#billy anti are stupid

[monsterpegger001]

Happy Birthday to the man that stole my heart in 2017 and never let me have a moment of peace 😌🥰

[pastelauroras]

this is how I see the friendship dynamic when buckleway and harringrove start dating btw

[shieldofiron]

Damn that leaked scene from s5 is crazy

And I guess he’s pissed they let tons more people die?? That’s so real of him.

[every-dayiwakeup]

If Billy Hargrove is your idea of evil, you’re a life virgin. Seriously, you must live in a hell of a security bubble.

 An abused teenager who spent the majority of his screen time in tears and being taken advantage of repeatedly isn’t evil. Labeling stuff you don’t understand as evil or problematic... do y’all ever get tired?? 

Being exposed to “the other side” is literally a part of life, and it’s not a bad thing. It can be good for you, actually. 

[thetimelordbatgirl]

The only people at this point supporting Joe Locke as Billy Kaplan and Kit Connor as Hulkling are literally Heartstopper fans who don't give a shit about the characters at all and just want a superhero version of their Heartstopper ship, as evident by their dismissive attitude towards fans calling out how Joe as Billy is the latest Jewish erasure in the MCU.

[thestobingirlie]

let’s get our imaginations working for a second, and play a little game.

you are 17/18 years old. the world seems to be ending. you and three thirteen year olds nearly got eaten by monsters today, and those monsters are still out and about doing god knows what.

you’ve been put in charge of protecting those children.

a guy in your year turns up to the house. you know him, he’s knocked you around a little the last few days, trying to intimidate you and make you feel a bit shit about yourself, despite you doing your best to ignore it. his thirteen year old stepsister looks at you in fear and desperation and tells you that her brother will kill both her and the thirteen year old black boy you’re taking care of, if he discovers they are in the house.

what do you do?

[cavinginhisfvce]

"i'm not a billy apologist—"

i am. bye.

[suwunnysideup]

to the billy stans still lurking around:

i do not support the duffer brothers. they r utter sacks of shit that only care to make a buck. but unfortunately for both of us, they are the creators of the show so ultimately, what they say goes. not that we care [staring at headcanons and ships]

y’all can argue with the wall. billy is an abuser and a racist. i know he’s abused, i understand WHY he acts the way he does but again: it doesn’t fucking excuse it.

the way y’all wanna deny, deny, deny, yet fucking blame nancy for everything ???? call her an abuser??? HELLO??? self awareness is dead ig. if u guys think billy can change and be understood, APPLY THE SAME FUCKING JUDGEMENT TO HER. double standards are REAL here jfc

if y’all come frothing at the mouth crying to me, you’ll probs be blocked bc as i’ve said before: y’all r not welcome here. end of discussion, i’m not fucking promoting your views.

bite me.

[jacksonseymour13]

The show is fucking garbage for how they treat characters with actual struggles and write them off as demons for being a little bit different than the main boring cast who are SQUEAKY CLEAN! I’m a fellow Billy and Jason fan. I am proud of it and no one will ever make me ashamed to admit it. Fuck the duffers 🖕🏻and fuck any jason & billy haters. The fact you can go on about your life for crucifying anyone for having a different of opinion just surprises me. Let people like what they want! Billy and Jason are not real they cannot hurt you. If you can like Joker, Billy and Jason can be liked too. WTF?!

I will NOT be watching season 5 for it’s horrible execution of Billy,Jason,Chrissy,Patrick and Eddie who had zero right to die. I’m done with this rant.

[biillys]

insane that billy hargrove and mickey milkovich are basically the same character with the same tropes just in a different setting on a different show and yet mickey's fucking beloved and cared for and more or less treated with respect and then u have billy who's just shat on and ripped to shreds by the larger fandom as a whole. like u breath billy's name and ur blocked cancelled and killed in literally a second. the fucks up with that

[rigginsstreet]

are they forgetting that billy is automatically paralleled to victims because he was literally a victim of the mindflayer/vecna and neil? like these ppl will claim how we shouldn't like billy but should like jonathan because jonathan represents the figure who was able to ''defeat his trauma without turning out to be a bad person'' but that means billy was paralleling jonathan too by this logic. and he was paralleling will and other victims of the mind flayer make it make sense.

I wish I had access to episodes so I could make the gay William parallel set that would get everyone so so mad lmao this would also require me rewatching the show for wills scenes and I simply cannot allow myself to do that

[yuiyuuji]

And you know what? Fuck Max? What the hell was that?! She wanted something to happen to Billy? Holy fuck.

[elevenmayfieldz]

i might need to quit tiktok for good after hearing what so it mine el means

[every-dayiwakeup]

S3 Flayed! Billy looks like a doll. And essentially, he is one. A puppet, really.

He speaks through his eyes, and nobody hears.

Which is why I think his final yell of defiance is poetic as hell.

But it was useless, because him gaining control and taking his voice and body back ended up being trashed on repeatedly in season 4.

Also: why did they keep cutting from Billy to Hopper if they were just going to bring Jim back anyway?

[uno-san]

Bill Cipher Vs. Self-Hatred

Howdy y'all! Today I just wanted to go over some thoughts I had over everybody's favorite triangle that may or may not have occurred to some of you already. Naturally this will contain Book of Bill Spoilers.

To start off our little essay I thought it would be important to first sum up my thoughts on one of Bill's more complicated relationships: Stanford

Now we've all seen his dynamic with Stanford plenty of times in the show but with recent information coming from both the Book of Bill and thisisnotawebsitedotcom.com more light has been shed on the subject from both Bill's perspective and Ford's.

There's more than meets the eye when it comes to dissecting Bill's interactions and thoughts on Stanford, with the ever enlightening "EVEN HIS LIES ARE LIES" making theorists scratch their heads. Within the Book of Bill are these codes and their meanings: hbh grfwru ri d gliihuhqw nlqg/ zkr zdqw wr pdnh klv sdwlhqw eolqg

eye doctor of a different kind/ who wants to make his patient blind

Qeb alzqlo pxvp/ qeobb pfmp x axv/ tfii jxhb qeb sfpflkp/ dl xtxv

The doctor says/ three sips a day/ will make the visions/ go away

Ixvvb hdwhu/ edeb eloob/ zrxogq'w gulqn/ xqohvv lwv vloob

Fussy eater/ baby billy/ wouldn't drink/ unless its silly

As well as:

Finding out that both Stanford and Bill have a genetic mutation that made them Black Sheep suggests the possibility that Bill saw a kinship within Stanford. After all, he did make the offer for Stanford to join him. No doubt being able to sympathize with Stanford's situation yet misreading his motivations, causing the rift in their once savable relationship once Bill's lies were uncovered.

Now I'll admit it was others who came up with this theory in particular, especially when drawing comparisons of how Stanford was treated and how Bill allegedly was for having a strange eye. Stanford, in some form of other, might represent how Bill was before he saw the destruction of his world by his hands. A mere outcast looking for his place in the world. To be believed rather than ridiculed or "fixed".

Self-Hatred

And now we get to the Bill we all know today:

The chaos loving and nightmare inducing three-sided maniac, who may be hiding more insecurities than he ever let on in the show, thanks to the Theraprism.

Someone far more traumatized

Who's had to convince himself to fully be the bastard he is today

But if the theory that Bill had a type of kinship with Stanford thanks to their mutations was true, then wouldn't it be possible that his relationship with someone else might represent the inner struggle with himself?

For you see, the original title of this post was...

Bill Cipher Vs. Stanley Pines

As my own theory is that Stanley Pines is what Bill decided to project his self-hatred on. Nobody can doubt that the two have similar qualities, yet as I read the Book of Bill and thisisnotawebsitedotcom I couldn't help but notice the absolute malice that Bill has for Stanley whenever he's mentioned.

There have been many opponents before that have strived to take Bill down. Whether that was the Shaman, the Anti-Cipher Society, or Time Baby, none of his interactions with them have appeared as vitriol as compared to Stanley.

Not even Stanford has this same reaction, who, by really no contest, was the closest to ever defeating Cipher by himself. Both with the gun that he near successfully killed Bill with and the secret of the barrier of Gravity Falls he refused to give up. Bill didn't even have a real interaction with Stanley until the last episode.

Yet it isn't Stanford that causes Bill to break while he's in the Theraprism. It's Stanley.

"-A resume-inflating, cheap trick loving, past-denying overgrown child protected from failure only by a force field of DENIAL AND shamelessness!"

"Self-pitying"

"Stupid"

"Smug"

"Hack Jokes"

"UNWORTHY"

Now it could be just me, but those are a lot of specific insults to fling somebody's way that you've barely interacted with. Especially if Bill credits the Twin Swap to Stanford entirely as opposed to allowing Stanley the credit.

"STEP RIGHT UP, it's time to play my FAVORITE GAME!! BOOTLEG SIXER over HERE spent a LIFETIME trying to hide his humiliations, BUT I'VE BEEN INSIDE HIS MIND, so NOW they’re ALL YOURS for the low low price of BEING MY NEW PAL! ITS SHOWTIME FOLKS, AND THE ONLY WAY TO LOSE IS TO BE NAMED STANLEY PINES!"

“SHAME:TM - IT'S THE ONE FRIEND WHO NEVER LEAVES!”

This out-of-character hatred doesn't come from the fact that Bill thought Stanley wasn't worthy, it comes from the fact that Bill sees himself in Stan. Who by all means is a lying and conniving screw up. Somebody who let his family down.

This could possibly be proven by the poem Bill had wrote about Stanley:

The whole poem suits my point but I decided to highlight the sections that caught my eye specifically. That when you put into consideration Bill's clear trauma and regret about the Euclidian Massacre, his own words can clearly be flipped back on him.

That he sees himself as a curse and a mistake. A self-made monster. Someone who's left the past behind when the loss of his home is still on his mind.

And what truly gets under Bill's skin about Stanley Pines?

"He got his life and family back.

His big break, it finally came,

Redemption from a life of shame"

Stanley got back what Bill can't.

[joesalw]

Hi, I'm an ex swiftie and I have so much to say about taylor swift. I have a lot bottled up inside and this felt like a safe space to get it out. I hope you don't mind.

I feel like taylor as an artist doesn't have an identity of her own anymore.

like billie, lana, sabrina, ariana, beyonce, shakira, britney, avril, olivia they all make a specific type of music. Although many of them have made genre bending music but It's common knowledge that not everything is for everybody. Now this is where miss swift comes in.

she was going great with her first three albums but then the shift from country to pop to alternate to pop again and now whatever the hell the toilet paper department is supposed to be has lost her off the rails. Her albums are more suitable to her boyfriends than herself.

red- jake gyllenhall ( indie record that's much cooler than mine) but red is actually a very cool indie record

1989- calvin harris (or one could say harry styles), he is known for making upbeat electro pop music

folklore, evermore- joe (listening to his interviews and the type of intellectual, introverted personality he has, not to mention he actually worked on the albums himself with her seems like the type of music he would listen to).

and TTPD about matty healy ( which is not the most flattering album)

her dating life isn't about her finding a soulmate or true love. It's about finding a temporary muse. she sticks to them like a leech and sucks until she's done and then moves on to the next victim.

I was actually very excited about midnights because it was painted as her "seizing her own identity" and "returning back to pop" especially with anti hero, lavender haze, mastermind and yoyok I felt like this time it was about her and her demons. not some villain in her life. It felt refreshing after her constantly victimizing herself. I loved the stupid "I'm the problem, its me" thing.

Now, after every breakup, her latest ex boyfriend has to pay the price for breaking poor little taylor's heart. But since she had been with joe the longest and during that long period of her time, she never said anything bad about him, put him up on a pedestal, she was so in love and content that we, the audience who have been with her journey with her numerous boyfriends felt like he was the one. he's the best one. there are no more problems. but then this does not last either. At first neither of them revealed the reason for the breakup. which was fine and it probably should've stayed that way because when taylor started to reveal more about it, that's when things started to go south for her

she tried to paint him as the bad guy. like he was such a terrible boyfriend, he didn't want to marry her because he was depressed boo fucking hoo. being depressed is not as big of a crime as she tried to make. It also doesn't help your image when you confess to emotionally cheating on the alleged love of your life about a fucking nazi.

Miraculously this time taylor didn't get away with it. She didn't get to date the nazi. so she proceeded to throw a tantrum on her latest "masterpiece" about how she hates her fans and she's so miserable and depressed. again boo fucking hoo. dragging old drama with kim and kanye out of which she came out the winner but also dragging their child into this?? (like what did the kid do to you?)

I hate how everyone conveniently forgot that taylor dated connor kennedy when he was still a minor (she was five years older than him) and immediately after his mother died, bought a house in his neighbourhood to get in his circle and crashed his cousin's wedding and when the groom's mother asked her to leave, she ignored her??(what kind of psychopathic behaviour is this?)

Not to mention the lack of support for palestine, after wanting to be on the right side of history, per formative activism, fake feminism, stealing candy from olivia who's like half her age or something, using sabrina to rub salt on her wounds, blocking charlie in the uk charts, and now trying to re-write history like "I wrote folklore and evermore alone on the phone with aaron and jack" Does this woman ever stop?

She lost a lot of respect with that one. The excitement i felt for midnights is gone. she hasn't changed, she will never change. But I'm tired. I can't keep up with her anymore.

Now what's going to happen? I'll tell you what. she and travis will break up and then she's going to drop another "masterpiece" and bitch and moan about how much of a terrible boyfriend her was. And its going to be in the genre that travis likes because taylor doesn't make music about herself, always about her boyfriends. She's not going to grow up. But I have. I can't put up with her anymore.

!!!