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dalekofchaos · 5 months ago
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There was never a rat in the Van Der Linde Gang
I'm gonna be honest. Micah is a conniving snake. But there was never a rat.
Why did Blackwater fail? Dutch killed a mother in cold blood and then a massacre happened. The money was a set up and Dutch took the bait. Pinkertons swarmed the area and even Landon Rickets was there.
How did they find them at Horseshoe? By chance the Pinkertons found Arthur and Jack fishing, but was it really by chance? What happens in chapter 2?
A bar fight where fucking everyone in town is there, which afterwords Dutch is there
You sprang Sean free and there are bounty hunters who flee, you seriously don't think they talked??
Oh yeah, ARTHUR AND MICAH SHOOT UP A FUCKING TOWN
John killing Micah led to Ross and Fordham finding him. Any of the missions I mentioned practically led Milton and Ross to finding Arthur near Horseshoe.
How did the Gray/Braithewaite scheme fail?
The Grays knew what they were doing and so did the Braithewaites. They played both families instead of just one and instead of LYING LOW. Dutch's vanity, ego and sense of wanting petty revenge against Confederate white trash caused Sean to be killed and Jack to be abducted.
How did Saint Denis fail?
Dutch played Bronte in his own city, refused a favor(you do NOT refuse the Mob asking a favor) which caused the set up, then Bronte's murder and finally the Bank Robbery which they knew they were there.
The common theory is someone from the gang snitched and talked to the Pinkertons. Who exactly ? Micah ? Well, Agent Milton said they picked up Micah AFTER they came back from Guarma, so it could not have been him. Molly ? Again, Milton said they did pick her up (not mentioned when), but she did not say anything. I have also read theories that it might have been Agibail who snitched to which my response is - pure BS.
The truth is, nobody snitched, nobody talked. Yes. Yet the reaction of the Pinkertons was insanely fast, as if they knew the robbery was going to go down. How you wonder ? Well, it's simple. It's a long one, but have a read.
From the very beginning of the game, Dutch has been claiming that they are a few steps ahead of everyone else, but his arrogance proved to be the downfall. You see, the Pinkertons are not as dull and foolish as Dutch claim them to be, they are extremely efficient as a detective agency proven by the fact that they tracked down Arthur in Valentine. Now, when the gang moved to Clemens Point near Rhodes, the Pinkertons lost their trail for a while. However the gang contradicted their own plan of staying low by creating a huge chaos in Rhodes after killing both the Gray's and the Braithwaite's (best mission in the game btw). As soon as the word spread of the massacre of both the families in Rhodes all over the place, the Pinkertons connected the dots and knew that it could be the Van Der Lind gang who created the fuss and if so, they must be camping somewhere near Rhodes. Nonetheless, they found the gang hideout after sniffing around, a day or two after the Braithwaite massacre. At this point Agent Milton knew these bunch of people would not be too hard to find as all you need to do is to sniff around an area where there has been murder and madness.
Now to Saint Denis, Dutch dismissed Hosea's idea and went after Angelo Bronte just after the failed trolley station robbery. If he listened to Hosea, hit the bank at once, then vanished, the Pinkertons would have never caught on and they would be harvesting mango's in Tahiti. But a failed trolley station robbery followed by a huge shootout in the city killing dozens of cops then followed by a kidnapping and murder of the most powerful man in the city was enough chaos for the Pinkertons to realize it's the Van Der Lind gang. So they knew the gang is around this city and increased security in Saint Denis hoping that the next time they attempt a robbery, it would be the endgame. That is why as soon as the bank robbery started, the Pinkertons were all over the place.
It is also easy to explain why Hosea was captured and Abigail escaped. While causing the distraction, both of them did not realise how fast the response is going to be. The Pinkertons caught Hosea as his face along with other male members of the gang was known to them, specially Hosea, Dutch and Arthur as they have been the oldest members of the gang. But Abigail at this point was unknown to them so it was easy for her to walk right past them without them realizing.
Why did the gang fell?
Micah got into Dutch's ear, Hosea died and Arthur got sick.
Micah promised him riches and the glorious scores that appealed to Dutch's ego and vanity. But he wasn't the rat.
If he did rat, he was playing Dutch and the Pinkertons to get the Blackwater money and the money for turning in Dutch.
However.
It was all Dutch.
Dutch. killed Cornwall in broad fucking daylight. Arthur sprung John out of prison, they blew up a fucking bridge, Dutch led the Natives to their doom, Colm's execution turned into a bloodbath, an attack on the Oil Refinery which led to the deaths of Colonel Favors and Eagle Flies and to top it all with robbing the military. It's no fucking wonder the Pinkertons found them.
There was no rat. The Pinkerton’s were actually just good at their jobs. Micah being a rat makes no sense if you actually think about it. There’s NO WAY the pinkertons would have been ok with the death of Leviticus Cornwall as he was paying their wages. Micah and Dutch planned to kill him together. There’s also the fact that Micah straight up killed Pinkertons in the firefight that ensued cornwall’s death. Micah was an asshole but not a rat. Watch that scene with Milton and Arthur again…Milton would have most likely let Arthur go with that false information but Arthur decided to attack him. There was never a rat, they got played.
It's a combination of things on why they all failed.
Reason 1. Dutch's vanity and ego. Dutch desperately needed to be seen as this great American hero. He cares more of the thrill of “one last score” it’s all about his ego and how he has to be seen as this Evelyn Millerian figure. This great American Literature hero when he’s really as bad as the greed that he says poisons America. He never cared about the people in the gang. It was the prestige of the name "The VAN DER LINDE Gang" HIM. He wanted to be seen as this infamous outlaw and righteous leader. He didn't care about the people in the gang. Arthur? He was dying and he didn't care. John? He wanted him to hang. Abigail? He left her behind the first chance he got. Micah killed Susan RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM and Dutch didn't care. He considerd Mary-Beth, Pearson and Uncle leaving as a betrayal. Dutch never cared for the people within the VDL Gang. He cared what they could do for him and the glory they could bring him. It was never of settling down to become farmers, it was always about the thrill of being an outlaw the that great big score.
There are a lot of people who think if Hosea never died, then Dutch never would've lost it. He was always bad. He just had good ways of masking it. Hosea failed at every venture to talk out of getting Dutch to see sense and avoid bloodshed. If Hosea lived, there is a very good chance that Dutch would've lost it and had Hosea killed. Either it would've been an accidental death like he tried by leaving Arthur behind, he would've went into full paranoid mode "You're trying to undermine me and take the group from me" and order Hosea to draw his gun and then shoot him. Like Hosea said "You'll damn us all" and he did.
Reason 2. Loyalty to a fault.
Loyalty held the gang together. Loyalty was what Dutch valued - blind, obedient loyalty. “He had a plan,” after all.
Doubt broke the gang apart. Dutch became suspicious, uncertain of the faith of even his most dedicated friends. This undermined the entire operation and caused its eventual downfall.
“You’ll betray me, Arthur,” Dutch says, “You’re the type.” Dutch couldn’t be more wrong on that account.
Micah is named by the Pinkertons as a rat, but according to them, he wasn’t approached until after they’d returned from Guarma. So, by that timeline, the Pinkerton’s hadn’t needed a rat to foil their plans in Blackwater, or to find Arthur fishing by the side of a stream, or for the bank robbery in Saint Denis.
The Pinkertons always knew where Dutch was and what he was up to. They didn’t need a rat, especially not after their return from Guarma. So, why drop Micah’s name?
Well, the Pinkertons knew the gang was scrambling, that they were on the run, and that it was damn near impossible to arrest one of them at a time without a successful rescue of said gang member, ie Micah, John, Abigail and Sean. They are not the local sheriff’s office, after all. They are the federals and they want Dutch Vander Linde done in for good.
Staring down the barrel of a gun, why would a Pinkerton agent spill their collateral to the enemy? Arthur wasn’t even asking for any information at the time. Why would this agent, in his dying moments, tell Arthur that Micah was the rat?
Unless the agent knew the gang was on thin ice, and that loyalty was all that was keeping it together. He introduced what he hoped would be a final blow to the gang, accomplishing post-huminously what had been his career goal in life.
Also, why would Micah become an informant after Guarma? What were the promising him? After all, he stuck with Dutch and formed a new gang after Arthur died. He never took a big cut from the government and ran. He was a brown-noser and an asshole, but stood nothing to gain from becoming a rat.
Arthur hated Micah, so he took the bait. He wanted a reason to hate him, to have him kicked out of the gang. Micah was pragmatic and greedy and he hardened Dutch’s humanitarian side - the side that Arthur valued. But, Micah being a rat wasn’t the truth.
After all, we know who became a rat - John Marston.
Arthur’s readiness to believe a Pinkerton’s dying words proved the point of the narrative - the gang fell apart because they lost faith in Dutch, and because Dutch grew jealous and fearful as their doubts became apparent.
Loyalty kept the gang together, and its absence tore the gang apart.
Reason 3. "We didn't need a rat. We got sloppier than the town drunk."
The gang was careless. It got sloppy and their overconfidence and ego was their downfall.
Micah wasn’t the cause of their downfall he simply hastened it. The game tells you from the opening titles how it’s going to end and why. It mentions that the remaining gangs are being hunted down and destroyed with the word underlined for emphasis. It was always going to end in their demise, it just happened quicker than it would have because they got sloppy, careless, conceited, and arrogant.
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movies-movies-movies-movies · 3 months ago
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Heretic (2024) spoilers with out context:
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If you combine the RDR2 epilogue with RDR1, while the series is still about John Marston’s redemption, the epilogue expands the scope by asking the question, “Can John put away his guns for good?”
Because the RDR2 epilogue was all about how John just couldn’t get away from gunfights. Although you can argue that he was pushed into those fights with the Laramies, you can also see Abigail’s perspective in that the fights were putting their family at risk. So, when Abigail leaves, John is forced to really consider if he can put the guns away for good. If he can actually pull off being a rancher. To his credit, he does try.
He gets the bank loan, he builds the house with Uncle and Charles, and he learns how to properly manage the property. Because of his efforts, Abigail and Jack come back. But even so, John just can’t put the guns away because he’s driven by revenge against Micah Bell. Although he gets his payback, he’s punished for it by Edgar Ross tracking him down. Ironically, karma bit both Micah and John here.
So, RDR1 continues the question of whether John can put the guns away for good. It’s here where he’s almost reached that point. But now, he’s being tested on whether he’ll be tempted back into a life of an outlaw, back into a life involving violence and danger. Despite everything that’s thrown his way, John continues his path of redemption/putting his guns away for good:
1) He’s put into the role of a lawman and is pitted against Bill’s gang, essentially forcing him to be on the other side of the outlaws’ violence against others. It’s through this that John swears off from the outlaw life for good, especially when he sees just how awful Bonnie MacFarlane and her family were treated.
2) Javier tries to use nostalgia of the “good ole days” to win John over. It doesn’t work since John doesn’t want the good ole days, especially since he has a bright future with Abigail and Jack. The Mexico arc was, in general, about torn loyalties. John was playing both sides of the war and Javier tried to sway John based on their past friendship. Despite this, John stays true to his convictions. He doesn’t want the life of an outlaw anymore, nor does he want to keep shooting people anymore (he even says he’s getting tired of pulling the trigger!), so he rejects the nostalgia of the old gang.
3) Dutch challenged John over his desire to change. Dutch believed change was impossible and that John would “always” be a gunslinger. He can’t be a rancher, it’s just not what nature intended. John, once again, sticks to his convictions. In fact, despite all of his anger towards Dutch, he refused to shoot him. John can shoot Bill and Javier, but it’s Dutch who he refuses to shoot. When I first played this, I thought it was his fondness over Dutch as his former leader. Now, I’m wondering if it’s also John trying to prove his point. That he CAN change, that he CAN put the guns away. So he does, even when he had Dutch cornered.
Then came the final challenge. Jack Marston brings up the topic of “the day John Marston stopped shooting”. What will it take? John finally does, but in more than one way. Obviously, he puts the guns away since he dies. But John could’ve easily escaped. We’ve done it as the player multiple times. But if he did, it would be a return to a life on the run, a life where Abigail and Jack would always be in danger. The same life that made Abigail take Jack and leave John in the RDR2 epilogue. Everything he’s worked for, all the progress he made in changing his life would be ruined.
So, John makes the hard choice. He sacrifices himself to ensure his family would be safe. He refuses to return to the outlaw life, to a life where he has to shoot at people, even if it means his death. And what is the last thing John does?
He throws away his gun.
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babyaiker · 9 months ago
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My own Red Dead Redemption 2 x Warrior cats AU be upon yeee
This drawing itself is a redraw of the chapter 3 scene with the confrontation with Agent Milton and Ross. I’ll probably give the AU it’s own unique name eventually so I can sort it with hashtags but ye! I’ll eventually get to posting all of the designs, as I have like 30 or so drawn, 40 in total. This AU also has a good bit of unique lore and story changes so I’ll get into that laterr
​this AU also functions as a general cat AU so if you don’t know warriors don’t worry I won’t hit you with too crazy of feral cat cult lore
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delta-bravo89 · 7 months ago
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likeafantasy · 2 months ago
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25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS — (18/25) ↳ Candy Cane Lane (2023)
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happy74827 · 1 year ago
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Writing for underrated characters can be both rewarding and frustrating.
Seeing comments about how thankful/grateful they are that someone is finally supplying for them is literally enough to make you want to burst into tears of joy.
But, then, you also get reminded that wow… what an empty void. How cruel.
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coimbrabertone · 4 months ago
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Martinsville Cooked...Until It Was Cooked
Now, I will go ahead and admit this: I think I'm the polar opposite of a NASCAR boomer when it comes to tracks. I like most of the 1.5s, while I generally find the little bullrings like Bristol and Martinsville to be more demo derby than good racing. That being said...I think the Martinsville cutoff race yesterday delivered.
At least until the playoff shenanigans soured the end of the race.
One step back though, because let me set the stage for all this first.
I missed stage one of the race, ironically enough - I needed a bit of a break from racing after the Brazilian Grand Prix went from a chaotic wet race to the worst guy in the sport running away with it - but when I tuned in early on in stage two, it was already looking surprisingly good.
Chase Elliott was leading off strategy, Byron was gaining on him, but then behind them it was a pair of Fords battling with Brad Keselowski ahead of Ryan Blaney. Now, the way things were going, Byron could point his way into the championship four, as could Christopher Bell in the #20 Toyota, but...
Chase Elliott in the #9 Hendrick Chevrolet, Kyle Larson in the #5 Hendrick Chevrolet, and Ryan Blaney in the #12 Penske Ford were all heading towards a must-win scenario.
Thus, we had two Hendrick teammates battling and potentially knocking each other out of the playoffs, while behind, a pair of Fords were reeling them in.
Brad Keselowski was out of the playoffs, but he was racing for pride. He wanted to win at Martinsville.
Ryan Blaney, however, won at Martinsville the previous year to advance to Phoenix and won the championship that way.
Then Byron gets ahead of Elliott.
But...a caution comes out for Burton spinning, and it immediately breeds another when Truex also goes around. For a moment, I thought "ah crap we're getting into the short track nonsense part of the race" but no, not quite...instead, it led to a crucial strategic choice.
Byron and Elliott both pit off the Truex caution, Blaney and Keselowski stay out, along with Hamlin and Bell who are also sniffing the chance to advance.
And to add insult to injury, Elliott has a slow stop and drops to the back of the fresh tyre cars.
Keselowski gets out ahead and manages to win the second stage ahead of Blaney, Hamlin, Larson, Byron, and Bell.
This stage makes it official that Blaney and Elliott are must-wins, and Hamlin is more or less in the same boat. With non-playoff car Keselowski in the lead, as they run:
Logano is locked in from his win at Vegas.
Reddick is locked in from his win at Homestead.
Byron is 15 points above the cutoff line.
Larson is 6 points above.
Bell is 6 points below but can win tiebreakers off of previous results.
Hamlin is 17 below.
Ryan Blaney must win to advance.
Chase Elliott must win to advance.
Bell, however, can clinch a spot no matter what so long as he finishes 13th or above, therefore, Byron and Larson are in a points battle for the fourth and final spot. A points battle that becomes a moot point if any one of Hamlin, Blaney, or Elliott win.
Stage three is quite literally 200 laps long, so it turns into a bit of a lull for awhile as cars need to knock off laps, but then...Ryan Blaney begins his charge.
He overtakes Larson, goes hunting down Byron.
Catches Byron as William is lapping Shane Van Gisbergen, so Ryan Blaney bumps SVG up and into Byron, slipping underneath the both of them to take position. This is the kind of move that they say Martinsville is all about, bumping, banging, ruthless, but smart. All three cars continue.
Blaney again catches up to Keselowski but the #6 is a wily old fox and makes it hard to pass.
Fast forward to 117 to go, and it looks an awful lot like stage two; Elliott is leading after an earlier pitstop gave him the undercut, Byron is faster and is hunting him down, while Keselowski and Blaney in the Fords are also entering the picture.
A spin by Carson Hocevar gives all of them the chance to pit.
Meanwhile, Byron, Larson, Ryan Preece, and Austin Cindric stay out, making a play for track position.
The green flag comes out, Larson overtakes Byron, Cindric overtakes Preece, and the yellow comes out again as Kyle Busch lost a wheel on the restart. Byron is angry because he feels they shouldn't have restarted at all given a car lost a wheel, but NASCAR declares that Larson is the leader.
And in the following stint, things start to fall apart for Byron.
Elliott gets him off the restart, Blaney follows not long after, and even the likes of Cindric and Hamlin start pressuring him.
So at this point, it's Larson, Elliott, and Blaney the top three and each of them are in must-win scenarios given how Byron is running and how Bell has a points advantage.
Elliott forces his way inside of Larson to take the lead with 24 to go and completes the pass in turn one, keeping Larson out wide as Blaney grabs the draft and tries to follow him through.
Larson gets down in front of Blaney before turn three, but Larson is maybe a foot higher up in the lane than Blaney is, and that's all Ryan needs as he bumps Larson up in just the right way and then barges through to go side-by-side onto the start-finish straight, completing the pass in turn one.
Larson tries to bump Blaney up and retake the position, but Blaney keeps enough traction in the upper groove to come out ahead onto the backstretch. Now, he starts reeling in Elliott.
Ten laps later, Blaney sends it up the inside in turn three, gets a nose ahead through four, and comes onto the start-finish straight ahead of Elliott to take the lead with fourteen laps to go. Blaney restarted behind Cindric and Hamlin, overtook them both, overtook Byron, and charged through Larson and Elliott as well.
He literally moved through 3/4ths of Hendrick Motorsports to move into the lead. A hell of a drive.
Unfortunately...this is where the shitshow began.
Hamlin and Cindric moved ahead of the struggling Byron as well by this point, so Byron is sixth, the worst position he can be in and still advance. Ross Chastain, Austin Dillon, and Brad Keselowski are all behind Byron and are all faster.
Now, William Byron drives for Chevy, as do Chastain and Dillon.
Joey Logano, locked into the playoffs already, is a Ford driver.
Tyler Reddick, also locked in, drives for Toyota.
Ryan Blaney, about to win his way in, is in a Ford.
Larson and Elliott are out of it with Blaney winning and pulling ahead, while Christopher Bell with the points advantage is in 19th in a Toyota. Byron needs to finish 13 places ahead of Bell to advance, and 6 is exactly 13 ahead of 19.
If Chastain or Dillon pass their fellow Chevrolet, they'd be knocking their manufacturer out of the final four.
So instead, Dillon plants himself on the bottom, Chastain on the top, and they effectively block for Byron, keeping him in sixth place regardless of how slow he is.
So, Chevy is making sure that Byron doesn't lose points.
Now, what does Toyota do?
Well, Bubba Wallace starts reporting with three to go that he feels like a tyre is going down. He is off the pace, and Bell starts gaining on him, passing him in the final corner of the final lap.
Pause now, because what happens next flips the script.
At this moment, with Bell going around him, does Bubba Wallace really have a tyre going down? Technically speaking, it doesn't even matter, because he doesn't say he for sure has one, just that it feels like he has one. There's no penalty for thinking your car has a problem and driving accordingly.
And from his onboard, he does definitely seem to be struggling, and you can see cars going past him and establishing a gap.
That being said, as far back as ten to go, Bubba's onboard does show his spotter keeping him informed of the points situation between Byron and Bell.
And here's an interesting thing as well: at the start of the final lap, Wallace is forced high as Byron, Dillon, Chastain, Keselowski, and Logano, that whole group of cars, goes underneath him to put a lap on him. So he clearly sees the two Chevys behind Byron protecting him from the pair of Fords behind.
The #20 of Bell, also a lap down, tries to take the opportunity to slip under Wallace as well, however, he has a wobble in the middle of it, loses control, and hits the wall. Bell panics, throttles it, and rides the wall to the finish, crossing the line in 18th place.
This ties things with Byron, thus, Bell advances off the back of a tiebreaker.
The problem here is...you smell that smell? Yeah, that's the stench of bullshit.
You quite literally have two cases of race manipulation to gets drivers into the final four. Byron had two other Chevrolets blocking for him in a move which the fanbase has already memed as either Byron's Armada or the Chevy Motorcade - let me know which one you think is funnier in the comments - while with Toyota...
The generous interpretation is that Wallace had a genuine problem, was slow, and his spotter was keeping him informed on Bell just to keep one Toyota from taking out another.
The less generous interpretation is that 23XI informed Wallace that Bell was behind and needed one more point to advance, so they had Wallace fake a problem and deliberately slow down to make sure that Bell got through.
Bell did get through, however, he slipped on the marbles as it happened and wound up in the wall and decided to ride the wall to the finish. This is problematic, as the Martinsville wall ride was explicitly banned after 2022 when Ross Chastain used it to propel himself into the final four.
There is a bit of a distinction, in that Bell was initially attempting the corner instead of full throttling it into the wall, however, the end result is the same as Bell was full throttle against the wall at the end.
And that wall ride, I think, gave NASCAR an easy out as we unpause, because it makes what Christopher Bell did go from dubiously legal to definitely illegal.
You see, without it, you had Chevy definitely doing some race manipulation to keep Byron in the playoffs, while Toyota very likely had race manipulation as well to get Bell into the final four, so this was going to be a very sticky situation as NASCAR would have to figure out how to put an end to these manufacturer games.
Manufacturer games which have already flared up twice this season. First at Daytona, when RCR got pissed off at Parker Retzlaff for pushing Harrison Burton in an attempt to win the race, rather than helping Kyle Busch in another Chevrolet take the win.
Secondly, at Talladega, where Kyle Larson didn't push the Ford of Brad Keselowski to the win, instead allowing the fellow Chevy of Ricky Stenhouse Jr. to take the victory.
These races have decided who goes to the playoffs and who advances in the Round of 12, and now, we've seen two manufacturers manipulating the cutoff race for the final four.
And at least in the case of Chevrolet, we know for sure that there was a coordinated effort to help Byron.
Why? Well, remember Austin Dillon's spotter from Richmond? The guy who yelled "wreck him!" over a monitored radio channel as Dillon took a swipe at Hamlin to win the race? A bit of radio that caused NASCAR to strip Austin Dillon of a playoff berth?
Well, Dillon's spotter, henceforth known as Loose Lips, said the following things over the radio:
LL: "The #24 is two points to the good, if we pass him, he'll be out."
AD: "Does the #1 know the deal?"
LL: "Trying to find him to tell him...Justin, can you tell the crew chief also, clear off."
AD: "Does the #1 crew chief know the deal?"
LL: "Yeah, he should"
Like...Jesus Christ you amateur, watch what you say when you're doing something borderline illegal. You'd think he'd learn his lesson after the whole Richmond thing but evidently not.
So yeah, Chevrolet was definitely helping Byron, and as for Bubba Wallace, his car is currently being torn down by NASCAR. According to Bob Pockrass, the expectation is that there will be some sort of penalty if NASCAR finds nothing wrong with the car.
Oh and, because of how toxic the NASCAR fanbase is, I have to say this part: Bubba Wallace did what his team and his manufacturer expected him to do. The fact that he is black does not make him any more guilty than Austin Dillon or Ross Chastain.
Unfortunately, if Bubba Wallace is found to have helped Bell, I expect he'll receive the blunt of the criticism from a certain subsection of the fanbase. Don't be like them. Wallace is not the problem, Chastain is not the problem, Dillon, as dumb as he and his spotter are, is not the problem either.
Chevrolet wants a Chevy to win the championship, Toyota wants a Toyota to win the championship.
This is an inevitable result of the increasing amount of manufacturer alliances and tiered support.
So yeah, Chevy was stinking up the show, Toyota was probably stinking up the show as well, and that little wall ride by Bell gave NASCAR a way of ruling on the issue without addressing the core issue.
Both Byron and Bell benefitted from cars of the same manufacturer, so you can't punish one without punishing the other, however, Bell is the only one to benefit from a wall ride, therefore, NASCAR sends him to the back of the field based off that, and Byron advances to the final four with none of the manufacturer stuff addressed.
We'll see this week if NASCAR rules on either incident, but I'm not holding out hope.
NASCAR is not going to do anything that might piss off a manufacturer, not when nobody new has entered the sport since 2007.
Anyway, I feel bad for Blaney in all this, because he had this heroic drive to overtake all these other playoff cars and advance to the final four, getting the chance to defend his title. And instead of talking about that, everyone's just talking about this Chevy and Toyota drama.
So of the championship four: Tyler Reddick's team is suing NASCAR, Joey Logano is fifteenth in regular points and only got this far because Bowman was disqualified at the Charlotte roval, and William Byron advanced off the back of all this bullshit.
I really hope Ryan Blaney wins the championship, because anyone else would lead to an unbearable amount of offseason discourse.
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pintowski · 2 months ago
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Your Birthday = Your NASCAR Driver
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Concept: Arthur Morgan is the protagonist of RDR1, John Marston is the protagonist of RDR2
Arthur Morgan is a former outlaw who has been blackmailed by the government into capturing his former gangmembers. Whenever someone asks him what he’s being blackmailed with, Arthur says that the government is holding people who are close to him hostage. When Arthur is asked if those people are his family, Arthur says no and doesn’t elaborate any further.
It’s only when he meets Landon Ricketts that he reveals why these people are important to him. The people - Abigail and Jack Marston - are the family of one of his former gangmembers, John Marston. Arthur says that John is dead and that before he passed, John made Arthur promise to him that he’ll take care of his family. When Landon asks Arthur why John is so important to him, Arthur says that John saved his life.
After Dutch dies, Arthur reconnects with Abigail and Jack. He says that now that they’ve been released, he should be moving on. Abigail says he’s earned the right to live on the farm, but Arthur replies that he needs to find his own way. He also says that he needs to stay as far away as possible from the Marstons since it was because of him that the government had taken them captive.
The reunion doesn’t last long. Edgar Ross leads an assault on the ranch to kill Arthur. Arthur, realizing that the government won’t stop until he’s dead, sacrifices himself in order to ensure that Abigail and Jack get to live normal lives.
Several years later, Jack Marston avenges “Uncle Arthur” by killing Edgar Ross. By calling him Uncle Arthur, Jack confirms that he saw Arthur as family (this is the payoff to Arthur saying the Marstons weren’t his family).
In RDR2, we are now in the role of John Marston, the man who saved Arthur Morgan’s life. John, who we only knew from Arthur’s story, is revealed to be a hotheaded brute who is trying to care for his wife and son. As the “younger brother” of the group, he frequently butts heads with the older gang members, namely Dutch and Arthur.
During one of the early missions, John Marston is sent to shake down a man named Thomas Downes. He ends up contracting tuberculosis when Thomas coughs blood in John’s face.
It’s because of the tuberculosis diagnosis that John starts to mature and change. Before, he was taking Abigail and Jack for granted, feeling that they weren’t going anywhere since they needed the gang to survive. Now that he knows he’s dying, John realizes that he wasted so many years not paying enough attention to his family. He begins making plans to leave the gang and set up his family somewhere, so even after he dies, they’ll be well taken care of.
John Marston learns about Beecher’s Hope and asks Arthur Morgan if it was a good idea to buy the land for his family. Arthur says that he’s being crazy for even thinking about wanting to leave the gang. Sometime later, John proposes to Abigail. The two get married with the gang in attendance.
Cut to the downfall of the gang. Arthur Morgan exposes Micah Bell as the snitch and John Marston backs him up. Unfortunately, Dutch van der Linde sides with Micah, leading to a massive shootout. John and Arthur make their escape, but John realizes he’s reached the end of the road due to his TB.
John tells Arthur that he’ll stay behind and hold off the enemy forces. When Arthur tries to convince John to keep running, John gives Arthur his hat and tells him to care for Abigail and Jack. Arthur promises that he’ll do that before running to safety.
Several years later, Arthur is still with Abigail and Jack. Although he’s trying his best to leave the outlaw life, Arthur keeps getting involved in dangerous situations. This eventually leads to Abigail and Jack leaving him. Even though Arthur thinks to himself that they aren’t even his family, Arthur is then reminded of the promise he made to John. That he’ll take care of Abigail and Jack.
That’s when he remembers what John told him years ago. Arthur purchases Beecher’s Hope and builds a ranch for the Marstons. Abigail and Jack return and Abigail forgives Arthur.
Sadie Adler arrives and tells Arthur that Micah Bell is in the area. Arthur, along with Charles Smith, goes with her to avenge John. When Abigail begs him not to go, Arthur says that he wouldn’t even be here if it weren’t for John. Although he knows that revenge is a fool’s game, he justifies going after Micah Bell as “justice”. Arthur confronts Micah and, with the help of Dutch, kills him.
Before Dutch leaves, Arthur tries to convince him one more time that their time has passed. Dutch doesn’t answer (this also sets up their final encounter in which Dutch jumps off the cliff).
Arthur returns to Beecher’s Hope. He asks if he can stay on the ranch as a farmhand, which Abigail agrees to. Unbeknownst to him, Edgar Ross has tracked him down, leading into the events of the 1st game.
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iekeejkeek · 7 months ago
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cssandraa · 1 year ago
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dalekofchaos · 6 months ago
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Context for choice 2. Micah makes a deal with Ross. He'll give him Dutch in exchange for his freedom and the Blackwater money. However Micah expects a betrayal, eventually so he also gives his service to the Bureau to pledge his life to hunting down his fellow brother in arms. "I'm a patriot" Ross is disgusted with Micah's existence, but admits they need a man of his talents.
He hunts down Bill and Javier. He would’ve gone after Pearson, Tily, Mary-Beth, Trelawny, Swanson, Charles, Sadie and finally John and his family. Micah is a snake who would’ve done ANYTHING to save his own skin and a snake who needed to be put down. He would’ve hunted everyone who left and kill the Marstons’ when they finally got their peace.
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The X-Men #36 -September 1967- Marvel Comics
"Mekano Lives!"
edited by Stan Lee
script by Roy Thomas
 art by Ross Andru
inked by George Bell
lettered by Sam Rosen
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