#bring. back. vaati

[powdermelonkeg]

Idk if anyone has asked this yet but do you think we could get a third game in this Hyrule. Like do you think they have left enough for another one story wise?

I think they do. Their biggest hurdle is going to be making Hyrule fresh and exciting the way the Upheaval did, and they can't pull the same thing twice—we've got verticality and new caves, what can they add?

They could make settlements in the Depths that are fun, and have the timeskip be later so that more towns are able to pop up. Maybe a new Skyloft from people who wanted to take the sky isles and their out-of-reach-of-monster-ness.

In terms of conflict, though, we've got plenty of beats they could reuse. I think the best potential they have, though, is a Four Swords multiplayer-style game.

Vaati hasn't been used for awhile, and the Triforce in the Wild era is still missing in action. There's also a Spirit Realm aspect that could be used to try to find the Triforce. But more importantly, Link drawing the Four Sword would mean that people could play together and do all kinds of whacky things to each other with the physics engine; imagine if you could ultrahand stuff around your friend, and how much chaos that could make.

On the singleplayer front, Nintendo's already testing out a follower system with 4+ companions. The AI for the Sages in TotK isn't great, but it's intuitive enough that they teleport after you if you ever lose them and get out of your way when you're lining up a shot or a camera, which is more than I can say for Skyrim. If they continue improving on that, I think a 4 Swords sequel is a fantastic way to show it off.

I do hope that it's on something more powerful than the Switch, and with better connectivity than Nintendo Online, though. I personally wouldn't have problems in my gameplay if it wasn't, since my roommate can sit right next to me, but a bunch of streamers I watch would ABSOLUTELY want to play together and Nintendo Online sucks.

If they decide to make the Wild Era a trilogy, I hope multiplayer is what they go with.

[meii-jasmine]

Nostalgia hit and so these four are back in my new art style!

ft. Link, Vaati, Gufuu, and Dark Link

(May 2023 vs Dec 2011)

[quibbs126]

Vaati, or at least the Minish, should show up in more Zelda games

I don’t know if any reference to them is made in Tears of the Kingdom, but I doubt it

[thebleedingeffect]

Playing minish cap why is Link so fucking LITTLE!!!!!

[lee-vc]

Thoughts on a BOTW 3 concept

I hope if they turn BOTW into a trilogy, the 3rd game is set like after a MAJOR time skip! We get to explore a fully restored Botw Hyrule with Castle Town and the little villages rebuilt, and the Hylian people have adapted/developed the Sheikah and Zonai tech where it's just so normal and stuff!

OH! And since BOTW is all about referencing older Zelda games!They could like, maybe instead of putting shrines everywhere in order to fast travel, in every major settlement, you'd have to complete a quest in order to unlock a TRAIN STATION! Like, the Gorons and Tarrey Town are ahead of their time with the railcart system they got going on! Like, you can choose to just fast travel to another train station or maybe just ride the duration of the trip talking to NPC, buy train specific meals or materials and junk! It could both encourage exploration but not make it TOO tedious, similar to what they did in Wind Waker!

And for Link's house, give him a default home yeah, but also another little quest you could do so that Link can CHOOSE where his home is! Maybe he wants to live in Kakariko, or in Goron City, or maybe he really gels with the Gerudos, stuff like that!

I know it'll probably never happen but that'd be awesome! Tell me I'm not alone in this!

[pr1soners-d1lemma]

FOR REALLL

Like I never believed that Ganondorf was the the same one actually this is my first time finding out abt that and like no the fuck he is not 😭 I strongly do believe that botw/Totk comes after minish cap, because that just makes sense. (Fuck you nintendo this timeline just got 100x more harder to understand) I feel like we need to know more though because right now Totk makes no sense except that it makes no sense in any of the timelines. So I’m just going to “calmly” wait another 7-8 years for the next game and hopefully some crumbs. But I’m also going to look into the lore more

LoZ - Not The Same Ganondorf

I've honestly never understood why some fans keep insisting on each Ganondorf all being the same Ganondorf.

Like, I just really don't get it. Especially those that also insist that TotK came before Minish Cap in the timeline because those 2 theories absolutely contradict each other.

It's like, what? Did his soul jump ship after being sealed by Rauru? And into what body?? Like, does he just have vacant bodies stashed away, just in case?? Like, "in case of sealing or death, break glass."

Because if not & he was sealed under Hyrule Castle by Rauru before Minish Cap, then how tf did he get out to become OoT & all the other Ganondorfs???

And why is it that at the beginning of TotK, he's in the exact same place, wearing the exact same clothes, in the exact same position as he was when he was sealed by Rauru???

It doesn't make any fucking sense!!

These 2 theories cannot exist at the same freaking time!

LoZ General Masterlist

[bokettochild]

I just saw a post asking which Link would make the best villain and....

It's Time guys

Like, I love the man, but let's be real; he's a second from snapping and committing atrocities.

Twilight is so thoroughly traumatized by the vision the spirits gave him and Fi's judgement of him that he literally can't stand messing with magic that isn't actually his own or connected to him. And while, sure, he doesn't need magic to be a villain, let's be real, it'd take something magical to force him to turn his back on everything he's ever fought for.

Similarly, Wild fought and died for his kingdom, and his people. There is nothing and no one worse than what he's already seen that could possibly make him turn his back on it all and throw his work down the drain just to destroy everything he'd built himself.

Legend is the same. he's been doing this far too long to ditch now. Granted, he's a grump, but if you look at his games, you see he's a highly empathetic and caring person. Unlike the others, who were tasked with saving the world by a mentor or friend, or had to go and save a friend or family member, or who where sworn to duty; Legend was literally some kid who was asked by an utter stranger to help, and did. Six times. No way someone like that is going to go and destroy everything.

And Wind! Wind is a moral guy, with a good heart. he set out for personal reasons and saw in his journey that there were bigger fish to fry, and he fried them. He had no reason to take it on, no call of the goddess, no responsibility, no reason for him, a child, to go and save the world as well as his sister, but he did it anyway.

Sky and Warriors are simply too devout. Warriors to the kingdom and it's people; with everything he suffered for them, you can't tell me the man isn't dedicated to serving his country. And Sky is loyal to Sun, who is Hylia, so he literally would never go against her. And by the law of the Zelda universe, villains are those who go against Hylia and Hyrule.

Four is an iffy one. Most people might say "but Vio was a villain!" but let's be real; if you read the manga, you know Vio was bluffing all along. If Vio, part of Four, didn't bow even under Shadow's influence, and Vaati's, and Ganon's, then again; who and what would drive this man to become a villain? Granted, the persuing of dark magic to bring back his lost friend could be argued, but is more likely to lead to his corruption than his attempting to take over Hyrule and kill innocents.

Hyrule is tough, since we have very little to work off of in cannon, but come on, even if Hyrule did turn to evil, he wouldn't exactly be able to do much. Hyrule's already in ruins in his time, and the monsters wouldn't hear of working beside him. He'd have everyone against him, and even if he does hold the triforce in it's entirety and thus could do all sorts of horrible things, he has neither motivation nor reason to turn away to becoming a villain.

Time though......

Time has watched the world burn and all his efforts be turned around and lost. He has lost everything so many times, usually with no reward or reason. In the end, Time, though a good man, cares more for the individual than the country. He cares about his wife and his boys, and based off the scars, we can only guess what lengths he's already gone to in order to accomplish his goals.

Time, if faced with the right issue, has every risk of dropping from defender to threat. Hyrule be damned, this man cares for his wife, his kids, his home, and if you threaten that, no matter who you are, he will go after you. He's one second away from going after Hylia and all she has done to him and those around him. He detests the Blade of Evil's bane, the symbol of Hylia's blessing. He borders every moment on the precipice of taking power beyond mortals to fulfill his own wishes, even if it is to help those he loves.

Put Malon in danger, heck, one of the boys, and Time won't let something silly like morals stop him from doing whatever it takes to protect what little that is still his and hasn't already been taken from him. He will fight tooth and nail not to lose anything else, and he won't let even the goddesses stop him.l

[asofspades]

I'm making a list of my favourite Four HC

- He has a necklace made from a shard of the dark mirror to remember Shadow and a strand of his hair is dyed purple in his honour.

- I like to count Four swords and Four swords adventures as separate adventures, so he's been on 3 adventures.

- Four Swords personally would be literally Link and 3 copies of him, I like to consider this as if the clones you can make in Minish Cap just had a solid body and thinking ability but Link does go back to being the same at the end of the adventure

- Obviously I like to incorporate the FS manga to his last adventure and this time Link splits into four different beings each a main part of his personality but over the course of the adventure they sort of become their own person

- That's why I headcanon that Four isn't really link as he was before his last adventure, for me all of the colours went back together into one body but remained separate, they usually work together and that would be Four as we know him.

- Obviously I love the HC that we have seemed to collectively agree on that Four's eyes change colour depending on who's more dominant at certain points.

- I do think that sometimes not all of them are driving the wheel together and that might be because they just went through a moment that required a lot of one of the specific colours or they're in disagreement

-That leads me to the HC that Four gets migraines when the colours are not in sync, which is another one most of the fandom seems to share.

- I'm also a fan of the "dark portals scramble the colours and thus Four" collective HC

- particularly I like to think that Four is both distrustful of dark magic because of the whole Vaati resurrecting and Ganon thing, and the soldiers and his father being controlled by that magic but also it makes him sad because it reminds him of Shadow's magic

- Also, while I HC that Vio was the closest to Shadow for obvious reasons I think when they merged into Four their memories and feelings were instantly registered by each other and now the other colours also appreciate Shadow for more than just sacrificing himself for them and Hyrule.

-I like to HC that he was almost the same age as Time was in OOT for his first adventure, as a bonus I like to think his bday is on the Picori Festival day which adds an extra layer of depth to both the beginning of his first adventure and his relationship with the Minish

- Following that logic I like to HC him as being freshly 8 y.o for his first adventure, around 11 for the second and almost 14 for the 3rd, and as such I love the idea that Vio and Shadow kind of developed crushes on each other.

- On that same note, since we can see Link as a soldier in the FS manga, but obviously there's only his Grandpa in MC, I like to HC that his father was deployed somewhere far away from Hyrule for diplomatic reasons (he's the captain of the royal guard after all) and he comes back after the first adventure. He gets told about what his child did and decides him joining the Royal Guard would be a good idea

- Following the previous HC, I like to think Link is not really enthusiastic about joining the Royal Guard because my boy got raised by his very cool blacksmith Grandpa who loves him very much and he's a little blacksmith at heart. Which kind of explains why he looks a bit done about being part of the royal guard, aside from the fact that he's literally saved Hyrule on his own before. That is also the reason he's so proud to be a blacksmith but never talks about having been in the Royal Guard.

- This is a more niche HC but since Four's era is way before OOT and way after SS I like to think the legal age changes a lot and so I HC that in Four's Hyrule you're considered an adult at around 14 so he's already working an paying taxes and is of marring age by the time he joins the chain.

- That brings me to another point and it's that I HC Four to be 16 in linked universe (I think that one's also pretty much shared by the fandom) but since legally he's been an adult for 2 years he gets thrown off by people calling him "kid" despite technically being the second youngest, he's a kid in basically everyone's time but his and I find that idea hilarious.

- Another commonly shared HC, four hasn't grown or has barely grown a cm since his first adventure because he overused minish magic, I like to add a twist and since you also turn into a minish in FS I like to think he grew a tiny bit between his first and second adventures but the overuse during the 2nd one was what did him in.

- Another HC is that four can in fact use the minish magic by himself, making him one of the Links with innate magic ability. Going a step further I think both Hyrule and Time can detect some Fae magic emanating out of him due to his entrenchment with the minish and his earring and sword (after all the four sword was forged form the remains of the Picori blade), Legend can sense some light magic coming off of him (he can canonically use innate magic and is attuned to magic artifacts) and Twilight can sense something similar to Midna's magic and the twilight mirror due to the dark mirror shard necklace Four carries.

Technically Wind can use light magic just because but I like to think he senses magic but really doesn't know what he's sensing at all because nobody bothered to explain magic to him even though he uses it a lot and often.

- okay, the shield think, we know the Shield in WW and MC are quite literally the same shield. And while I support people who have the whole "wind is Four's descendant" HC, for me personally I think people just knew it belonged to a hero and the people who found it after the great flood decided to keep it and it ended up becoming a family heirloom. Particularly they just mention that it belonged to a hero, and it's the first and only time that they don't mention that hero being the Hero of Time like they do in every other instance.

- the Palace of the Four Swords is a tricky one because me personally, I like to think that Four's soul is tied to his sword not only because he forged it but because of his second and particularly his 3rd adventure. Thus, when he dies he turns into a sword spirit and in the downfall timeline the sacred realm becomes the dark world and all inside it becomes corrupt and the sword that has been resting there for eras along with it's spirit gets corrupted as well prompting the events that happen at the FS palace in ALTTP.

- personally I like to think that since the Sacred Realm gate never opens in the child timeline the sword just rests in it's palace (built out of the elemental sanctuary that became the four sword sanctuary) along with it's spirit. And for the adult timeline it just rests underwater along with the rest of the old Hyrule forever undisturbed.

I find it really tricky that the splitting of the timeline ends up affecting previous heroes in the long run but it makes sense.

-Also, because SS takes place way way before MC I like to think the story of Sky is barely known outside of the Royal Family who might know a bit just because it's tied to their very existence. However I find that I like the idea that the people of the sky do know a version of said story and are descendants of the skyloftians who never took to the surface and that's why after living on the surface for a while by themselves they decided to go back to the skies and build a city on the cloud tops. Coincidentally since the Minish did come form the sky as well they might know about those stories. I think the molemits found in the wind ruins might be a version of the mogma mits from SS and the gust jar might have been inspired by the gust bellows from SS.

- Take I like, the blue ocarina in OOT that seems to be an heirloom of the Royal Family is in fact the Ocarina of Wind from MC, timeline wise it is the earliest apparition of that ocarina. My personal HC is Four gives it to Zelda either as a parting gift before parting on a trip where he ends up dying or he simply has it on his will to give Zelda that ocarina when he dies. With time the Royal Family unknowingly or knowingly infuse it with the power of the Goddess giving it the abilities we see in OOt and then in MM but, by the time it gets found by Legend in ALTTP is has basically lost all abilities except for the one to call a bird to bring you places. Personally I like to think that in the fallen timeline since the ocarina is in Link's hands when he fails it gets lost after being used to open the sacred realm and a regular someone ends up finding it prompting the side quest you do in ALTTP to get it.

- I also think that Four's relationship with his father is a bit rocky since he left the Royal Guard to become a full time blacksmith.

Some Colour headcanons

- Red enjoys using the fire rod but he doesn't like when people mess around too much with fire in forest because it reminds him of the third adventure

- Blue hates the cold because of the time he was encased in ice during the 3rd adventure

-Green has a need to save everyone because he still feels like he failed people during his 3rd adventure

- Vio likes to act all smug about his traitor act but he actually feels very bad about having tricked and betrayed shadow and he feels guilty that Shadow sacrificed himself after having been betrayed.

- Green also blames himself for Shadow and he finds it hard to be around their father because of the whole 3rd adventure.

[weepingtalecowboy]

Fanfic prompt: Considering that there are quite some Vio tries bringing shadow back from the dead fictions

And in all those Vio is pretty much ready to straight up execute someone to bring shadow back (not to forget dark magic and it’s dangers)

If he ends up in the past maybe the day shadow offered him to join he would probably do whatever possible to find a way to keep shadow alive while constantly crossing new moral lines

That nobody has ever thought existed

He could do it the best by joining Vaati and then reading the shadiest books known to mankind (because Vaati definitely has a library)

His relationship with shadow is something else entirely because he quickly noticed how unstable shadow already was (those insane mood swings can not be just coincidence there has to be something else considering that he is link's darkest part)

So he first looks for a way to make shadow's mind more stable because as long as the mirror is there shadow will be fine

A few murders later shadow is fine and he starts working on finding a way for shadow not to die immediately (in case they do need to break the mirror

And also teaching shadow how to read (because there is no way shadow can canonically read anything longer then a word)

And hanging out at the fire temple

When the others find him he doesn’t even try to act like a villain because he sees no reason (he isn’t a mole this time )why he has to stay till shadow won’t die

And also because he is extremely unhinged already and doesn’t even notice that

The other colors don’t see him on a throne and anything they straight up see Vio mumbling to himself the most disturbing books lying around

Drawing runes onto the ground

With several injuries (because you always have to sacrifice something for dark magic )

And crazy written on his face

And Vio just seems so happy to see them while showing how he can use possession to keep Shadow in the mortal realm (and enough warcrime needing spells for it to)

So they kind of uncomfortably ask him just what he thinks he is doing and then regret it immediately when he tells them exactly what he’s been doing (it’s nothing good and frankly they now will have nightmares)

Which somehow makes it even more unsettling then it is already

Is shadow not flipping out and sitting in a corner trying to read

Because how crazy does a person have to be to out crazy their evil counterpart

[smilesrobotlover]

Some Vaati’s wrath doodles.

Vaati’s wrath is basically where Vio brings back Shadow and as a result, Vaati is brought back as well. I think I already explained this but yeah.

[spadeprincesss]

OK I'll bite, I wanna know more about the Roleswap AU

so i know i begged people to ask about my AU but i’m still really happy you sent this in so thank you!

• Basically the plot of this story is after the events of the manga Vio attempts to bring Shadow back, with very little success.

• He tries method after method until he comes across a forbidden ritual that allows you to bend reality to an extent, this isn’t the triforce however, so doing so has a price (is there some sinister force behind this ritual that decides the price? perhaps).

• This means that when Vio wishes for Shadow to be free of the Dark World and live among them he ends up taking Shadow’s place instead, being transported there. He tries not to panic, figuring he can get himself out of this, and when the others realize he’s missing they’ll come to help right?

• However that’s not what happens.

• Shadow wakes up suddenly in a soft and warm bed, the curtains in the room drawn and letting very little of the morning sun drift in through the cracks.

• He’s a little disoriented, but as he gets up he starts to remember: he’s one of the four heroes of hyrule, they defeated Vaati and now they’ve all gone back to their lives as knights of hyrule. Yeah that sounds right.

• Everything seems fine for a few days until eventually he starts to have dreams he can never recall, but that leaves him feeling empty and anxious. Something was missing, out of place, but he never knows what.

• And it chases him, that feeling. Whenever he’d train in their private grounds and would find old dummies with arrow holes despite none of them having ever used a bow. Whenever he’d pass by the library, the old librarian would ask him in that shaky voice of hers when his friend would be coming over again. And even when he’s in his room and he’ll find old papers and vials he never remembers collecting in the first place.

• And worst of all is his weird reaction to the color purple, all of their reactions really. Last time Shadow had tried to wear the purple scarf Zelda knit him it had made the tension in the room incredibly awkward. They laughed it off as it not being his color but he could see it in their eyes: the confusion, the pain, they felt the same as him. Shadow had put the scarf in his drawer since then, but anytime he sees something– anything– of that damned color it's like a stab to the heart.

• It takes a few weeks, maybe months, all throughout where Vio tries to reach for him, trying to make him remember to no avail. Until eventually it all clicks and Shadow knows what’s wrong… this isn’t his life, its Vio’s life, and they’ve somehow swapped.

• At this point though its too late, because the longer Vio spent in the Dark World the more he starts to get poisoned by it, the magic he used trying to bring balance by turning him into the monster Shadow used to be. Until eventually he too forgets who he was and plays the role of the villain that was defeated by the heroes and now wants revenge.

• It takes a lot but Shadow does manage to find Vio, using his old notes still in his room to create window into the Dark World, but this time there’s someone on the other side who’s powerful enough to get out. So out comes Vio, newly reborn and taunting the heroes who defeated him, but now he’s stronger, he has more power and he’ll kill them all for what they’ve done.

• Vio’s usage of dark magic is much different than Shadow’s, he breaks them all down psychologically, forcing them into trances and hallucinations that have them fighting each other, but Shadow knows these tricks, grew up with them, so he breaks free and tells Vio to remember, to go back to being the hero he was.

• Vio laughs at the prospect and asks why he would ever trust a word he says ever again? However their encounter is cut short by Zelda and the maidens who drive him away, which leads to many questions like “is this what you were working on? reviving one of our foes we almost lost to when fighting Vaati and Ganon?”

• Shadow pleads, hoping maybe at least Zelda remembers, but she doesn’t, it must be Violet tampering with his memories. He’s a master of mind manipulation, you can never be too careful with him.

That’s all I’ll share for now cuz this is long enough but I do have more HAHAHA ♥️

[orcusnoir]

Sky at one point did feel guilty for being the one "responsible" for the curse, the cycle of reincarnation and all of the trauma that came with it. If only he was faster, then maybe Demise would've never had the chance to speak. This, of course, eats away at him. Every time he looks at the Chain he just thinks that none of them would've had to suffer if he was good enough. That is until he and Time had a chat. A small chat by a dwindling campfire late into the night. The Old Man also felt the same type of guilt, feeling explicitly responsible for all of the horrible things that the Sailor had to endure.

"That's not your fault." Sky whispered. "You had no idea going back would create a timeline split like that."

The Old Man grumbled something while fiddling with the Ocarina. "Maybe." "The only who should feel anything short of "responsible" for another's suffering is me." Sky sighed, letting his head fall into his hands. "I wasn't fast enough, and so Demise cursed us all. All of it is-" "Nonsense." Time cut him off sharply. "Still would've happened, even if you did cut the bastard down faster." Sky gave the Old Man an odd look. The way the dim light from the campfire shone on his face made Time seem much younger than he actually was. "You think Majora was afflicted with this curse?" He raised an eyebrow. Sky had to rack his brain for a second to remember who Majora actually was. "But that thing was from Termina, it probably only effects Hyrule." "And? What about Vaati?" Time gestured to the sleeping Four nearby. "Well I don't-" "Sky. It would've happened regardless." He shook his head with another sigh. "Most of you have had to fight a Ganon, or Ganondorf and they've all were afflicted-" "Oh please, the Ganondorf that I fought turned to evil. Sure, he may of had a voice of evil in his ear, but he chose that path. Nabooru even told me so." Time sighed. "He chose evil because it was easy, that's what she told me."

Sky started to get frustrated. "If he never had that "voice" in his ear or whatever-" "Sky." Time quietly cut him off. "He. Chose. Evil. Ganondorf made the choice to listen. He ignored the people telling him to do good, and chose that path on his own."

Sky didn't respond. What would he even say? Time seemingly had a counter to everything that Sky brought up about the curse. "Listen to me." Time started. "With good comes evil. Where there is evil, there is good." He ran his thumb across the holes of the Ocarina. "With light comes shadow, and we are that light." He continued. "Demise's curse or not, people choose to do evil. To hurt others, to bring chaos and ruin to the world for their own selfish gains." Time put his hand on Sky's shoulder. "We are the ones who respond to the calls for justice and peace. Curse or not, we'd still be here."

He was right. Time was right yet again. It was like the weight of the entire world was lifted off Sky's heart. He heaved a sigh of relief. "Since when did you get so good at philosophy?" Sky asked with a quiet laugh. "Well, let's just say I had a lot of time to myself in Termina, and I started reading." Time laughed. "Get some rest Sky, you need it." "Thanks, I guess I do."

[pinkrosealice]

I would do some pretty unethical things if it meant that Nintendo would make a Zelda game that iterates on the gameplay mechanics and aesthetic motifs of The Minish Cap.

Bring back Kinstone Fusion! Bring back that color palette!!!!! Bring back Vaati as an antagonist!!!!

Literally my ideal Zelda game would be one with Minish Cap graphics and core gameplay, with some of it's outdated or frustratingly flawed elements corrected/ modernized of course, but with like the scale and content level of BoW / TotK .

[skyward-floored]

What are all your link ocs relationships with their Zelda’s??? What are the villains for each story? I think I know for Lost and Swamp but I don’t remember for Berry

Lost and his Zelda are close friends before everything goes down-- Lost is one of the Hylian knights, and often guards Zelda herself, and they've known each other for a long time since Link grew up in the castle with her. There's some crushy stuff going on in there too that they're both starting to realize, but then Link gets corrupted and there's all the insanity that that brings with it, and afterwards they're sort of just trying to figure out things together. Eventually they get to the point of a romantic relationship, but it takes a bit for them to get to that point.

Berry, once he meets Zelda, is buddies with her :) they're too young to have feelings or anything for each other, and honestly I think they just stay friends even when they're older. They're just super chaotic once they really get to know each other lol. Berry helps Zelda sneak out, Zelda sneaks Berry into the castle, they have fun. Berry's good for Zelda, he gives her the opportunity to just be a kid and not worry about princess stuff.

And Swamp took one look at Zelda and went SWOOON boy was down BAD the moment he saw her. Not that he said anything of course. Zelda thought similarly, but also Swamp is... kind of a lot sometimes?? He's just very unlike anything she's used to. So I think they have a sort of interesting fascination with each other. I've also been thinking of giving his Zelda some sort of reason she doesn't travel/get out much, like maybe she's a little delicate or gets sick easy, so the fact that Swamp doesn't fret over her like everyone else is nice. But yeah, they fall in love over the course of things hehe

And now for villains!

Lost's is some sort of Vaati-ish sorcerer guy, he poses as an advisor, and then goes after Lost and the rest is history. He's one of those guys who's trying to bring back Ganon and cause chaos and things. A real jerk.

Berry's villain I'm still working on, but she's also a sort of advisor lady, who's looking to take over Hyrule. She's got some kind of fire magic to oppose Berry's plant theme. She's going to use Ganon to take over the kingdom, but in the meantime, she's also been making (fake) friends with Zelda's older brother. He feels unwanted, and she's been preying on all his insecurities and parental issues, and is planning on making him a puppet ruler once she gets rid of the rest of his family. She's also the one who started the plans to kidnap Berry's sisters and eventually use them to bring back Ganon. Berry HATES her.

And Swamp I'm very much still working out. He's got that whole cult of Farore thing I've mentioned before, but I don't know if they should be the main thing going on. Maybe he should have a Ganondorf? That might be cool. He needs more thought lol.

[beesmygod]

fromsoft ambiguity anon here - i agree with you as well that its just A Phenomenon of popular text reception that there will always be people who regard it as failure of the author, but ig its exceptionally apparent to me in my sphere wrt fromsoft games (hearing friends-of-friends tell me "idk ill just let vaati explain it to me" when bringing up things i thought were interesting makes me go "oh god i need to touch grass i shouldn't find that bad its none of my business")

I ACTUALLY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT "THE DOCUMENT i just read the ask before mine completely out of context..... and im wowed by the concept of the document after downloading it!! obv i haven't read it so far but separating fact from interpretation is my ideal of lore discussions. very cool im impressed :^)

i think its a crying shame when people's interpretation of a text begins and ends with being told other people's interpretations. i would hope that people use this as a jumping point to form their own ideas (regardless of whether or not they pan out in full; ive chased so many dead ends now lol. and thats part of the fun!!!!)

thank you for considering reading "you hunted"! i would love to know people's thoughts on it and which parts they disagree with more than anything so we can bicker amicably about it. for people who want to read my huge work-in-progress document exploring bloodborne lore, you can download it for free from my website here

i need to get on top of my comic before i can get back to working on it further, but im at the tail end of the worst part of trying to interpret this text (trying to untangle the fucking timeline!!!!!!!) and the final stretch is haunting me.

[textbookjuicebox]

An updated WIP and more Links for Quartets AU that needs a better name.

Some story if anyone's interested, there's more in terms of like, Quartet pre-split, some specifics during the Four Swords games, but I'm really just piecing this together as it comes to me.

Link pulls the Four Sword to defeat Vaati, splitting into Shamrock, Azalea, Delphin, and Verbena. They maintsin the ability to refuse using the sword, although they have rejected the name Link in favor of Quartet.

Upon defeating and sealing the wind mage, the heros choose to seal themselves in the sword as well to be sure that if he was to ever escape Hyrule would be safe.

Ths Four Sword Sanctuary remains undisturbed until A Link To The Past, in which the sword has somehow (working on it) been transported to the dark world / Palace of the Four Sword. This switch has somehow corrupted the heros with Vaatis magic (again, working on it. Vaati is gone tho.), the Link of this time fights them assuming they're Dark Links or something, but this actually frees them from the corruption and they become an ally to Link, who they allow to wield their sword.

After the adventures of this Link (later nickednamed Dreamer or Savior by Quartet) they are once again returned to the sword until another adventurer finds them. This is the Link of Zelda 1, (also later nicknamed but currently undecided).

I plan on expanding on this more, especially Dreamer because Quartet also definitely accompanies him for LA (Based on Realm of Memories). They're definitely sealed through the events of ALBW, TFH, and EOW, I'm unsure if they're with Dreamer during the Oracle games. I do think they accompany Link #2 in TOAL tho.

Now. Four Swords happens before the timeline split, and Four Swords Adventures does not happen in the same one as all of this. I know it's non-canon but I am going with a BOTW / TOTK is a timeline merge universe, so although these are technically two different versions of Quartet / The Garden, they later merge into one while sealed in the sword and are pretty unaware of the fact time screwed up.

So in this timeline the Four Sword has remained completely undisturbed since the events of the original and it pretty much follows as expected except instead of there being a new Link to pull the sword and break the seal, it's broken naturally by Vaatis power and Quartet comes along with to save the maidens and Zelda. They manage to defeat Vaati and redeem Shadow because I really like him, he's neat. Shadow isn't as powerful as he is through their adventure though, I think I'm taking the ideas from the manga where he sacrificed himself and all that, but the gang brings him back as their actual shadow and he accompanies them in the sword.

They remain sealed until TOTK, where Link finds them in the Great Sky Islands. I have no reason for them being there YET I just wanted him to find them early. Dreamer doesn't face Quartet until he's able to enter the Palace, which is basically the end of the game iirc, I'm undecided when Link #2 gets them but it's likely pretty early as well.

TOTK Links nickname is Ruin or Tatters, unfortunately Quartet (mostly Delphin ngl) is a bit of a jerk to him at first. Not very impressed.

For the third timeline with WW, PH, ST, they are never reawoken with or without Vaati and the Four Sword was lost to time (and the flood probably).

Also. No one say anything about the swords. They're SO HARD TO DRAW 😭