#bj papa san

[remyfire]

[mashpoll]

BJ Papa San (s7 e16): B.J. becomes a surrogate father to a Korean family, but all of his help never seems like enough.

They Call the Wind Korea (s7 e8): Complete opposites Charles and Klinger are lost while traveling during a windstorm and stumble on a truckload of injured Greek soldiers.

[hhawkeye]

nobody in mash learning korean even though they were there for three or eleven years. whatever

[hballegro]

getting a lot of mileage out of my 'if not then why' folder wherein i keep many instances of 'if not then why'

including

[summerreign4077]

M*A*S*H Episodes With a Main Character’s Name in the Title.

Hawkeye Pierce

Dr. Pierce and Mr. Hyde

Carry On, Hawkeye

The Late Captain Pierce

Hawkeye

Hawkeye Get Your Gun

Hawk’s Nightmare

Commander Pierce

Bless You, Hawkeye

Give ‘Em Hell, Hawkeye

Margaret Houlihan

Hot Lips and Empty Arms

Margaret’s Engagement

The Abduction of Margaret Houlihan

Margaret’s Marriage

Hot Lips is Back in Town

Are You Now, Margaret?

Henry Blake

Henry, Please Come Home

The Trial of Henry Blake

Henry in Love

Abyssinia, Henry

Radar O’Reilly

Radar’s Report

Lt. Radar O’Reilly

Goodbye, Radar: Part 1

Goodbye, Radar: Part 2

Charles Winchester

The Winchester Tapes

Dr. Winchester and Mr. Hyde

Father Mulcahy

Mulcahy’s War

Sherman Potter

Potter’s Retirement

BJ Hunnicutt

BJ Papa San

Trapper, Frank, and Klinger are the only main characters who never had their names in an episode title.

[randomyaoimoments]

Hello, do you mind if I ask your fav BL based on this categories? But all category must have different BL titles.

Manhua

Manhwa

Manga

Omegaverse

Shounen ai

Younger top

Younger bottom

Seme redflag

Uke redflag

Most greenflag couple

Most redflag couple

Enemies to lovers

Childhood friend to lovers

School life

Thanks if you want to answer.

Hello there! thanks for asking :D to answer your question, Below are my personal favorite BL 😙 Hope you’ll enjoy reading it :D

Manhua :

- Fragile Relationship

Manhwa :

- BJ Alex

- Dangerous Convenience Store

- I Can Hear It Without A Microphone

- Legs Which Cannot Walk

- Perfect Buddy

- Pian Pian

- Rivalry 1

- Semantic Error

- Shutline

- Surge Looking For You

- Sweet Spot

- The Kang’s Yeesu

- The New Recruit

- The Time Between Dog And Wolf

- Walk On Water

Manga :

- Finder Series

- Cherry Magic!

- Dakaretai Otoko Ichii Ni Odosarete Imasu

- Itou-san

- Kiraide Isasete

- Honto Yajuu

- Saezuru Tori Wa Habatakanai

- Sasaki To Miyano

- The Alpha’s Bride

- The Titan’s Bride

Omegaverse :

- Heat And Run

- Kashikomarimashita, Destiny

- Kedamono Arashi series

- Kekkon Shite Kudasai!

- Okusama Wa Alpha

- Ou-sama to Puppy Love

- Remnant : Jujin Omegaverse

- Totsugimasen Kara!

- Usotsuki Na Tsugai

- You Who Wants To Love

Shounen ai :

- Boku-tachi Wa Mada Aoku

- Green Apple Paradise

- Heesu In Class 2

- Kieta Hatsukoi

Younger top

- 17 Seito

- Boku No Mama Chan

- Dou-imo Nara Nai

- Eat Me Up, My Husband

- Honey Bear

- If You Hate Me That Much

- Kore Mo Shigoto Desu

- My Pretty Policeman

- Papa Datte, Shitai

- Seashell Boy

Younger bottom :

- Collar Kiss

- Goodbye Lilac

- Hana Wa Saku Ka

- His Little Amber

- Honey Maple More More Sugar

- Hwanghyeon Text

- Isso Koe Ga Nakattara

- Katekyo!

- Kikoeru?

- Kobi No Kyoujin

- Koi Ga Michitara

- Love Me Doctor!

- Mankai Darling

- My Little Inferno

- On Or Off

- Ou-sama No Koi Asobi

- A Tiger’s Den

- Usagi Otoko Tora Otoko

Seme redflag

- Even If You Don’t Love Me

- Love Jinx

- My Hyung’s Lover

- Roses And Champagne

- Sadistic Beauty BL Sidestory

- Unscented Trajectory

Uke redflag

- Sweet Heart Trigger

Most greenflag couple

- Ouchi E Kaerou : Neko Mimi Omegaverse

- After Staring At The Starry Sky

- First Night With My Beloved

- Mother’s Spirit

- Muri Marriage

- Old-fashioned Cupcake

- Raion Gotoki No Kuni Kara

- Restart Wa Tadaima No Ato De

- Shiba-kun To Shepherd-san

- Tatoeba Konna Koi No Hanashi

- Until I Meet My Husband

Most redflag couple

- Dragless Sex

Enemies to lovers

- Alpha Ga Alpha Wo Daku Houhou

- Anti Alpha

- Fudanshi No Ore Ga Youkya Osananajimi Ni Semarareteru Ken

- I’m Banging My Rival From A Parallel World

- Omae No Koi Wa Ore No Mono

- You Get Me Going

- Megumi And Tsugumi

Childhood friends to lovers :

- Ashita Wa Docchi Da!

- Dekiai Honey Baby

School life :

- Bukiyou Na Silent

- Doushiyou Mo Nai, Boku No Hatsukoi

- Ero Yume Aquarium

- Gosan No Heart

- Hana Tokidoki Kuma

- Hatsukoi Encounter

- Hinekure Chaser

- Houkago No Etude

- I Seriously Can’t Believe You

- Iberiko Buta To Koi To Tsubaki

- Inu Mo Arukeba Koi Ga Hajimaru

- Kawaii Akuma

- Kijima-kun

- Mask Danshi Wa Koishitakunai No Ni

- Nar Kiss

- Yarichin Bitch Club

✌🏻

[macbethheadband]

Would you believe me if i told you theres an exact equal number of beejs and hawks in bj papa san.

[marley-manson]

BJ Papa San may be about BJ but as a Hawkeye fan first MASH fan second my main takeaway from the episode is the way Hawkeye cautions BJ about getting too emotionally invested.

He's a bit player in BJ's plotline so I doubt it's meant to significantly reflect on him as a character - someone needs to caution BJ against getting too involved for the sake of foreshadowing - but it's interesting. Like, he's speaking from experience, but not experience he's since tempered himself lol. He still gets too emotionally invested. I mean, a few episodes after this he mutilates a colonel to save a hundred kids <3

I think partly it's another instance of Hawkeye giving advice tailored to a person in a specific situation, regardless of whether he personally follows it. BJ needs a warning because Hawkeye can see that he's setting himself up for an emotional blow, but that doesn't mean Hawkeye's less emotionally invested in the lives being destroyed around him lol. (In fact usually their roles are reversed, a la Give Em Hell Hawkeye, The Grim Reaper, Depressing News, Tell It to the Marines, etc)

It's also Hawkeye in the role of dude who's been here the longest warning the newer ones, the way he cautioned Charles about his insomnia in Dr Winchester Mr Hyde, or the way he occasionally played mentor to BJ in BJ's earlier seasons. It's a bit late for this dynamic between them, but it doesn't not work.

But what I think is the most interesting potential takeaway from this is that it suggests Hawkeye is self aware about his own emotional investment. Like, not necessarily, you can give advice without realizing it also applies to you lol, but Hawkeye is a self aware kind of guy, and he's demonstrated that awareness before. Like in Sometimes You Hear the Bullet when he recognizes that he was numbing himself to the situation and does a 180, wondering why he hasn't cried for everyone who's died and immediately sending Wendel back home instead of cavalierly letting him risk his life to impress his girlfriend.

There's also moments like Hawkeye describing his state of mind in Depressing News as "mania," perfectly aware that he's not in a good emotional place but rolling with it, all the dark jokes about being more like a mechanic than a doctor, his willingness to talk to a psychiatrist in several episodes, etc etc.

He's not invested in this particular family in BJ Papa San, but he gets invested in many, many other doomed causes. And I gotta wonder if in some way he picks and chooses his battles. If he can tune it out, essentially, the way he says he was doing before Tommy died in Sometimes You Hear the Bullet, but he doesn't want to be that numb to it all so he actively tries to find a balance. If maybe part of the reason he gets invested in his causes is like, as a form of emotional release, to demonstrate to himself that the constant death around him hasn't stopped him from feeling it.

After all, at the end of the episode he does tell BJ that he expects him to turn around and help someone else anyway. And that's probably also speaking from experience. It hurts to stay emotionally invested, and you can't be at full emotional investment all the time or you'd fully lose your mind in a week, but I think Hawkeye knows that getting invested in doomed causes over and over is better, like for him as a person and his own self-respect, than the alternative of keeping his head down and trying to stay as emotionally uninvolved as possible.

And it's interesting to imagine him like, semi-logically coming to this conclusion. Rather than his campaigns being pure irrational emotion, they're something he knows he has to throw himself at now and then to remain himself.

[gaysails]

@pomegranate @amrv-5 I have leapt up and physically punched the air in glee at least three times so far listening to bj papa san mashcast episode. thank you for your service......

[majorbaby]

I still don’t understand MASHblr’s obsession with BJ Hunnicutt. I’m with the Boomers on this one. I think he’s such a boring character and Mike Farrell isn’t all that great an actor, especially when it comes to comedy. BJ’s love and devotion for his wife and child is admirable, but there doesn’t seem to be much else to the character. He’s basically Hawkeye’s shadow and parrot.

answering this backwards:

i think Trapper is textually more Hawkeye's "shadow and parrot" - he follows Hawkeye around assisting with his campaigns and whenever Trapper's core value system diverges from Hawkeye's it's in a minor, one-off way that doesn't feed any sort of conflict between them (Ceasefire, or Bananas, Crackers and Nuts where they fight for 30 seconds and immediately make up).

BJ does a little of that shadowing/parroting in 4-5 but i actually think one of the most interesting things their dynamic is how HawkBeej butt heads. BJ can be everything from nonchalant about Hawkeye's campaigns to directly opposed to them, in the later years they seem to be doing more and more of their own thing, which is a normal and welcome thing to happen when you've been on a show together for 8 years.

I do think you're right about his love and admiration being at the center of his character and for that reason, he's bland. I'm not sure why over 184 episodes they couldn't find something else to do with him.

To demonstrate more concretely what I mean when I say "bland", here's a list of dramatic BJ-centric episodes (metric used is BJ leads, not co-leads, the A-plot,)

Dear Peggy (not super dramatic, but he's the narrator so let's give this to him) scratch that, I rewatched it, like the other instalments of the "Dear... " series, it's an ensemble episode

Hanky Panky

BJ Papa San

The Party (iffy, but I'm including it)

Period of Adjustment

War Co-Respondent

Death Takes a Holiday (like The Party, iffy, but there's a big focus on BJ Drama)

Oh How We Danced

Wheelers and Dealers

Bombshells

With the exception of one episode on this list, Bombshells, every single time we look at BJ's emotional state during the war, he's having some kind of breakdown over missing his family. They tried this many different ways, list below corresponds to the list above

See above

BJ's cheated on Peg and it's thrown his whole life into crisis

BJ misses Peg and Erin and he adopts a surrogate family about it

BJ misses Peg and Peg misses BJ, let's all miss our families together (I love The Party, this is not a diss, I'm just trying to demonstrate how BJ's understandable fixation on his family sets the events of this episode in motion)

BJ misses Peg and Erin extra hard and he's drinks, destroys property and punches Hawkeye about it

BJ almost cheats on Peg (and arguably, he cheats on Peg emotionally) and it throws his whole life into crisis, but he doubles down on his love for Peg in the end so it's cool

BJ misses Peg and Erin and he's going to save this patient about it goddamn (he also does it because he wants the guy to life sure, but it becomes personal for him in a way it doesn't for Hawk and Margaret)

BJ misses Peg and Erin and Hawkeye does something about it

BJ misses Peg and Erin and he's a huge dick about it

In the 11th hour and season, BJ's finally allowed to lead a dramatic subplot that has nothing to do with Peg and Erin, and it was so notable to me that I wrote 1400 words about it here and made a gifset to mark the occasion

It's fine and normal for BJ to miss his family, this is not BJ's fault. But I do not miss BJ's family because I don't know them.

How many ways can we explore "guy who misses his wife" I guess a minimum of ten. It's hard for me to be invested in one half a relationship or in a character whose sole source of drama in the character drama years is about that relationship. Everyone misses their families, but Hawkeye, Margaret and even more minor characters like Mulcahy and Klinger get more diverse sources of conflict for their characters to contend with and conflict generates interest.

I said earlier that the most interesting thing about the HawkBeej relationship to me is their conflict, and indeed my favourite BJ moments are the ones he's at odds with Hawkeye: Preventative Medicine, Period of Adjustment, GFA, Commander Pierce, Yalu Brick Road, Bottoms Up, No Laughing Matter - I don't love all those episodes, and BJ doesn't lead any of them on his own except for PoA... the problem with a lot of these is that the show never leans too far into their conflict, because I'm still supposed to buy that they're BFFs. Actually with the exception of GFA I'm not sure I'm ever supposed to hone in on how BJ and Hawkeye are actually not compatible - if I read with the text, they're just as warm and fuzzy as HawkTrap were, but in 2023 I don't feel very warm and fuzzy when I see them together - and I love that for me, conflict generates interest!

But I gotta do that heavy lifting myself. Which like any fic author I am happy to do, but if we're talking about characters who are well-written in general, they need to stand up on their own without my putting an evil gay headcanon on them, and for the reasons above, BJ does not do that for me.

I really do think they wrote themselves into a corner with BJ - that isn't the fault of the character at all, it's just a trap the writers fell into. They made Peg, a character who does not appear in corporeal form alongside the character the main source of his angst and drama, and the other source of angst and drama (conflict with Hawkeye) wasn't leaned into hard enough. How do you write yourself out of that hole? I think Bombshells was one possible answer to that. I believe Ken Levine has written that they really tried to find some other source of character drama for BJ but that they were mostly throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck, so that's another reason why I think the writing for him was inconsistent. I know I've read that on Levine's blog I just can't find the source rn, but when I do I'll link it here.

To answer your question about the fandom's "obsession" with him - he's a blank slate! He doubles down a billion times on his love for his wife, I guess that means he loves his wife right? It's just way too easy to read against the text and turn that on its head, I see the draw. And I've seen all sorts of imo... let's call them, "colourful" takes on how BJ doing x means y that are very difficult to refute because there's nothing actually there to contradict it, because he wasn't written consistently or with much depth. You can either see what's there and accept it, he's a niceguy wifeguy or you can read against and see a nightmare repressed gay, I fall in the later category if we're talking about what's more interesting.

There's a third popular category which is "niceguy repressed gay" and I can't get on board with that because I cannot simultaneously read with and against the text at the same time.

And finally, with regards to Mike Farrell's acting...

Keep in mind, this is largely subjective. I have an unfinished theatre degree and as part of that, one year's training in an acting conservatory, so those are my credits, make of them what you will.

Farrell does a good job when he's got a lot of emotion to work with, to pull up from his gut or chest, and express with a loud voice or vibrant expressions - think open rage or sorrow. So you've got great moments from him, Period of Adjustment, Preventative Medicine and Death Takes a Holiday all contain good examples.

He struggles with more subtle displays of emotion. It's a crime that the sun appears to be in Farrell's eyes during the HawkBeej goodbye in GFA, how could they do that to him (and to us, the audience). In 4-5 I'm not hearing anything from him except for a person reading words exactly as they appear in the script. He's helped along when he's got a scene partner, Alan Alda or Loretta Swit can tease a little extra depth out of him, so he probably had potential. On the other hand, scene-stealer DOS flattens him completely.

And wrt his comedic capabilities well... I've seen the Hawkeye/BJ ship characterized as "commitment to the bit to lovers" what bits? I think there's a reason they went away almost entirely post season 3, or Hawkeye does them on his own. For his own comedic entries, BJ mostly gets snarky one-liners or puns to deliver, that are said almost to himself every single time tacked onto other dialogue and therefore with limited reaction from other characters. Sometimes Hawkeye gets annoyed with him for his puns, or his using comedy to deflect, as BJ later accuses Hawkeye of doing lol.

Without making any direct comparisons to improv partners past, I've called BJ's expression when Hawkeye's on about something "BJ looking bored" cuz, uhhh, there's a war on and he's bored about it. And that's about as generous as I am willing to be about that.

I watched Sex and The Single Parent and Private Sessions as part of my research for this post and I mostly feel I am watching BJ Hunnicutt in an AU. Now it's possible this was just typecasting at work, I think Jennifer Aniston can act she was just making bank playing Rachel Green for 15 years after Friends finished its run - why fix what isn't broken if it's paying the bills? Maybe that's true for Farrell too, but I'm not watching another tv movie of his to try to figure it out.

With James Cromwell's role in Succession recently, I have seen his candidacy for BJ Hunnicutt come up around these parts and I gotta say, I think (the Academy-Award-nominated-for-starring-opposite-an-animatronic-pig) Cromwell is a far better actor, and from my understanding he missed out on the part because he was too tall and Alan Alda had to strain to look up at him. So there's that.

The Boomers* seem to think BJ Hunnicutt was a big softy who cried like a girl every chance he got and wasn't at all the image of the stand-up American man that all American men should aspire to be. I find that deliciously ironic because from my view, that is exactly what the BJ character was written to do. It's a big part of why I can't get into him as he appears in the text, I need to sprinkle something else onto him before I take a bite and I think that's what most people need to do with him too.

*no hate to boomers, some of my closest relatives are boomers.

[remyfire]

Feeling a bit unwell about Beej tipping his head up in that particular way. Just btw.

[honey--wraith]

2, 9, 19 pls!!! :)

Hi Al!!!

2: what’s a detail that you would consider insignificant but you like ? I talked about set dressings/callback props when Shan asked me this so I'll talk about an insignificant detail I HATE! When I was archiving and scanning some of the original MASH scripts (yes the fact I got to get my hands on the OG BJ Papa San script was kind of the best day of my life) I noticed they still referred to Margaret's character as "Hot Lips" even up to GFA! It doesn't truly matter in the long run because Swift did so much for the public perception of Margaret, fighting to make her a well developed very human character and got away from the "Hot Lips" moniker in the later seasons. It irks me though that despite all of that, in the scripts she's still referred to as a sexist and flat moniker up to and including in the last episode of the show...very annoying!

9: episode you could genuinely write an entire essay on ? So so many but to try to avoid talking about Dreams or WTK or Peace on Us in yet another ask, I'm going to say Father's Day. It's one of the episodes I've seen the most and one that really made things click for my thoughts surrounding the character of Margaret. Could write several essays on her daddy issues/issues with authority that are present in this episode.

19: favorite character that’s talked about but never onscreen ? ERIN!!!! Especially the way you write about her she is my favorite weird little girl and the amount of well-developed characterization I have for her in my head is so funny given she's never really onscreen

[bardengarde]

mash ask: 1, 11, and 17. 💜

Shan my beloved!!!💜💜💜

1. Who's your favorite swamp rat?

....Sigghhh, you and I both know the answer- it's Hawkeye. 😔

11 . favorite random object in the swamp ?

I really love any and all of the photos the guys have sitting around!!! Trapper's wife and kids, Frank's mom, BJ's photo of Peg and Erin- even the pinups Hawkeye and Trapper had!

17 . ah we’ve been waiting for this one . favorite episode ? if you can’t pick , how bout top three - ish ?

My toxic trait is my favorite episodes probably change depending on what I've watched recently.

I think "Quo Vadis Captain Chandler" is my all time favorite, but "BJ Papa San" and "OR" also make the very long list of some of my favorite eps!!!

[onekisstotakewithme]

Ally I would love to know your top 5 BJ-centric episodes of MASH -ypq

ough. but SURE. that's my favourite guy, my pink bitch named b(reakfast)j.

criminal that the writers did not actually create a lot of BJ centric episodes that really feel like BJ centric episodes. Or even just a lot of BJ centric episodes, Yk? I know they struggled with writing for him bc valid, but come onnnn guys... ok. okay. i'm cool.

Dear Peggy (could I pick anything other than 'two pages since i told you i loved you...'?)

Oh, How We Danced

B.J Papa San (I agree with you, dad of all dads of all time...)

The Party (it counts if he kicks off the plot right?? right?? i know, i know, this is an ensemble).

Hepatitis.... which isn't BJ-focused, he gets maybe a C-plot, but i just like when he's showing off his 'top ten every time he graduated' 'can perform a surgery from a manual' smarts. i love that guy.

[hballegro]

So Alright, Cool, Whatever

its not like i've got something grand to say to you

'So Alright, Cool, Whatever' by the Happy Fits [from Concentrate]

first time makin one of these so. could be shitty. created because spotify recommended i add this song to my BJ playlist and i went 'ur so right bestie' and here we are. the most polished section is from the shoulder nuzzling to 'same size same shape'. if u couldnt tell. rip. i had like 80% of that section done from the start lol

HERES MY CITATIONS READ EM AND WEEP cause i did; there arent timestamps because im incredibly tired. some of the scenes should be 'hallmarks' though to help u find ur way around. it SHOULD all be in order tho.

The smell of music

Lil

GFA

Where theres a will theres a war

GFA

Novocain mutiny

Joker is wild

Aint love grand

Hepatitis

Morale victory

Welcome to korea 1

Welcome to korea 2

Deluge

Preventative Medicine

War for all seasons

Mail call 3

The Kids

Aint love grand 

Trick or treatment

Private Finance

Private Finance [same scene]

Hawk’s nightmare

Soldier of the month

Morale victory

War for all season

Preventative Medicine

Lil

The Winchester Tapes

Tea and empathy

Are You Now, Margaret

Preventative Medicine 

Mr n Mrs Who

Yalu brick

None Like it Hot

The Tooth Shall Set You Free

Hepatitis

None Like it Hot

Bj papa san

Yessir baby

The Most Unforgettable Characters

Oh how we danced

Oh how we danced

Aint love grand

Period of adjustment

Mail call 3

War Co-Respondent

Life time

The Life You Save

No sweat

Preventative Medicine

Flagg

Depressing news

Father’s Day

War Co-Respondent

Mr n Mrs Who

War for all seasons

Soldier of the month

Peace on us

No Laughing Matter

No Laughing Matter

Mr n Mrs Who

Rumor at the Top

Patent 4077

Letters

Morale Victory

Mr n Mrs Who

The Bilford Syndrome

Morale victory again 

GFA

Tell it to the marines

Tell it to the marines

Morale victory

Soldier of the month

Birthday girls

War Co-Respondent 

Soldier of the month YET AGAIN

GFA

GFA

shoutout hawkeye for not once but twice looking at bj's lips on beat without me trying to make him do that

also i kept going 'wow i kept using these episodes a lot of times' i am lucky i managed to contain myself and only do the hugs from Aint Love Grand ONCE. there were FOUR HUGS there. and i picked ONE. thats restraint.