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Elwing with her boys!
Aren't they cute little smols?
#before uncle Maedhros paid them a visit...#elf#lord of the rings#illustration#lotr#tolkien#medieval core#middle earth#lotr fanart#silmarillion#elves#elwing#elros#the silm#silm#earendil#elrond#elrond peredhel#elros tar minyatur#elrond and elros#elros peredhel#maedhros#the silamrillion#gouache art#gouache#the hobbit#cottagecore#fairycore#rivendell#jrr tolkien
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Emperor of Rivendell
+ two other versions
#my mom ordered the Rivendell Scott plushie for me the other day#and had to get the excitement out of my system before I exploded#RAAHHH I CANT WAIT FOR CHRISTMAS#empires s1#scott smajor#scott of rivendell#my art
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hi I drew Ethedis' mom Ethuilas, been very normal about her lately
#I'm lying I'm lying I'm lying she's so AAAAAAAAAAUGH#lotro#lotro oc#Ethuilas#she used to dress in brighter gold/green robes before Edhelion fell (based off elf PC's light starter robes)#but after she came to Rivendell everything got all grey and muted
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One of the best parts of Fellowship of the Ring is finding out about Aragorn and Bilbo’s friendship. Like I’ve seen people talk about how they collaborated on the song together, but I have yet to see people talk about this:
“[Bilbo] turned to Strider. ‘Where have you been, my friend? Why weren’t you at the feast? The Lady Arwen was there.’”
Bilbo Baggins, The Fellowship of the Ring pg. 261
Like. Bilbo was definitely one of Aragorn/Arwen’s chief shippers and no one can change my mind about that.
#Help I forgot their ship name#aragorn x arwen#but anyway Bilbo and Aragorn is an underrated friendship that needs to be brought up more#Especially since Bilbo is actually one of the closest in age to Aragorn in Rivendell#only like 40 years apart#As compared to the couple thousand years of Elladan and Elrohir#you can’t tell me those two didn’t bond over the crazy shit in the last ~hundred years they lived through#or that Bilbo didn’t use “well I’m older” at least once in conversation with him#because Bilbo’s a little shit and has to remind Aragorn that he’s the youngest guy there before the Fellowship and the Council#just imagine Bilbo watching Aragorn and Arwen skirt around each other for 17 years bc they have to wait until Aragorn’s king to get married#kiki re-re-re-reads the lord of the rings#just yelling into the void#the lord of the rings#aragorn#bilbo baggins#arwen undomiel#the fellowship of the ring#tolkien quotes#quotes
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Im just gonna say Xornoth had no right to turn out so good
#empires smp#empires s1#champion of exor au#empires scott#empires xornoth#scott smajor#dangthatsalongname#my art#btw yeah xornoth is king of rivendell in this au due to being the eldest son (biologically he is 33)#i believe in older brother xornoth supremacy#their parents are still alive but they handed the crown to xornoth shortly before the start of this story and are currently traveling#i may or not show them at least in a painting at some point. no promises tho#scott still helps around on ruling the empire but mayority of the responsibility falls on xornoth
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consider: Fingon gets catapulted into the future (specifically mid-Third Age Rivendell) from just after the Dagor Aglareb. So he's fresh off the victory—maybe it’s just after beating back baby Glaurung and this is dragon-magic at work—and he wakes up in a future in which everyone is dead, Morgoth's gone at the cost of all of Beleriand, there were two more kinslayings, the Oath is still unfulfilled and all the sons of Fëanor are dead which means Maedhros is in the Everlasting Darkness where Fingon can't reach him,
and he has no idea how to prevent any of this because there's maybe three people left who remember the Dagor Aglareb and one of them is Fingon
#it's not the worst possible future (because morgoth is gone) but that's basically the only upside fingon can see#he finds the little memorial elrond made for maglor and maedhros in a quiet corner of rivendell and that's how he finds out they're dead#elrond is away right now he's in gondor or something so fingon is finding these things out on his own#fingon checking the library: surely someone survived! maybe celebrimbor? or little finduilas?#he's very relieved to learn that idril lived to sail west. significantly less relieved to learn about his nephew who doesn't exist yet#(because basically all the information about maeglin was written by gondolindrim after the fall of gondolin so there's some bias there)#actually given when the dagor aglareb is relative to gondolin fingon's going 'oh is THAT why turgon's been ignoring us?'#because turgon only founded the city like ten years before the dagor aglareb starts
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Maybe it's just because I'm sleepy and my brain is tired and irritable, but I do wish fandom in general weren't so absolutely intent on casting all familial or quasi-familial relationships into some near approximation of US nuclear family idealization.
Acting as a caretaker for a child doesn't automatically make someone their "real parent" or "adopted parent" or "any parent at all" if the child doesn't see them that way. These caretaking relationships can be messy, begrudging, or essentially coercive (in both fiction and IRL, and in life, forcing children into situations where "they'll be taken care of" is often coercive and/or predatory).
And sometimes a caretaker adult, whether a natural parent, adoptive parent, some kind of guardian, or more amorphous caretaker, is ... bad, actually. It's understandable for the children they take care of (whether literal children or now-adult people who experienced it previously) to have had negative experiences they have complicated feelings about, to have complicated feelings about their caretakers that may not distill down to "real parents", to be capable of harsh criticism of their former caretakers, even if they love them.
Sometimes it is the simpler scenario where a child is adopted and it looks very much like a conventional "nuclear" relationship (though even then, the child can have more complex and inconvenient feelings than they're often supposed to have). But—okay, I may be biased from coming from a family that was licensed for foster care, which saw a lot of children essentially forced into foster care with varying complicated feelings about it that didn't always equate to "this person who looks after me is my mother"—even after a long time, sometimes.
And there's frequently a nasty pressure on children placed in "care" to either reach out to their birth or adoptive parents, or to wholly turn their backs on them and accept their current caretakers as the only parents who matter. But usually things are messier than that. You can care about a caretaker, you can respect and love them, and still not feel like you're their child. Or maybe you do! It just depends.
This can happen with siblings as well, especially when there's a big age difference—yeah, one of the siblings may be functionally filling the shoes of their parents as well as they can, but it doesn't necessarily make them actual parents in the eyes of their younger siblings (or themselves). It can, but doesn't have to. Or maybe it's something messier, like when the relationship is almost parental, but not quite, and the exact nature of the dynamic is hard to pin down.
There's also the case where the relationship may have been parental at one point, but one of the parties (usually the caretaker) burned bridges so badly that the child (often an adult at this point) cuts ties and doesn't deny that the caretaker filled a parental role back then, but wholly rejects it as any kind of current reality. This can happen with biological family, but also with looser caretaker relationships as well (esp the cultier ones).
I'm thinking of a lot of fandom examples of these kinds of indeterminate caretaker-child (or former child) relationships, where either we know or have good reason to believe the child doesn't regard a former caretaker as exactly the same as a parent, or we just don't know what the nature of the relationship is, and fandom will be absolutely insistent that the only possible way to read it is parent-child.
And also, sometimes there's nothing wrong with the caretaker relationship, but it's still not parent-child. It simply doesn't map onto this parental mold that fandom tries to box all adult-child caretaking relationships into, because family is more complicated than a single, very simplistic model allows.
#i know i've grumped about this before—both the trend and specific instances of it#but it never goes away so my annoyance is evergreen#i've always thought it interesting that austen persistently characterizes georgiana's perception of darcy as /almost/ a father#they're close in this caretaker-child way that could be parental but isn't /quite/#i also think that elrond loving aragorn as much as he loves elladan and elrohir is incredibly touching#but also that fandom tends to overlook gilraen's influence and how her being as much elrond's niece as arathorn was his nephew#may have played into the family dynamic at rivendell#i also wish there was more fic exploring the difference between how leia feels as an adopted daughter and luke as a loved nephew#because luke so emphatically identifies with anakin and considers padmé their 'real mother' and says he can't remember his#like ... it's very clear that he's not thinking of beru as his mother even though he loved her#but bail and breha are totally leia's parents!#it's okay for things to be complicated and messy in ways that a strict nuclear family structure doesn't account for#anghraine rants#general fanwank#long post#for the tags:#austen blogging#austen fanwank#legendarium blogging#legendarium fanwank#sw fanwank
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hc that as a side effect of the oath, the sons of feanor, as they became more and more silmaril-obsessed and oath-driven, start to become more and more like the things they swore the oath to.
like, they begin to look faded and washed out, aside from their eyes, which turn blindingly bright.
despite all the evil they’ve done, the silmarils are hallowed by varda, and so their skin burns to the touch of those who have also done wrong.
(also i think they should glow in the dark a little bit. as a treat.)
by the end of it they’re more wraiths than anything else, halfway between elf and those oathbreakers in RotK; the oath not only mentally but physically consumes them.
#of course this means that by the end maglor and maedhros are almost straight up see-through aside from their eyes#maybe over the centuries maglor slowly become solid again and his eyes begin to lose that brightness#ending up an only slightly brighter than normal version of the tree light#(happy ending) so if he ever ends up in rivendell elrond gets to see him more whole than he ever did before#(sad ending) he’s finally recovered from the effects of the oath but there’s nothing he can do to make up for his actions#anyways#tolkien#the silmarillion#tolkien headcanons#silmarillion headcanons#the sons of feanor#should i tag them all??#maedhros#maglor#celegorm#caranthir#curufin#amrod#amras#OHHH I HAVE ANOTHER THOUGHT what if maglor ends up back in valinor and he HASNT healed all the way but his reborn brothers HAVE
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Mr Scott Smajor himself
I couldn't decide which part to put on here so its a bit long, enjoy! (This one also has a lot of Xornoth. They also come as a set in this au. There are a lot of people who come as a set in this au.)
Scott isn't in the north-side sheep pen. Xornoth wasn't really expecting him to be, but its on the way to the owlery so it was worth checking just in case. And if it is also a little bit of procrastination that is between them and the voice in their head. Just when I think you can't get any more pathetic- And they aren't listening to the voice in their head. "-At least now I can stop waiting for the other shoe to drop I guess." Xornoth peeks around the corner of the stairwell, almost kocking their antlers against a lantern but managing to dodge it at the last second. Scott is sprawled on the floor, or well, his version of 'sprawled' which means sitting slightly less than bolt upright, legs criss-crossed and elbows on his knees as he stares down an owl that Xornoth is fairly certain belongs to one of the librarians. "I did get more than half a century, I guess. That's more freedom than I though. And it will be good for Rivendell, we really don't have any solid alliances other than the Overgrown and the Lost Empire. If I can do this for my people that's a good thing." Xornoth slid down the wall to sit on the stairs, just out of sight. The crown on their head had never before felt so heavy.
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#scott has five friends and four of them are owls#the other one is a sheep#ask and it shall be answered#j-caspian#rain rambles#character study snippets#empires smp#empires s1#xornoth#rivendell siblings#also before you come for me let me point out that mr smajor absolutely would make this kind of melodramatic monologue you know im right#also also someone get these two some therapy#smajor1995#marriage of state au#mos: asks#mos: sheeps#mos: rivendell siblings#mos: scott#mos: xornoth
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Trying to trim The Shadow Rises down to under two minutes. First attempt got it down to about three, but at this point things get a bit more challenging because there aren't really any bits in it now where I'm like, "Yeah, we can probably lose that." I have to make sacrifices now. Also it's a bit harder to splice pieces together now.
#i mean TECHNICALLY i can lose the rivendell theme at like 1:45#but i like it :(#also where it switches to the main theme immediately after does not play nice with what comes immediately before#and also the DUN dun DUN dun DUNDUNdun bits are a bit much#when theyre split by only one fairly quiet repetition of the main theme
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Lindir is generally considered a painfully shy and patient elf by the fandom but i have a headcanon that he's the most dangerous guy in Rivendell.
Hes good till he's good but when he's angry not even Elrond, the lord of Rivendell wants to face his wrath, that's why dwarves left nobody bothered to call them back because nobody wanted to invoke Lindir's infamous wrath by bringing back the dwarves.
#Lindir : Looks like violence is answer today#Elrond: Please Lindir dear Rivendell is supposed to be last homely house not last house to be in before been send back to Eru#elrond#hobbit#the hobbit#legolas#lotr#the lord of the rings#elrond peredhel#gandalf#lindir#the hobbit bilbo#bilbo baggins#dwarves#thorin oakenshield#king thorin#thorin the pain in the ass#kili#fili#bofur#bomber#etc#can't write all the dwarves name in the tags else lindir will come here to smack me
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everyone makes fun of the tonal shift mid-Fellowship but uh
Hitler invaded Poland as Tolkien was writing the end of Volume 1 (Frodo stabbed on Weathertop) so
it makes perfect sense actually
#before: hey dol merry dol ring a dong dillo :) :) :)#after: we hear drums drums in the deep. they are coming#everything from just before Rivendell to Mordor was written during the war
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watching the extended versions of the hobbit finally and omg it’s everything
#i seriously thought i’d seen it before but i recognise none of the entended scenes wxcept for bofur singing in rivendell#the hobbit
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i will never understand why peter jackson decided to make the dwarves so awful when they stay in rivendell. this is a conscious change that gives nothing. they’re our main characters that we’re supposed to like, WHY would you make them rude and discourteous to their host(s) for literally no reason?
because bestie elrond is bestie elrond, he’s letting 14 guys he’s never met stay in his house as guests, and the company responds by starting a food fight, bathing in a fountain, tearing up furniture to start a fire, et cetera et cetera. it makes them look like awful people who love being destructive at worst, and complete fucking idiots who can’t see what’s wrong with their behavior at worst.
#like you can say that their behavior in bag end was similar#but at least in bag end they thought that they were invited by someone who had been informed of their coming and already agreed to host them#and before thorin showed up it was a far less serious setting#meanwhile in rivendell they were not invited and are instead relying on the hospitality of mr kind as summer#who literally does not have to allow them to stay but does anyway out of the goodness of his heart fr#they're already on thin ice by being a party of 15 that shows up out of the blue and is like food plz 🥺👉👈#WHAT are you guys DOING????#and thorin is a king!! movie thorin is supposed to be a great king!!! isn't he supposed to be smarter than this???#WHY is his first response to insult his host who is also a foreign ruler TO HIS FACE#you INSULT lord elrond in his own house??????#what fucking gives???#i speak#tolkien tag#the hobbit
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The extra scenes with faramir all add so much! To the story as a whole and to the relationships between boromir and faramir and denethor and even though we all hate denethor they make him less 1 note idiot incompetance begets evil guy into a more complicated asshole. And also to see faramir as the 'ordinary' man with potential for good, hes Likable, unlike any other man aside from Aragorn. Hes Aragorn without a destiny or divine blood. Hes Eowyn but male and still trapped in a cage of (low) expectations. Also he is Nice to the hobbits. He is not only thinking of his place and his ambition and his kingdom he sees the bigger picture and sees that preserving goodness is his and everyones task. Hes Samwise Gamgee raised in a city of stone.
#the way they leave to retake osgiliath and the whole city knows its a funeral!!!#the way he talks to merry about not wanting to be a soldier#way back in tt when he and boromir talk before boromir is tasked to go to rivendell#not all men#true faramir son of denethor would never do this#lotr rotk
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watched the fellowship of the ring for the first time while high last night and the most i remember is that i was extremely upset they cut tom bombadil out of the story entirely
#context: just finished the book for the first time ever#have now moved on to the two towers#this is not helping me prep for my sem school interviews but i’m reading again#shut up mossy#fell asleep sometime before they left rivendell#woke up in time for the escape from moira
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