#brentanos

[empirearchives]

“He stopped, looked up and stared at me fixedly, tears fell from my eyes, I trembled and could not hold myself together.”

— Bettina Brentano’s reaction to seeing Napoleon in August of 1807

Source: Kathleen M. Hallihan, Following Bonaparte, Images of Napoleon in the Works of Bettina von Arnim

[flowers-and-fichte]

Schlegel: Fighting with my brother about which fruit would win if they were sentient and could fight.

Kleist: Obviously pineapple.

Achim: Except coconut would kick its ass...

Heine: Uh...have you seen a durian before?

Schiller: Dragonfruit is the obvious right answer.

Goethe: That's ridiculous. Pomegranate is known as "grenade" in many languages, e.g. "grenade" in French, "grenade apple" in Swedish...

Bettine: Grapefruit, duh.

Fichte: Obviously the kiwi, as it's the only fruit that can fly. I mean, how would you even fight back?

Humboldt: But kiwis don't fly. Neither the birds nor the fruit.

Tieck: Tomato obviously. It would be hanging out with the vegetables and no one would notice until the other fruits kill each other off, then it swoops in and claims victory.

Brentano: Pumpkins are pretty tough.

Eichendorff: Jackfruit. Have you ever seen those fuckers?

Kleist: CAN'T YOU SEE FRUIT VS. FRUIT BATTLES ARE TEARING US ALL APART?!?!?!?!?!

*everyone arguing*

Novalis: Grapes.

*everyone stops and looks in Novalis's direction*

Novalis: What? They're like a...little...purple...gang.

[morphmaker]

forget about "top or bottom" discourse, you're either a bettine or a günderode

[notgilderoylockhart]

Habe letztens Goethe‘s Briefwechsel mit Bettina Brentano gefunden. Bzw. jemand hat es auf Discord dramatisch vorgetragen

Betti girlbosses ein bisschen zu nah an der Sonne, ich verstehs, aber Mausi, da hätte ich nochmal drübergelesem. Der Fakt dass sie auch erst mit seiner Mutter geschrieben hat… UND DANN SEINE ANTWORT

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[heinrichheineee]

“I can’t write poetry like you, Günderrode, but I can talk with nature... And when I come back... we put our beds side by side and chat away together all night... great profound speculations which make the old world creak on its rusty hinges.”

— Bettina von Arnim (1785-1859) in a letter to Karoline von Günderrode [A virtuoso muse, Jan Swafford]

[captious-solarian]

Works about a young person so attractive that it brings them misery, shrinks their world more and more, and eventually dooms them:

Zu Bacharach am Rheine by Clemens Brentano

I'm Too Sexy by Right Said Fred

[maaarine]

Enactive Cognition in Place (Miguel A. Sepulveda-Pedro, 2023)

“In the philosophical jargon, intentionality concerns the aboutness of experiences: my perception, for instance, is about the maple tree in the garden of my neighbor, my memory is of my friend who has recently died, my imagining is of the Minotaur of Crete, and my thoughts are about who will win the presidential election in the United States.

In these examples, we find that the objects my mental acts refer to have different modes of presentation.

In some cases, the objects are currently present (e.g., the tree I see through the window).

In other cases, they are absent (e.g., my dead friend), while in others, they are simply unreal (e.g., the Minotaur).

An important lesson follows from this: In Brentano’s eyes, intentionality does not imply the intended object’s presence (or absence). (…)

On the one hand, for non-present and unreal objects, the references of our mental acts cannot be physical objects that are currently present.

So far, this is clear. On the other hand, although objects of perception may be physically present, their presence is only partial.

The maple tree I see through the window, for instance, shows me only one of its visual profiles (e.g., the upper part of the tree), yet my perceptual experience is not about this piece of the tree but the whole tree.

Therefore, it seems that my experiences never refer directly to physical objects, not even in perception; instead, they seem to be mediated by something standing between the physical reality of the world and subjective states of the mind.

This is the birthplace of Brentano’s representationalism. (…)

The contents of my experiences are, according to these theories, copies of physical reality; they are mental representations.

That is clear, for representationalists, in the cases of imagination and memory, where the objects of my experience are not “in the flesh”—any experience of these objects must, they would argue, be representations.

However, they further argue that the same is true in cases of perception, where my vision of the maple tree is not really about the physical tree but a mental representation of the tree.

For this reason, even if the physical nature of my senses gives me only one profile of the object, my experience is about the whole object.”

[ochoislas]

SERENATA NOCTURNA

Oye, la flauta se queja, rumoran frescos veneros. Dorados halos descienden: ¡silencio, calla! ¡escuchemos!

Ruego gentil, suave anhelo, ¡cómo le habla al corazón! En la noche que me encierra guiña la luz de este son.

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ABENDSTÄNDCHEN

Hör‘, es klagt die Flöte wieder, Und die kühlen Brunnen rauschen. Golden weh‘n die Töne nieder, Stille, stille, laß uns lauschen!

Holdes Bitten, mild Verlangen, Wie es süß zum Herzen spricht! Durch die Nacht, die mich umfangen, Blickt zu mir der Töne Licht.

Clemens Brentano

di-versión©ochoislas

[bananartista]

(In)equilibrio - forme impercettibili - Entity N° 16064

Scale di grigio su pixel

[famousdeaths]

German writer Clemens Brentano was a key figure of Romanticism, known for his poetry and novels, including "Godwi" and "Geschichten aus dem Leben hervorragender Damen".

Link: Clemens Brentano

[flowers-and-fichte]

Concept: Goethe, Schiller, the Schlegels, Kleist, Humboldt, Novalis, Achim, Bettine, Clemens Brentano, and Heine singing "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)" by the proclaimers.

[cocainaenvenenada]

[vonneumannmachine]

¿Consciencia sin sujeto?

Una perspectiva en el desarrollo de máquinas conscientes (o con mente, si equiparamos ambos conceptos) es construir artefactos con capacidad de representarse a sí mismos. A priori, podría parecer una perspectiva errónea ya que cuando somos conscientes de algo no necesariamente nos representamos a nosotros mismos. Si yo soy consciente del color rojo de una amapola, la amapola no forma parte de mí…

[rosesandfrills]

Just found a writing notebook I had forgotten about and one entry under random ideas is just "Crowley as Lore Lay, make the poem gay" which is honestly a mood. Might still write that, but without the whole suicide due to a broken heart thing because that's just not the vibe. Maybe take out the missing lover and make Aziraphale one of the knights.

Question is if anyone outside Germany would actually have any interest in that or if I should just cater to the like three people who might be the target audience and write it in German.

[bocadosdefilosofia]

«19. Rasgo característico común de todo lo psíquico. —El rasgo característico común de todo lo psíquico consiste en eso que frecuentemente se ha designado con el nombre de conciencia  —expresión, por desgracia, muy expuesta a malentendidos—; es decir, consiste en una actitud del sujeto, en una referencia intencional —que así ha sido llamada— a algo que, acaso, no sea real, pero que, sin embargo, está dado interiormente como objeto. No hay audición sin algo oído, ni creencia sin algo creído, ni esperanza sin algo esperado, ni aspiración sin algo a que se aspira, ni regocijo sin algo de que nos regocijemos, y así sucesivamente.»

Franz Brentano: El origen del conocimiento moral. Real Sociedad Económica Matritense de Amigos del País, pág. 27. Madrid, 1990.

TGO

@bocadosdefilosofia

[tagitables]

Franz Brentano (1938 - 1917)