

Scenario B: get annoyed especially if it's when he's working

"It's just how I have to act," cue roll of the eyes. "Do I blame you for making photocopies at work?"

"Suggesting to marry a stranger is not the same as making photocopies!"

"It's a part of my job, what's not to get?"

Same as Yoongi sometimes relies too much on drinking to get through the week, or start difficult conversations

I feel like he internalizes a lot and doesn't voice something that might start an argument even if it's needed

Of course, bottling it up only means the fight is so much catastrophic

Always comes back with this thought that "this is not right, let's fix this, okay"

TAEHYUNG:

Romanticizes relationship as a whole too much

Maybe even romanticizes you to an extent

But when reality gets to him, he shuts down

Gets disappointed in you which is not your fault

He realizes you're not at fault for not being the version he constructed but he can't chase the feeling away that quickly

Switches moods a lot and from 100 to 0 at that

Prone to getting into moods a lot of days

I think he feels intensely

Also prone to judgment

now HEAR ME OUT

He has to be on guard literally all the time, assess whether someone talks to him out of personal gain or because they want to

So even if something, something as minuscule as a stray glance tickles his gut feeling, he trusts it entirely and so sometimes casts a judgment upon a perfectly normal stranger

"Come on, man, they're just living their life."

He only scowls in return

His kidlike nature means he's bad at taking criticism, he's also sensitive to it due to getting a lot of hate for everything he does

So instead of simply listening to it objectively, he lets it get to his heart and pouts in silence

THE SILENCE!

Not to mention the infamous dumpling incident, but I just know he commits to silent treatment like no one else

Has a hard time admitting his wrongs as much as he wants for both of you to make peace

He's down to earth but does get caught up in glitz and glamour

Fancy events, designer things, celebrity lifestyle etc.

If you don't enjoy that or even have a hard time with that he can once again get upset about it by immediately taking it close to heart and translating it to you being dissatisfied with him despite it being another matter entirely

I guess in a way he's bad at controlling his emotions and goes with them and gut instinct than pure logic

Has a lot of friends with which he wants to spend a lot of time means sometimes he's out too long for your liking and sometimes cancels plans to be with them rather than you

Which is fine but he does feel unhappy if you do the same thing

If you cancel date night to go out with your friends he doesn't say it but he might think something along the line "I already have so little time to spend with you, you can always talk to your friends at any other time"

His "go with the flow" can induce anxiety if you're someone who likes to plan

The way he remains calm and happy would could cause someone a migraine fr

Like me

The way he got lost in Norway and he just hopped along the road like?? Boi, you're not Dorothy on Yellow Brick Road!

Sometimes his casual optimism seems careless and childish as good-natured as it is

JUNGKOOK:

First of all, certainly doesn't have the best gage on people

I'm not going to say much as I feel I can't express it in a well-worded manner

But cuts too much slack to people based on a general opinion that often is quite biased

Always assumes that what he's going to say will be viewed as awkward so he stays silent in most cases

Is a bit spoiled so throws a fuss when he doesn't get his way

Has lowkey, lowkey!, issue with control

Because he's so driven I feel he's used to settling on a certain vision and then doing it all to achieve it

So if you're someone who changes directions mid-way or realizes this is not interesting to me at all and abandons it, his vein bursts

He changes his behaviour around the people whose approval he wants so it makes him a sort of a social chameleon though not necessarily a people pleaser

Brushes off all concerns about his health with "I know better"

"I've been doing this a long time, I know what I'm doing"

When clearly this behaviour is detrimental to his health

And to add salt to the injury will absolutely flame you if you do that as well

If you're being a hazard to your own health - not eating, cutting sleep etc. goes berserk and literally scolds you as being childish and irresponsible even if he does exactly the same

His perfectionism creates churning anger and envy

Which I don't think he would dump upon you but instead he becomes reserved and distant, investing more and more time to prevent a flaw that is perceived only in his mind

He still sometimes finds being alone with you awkward because in his mind he's not embodying his on-stage persona - cocky, confident and sexually bold - and so you must be disappointed in him

In turn that only makes his awkwardness and shyness a hundred times worse because now he's insecure about it as well

Is not keen to go out or enjoy "high" culture the same as Yoongi but instead of going along, he'll whine incessantly about whether it's necessary for you to go because he knows he's not going and sticks to it

Jealous and possessive which doesn't translate to being angry or loud but more so whining and scowling

But sometimes even that is not appreciated especially if the person involved is clearly just a friend

He sometimes doesn't quite register when he's being mean or when his playfulness crosses a line

Sometimes naturally expects you to accommodate him more than you're willing because that's something the guys have done due to their endless soft spot for him

So if you stay firm he sulks and becomes moody

© soraviii/soraviie 2022-2023

[jwirecs]

RECOMMENDED ROYAL AU👑

hello, hello! here are my royal au - bts, nct, svt & txt recs! hopefully these beautiful stories get more recognition as well as the writers💝

requested by anon (unfortunately, i wasnt able to find a lot. so far i havent read any skz or atz royal fics. but these are the ones that i’ve enjoyed so far and are either already reblogged or in my drafts!)

** anything in parentheses and bolded are my thoughts that can be disregarded if needed **

🔞smut || 💔angst || 💕fluff || ✅completed || 🔄ongoing || 💯favorite

The Crown That Is Ours || @taeshobipop​​​​​​🔞💕💔✅ (taehyung x reader)

↳ You never wished for it, but it was inevitable — an arranged marriage to a royal stranger. The Crown Prince Kim Taehyung. A year into your marriage and life still holds you firmly in its grip. How do you plan to steer through this mess when the public suddenly comes knocking at your door, pitchforks and torches in hand, threatening: “death to all who commit fraud!”

It’s A Royal Order || @alluringjae​​🔞💕✅ (jaehyun x reader)

↳ one of your royal campaigns became a success, and your bodyguard jaehyun was there to see it all happen. it’s only fair to celebrate, right?

Asks || recommended fics✅ (various x reader)

↳ (just an ask that was asking for royal recs and @eliphant​ was blessing us with some of their fav royal fics!)

Heir || @smileysuh​​​🔞✅ (mingyu x reader)

↳ As a princess, you’d grown up knowing you’d marry a prince and help him sire a number of adorable little royals. Truth be told, one of the things that had drawn you to Mingyu had been the way he’d interacted with his young cousins, children that would run up to him- and despite his princely stature, Mingyu always had time to entertain them, with a glint of adoration in his eye that had convinced you he was the one to marry- moreso than any of his older brothers.

I Found Love In Your Smile || @wonlouvre​​💕💔✅ (wonwoo x reader, also arranged marriage au)

↳ falling in love with wonwoo never felt so easy. however, when unforgivable truths test your relationship, you can’t help but think that maybe you were betrothed for all the wrong reasons.

Pomegranates || @idyllic-ghost​​ 🔞💕💔✅ (wonwoo x reader, also arranged marriage au)

↳ you, a princess from a doomed kingdom, have been arranged to be married to an heir of a much more prosperous kingdom. however, when you first visit them, you realize that you would much rather be with the heir's younger brother.

Saturn Without Rings || @dropsofletters​​​​ 💕💔✅ (wonwoo x reader, also arranged marriage au)

↳ wonwoo has had kingdoms, romances, endless studies, recognition and yet, with as much knowledge he has learned from life and books, he can’t figure out what it is that grows in his chest whenever he looks at soonyoung’s fiancé. the marriage is arranged, close to happening but not disclosed, and he knows the best and worst parts of her. she doesn’t like reading books, can’t speak in public and…how had the queen thought that it would be a great idea for a news reporter and a prince to get married? maybe, if that ring didn’t rest on her finger, things would be easier. for now, wonwoo will have to pretend life is easier with a new friend.

The Dark Prince || @etherealyoungk​​​​​✅ (dino x reader)

↳ The Dark Prince. That’s what everyone calls him. And every time I say it out loud, “The Dark Prince”, a shivers runs down my spine. It’s such a powerful name.

Disguise || @jjuxii​​ 💕💔✅ (yeonjun x reader, smau)

↳ the royal family never reveals their heir before they turn 20, they always wanted their princess to experience a normal life before they face royal duties. Y/N, a heir to the throne was sent to collage but in one condition, to never reveal her true identity. she was living her best life until she met choi yeonjun.

** if there is any fics that you guys would like to recommend, please do! i am slowly running out of fics to read **

[nqueso-emergency]

Let me get this straight: You are someone with multiple personalities, Bree, Audrey, Aubrey etc. You're a journalist, you're a fraud, you're making things up, you're a bitch, you're a lover, you're a child, you're a mother, you're a sinner, you're a saint... sorry, I got carried away. You are so many things and, above all, fake and a fraud.

Please explain: If you are all this, why do BoBs even care what you post, share, etc.? Why are they so hard on your heels? Why are they lashing out at you if they consider you incapable of knowing things and a laughing stock?

The same goes for Tommy/Lou and BT fans.

If you are soooooooo sure your ship goes canon, why not celebrate and promote it? Why go BoBs on a rampage in the most primitive way and show everyone how stupid they are? Why do they act like kids who throw tantrums in Target's parking lot? I just don't get it. Is humiliating themselves now a new TikTok trend? Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the dumbest of us all? Why even bother if they don't believe you? It is such a waste of energy. Their hatred could power a small town until the end of the year or even longer.

I'm sorry you have to endure all this just because you want to enjoy fandom like anyone else and share your thoughts with like-minded people. Things will be revealed on Thursday when episode 8x01 airs. As the show proceeds, we will find out if the things you and others said are true. This is a TV show with fictional characters and actors who love the fans and do their jobs. Watching and discussing it should be fun and not be turned into a witch hunt. BoBs remind me of those people you see in Frankenstein movies who come after the monster with torches and pitchforks in their hands. Many don't know what they are doing here because they only know the series from fanfiction or hearsay. But because it is so great to belong somewhere, they joined the club of the embittered and misunderstood. I hope they find another focus in life one day, which will be an eye-opener. But I think that remains with thinking.

Hopefully time will reveal all

[roo-bastmoon]

Quickie (but important) thingies

I've got like 15 minutes in between CT scans so of course I'm on my phone checking on Jikook because the crazy obsession is baked into my DNA by now. Y'all caught me.

Good news: Jimin is linked back up on Spotify. Well done, ARMY, for raising the red flag high and helping get this fixed today!! Let's always have Jimin's and BTS' backs!

Interesting news: It seems that folks Shazamed JK's behind the scenes video and the song that came up is called H-Thirteen (I can't check because the hospital won't let me access YouTube links). Can anyone confirm?

Request: I'm totally not trying to gaslight, minimize, or police anyone's fandom experience. But it feels like folks are on a hair's trigger out here these days. I get it, especially when it comes to Jimin. He has suffered so many insults over the years.

But before we assume Jungkook is a thief or plagiarist, before we assume his music video will be raunchy, before we assume the worst of any member, could we just hold out a bit for more information? It is possible all these concept choices for Seven are an homage to Jimin and Face. (I'm going to especially think this is so, if the song in the background is number-coded to Jimin and Jikook.)

It seems to me that Jimin has always been Jungkook's inspiration--perhaps even his muse.

And I'm not saying we have to blindly trust or believe the best in everyone. (I mean, I do, but that's me.)

Honestly? I have no great love of Hybe at the moment. I have too many suspicions around all the things that happened after Jimin's Hot 100 #1. But the people who work there are just people; I'm sure most are good and some are jerks, just like anywhere.

The members are also human beings. And human beings are always works in progress.

So I just would like to ask that if something a tannie is doing seems alarming, we say "Hm, that seems alarming!" rather than scream with our whole chests that a member is actively trying to hurt or sabotage another member. Especially when we've had years and years of evidence that BTS really love and trust each other.

Look, every member has flaws; they will make mistakes--sometimes big ones, as they grow. And we have a right to criticize behaviors we don't like. But I guess because of my past family life, I am personally triggered whenever someone automatically assumes mal-intent without asking any questions or waiting for more info to come to light.

Not saying we have to love everyone, or we can't call a spade a spade. I guess I'm just recommending we give a little grace until we get the whole story. I see folks on the timeline who just love Jimin so much, who fear the worst because of the lack of transparency or explanations. My heart beats with you, but I encourage you to hold on a bit longer. Let's see what Jimin has to say about all this.

It's entirely possible that Jungkook saw the way Jimin's hard work and sexy style was amazing but unappreciated by the company and he decided to pay respect to that with his single because he knows he's got the social capital to insist on it.

It's possible that stylists and marketing teams think these looks are the hot, sexy, edgy trends for this year and went with it.

I suppose it's also technically possible that Jungkook decided to "rip off" Jimin's style... and go all-in on payola for radio (which isn't confirmed yet)... and also lean heavily into a straight-acting macho-man raunchy music video (again, not out yet) -- but until we are very sure of any of that, may I ask that we speculate instead of accuse?

If it turns out anyone did Jimin dirty, I promise you I will grab my torch and pitchfork and be second in line (behind Hobi) to rage. But for our own health as a community, and as individuals combatting our own stressors, could we... could we just hang in there and give ourselves some time to do our due diligence before we assume evil or selfish intentions? That's my request.

(Caveat: of course--your blogs, your rules. You get to say anything you want in your space and I will never police you. If I'm really worried about something you're saying or doing, I'll just ask you about it directly. But I won't shade you, I promise. I'm just gently asking us to withhold judgement until we figure out what actually is going on. I hope that sounds reasonable and not condescending. I truly do value different perspectives and would absolutely love to count every person in the Jikook tag as a friend, even if we wildly disagree on things. So please don't read this post as me trying to be harsh or holier than thou. I'm simply trying to say: let's judge based on what is, not on what appears to be true.)

Ah, time to put more dye in my veins. Got to go. Love to you all!

P.S. Jimin smiling so happily while killing it in TikTok challenges is panacea.

[mrs-monaghan]

your satellite jeon post is making me cry and throw up because MS😭.

Our poor moon that can’t shine without the sun😭

18 months 😭. that sucks so bad 😭. The fact that they’ve got a ban on same sex couples participating in sexual activity for the duration of their service. I don’t even care to know how they’ll monitor that. I hate it here.

18 months and that’s if jimin passes the physical test with his chronic pain. God that’s another worry in itself. His pain. I want him serve the same way as suga for the sake of his pain. That means a longer duration. I’ll be very surprised if jimin can pass the physical test while suga didn’t.

18 months. we all saw JK crumble earlier this year. The white day live is going to haunt me when they go. But I’m hoping and believing strength has been gained by both of them since then. It seems as much but who knows.

*sigh* they can do this🥺

tell me they can do this, Shaz 🥺

Anon means this post.

From the beginning I've never really worried about Jimin. I knew he was going to be fine. It was always JK's separation anxiety that concerned me.

Anon, money talks. That's just a fact. It don't matter the country, it don't matter the language, money talks. Always. IF they don't go to the same base (which would be nuts if they did!) they will make it work. If they wanna see eo, they will see eo.

If it gets bad, they'll make it work. That's what I know.

I can already smell the pitchforks from antis on the way to my inbox talking about BTS and how they'd never participate in something like that. Corruption bla bla bla. Illegal bla bla bla. Kind of reminds me of the people who say Jikook waited till 2017 to shag because illegal bla bla bla. Or that its not true that BTS collectively did not want to enlist. That they wanted to serve just like everyone else bla bla bla.

Its always amusing to me when people forget our 7 precious idols are human beings just like you and me. They experience fear and anxiety. Jealousy and anger. And all other negative emotions you can come up with. They go through all of it, just like you and me.

So if you think given the chance to sneak out and see eo Jikook wouldn't take it, after months of not being able to do so.... well, I commend you for your faith in humanity.

I strongly believe their rlship won't be affected by MS because they'll make it work. So yeah, let's worry instead about Jimin and how hard they will work him in there. Coz this man is the type to make sure he passes the physical exam just so he serves normally instead of community service 🤔 I'm doing this math in my head and community service takes longer like u said. So I think if that's what Jimin was planning to do he'd have gone in already. 🤔 So, thats why I think he's not doing community service.

I'm deducing all this from math I've done so I'm not saying all this to be fact. We will see what happens. JK is basically done. January is sniffing around the corner. Its not too long now...

Yo! We all caught the most scary Halloween costume, right?

😂😂😂

[the-path-to-redemption]

Now this could be me and me overthinking it but do you think Cinder would fall under the "Dragon Lady" troupe?

Context: Dragon lady troupe are South Asian or South East Asian who are depicted as strong, deceitful, mysterious, and sexually alluring. They are stereotype as ruthless killers under Orientalist of how Asian Countries are scene as barbic

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DragonLady

https://www.hercampus.com/school/american/the-dragon-lady-the-lotus-blossom-and-the-robot-archetypes-of-asian-women-in-western-media/#:~:text=The%20Dragon%20Lady%2C%20a%20term,of%20the%20East%20as%20barbaric.

To me Cinder feels like she would fall under this troupe as we see her as seductive, ruthless, mysterious, and deceitful.

And before anyone get the torches and pitchforks. Yes I'm fully aware that Ruby and Yang and half Chinese because of their father is Chinese coded.

However keep in mind media tends to protray poc coded groups and people as "barbaric savages" who needs to adopted to western traditions and beliefs to save them. The person who "help" these people are white people or people who is half white and half of the "barbaric" people.

It make sound ridiculous and a stretch by considering the fact the RWBY is created by the pink washing capitalist Transphobia pedophile company. I wouldn't be surprise even if Monty was involved with creating Cinder.

Long Post Ahead

Just to preface this, Cinder (from what we see and know) are designed after the femme fatale archetype and has zero indication in the actual canon material or extracurricular materials (books, BTS, etc.) as being Asian coded. The story of Cinderella, while having multiple cultural equivalents around the world, is French if you still keeps it in the context of Cinder's creation. Her wearing or designed in East Asian-esque outfits are not indications of her being Chinese or Asian-coded, as we've seen Raven and Salem designed in a similar matter, and these are examples of Rooster Teeth's orientalism rather than making them representation of Asian characters. She's designed to be very white, with a white name, and a white allusion because they specifically used the "Cinderella" version of the story with the glass slippers.

Moving onto your ask itself, I can see why you would think of this particular trope when examining Cinder's characterization and role in the narrative. It's also very problematic that if Cinder was meant to be Asian coded, unfortunately she very much falls into the Dragon Lady Trope with Salem being the white person who "saved" her, while Cinder herself is the seductress who is the villain.

But I doubt that's the case; if anything, Cinder is one of many examples of RWBY's ill-advised portrayal of female characters, whether they're heroic or villainous; Cinder's role as the femme fatale is played out in very gross ways, mostly just focusing on her being "hot" and the "dangerous" is quite lagging behind (the biggest example of this is her stealth outfit being greatly modified from the concept art to being sexier and the multitude of ass shots).

Cinder is also another example of RWBY's extremely gross way of portraying disabled characters, with her being an amputee and visually challenged (temporarily mute) person who is dependent on a prosthetic of some kind, by making the majority of them bad guys. Specifically, bad guys who's disability strips them of humanity and signifying them as evil in a narrative while the good guys are able-bodied people who are justified in beating these bad guys. Which is a gross ass trope.

TL;DR: Cinder, while not originally designed to be Asian or Asian-coded, is still a very problematic character chocked full of bigoted tropes including, but not limited to, sexism, orientalism, and ableism. While I myself do not think that she falls under the Dragon Lady trope, Cinder is still very badly written and her existence in the narrative of RWBY is a blatant reflection of the writers' incompetent writings that should not be ignored.

[beautifulpersonpeach]

https://twitter.com/BTSTrendSongs/status/1700192589583089887?t=P3WaK2L2uLhMszFaUmqSTA&s=19

I just saw this and I am confused.

Why are army accounts explaining what solo fbs are doing? I don't see why we should involve ourselves (us as in armys) with what solos do.

Secondly, it says Tae's china bar ordered 815k albums at 7pm today to push his numbers up. I am sorry, but a sudden order of 815k albums? No one seems concerned, that's huge amount to drop last minute.

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Your link, Anon.

Your second paragraph answers the question you're asking in the first. But I'm sure you already knew that.

"Why are army accounts explaining what solo fbs are doing? I don't see why we should involve ourselves (us as in armys) with what solos do."

For the same reason ARMYs have to explain to other (baby) ARMYs every time solo fanbases show their ass and reveal they have absolutely no ordered thinking whatsoever, and that rather than Tae's deleted sales being 'HYBE sabotage' (which is the default reasoning from akgaes), it's actually the result of a power-tripping fanbase who cared more about bragging rights against other solo stans, than using well-known ARMY buying practices that by design avoid this kind of embarrassment.

Remember what I said a few days ago about the massive bulk sales method that Taehyung's solo fanbase was pushing, about it triggering an audit? Well...

There are some ARMYs who think they can work with solo stans or find a middle ground with them somehow, but those are ARMYs who have no idea what the consequences are. Each time I've talked about deleted sales in Chapter 2, first Hobi's then Jimin's, all I've said till this point is that (1) all the members are affected and that (2) it has nothing to do with HYBE.

I didn't say anything more to explain what could've triggered those deletions because I didn't want to apply a situation I've seen in other groups to BTS, so I left it at that though I suspected basically what we've now got proof of. ARMYs use a network of buyers spread over time. For reference, many of the sales through OT7 channels happened regularly throughout the pre-order period (a month) giving sellers time to confirm stock amounts. This is ARMY best practice that literally avoids any claims of 'mass buying', because ARMYs have absolute numbers in transactions to show it's fairly indicative of real demand. Taehyung's C-bar wanted to flex their buying power and influence, so they thought it would be a perfectly rational choice to place an order of that size, through a small and unknown retailer, all at once...

If the order size (and resulting stocking bottleneck) didn't trigger an audit, it's likely the fact that order was going to only one address would've triggered it instead. Like, anyway you look at it, it was a dumb idea and mistake, but one solo stans often make. Because the success of the idol for them is always a means to an end: bragging against other solo stans who are indeed that myopic and that shallow.

HYBE has nothing to do with Hanteo noting or creating irregularities on their platform. Whenever sales are deleted as has happened for other idols and groups, it's usually due to a miscalculation of stocks and shipments... something that can be triggered by a fanbase mass ordering a ridiculous amount or someone internal simply messing with the numbers.

Today V's fanbase inadvertently showed the former. And ARMYs jumped in to use it as a teachable moment for the 'Tae-biased ARMYs' who were ready to wield pitchforks to bring down 'evil HYBE' for an akgae fanbase fucking up.

Again.

[taegularities]

Your voice is sweet like honey! I loved listening to your responses, and cmi will definitely be the #1 fic I’ll remember reading and if my brain doesn’t develop dementia, I’ll be telling my grandkids about this book😭😭😭

But I also had another thought/question/vent type of thing? So yeah

But I’ve been out of the loop but recently saw on this Instagram page l follow that el captxn? (I’m sorry I can’t spell his name correctly) is a new guest on suchwita and I’m so confused on why a lot of armys are happy and love him?

I remember in 2020 with the whole fiasco of yoongi’s d-2 he was the producer who did no research whatsoever and imported that audio of jim jones sermon onto “what do you think” which was already very disgusting and ignorant behavior, but then he also never took accountability and only yoongi/bighit apologized? As they should though. But I remember all the outrage on that and the hate yoongi got, so I’m confused on how he’s now a beloved person?

I get him and yoongi are friends, but we shouldn’t always be so quick to encourage or “like” every interaction they have with people, like that action was very ignorant and especially in 2020 when racial awareness was at its peak, and he never even acknowledged it? I’m sorry I’m just rambling, but why as armys are we quick to forget these peoples wrongdoings just because of their proximity to bts?

Sorry sorry for bothering you today, but I just wanted to get it out😞

thank youuu, my love!! 🥺 you're so sweet hehe i really hope we can look back at this story in the far far future and hold it fondly and close to our hearts :') i'm so happy it means so much to you 🤍

ahhh oh gosh. tbh, i didn't know it was him importing that audio!! i don't know much about el capitxn in general, which is why i wasn't super interested in that suchwita episode, and i can't say much on that topic either (i'm also scared of saying smth wrong and ppl coming with pitchforks again fjksudjsus) but if it's true, then yeah, that's odd :( if anyone knows more about this, then i do encourage to drop a message, if you'd like!!

and don't apologiseeee, if you know me then you know you can vent literally anytime and about anything. not bothered at all!!! i feel honoured even bc you trust me like that!! you're good, and i'm sending hugs 🫂💕

[destinyc1020]

...anon aint nobody clowning Halle, we clowning her embarrassing man... on a tumblr account lol i still will b supporting her music shes talented af bt just has poor choices in men

Right?? LOL!!! Like, who's on Tumblr these days?? NOBODY Lol 😅

It's not like we're taking to Twitter or even IG with pitchforks, or making HATE accounts for him or her or anything like that lol.

Like geez... Can't people have an opinion these days?? With that said, I don't think it's good for fans to go clowning celebrities or making hurtful comments towards them on social media just because they're dating someone you might not like. To me that's just juvenile, and quite frankly, crossing the LINE.

[reflections-in-a-critical-eye]

Hi BMT,

I hope you are well.

I was hoping you would help me.without judgement. I am scared of going to other tumblr account.

I am a fan of BTS and followed then for a while. Along the way, I have somehow managed to fall in love with Jikook. I never realized I started seeking their moments until recently. I know you don't do shipping and my question isn't really about shipping. I am just curious about what something means. JK recently released the HBD video for Jimin. In the video, he said bro at the end. In my normal and bland world, I normally see bro as something said between friends but I saw all these Jikookers rave about it. What makes this video so great? I am really naive and haven't honestly been in relationships so I don't understand the fuss. I heard bro and assumed that he was addressing someone he saw as a friend. Up until now, I thought they could be together but that video cemented my initial belief that they weren't/aren't together. Am I missing something? Are you able to help me with this? Like I am not asking you to talk about their relationship. I am just asking your help understanding what the video means in any context.

Ok anon, I shall do as you desire. I don't have the energy to analyze your text to see if you're a troll or not, so I'm going to put on my innocent hat to answer your ask today, assuming your question is truly genuine. I will tell you what I think specifically about what you want to know and then I'll see where this goes....

Tone and context are clues which help us interpretate the words that we hear. That's why, singling out one word may prove to be unhelpful in trying to figure out what the person says. Take for example the word "baby". Look up its definition in the dictionary. And then think of all the people who use it as a term of endearment to call their partners. Do they really see them as babies? No. But the word gets another meaning, depending on how and when it's used. Tone is very important as well and usually the first clue that indicates what the person is trying to say. It's true that for some people, that is hard to understand and that's fine. But you gave no indication and you didn't mention any of that, so I'm not going to assume it's difficult for you to figure out emotions.

So, to answer your specific question, in the context of flirting and more specifically a video that basically looks like a text book thirst trap, the word bro loses its "strictly dude bros friendship-type of meaning" because the person who said the words made sure to create a context that gives the receiver/viewer of the video the key to how this can be interpreted. You don't need to be in a relationship to know what flirting sounds and looks like. I mean, go and do some research on BTS and the multitude of videos there are at our disposal and see how they use the word bro in other situations and compare it to this one.

Now, to address other stuff that is going on here? What do you mean you're afraid to go to other tumblr blogs? You're still anonymous, so what does it matter? You're afraid that if you say that you believe two guys in BTS are just friends, the bloggers will raise their pitchforks? Let me teach you something, so next time you can go to actual shipping blogs in matters that relate strictly to a ship. Your ask could have been formulated in the following way: "Hey, X. I know you probably talked a lot about that video Jungkook made for Jimin, but I was wondering if you're willing to expand a bit more on Jungkook's flirting techniques and how he likes to use certain words that at first glance, would not mean much, but through his tone, he changes everything. Like when he says Jimin-ssi or how he used bro in this context. Thanks in advance, have a lovely day! See? Not that hard. Hope this helps.

As to that video cementing your beliefs in the the bros are strictly bros, then what's the problem? Is that bad? Does that confuse you because other stuff made you think otherwise? So what? Seriously, ask yourself this. So what? Do they loose their appeal, are they less interesting to watch? Do you need someone to come up with "evidence" that could help you change your mind because all this confusion gives you this weird feeling inside, like you can't trust your instincts, but then perhaps you can't trust the ones that you watch? Yeah, I'm not trying to psychoanalyze you and as I said, this sort of dilemma is more appropriate for jikook spaces, which is why I'm going to tag it as that, perhaps others might be of help next time. As I said, it's all in how you word your question.

And on a last note, people don't need to be in a relationship in order to flirt. Flirting for the sake of flirting can be really fun and it happens amongst best of friends as well.

[taviewritesstuff]

Back in Action After So Long!

Why, yes, I had to include Bugs for the title of this post. Why not XD

Anyways, this update has been a long time coming!

School has been one reason I've had spurts of activity on this site, but then there's also the fun spurts where my mental health was like a rollercoaster. March in particular was a pretty bad month for me, even though I was creating a lot of content for Super Why and such, because I was bogged down with work and had little to no motivation for school. In April and May, however, I got my crap together, and pushed through to get my GPA back up, albeit not without a lot of coffee, and lots, and I mean LOTS of correction and guidance and prayer! Long story short, work got a little easier in April-May, I was able to create art I was actually proud of, got a confidence boost in my physical appearance, changed my outlook on how I see work and creativity, updated a fic on my list, and got back into an old fandom of mine, while working on other things back and forth. Now, school is still trying to kcik my tail, but I'm right there in the mud wrestling with it, because I feel that this is a dream of mine that I want to pursue, and darn it all if I'm going to fail in it. And before you come after me with pitchforks (I know who you are XD), yes, I have been making sure I take care of myself and get adequate rest, especially during the really tough weeks.

Rediscovering my love of writing, and being reminded (yet again) of the freedom to write what I want and not care what others think, has really helped with my creativity. Recently, I've been getting downloads of absolutely wild ideas, ranging from genderbending twists on romance to ideas that would fit in an anime rather than a kids' show. And I'm loving every minute of it! Learning to have fun with my writing again has been such a liberating experience, and learning to sit back and consume media/take breaks when needed has also been something that I needed to learn. You can expect bigger, better content from me moving forward!

And speaking of bigger, better content, I'm planning on moving some stories over to AO3 and making them exclusive to that website. Stories that are going to be AO3-exclusive include both BT Redux and For Love and Glory Relance, Attero Dominatus, Dimmed Stars, Eclipsed Horizons (my Hanna-Barbera/Honkai Impact story), and POSSIBLY the remaining Super Readers' Biggest Adventure Gaiden series. I've already started cross-posting some stories from both Wattpad and Fanfiction onto my AO3 account, so let's see how it goes from here!

To quote Rocky, I ain't hear no bell! I'm only down and out when God says it's time for me to bow out!

[roo-bastmoon]

Exploring ARMY Cancel Culture

Let's start with agreeing there's always a good time to block and report accounts and it is when they:

--use hate speech and slurs

--denigrate members and fans

--share personal or harmful content

--outright spread lies and misinformation

By all means, block and report those kinds of assholes. I do this at least once a day over on Twitter.

But today I witnessed something really disturbing.

I woke up to my notifications going off. I was being tagged and asked to unfollow a Twitter account because they posted photos of Jimin at Paris' fashion week, but they either trimmed Hobi out of the shots or just didn't mention Hobi if he were in the photos.

This was considered "diet-solo" behavior and folks were calling for massive blocks and reports.

So I asked: May I have some context please? What's problematic about this Jimin-focused account focusing on Jimin?

And of course got called a mootie and had some private quote retweets for my troubles. But basically, people felt it was super shady not to mention Hobi if he was in the shot.

Okay. That's a perspective that could have some legitimacy.

So here's what deeply concerns me.

This could have been an opportunity to have a discussion, to learn and grow, and actually affect some change.

Folks could have politely commented something like: "It appears that you keep cutting Hobi out of photos. You state you are a Jimin image archive, but many folks feel it is very disrespectful to ignore another BTS member. Would you consider mentioning Hobi or not cropping him out of your images?"

That is an example of non-violent communication, which illustrates a concept and a boundary, without insulting anyone or insisting the other person act in a way you deem fit.

The account owner could have come back and said something like: "Oh my gosh! I never want to disrespect any BTS members. The whole point of this account is simply to focus on my bias. But if it is upsetting to people, I will try to include other members in mentions, or in some shots, if I can!"

In which case, problem solved.

Or the account owner could have come back and said something like: "No I will not be doing that. This is my twitter page. I wish to focus on Jimin. If you don't like it, please just don't follow me."

In which case, you know this account isn't your cup of tea.

OR they had the option to say something like: "Fuck you. Fuck all the other members. Jimin supremacy is real. I hate every other BTS member."

In which case, THEN you know to report and block.

But instead of calling this person in and discussing the matter, people dogpiled on block threads and sent her a bunch of hate and spam, and as a result, she closed her account.

One less Jimin-positive account in a vast sea of Jimin-negative accounts on the Twitsphere.

Plus, someone's feelings were hurt. She basically said something akin to: "I tried my best but it wasn't enough. Please remember there is a human being behind this account. I have to leave without a backup account just to protect my mental health."

So... because folks didn't LIKE that Hobi didn't share a frame with Jimin in some edits, they grabbed pitchforks and torches and villainized a person as a solo, without any conversation.

Gone are her edits. Her archive will not be updated. People may have ruined BTS for her.

I'd been following that account for a bit. There was never a hint of shade toward any members, never anything negative about BTS in general; they didn't even draw comparisons between Jimin and other people. It literally was just an image archive focused on Jimin, making mood boards and stuff like that.

And they got run out of town on the rails. Straight up cancelled. An absolute perfect example of mob mentality and group-think, with almost no due diligence.

It makes me angry. If I am being honest, it makes me a bit ashamed to be ARMY.

I found BTS a little over a year ago thanks to a Jimin-focused fan cam. I was watching dance sequences on YouTube because I am a giant dance nerd. I saw a Jimin fan cam compilation of some of his performances. They cut out other members of the group in order to focus on his moves and skill.

But BECAUSE of his focused cut, I discovered BTS. From there I became a passionately OT7 ARMY, and very quickly after that a Jikook supporter.

BTS had been around for 9 years and I never paid a smidge of attention to them. It was a focused fan account that recruited me into this fandom.

Imagine if we did away with all bias-focused accounts or ship-focused accounts for being "diet solos"? What sort of fandom culture would we be creating? What would the ARMY microcosm look like, if we wiped out the celebration and focus on people's biases?

It's such a harsh, cruel, fucked up world. Can we not let folks just harmlessly enjoy things?

For my part, in any given situation, I always ask myself: WHAT IS THE KIND THING TO DO? Because I believe that is how BTS would want me to represent them as their fan.

Sometimes, the kindest thing I can do is not engage, just report and block vile little antis riding their hate-trains.

But most times, the kindest thing I can do is invite real, nuanced, complex conversation. I can approach people with the goal of making allies instead of enemies. I can try calling them in, before calling them out.

You might notice that I follow people here on Tumblr who love to ship Jikook. I also follow a few people who don't believe in shipping. And I follow one or two blogs who passionately stopped shipping Jikook. I don't agree with them, but I listen to what they have to say.

Because I am able to entertain a thought without automatically adopting it. And I am able to listen to people without endorsing them. Unless someone has monetized their blog, keeping an eye on them is not, in fact, a vote for everything they have to say.

So as to avoid living in an echo chamber, I will open myself up to a multitude of perspectives UNLESS those people:

--use hate speech and slurs

--denigrate members and fans

--share personal or harmful content

--outright spread lies and misinformation

Each and every person must act according to their conscience. I am not trying to convert anyone to my way of seeing the world. But sometimes I feel like purity politics is at play here, in ARMY. I see people on Twitter move like herds, or schools of fish, reacting before thinking, desperate not to be judged, so eager to feel morally superior.

That's... not self-actualization. That's a performance.

I want you to know it's super okay with me if you judge me. So long as you do your due diligence and get all the facts, please go ahead and make judgement calls about me. If you genuinely don't like my content, my methods of expression, my personality--you are absolutely free to police your own internet experience, and mute or block me. I WANT you to. I want you to protect your energy and do what makes you feel safe and joyful.

But if I'm HARMING you or doing something WRONG, I'd really appreciate if you'd kindly tell me what it is, and why it's bad. Give me the chance to learn and grow--or at least to explain my thinking.

Let me be human.

Let fans be human.

Let the members be human.

Humans learn by making mistakes.

I will say it again: as a human, your job is to make mistakes, gather up the related data, analyze it, and learn to adapt and do better.

If you get cancelled for just being human, then no interaction will be authentic. It'll just be token stanning and filtered content until all of fandom is just vapid, watered-down bullshit.

You should be able to be yourself in your own space, as long as you're not deliberately being toxic to others.

So the next time someone tags you and tells you that you need to unfollow someone who is problematic--consider asking for context and proof, sift through the evidence yourself, maybe try to have a conversation if you have the mental energy to get into it, and THEN react.

ARMY is in serious need of critical thinking skills these days.

Things that make you uncomfortable aren't always bad.

Things that challenge you aren't always toxic.

People are all works in progress.

Shame is a weapon, not a teaching tool.

Please use shame as a last resort.

Thanks for coming to my semi-ranty TED Talk.

Sending you all much love and peace,

Roo

[mrs-monaghan]

Honestly, I think payola is happening for JK because it’s nearly impossible to make it onto Hot100 “organically” now. (No doubt he’s being pushed, with Scooter, BPD, radio stations, everybody and they mama posting and hyping Seven.) But we have to remember that Seven only has Itunes, Amazon, Qobuz buys, and no D2C, which was our most powerful tool in getting our JM the #1 he deserved. Without the company stepping in to support it with radioplay, the #1 on Hot100 would be impossible. Now the question is whether or not they will support PJM2 the way they’re pushing Seven. I’m withholding judgement until we see how the company treats PJM2.

Still, this doesn’t negate how LC had INSANE potential to be HUGE, and HYBE completely fumbled the fucking bag. And by fumbled I mean they just about dropped it over the rooftop of the building that JM and BTS built. Kicked it to the curb like it was worth nothing. And that pisses me off and it always will. But Jikookers, please try to tone back the hate towards JK. He doesn’t deserve it. I know the main question is “how can JK accept all this help knowing that JM was snubbed and didn’t get any?” I don’t know, but we do know that Scooter is involved. This man is a toxic snake. We have no idea what’s going down behind the scenes. Really, we have no fucking clue. We can only guess. So please, support Seven if you want to, don’t support it if you don’t want to. But don’t be so quick to jump on JK and accuse him of not caring about JM. Are you kidding me? You’ve really forgotten how much JK loves and takes care of JM, everything they’ve had for the past ten years, everything in the past few months even.

I promise you, there will be a day when we’ll get a tell-all, be it leaked emails or JM himself addressing the issue, perhaps even JK will do/say something. Nothing shady stays hidden forever. Until that day, let’s be patient and kind.

Oh, and for those accusing JK of plagiarism, are you serious? Like, look in the mirror and say that to yourself. “JK is stealing JM’s creative work without his permission.” Yeah, do you realize how fucking dumb you sound? There is undoubtedly glaring similarities between their style and concept choice. Do you ever think for one second — okay, since it’s obviously not plagiarism, what could it be? Could it be that JK is trying to send a fucking message? Or did you ever think for one second that JK could have gone to JM and said, hyung, I really liked what you did, do you mind if I do something similar? They could be laughing and giggling together about the photos literally as we speak, meanwhile people are going after JK with pitchforks saying he’s stealing JM’s story. Fuck off.

Now the question is whether or not they will support PJM2 the way they're pushing seven

This special treatment is for JK and JK only. When we say he is the golden goose that's exactly what we mean. They had plans for him, from day one. He is who they will use to pave the way for BTS and Kpop ig. Idk. Is this for BTS or for themselves? Who tf knows?

Jimin could have done this too. Was doing this. But he isn't who they banked on. Invested in. His success continues to shock them. They had a plan and they refuse to deviate from it.

We saw it coming y'all... why are people mad? Guys, I'm not gonna lie, I'm as as cool as a fucking cucumber. This is my only option. Its either that or join everyone else and be fucking pissed and what good does that do? 😂😂😂

Jimin solos already tagging BH to ask why LC didn't get pushed for radio play like that's gonna do dick. There is a plan in place and there ain't nothing nobody can do to change it.

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JK didn't steal shit. You're bonkers if you think Jimin wasn't aware of what JK was going to do. And was perfectly okay with it. They are matching on purpose. It's on purpose. Period.

[wildernessuntothemselves]

there is noooooo long fics, well not much, but esp none for txt. and even if there is, its not of this genre like angsty erotica but I hit the jackpot when you started a whole yandere!beomgyu one, like I am a long shot reader ans writer, so like having someone finally read something long and binge for long hours, even if there are numerous great one shots, the long fics really itch that one spot!

lmao I just imagine beomgyu killing yeonjun and washing his hand off the blood with idk maybe some handkerchief oc made him, but yeah ig yeonjun wasn't that dumb to provoke beomgyu like that, plus he didn't seem that bad he did save him ans oc from drowning.

I feel like I'd get thrown pitchforks at me for saying that rape scene was hot, like listen OFC IT'S A Fiction it has halo effect all over it, but my god that scene was so good like thr frustration, the anger and like desperation coursing through his vein man was agitated ans he was shaking man i love it when beomgyu snaps momentarily and man he just loves her ( I canr overlook the fact he tried to leave his royalty for her) also that first humping scene WHEN BEOMGYU LIKE HELD HER THIGH AND PUSHED HER TOWARDS HIM TO HUMP LIKE A DOG HE IS, damn THAT'S ALL I NEEDED I read that smut so many times. like I wanna see more of those tropes!!!!!!

back when i used to be in the bts fandom, there were multiple long fics but i don't know if those died down or it's just txt who don't really have much a presence on tumblr. it's a shame because while i love oneshots, sometimes i really need to feel that anticipation and angst and confusion :')

and then making oc see the dead body and blaming her for what happened :') no believe me yeonjun was bad, i just didn't write about him enough

yeah we all know it's wrong but something about that utter desperation and franticness of the moment is just so delicious. i love ticked off gyu too, he's so hot. ughhh i loved that humping scene so much it's one of my favorite smuts. i love when the characters get so needy with something so little and are still left wanting more because they couldn't go all the way

[beautifulpersonpeach]

kind of random, but I’m curious about your thoughts on what seems to be the intended growth and direction of Weverse and Weverse magazine beyond the kpop sphere

bang pd has said that they want to expand weverse’s use to western artists and fanbases. Of course it’s still almost entirely kpop and kpop adjacent, but in general I like the platform and I think it could be an interesting tool for smaller artists globally. But I also don’t see western artists being that interested in engaging with their fans like this, especially where they already have tools like Instagram live. Maybe I’m biased by my army experience, but the Weverse armys are some of the cringiest (and youngest) imo, and the parasocial relationship encouraged somewhat in kpop isn’t encouraged in the same way in the west. Maybe there’d be interest in the online concert format?

as for Weverse magazine, I like the idea of growing a kpop oriented magazine that actually respects the artists. There’ve been so many dumb articles written about bts that it’s nice to see there be consistently decent interviews with them. The bts/hybe bias shows, but I don’t need constant fluff pieces about the members to appreciate the magazine and I think it’d be better off in the long run if they have objective authors writing about kpop generally. I have seen some articles about western artists which threw me off of what I thought they wanted to do with the magazine and who they want their audience to end up being. Do you see a benefit in trying to grow their reach to western artists and growing their audience? What do you think they want to do with this magazine?

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You raise very good points. I want to challenge and expand on a few things.

"...and the parasocial relationship encouraged somewhat in kpop isn’t encouraged in the same way in the west."

This is changing. Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, Billboard, etc, the main music publications have been highlighting since BTS got on the scene (2020), that musicians should look into actively building dedicated fanbases via more fan engagement, to be more successful. Here's an article from Billboard crediting this shift in the industry to Taylor Swift (I disagree). Also, western artists already leverage parasocial relationships: Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, Nicki Minaj are all examples of western artists who are about as engaged with their fans as some k-pop groups are. So if the sales pitch for Weverse is a customized fan engagement solution to lean on the parasocial aspect more, there's more than a few western artists who will be interested.

Just wanted to put that out there, and also because it ties to my next point about the (theoretical) competitive edge WV has over a platform like Instagram Live:

IL is technically the better platform because it gives you the widest audience reach. More people have Instagram already installed than they do Weverse.

But the key thing about successful fan engagement, is cultivating a fandom. Meaning, a somewhat organized group of fans. For the fans to organize, they need a fandom space. A shared feed where people in the fandom can communicate and build community. It's somewhat difficult to get this on Instagram and this is why forums like Twitter, Reddit, Tumblr, Quora etc thrive.

Weverse's pitch is highlighting a customized solution that combines the best things about those platforms into one thing, creating a dedicated fan space for the artist and their fans.

In theory, Bang PD is right on the money here and with a few adjustments should have a gold mine on his hands. But the platform isn't well managed.

And neither is the magazine.

And so that theory remains just that.

There's been a handful of dumb articles about BTS/members and other artists by Weverse Magazine too. They've done an excellent job with the interviews they've published, and sometimes they've offered critical counterarguments to shoddy logic from mainstream music publications, but the times they've gaffed have been really embarrassing for everyone involved. For example that racist article that undermined Jimin's accomplishments with FACE. One can assume that was maybe their attempt to show less bias towards BTS and come across as 'objective', but all it did was make the writer and magazine look uninformed.

To gain any critical cred they need more flashy bylines, more socially conscious Korean critics and more mainstream writers, etc. And to increase their audience, yeah more pieces featuring western artists is one way to go about it. They want the magazine as an avenue to tell their own stories and offer their own side, as well as an attempt to participate in discussions in the wider industry, in k-pop and outside k-pop.

This is the wrong way to think about things, but I use Weverse as a bellwether to gauge how efficient and well-run HYBE is. My take on things, using how Weverse appears to be managed as a proxy, is that HYBE is bloated - not quite yet a bureaucratic nightmare but key departments are slow to react whether it's in fixing problems, picking up on trends, course correcting, etc.

I don't know much about coding but the UX/UI on Weverse feels like an afterthought. Almost everything from the color scheme (and lack of personalizing options) to the fact there's a WV streaming platform nobody uses.... they could be doing a much better job with a leaner structure.

Last week if you opened Weverse you'd have gotten a notice to participate in a survey. I left my feedback and I hope y'all did too. BigHit used to be decently good at responding to fan feedback. Let's hope that's still the case with Weverse and HYBE because even the company recognizes that Weverse is underperforming.