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Siege and Storm- Chapter 17 (Leigh Bardugo)
Alina's lying once again, this time to make her new favs look better and cleverer than the Darkling. We all know he's the bigoted one, who's crippling his subordinates by forcing them into his preferred lifestyle, when the alternative is so much more reasonable and so attractive, should poor Second Army know about it!
Except Shadow and Bone- Chapter 17 tells us:
I suggest two possibilities:
Alina's group's made of Grisha so young they haven't been in the field yet, so although taught to fight in many ways, they lean too much into their instinctual responses. Ěxcept that would make me question Botkin's abilities as an instructor, since he's the one to teach them AND it's disproved in first book too- when Zoya attacks Alina, we learn they're NOT allowed to use their powers during their martial arts training (“Zoya!” Botkin roared. “You do not use power. Not in these rooms. Never in these rooms!” S&B Chapter 11).
Alina made herself forget, because her beloved Malyen reacted negatively here, and she tends to avoid topics he doesn't like.
#Grishaverse#S&S Chapter 17#Alina Starkov#The Darkling#Second Army#grishanalyticritical#Second pseudoArmy#Bataar twins#Botkin Yul Erdene#S&B Chapter 17#S&B Chapter 11#self centred and paranoid#Malyen Oretsev#Siege and Storm#Grisha trilogy#V#books#quotes#Leigh Bardugo#anti Malina
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#shadow and bone#siege and storm#ruin and rising#six of crows#crooked kingdom#king of scars#rule of wolves#grishaverse#fandom poll#shadow & bone#mal oretsev#tolya yul bataar#nadia zhabin#zoya nazyalensky#hanne brum#harshaw#privyet#david kostyk#fedyor kaminsky#leoni hilli#botkin yul erdene#anya#Anya the Healer#Anya should say healer whoopsie!
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Round 1B: Botkin vs Fedyor
#botkin yul erdene#fedyor kaminsky#grishaverse#shadow and bone#the grisha trilogy#ravka bracket#ravka bracket 1#ravka bracket 1b#fandom polls#fandom bracket
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#botkin yul erdene#colm fahey#six of crows#grisha trilogy#grishaverse men tournament#grishaverse polls#grishaverse men poll#grishaverse men contest#grishaverse men#grishaverse netflix
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#grishaverse#shadow and bone#s&b#sab#shadow and bone netflix#s&b netflix#the grisha trilogy#fandom polls#my polls#grishaverse polls#the grisha series#botkin#botkin yul erdene#mod prefers the book character#its an actual tragedy that we didnt get to see more of show botkin#especially give show alinas shu heritage
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Article about Botkin and Alina that we didn’t get to see that I agree with
“To add another thing about spending more time on worldbuilding, the series would have benefitted massively from exploring Shu Han if they intended on bringing in half-Shu Alina. There’s been a lot of criticism for the racism Alina faces in the series, with many people saying the slurs that she is called are unnecessary and are heavy-handed. But the problem lies in the fact that we don’t know anything about Shu Han other than the fact that it’s a neighboring country that is warring with Ravka. At least we meet another Fjerdan in Matthias. The only other Shu character is Botkin who is played by Hon Ping Tang, who acts as the combat instructor at the Little Palace.
In the books, Botkin was once a mercenary who fought in multiple wars and a fearsome warrior. He trains Alina when she arrives at the Little Palace and we get scenes between the two of them where he teaches her to fight. Botkin is also known for favoring other Shu and notably gifted Alina a Grisha Steel knife. And when she thanked him he replied, “Not ‘thank you,'” he said. he tapped the ugly scar at his throat. “Steel is earned.” So why didn’t we get a scene between Alina and Botkin, one where he is training her and gifting her a Grisha steel dagger?
The racism Alina faces is very real and not something that is out of the normal for people of color, but you can’t show the racism without talking about the race. I could have done with fewer meadow flashback scenes and maybe with more scenes between Alina and Botkin where she finds a mentor who doesn’t hit her with a stick or manipulate her, and instead is fair and offers her a bit of solace when it comes to feeling out of place.”
- Therese Lacson
https://www.comicsbeat.com/best-and-worst-of-shadow-and-bone/
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Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: The Grisha Trilogy - Leigh Bardugo Rating: Mature Warnings: Major Character Death Characters: Original Grisha Character, Botkin Yul-Erdene, The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova Additional Tags: Action, Canon-Typical Violence, Keramzin Summary:
Having failed to attract the Sun Summoner's attention with his attack on West Ravka, the Darkling takes his forces to Keramzin, her childhood home, and current residence of the Grisha school. The Grisha teachers, their combat instructor, some of the older students and a handful of others mount a desperate defence. For one of the Grisha, her first battle will shape her in ways she does not expect.
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I reread the main trilogy and realised that the ‘steel is earned’ quote was actually originally from Botkin! Zoya probably picked it up from him since he was her instructor (imagine young Zoya training diligently in order to ‘earn her steel’) Zoya was also described as his ‘star pupil’ and I think their relationship has the same vibes as Zoya and Juris in KoS
#i like how the quote is brought up again in KoS#it's similar to the 'fear is a phoenix' quote#grishaverse#zoya nazyalensky#nikolai lantsov#botkin yul-erdene#sankt juris#h rambles
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Chapters: 7/? the final chapter of the first arc is here!
Fandom:
The Grisha Trilogy - Leigh Bardugo
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Shadow and Bone (TV)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova/Alina Starkov, The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova & Alina Starkov, Ivan & Alina Starkov, David Kostyk & Alina Starkov, Ivan & Fedyor Kaminsky, I/F implied
Characters: Alina Starkov, Original Characters, The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova, Ivan (The Grisha Trilogy), David Kostyk, Fedyor Kaminsky, Botkin Yul-Erdene, Zoya Nazyalensky
Additional Tags: (is it just me or relationships in Grisha tag are kinda limited?), Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Alina is taken to the Little Palace as a kid, everybody thinks Alina is Inferni, and nobody suspects the truth. so far, dialogues? don't know them, (when they come they will be awful), author's favorite: the way Alina gets her first amplifier, no beta we die like ships in canon, if i tag one line of library porn u ll probably misunderstood me..., the first part of the series is perfectly Gen, it's not the first time my tags are disaster, if u're reylos look at my SW works and u ll see, i’d tag Alina & Zoya but it’s more like Alina vs Zoya, big brother Ivan, is Alina using her powers without realizing it? well, the kitchen raids have the purpose other than to fatten up our heroine, the author hits herself to close to home when the fic mentions, Bullying, vaguely but still. that’s the, Angst, in here but we also have, Fluff, Humor, Found Family, and i forgot to mention ch1’s, A Very Different Take on The Meadow Scene, Fistfight, Slytherin Alina, oh just wait for the way ch6 ends!, the strangest object of hero worship EVER
Series: Part 1 of
grisha classification
Summary:
What if young Alina was taken to the Little Palace... as Inferni?
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by Anonymous
General Kirigan unintentionally romances Alina simply by showing a few soft gestures. It made his intentional romancing a whole lot easier.
A drabble series where The Darkling already has Alina's heart by the Winter Fete.
Words: 1123, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: The Grisha Trilogy - Leigh Bardugo, Shadow and Bone (TV)
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: Multi
Characters: Genya Safin, General Kirigan (Shadow and Bone), Alina Starkov, Mal Oretsev, Ivan (The Grisha Trilogy), Baghra (The Grisha Trilogy), Marie (The Grisha Trilogy), Nadia Zhabin, Zoya Nazyalensky, Botkin Yul-Erdene
Relationships: The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova/Alina Starkov, Mal Oretsev & Alina Starkov
Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Misunderstandings, Explicit Sexual Content, Emotional Manipulation, Power Imbalance, Age Difference, Romance, Unhealthy Relationships, Pregnancy, Aged-Up Character(s)
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by Knighthawk01
Emery Tarasovna is Tidemaker at the little palace whose life takes an unexpected change.
Emery’s stomach drops at the sight of the Darkling’s second and most powerful heartrenders. The two heartrenders come to a halt before her. “Miss. Tarasovna the Darkling wishes to speak with you,” Ivan says, his voice stern. “Come in,” a deep voice calls. Butterflies form in her stomach as the doors open to reveal the Darkling hunched over a pile of papers and maps. His slate eyes moving side to side as he reads the one in his hand. The Darkling looks younger than Emery expected. With raven black hair perfectly combed back and baby smooth pale skin, he didn’t look much older than Emery, despite the fact that he had been leading the first army since long before Emery was born. Growing up in the little palace she was taught Grisha theory and knew that some Grisha live longer lives but she had always thought they would look much older as the years dragged on but now she’s not so sure. Emery questions how old he really is and if he would tell the truth if she asked. Her nerves start to kick in again. Ivan cleared his throat causing the Darkling to look up. His eyes immediately meet Emery’s.
Words: 1092, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: The Grisha Trilogy - Leigh Bardugo, Grishaverse - Fandom, Six of Crows Series - Leigh Bardugo
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence
Categories: F/F, F/M
Characters: Alina Starkov, Nikolai Lantsov, The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova, Baghra (The Grisha Trilogy), Emery Tarasovna, Fedyor Kaminsky, Ivan (The Grisha Trilogy), Genya Safin, David Kostyk, Zoya Nazyalensky, Botkin Yul-Erdene, Nadia Zhabin, Marie (The Grisha Trilogy), Original Female Character(s), Original Male Character(s)
Additional Tags: The Little Palace (The Grisha Trilogy)
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ROUND 1B
Alina Starkov vs Marie
Luda vs Alexei Stepanov
Botkin Yul-Erdene vs Fedyor Kaminsky
Genya Safin vs Adrik Zhabin
Vasily Lantsov vs Nadia Zhabin
Tamar Kir-Bataar vs Sergei Beznikov
Harshaw vs Oncat
Nikolai Lantsov vs Isaak Andreyev
Round 1A is wrapped up. Round 2A will start Sunday night eastern time
#grishaverse#shadow and bone#the grisha trilogy#alina starkov#fedyor kaminsky#genya safin#tamar kir bataar#nikolai lantsov#ravka bracket#ravka bracket 1#ravka bracket 1b#fandom polls#fandom bracket
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and the favourite is... the BOOK portrayal! I'm sure this is likely because he is in the book for more than 5 seconds......
#he and alina get to bond a little#which we missed out on in the show#grishaverse#shadow and bone#s&b#sab#shadow and bone netflix#s&b netflix#the grisha trilogy#fandom polls#my polls#grishaverse polls#the grisha series#botkin#botkin yul erdene#mod prefers the book character
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Who is the Grisha teacher who lives in the small hut in the Gardens?
I’m not sure if we mentioned her anywhere on the main, but canonically, Baghra lives in a small hut on the grounds (near the lake, if I recall). Not much is known about her by most of our playable roles, but she’s a living amplifier!
Botkin Yul-Erdene doesn’t live in a hut and is not Grisha, but he’s a Shu war veteran who teaches the Grisha combat skills (often rather brutally).
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Chapters: 4/?
Fandom: The Grisha Trilogy - Leigh Bardugo, Shadow and Bone (TV) Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova/Alina Starkov, The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova & Alina Starkov, Ivan & Alina Starkov, David Kostyk & Alina Starkov, Ivan & Fedyor Kaminsky, I/F implied Characters: Alina Starkov, Original Characters, The Darkling | Aleksander Morozova, Ivan (The Grisha Trilogy), David Kostyk, Fedyor Kaminsky, Botkin Yul-Erdene, Zoya Nazyalensky Additional Tags: (is it just me or relationships in Grisha tag are kinda limited?), Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Alina is taken to the Little Palace as a kid, everybody thinks Alina is Inferni, and nobody suspects the truth. so far, dialogues? don't know them, (when they come they will be awful), author's favorite: the way Alina gets her first amplifier, no beta we die like ships in canon, if i tag one line of library porn u ll probably misunderstood me..., the first part of the series is perfectly Gen, it's not the first time my tags are disaster, if u're reylos look at my SW works and u ll see, i’d tag Alina & Zoya but it’s more like Alina vs Zoya, big brother Ivan, is Alina using her powers without realizing it? well, the kitchen raids have the purpose other than to fatten up our heroine, the author hits herself to close to home when the fic mentions, Bullying, vaguely but still. that’s the, Angst, in here but we also have, Fluff, Humor, Found Family, and i forgot to mention ch1’s, A Very Different Take on The Meadow Scene Series: Part 1 of grisha classification Summary:
What if young Alina was taken to the Little Palace... as Inferni?
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**update: i started fitting the 100 characters into shadow and bone roles, so, i think it’s safe to say trapped here. i will never actually write something like this, but it’s just where my brain goes still. list of who i think could be who, under the cut. (i am insane, and, i am aware of this fact — it’s alright.)
CHARACTERS:
clarke griffin as alina starkov
bellamy blake as malyen oretsev
blodreina (octavia blake) as the darkling
titus as the apparat
josephine lightbourne as genya safin
gabriel santiago as david kostyk
emori as tamar kir-bataar
otan as tolya yul-bataar
echo as nadia zhabin
harper mcintyre as marie
monty green as sergei beznikov
jasper jordan as harshaw
maya vie as oncat (lol)
charmaine diyoza as banghra
madi griffin as misha
indra as botkin yul-erdene
john murphy as nikolai lantsov
raven reyes as zoya nazyalensky
MAIN RELATIONSHIPS:
romantic bellarke, romantic josebriel, romantic echori, romantic murven, and platonic clurphy
happy friday elle! for our inaugural gwc - 🤝, 🎥 & 🖌
- sam || burninghoneyatdusk ❤️❤️
the questions are: what grishaverse character do you most relate to and why and what about the shadow and bone series are you most looking forward to and any grishaverse fic or fanart you want to write/create or are currently working on?
🤝 alina and mal — see my full explanation here.
🎥 i can’t wait to see the series from more than just alina’s perspective. while i did enjoy reading her thoughts on everything... i feel like it left a lot to interpretation. i’m not even really involved with any sort of fandom — but the amount of arguing i have already seen because people read the books differently is insane. selfishly, i hope it helps some people who seem to not understand mal at all see that he is not a bad guy; like, while alina was living in the little palace, mal was out there missing her.
🖌 i often say that something had to have enough potential, but poor enough execution for me to write fanfiction for (cough, the 100, cough) so i’m not sure if i will write anything for the grishaverse. i am also sort of intimidated by getting characters correct, especially at this point; ‘never say never’, though. i have been thinking about a least making some moodboards or even some social media au profiles or something but, i’m not sure that’s art.
(thanks for asking sam — @burninghoneyatdusk.)
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