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bitchkay · 1 year ago

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Yall really want me to autisticly word vomit all over this page👁👁

@sophiaredwood03 @brainpancollectionsite

Damn if yall insist🙄✋🏽

What I'm thinking about references ALOT from guys path and maybe a few events as well as other consort paths so SPOILERS but I'm mostly just talking about Guys family, the lore surrounding him and his relationships with his family and what ages they can possibly be

When estimating ages I always like to start with these three boys because of what their age gaps are implied to be and go from there and place every one else inbetween or some such

Now Guy and Toa are somewhat implied to be the oldest of the seven princes

Any and almost all info and mentions of times passing are few and far between and very ambiguous unless that's the focus of the story ex. anniversary/birthday events where the passing of time is literally commemorated but it's still not very informative. Even casual implications of time passing aren't very informative cus it's usually shit like 'the next day' or 'a few days later' and you don't really get a good grasp of how actually long its been like has it been a week?? a month??? 3 days???? 4 days????? We also don't really know how time passes in Saligia, a few days could be equivalent to a month on earth for all we know

All that said we don't actually know the age gaps between the princes really at all except that some of them are the same age

But we'll start here

Toa and Guy are- at least I think, are the oldest of the 7 princes.

I think Toa is older (Toa remembers when Guy was born and how his studies got more rigorous because Guy was notably gifted and was trying to "catch up") his birthday is in July and Guys birthday is in November which would make them 5 months apart if they were born in the same year so I think they're definitely at least 1 year apart

Guy and Aquia are suposed to be close in age

One of the reasons Aquia attends the academy other then how he's second inline for the thrown is because him and Guy are closer in age then they both are to Zev

While by my memory it wasn't worded that they did mention Aquia being the brother closest in age. I specifically remember the short phase "closest in age". My interpretation of this being that the age gap between Aquia and Zev is larger then the age gap between Guy and Aquia.

How large tho?

I'm not sure if Aquia was around when Guys mother died but if he was how young/old was he?

Queen Min Avari – the first queen – Guys mother, was apparently Rocs favorite. King Roc was definitely in love with her considering the amount of resentment Rahm has for her.

Rahm literally tried to kill Guy not only because she wanted Aquia to take the throne but also because she knew Queen Min was Roc favorite and couldn't stand being "second choice"

Which apparently to her means 'yup time to kill her off spring😋' /j

We learn in the event "a view to marriage" an Avarian king is allowed to have more than one queen, maybe not to the point of Luxure having several hundred queen consorts but it wouldn't be uncommon to have a wife or two

And if Roc did love Min where did this ideology that women only want power come from?

Because on multiple occasions Guy has expressed how certain things MC has done reminded of his mother so we can assume that Min was at least a kind person

After Guy's mother died he shut out alot of people and kept arround the people that were closest to him

Aquia knows of this side of Guy in my opinion quite well so I think we can assume yes Aquia was around when Guys mother died

Guy seems to hold alot of fond memories of his mother but I'm pretty sure he was young when she died too, cus I don't think he knows alot about her either, I think he mentioned it in his path

He definitely wasn't grown when she died cus while yes if my mom was killed at my big age it would still be devastating but Zev most definitely wasn't even much of a thought at the time, bro was a sperm swimming arround in Rocs balls💀

I'll touch on Zev in a moment

If Guy was young at the time, how young was he? How old was Aquia?

I think we can assume Min and Rahm were queens at the same time and yes despite how literally fucking insane Rahm is she was not Mins killer. That's proven at the end of Guys path when he uses ancient magic on her to tell the truth.(he asks her specifically if she killed his mother)

If Aquia knows what Guy was like during his mourning period to a degree it's safe to assume he was there, then he had to have been at least sentient. Conscientious of his existence and memories and some such.

Most children become aware that they're y'know people around 3-6 year's old, some children don't have that kind of realization and just kinda wake up one day knowing that yeah they're a person, they have thoughts and autonomy and they can actually control their bodies. For a thaumaturge maybe they realize there's magic running through their veins. Alot of thaumaturges (mc asked around for when they casted their first spell) have said they casted their first spell as a toddler so their mini epiphany can literally just be when they realize they can control it actually and not just think something it happens.

At the very least Aquia had to be 6-7, AT MOST maybe 9

But how old does that make Guy?

If Aquia is 7 Guy is clearly some bit older than him cus obviously

I'm gonna say 10, any older and we start moving into preteen areas

Guy also had Jasper at the time

Alot of valets except for Knight and Violet(and Lance's valet Zeneau as well as Jay) has been with their charges since childhood, spending a portion of that childhood together both as children

Jasper mentions playing with Guy as kids, Grayson also mentions something similar about Roy and Sherry, Rio taking in Thoma from the orphanage as a child, Tinos also been serving Lynt for a long time but I'm not sure if its from childhood but Tino definitely reminisces on a younger Lynt

The valets are older than their princes an amount but in Jaspers book two it mentions specifically that Jasper is an older man

I don't think he's crazy older but maybe a good amount

Just to be clear I think MC is around 25 or something like that maybe a little older like 27

If Guy was around 10 when his mom died Jasper could've been a young teen maybe 14 or something

They did play together as kids so I think that age gap isn't too big

If they played together they could've been 8 and 4, I don't really have to consider when they were born too much because Jaspers birthday is in September, Guy's birthday in November, so they both have late birthdays

I'm gonna back track a little and say what if Aquia wasn't around at the time and Rahm hadn't married Roc yet

I kinda wanna talk about his relationship

I kinda wanna stick by Guy being around 10 when his mother died

If we assume Aquia actually wasn't around when Guys mother died and Rahm hadn't married into the royal family yet, when did Rahm come around and when was Aquia born

Min Avari is said to be Rocs favorite, and according to Rahm said she will always be his first queen

If Roc really was in love with her, how long until he moved on with Rahm?

Also let me just say Roc married Rahm because she knew Min. No other motives. I'm not gonna say anything else about that.

I think Addis Ira is an example of not needing a queen to run a kingdom but at the same time it's Addis Ira, can we really use him as an example for anything?🤨

Addis Ira essentially killed Lance's mom by knowingly letting her die of a very curable disease and I don't think they were ever together in the first place

Oh shit I just looked it up and apparently they were married damn😶😶 her name is Irina Ira (I just know she pretty😋)

Bruh if they were married why the fuck was she and Lance living in poverty for the first part of Lance's life⁉️⁉️⁉️ BRO WAS LIVING IN BEAT UP TENT IN THE DESERT WHILE HIS DAD WAS-- imma stop cus... imma stop

Uh anyway that's fucked up moving on...

But yea I don't think it's actually required to have a queen but Roc can definitely have more than one if he wanted to.

Roc went through a period of mourning after Guys mom died too cus I mean shit that's still his wife, mother of his child and literally his queen. According to Guy everything changed after his mother died

If Min truely was Rocs favorite, his first queen, how long was he mourning for? How long until he decided to bring another queen to the kingdom?? And is this where his ideology that all women want is power started??? Was every woman he met after that selfish??

Guy and Aquia are suposed to be close in age so it couldn't have been too long

What if Rahm actually was around but Aquia wasn't born yet?

There's still the possibility that Min and Rahm were queens at the same time Aquia could've just not been born yet

Whether he was still a little sperm swimming arround in Rocs balls or a fertilized egg marinating in Rahms coochie

It's less complicated to figure out if we just assume Aquia was around at the time

Cus then I'd have to infer when Rahm became queen, how long Rahm was was queen for or when Roc decided to slam shorty into the mattress so she's pregnant, absolutely fucking her up, drilling her shit, rearranging her reproductive system, truly messing up her coochie(that should've been mE😭‼‼) so Aquia can be born

That's alot of thinking and I don't wanna do it😋

So we'll assume Aquia was 7 and Guy was 10 when Min Avari died

Actually I'm gonna dub the ages down a bit hold on

I'm gonna say Aquia was 6, Guy was 9, so Jasper can probably be 13 at the time Min Avari died.

Going back up to the top then we can then assume Toa was 10 at the time, maybe 11 considering his birthday comes first

Now onto Zev

Zev's a tricky one cus we don't really know how he he fits into the rest of the lore or how big the age gap really is

He wasn't really around when Guys mom died but he's definitely grown enough to mingle in the same spaces with his brothers now without being told off

Definitely old enough to drink that's for sure

We don't even know the drinking age in Saligia hold up, all we know is that yup they are definitely old enough

His mother also is something of an anomaly

The third Queen of Avari

She has a name, I forget what it was but it starts with a T????? Trina???? Tori?????? I think it's something like that

The wiki says unknown mother but I remember someone said it was mentioned in a story and how she's super nice and stuff but don't take my word for it cus this me remembering a Discord chat about it

When did Zevs mom become queen and when was Zev born?

Yall I actually found the Discord messages💀💀

Zevs moms name is Torina. Torina Avari and according to Guy is the nicest person

Yall I was so close😭😭 I guessed Trina and Tori and then look her names Torina😼 all I had to do was combine them like💀

And shit if that's Guys opinion than she really must be nice fr and not 'irritatingly nice' actually nice, kind hearted" in his words

I think Roc has a type😶(except Rahm, Roc never truely loved Rahm, I don't even think he liked her either tbh)

I'm still tryna figure how the ideology that woman only want power came to fruition cus all Rocs wives have been good people, like I even think Rahm was good before she was filled with jealous rage

Like is he picking these women because they can raise his children for him or something??????????????????

Is this an ideology that's been in his head since before he married????? And if so all your wives are decent, why tell your son that woman are evil if you clearly love pum pum--

Is the fact that they married him the power what they wanted and they just good with that like are they like "alright I'm queen now, time to have this mans babies😋😋"

Also considering we got three sons already it's at this point determined Roc shoots out boy baby seeds into the vagina garden

And plus I think all three sons look like they mama too, idk what Min or Torina look like but I just know they sons like like them😌

Although Gilbert Qelsum shot 3 girl seeds before getting a boy so you never know

What do you think would happen if Roc was a girl dad😳😳

ANYWAY HOLY SHIT imma get back on track

Back on Zev(its me, I'm on Zev😈)

There isn't much lore surrounding Zev or specific moments in the backstory that specifically have Zev in them or moments with Zev that imply he was around during a certain time

So it's hard to draw certain conclusions

This I can say for sure(kind of) the age gap between Aquia and Zev is bigger than the age gap between Guy and Aquia

Unlike the two elder brothers Zev kinda just happened, like he was introduced and that was it, he's a character now and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the circumstances of his birth were similar

Zev likely was unexpected or not entirely unplanned for, but that DOES NOT mean unwanted

Zev was most likely born after the events of the past have already gone and blown over or at least wasn't sentient at the time or too young to remember. Zev very much stomps to the beat of his own drum and is very expressive compared to his older siblings, and though he stays in Avari with his own duties in the kingdom rather than at the academy with Guy and Aquia he carries himself alot freeier than them if that makes any type of sense

No way he's without his own hardships or even his own traumas but like he was (probably) born after Guys mom had already died or too young to remember so the side of Guy that's closed off and cold and the side of Aquia that wants to follow Guy around like his shadow(as kids mind) is all he's really ever known

Even their dynamic as adults is like this, where Zev is very outgoing and loves flirting with woman and talking to people, whereas Guy is indifferent to crowd and find it somewhat of a bother, and Aquia doesn't mind the crowd but will probably stay close to Guy until told otherwise

However

Zev and Aquia are very similar in their admiration for Guy

They both want to stick by his side and gain his approval, of course they care about him as a brother too but Guy was also a prodigy, named notably gifted and very proficient at magic from a very young age and seems to be good at everything hes ever tried. For a little kid that's huge, it gives you something to look up to, something that you wish you could have even a fraction of and knowing you're related to him, that he's your older brother, that on it's own will build the basis of their hero worship for Guy, whether or not Guy pays mind to them or not

The only difference between Aquia and Zev is that Aquias admiration for Guy is very obvious but it's obvious in the way how Sherry can't cook but no one has the heart to tell her that she can't cook, but everyone knows that she cant cook💀

Except for Sherry.

I think Zev was born in the same decade as Guy and Aquia but later in the decade

Example using easy numbers, I inferred that Guy and Aquia are three years apart (9yrs and 6yrs) say Guy was born in the year 2000, Aquia would've been born 2003, I think Zev would've probably been born 2008 or something, 2009, those times there

Zev doesn't have a birthday so I can't really use that

Aquias born in August btw, he got a birthday when his consort path released on the jp server

But yeah that would make Zev 5-6 years younger than Aquia, 8-9 years younger than Guy

If Guy was 9 when his mom died and Aquia was 6, Zev probably wasn't born yet or was really super young, like freshly birthed young, wrinkly and raw fresh out the coochie kind of young

But if this was the case does that mean that all three queens were together at the same time?

If Guys mother was freshly 😵 and Rahm was already a queen for at least 6 years and Torina was queen for at least 9 months(a full term pregnancy) that would mean they've were queens at the same time together

Would that put them in the same category as sister wives😳😳

I can't even think to estimate how old they would be in the game currently cus time is so strange not to mention these mfs age slower because of the magic running through their veins like this magic shit is like some anti aging serum

These mf could well be 100 year old like

Cus haven't these bitches been at the academy for 10 years???????????????????

Dias been there for for his whole damn childhood, been thru all his godamn awkward phases at that godamn school, bros been there since he was 10 then became a student when he was old enough💀

LOU IS EVEN OLDER TOO

BRO WAS HEADMASTERING IT UP WHEN THE KINGS WERE STUDENTS THEMSELVES LIKE BRO IS A VAMPIRE 1800 YEARS OLD ASS BITCH

If we go with my example of Guy and them being born in the 2000s today in 2023 that would make Guy 22(because his birthday is in November) Aquia, 19(because his birthday is on the 22nd of August, so the end of this month) and Zev 15, we don't know his birthday so I can't even be specific

Those ages feel so wrong💀💀

If someone told me Guy was 22 I'd side eye the hell outta them because bro does not look 22💀

and also I literally wanna fuck Zev I SWEAR TO GOD I DON'T LIKE KIDS I SWEAR TO GOD THAT BOY IS NOT 15 THAT IS ALL TYPES OF NO

Plus Zevs old enough to drink, and not that underage drinking doesn't happen but if a 15 year old went to a bar they'd not even just get kicked out but have their mother called on them cus boy wtf you doing in a goddamn tavern🤨🤨

But I also chose those years because they're easy to work with, I am not good at math

But we have the foundation of the the ages and can flesh them out from there

Figuring out age gaps are the first step to figuring out their ages because then you know how far apart they are in age so no matter how old they are that fact is fixed

Let's make Guy 32

If Guy is 32, Toa is 33

If Guy is 32, Jasper is 36

Aquia would be 29

Zev would be 23

Those feel like more reasonable ages for them and if they really are hundreds of years old cus they're fucking thaumaturges just add a 0 at the end💀

This mf Jasper is 360 years old cuh��😤

Yeah

I think imma stop here cus I been typing alot, this post is so long already

But yeah that's basically the long version of THE START of how you can interpret ages and you can flesh out the rest from this point and place the other characters around or in between them☆

When you really think about it

Guy, Aquia, and Zev are perfect examples oldest–middle–youngest sibling syndrome

Cus first of all Aquia gives such middle sibling energy

People really do not pay him no mind💀

If Aquia wasn't such a sweetheart he could really be out here in these streets and nobody would know and possibly not care and that actually kinda sad

People pleaser, especially in regards to Guy, he really just wants Guys attention and approval SIMPLY AS A BROTHER but doesn't think hes worthy of Guys attention because he admires him so much, hes really independent but hes good at making good friends/companions, he's something of a peacemaker I guess hes good at being a mediator I thinks, Aquias actually kinda shy and pretty complicit so he doesn't fit into the 'act out for attention' stereotype unless someone can prove me wrong

Aquia is quiet too, like have yall clocked how invisible Aquia would probably be without the Avari name attached to him

I think Zev is the only one that's really ever given him a chance to talk but at the same time Zev loves to talk and loves the attention

Zev annoying Guy and Jasper in the short stories

That literally has youngest sibling written all over it

I would know.

Definitely spoiled, just wants attention bruh, will annoy talk to his older brothers at any opportunity, very extroverted, open(bro has no filter), sense of humor of the family-- "You've gotten so big, how old are you? 18?" "I'm 23." feels like hes been the same age for too damn long

Also Zev is a whore(affectionate but also derogatory but in a "I care about you" criticism kind of way) the youngest child is often never truely seen as full grown or able to reach the same level as their older siblings and while I think theres other things going on in there as well as think it could be completely unrelated, I conspire that Zevs "leisure pursuits" are a way for him to 'grow up' a little faster

And then we have Guy

Specifically oldest son cus oldest daughter is a WHOLE different category.

Indifferent to most things at this point, stubborn, not very expressive, domineering, more or less tolerates his younger brothers but wont go out of his way to entertain them, but were the opportunity to arise and he thinks they deserve it hed take them out just for a brief respite cus they're still his baby brothers, entitlement, old enough to drink around parents and know the juicy family gossip with older folks, shows signs of narcissism, "When are you going to get married?"

Being a child prodigy of some sort dosen't help his case either💀

Like ok gifted kid😋😋

Let's be honest all three of these boys need to go to therapy💀

Well I think everyone can benefit from therapy--

But this family INCULDING RAHM AVARI‼ ESPECIALLY RAHM‼‼ they need some group therapy, family therapy in here

I feel like I have to talk about ages again💀

I've probably made 3 posts about how the fuck do you even perceive how old they are now I'm thinking about yk these three and what their age differences are implied to be but that in relation to the lore associated with this corner of Avari-- yall lemne stop before I go off on a tangent hold on

#court of darkness #guy avari #aquia avari #zev avari #toa qelsum #jasper lane #voltage inc #kay's self reblogs

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