#because this is also how penelope thinks

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[dootznbootz]

Hi. I'm cyberbullying a long dead poet because of his shitty fanfic. Enjoy. I'd love it if you joined me.

(Before you get mad at me, yes, I know Eugammon of Cyrene is an important figure and all that. I'm sick with some sort of flu. Let me cyberbully an ancient dead fanfic writer in peace.)

[avantgardetheseventh]

"we need more complex female characters!" yall couldn't even handle cressida cowper

[lesbianredhoodedmercenary]

happy father's day i'm thinking about this outis line again

I always thought it was a bit out of pocket considering this isn't too long after the events of Canto III, even with how Outis was being harsher this Canto.

But I then I remembered that Outis' son is the same age as Sinclair.

Her son, who thinks that she died in the Smoke War (the in universe equivalent to the Trojan War as depicted in the Iliad and the Odyssey) because she hasn't been home in years. Her son who cannot cry out to her. And her son, who is currently in much the same position as Sinclair regarding his self-perception and ability to fight, as Telemachus refers to himself as "a weakling knowing nothing of valor" (Book 2 of the Odyssey, line number and exact wording depend on translation).

I think this line reflects more on Outis and her anxieties about her family thinking that she's dead, as well as a reference to Telemachus experiencing his own journey to manhood, much like Sinclair.

I think there's also things to be said for the parallels between Sinclair and Telemachus, even just the ones imagined by Outis. Hell's Chicken had her showing a very paternal worry over his diet (raise your hand if your dad has ever said you'll be short forever if you don't eat right). Overall, even though Sinclair and Telemachus only share the bones of a coming of age narrative, Outis is seeing connections there because she misses her family.

As with this one. Again, she's showing her hand more than she means to. Though she's talking to Dongrang, I think she's also talking to herself. Trying to reassure herself that home will always be waiting. Dongrang, however, decides not to return, but to pursue glory no matter who he hurts in the process. The Odyssey also contrasts the pursuit of glory with the desire to return home. Odysseus has to choose humility in order to return.

Outis has been keeping up a careful persona around us, but it's slipping. Her desire to return home is seeping through even as she tries to assert herself by clinging to the glory from a war that's long since ended.

[ispridestillasin]

So I decided to watch a bit of Bridgerton with my mother, which I'm not really interested in (I don't really like period pieces unless it's a fanfic for a ship I like) but it's a show she enjoys so I sometimes catch her watching it and join her, and literally the only takeaway from the stuff I've seen with her is that Colin, Lord Debling, and Penelope should have all been poly

[specialagentartemis]

I like the version of Odysseus’s story where he was not actually interested in marrying Helen. He showed up to Woo Helen and try to win her hand in marriage less because he actually wanted to and more because as the unmarried crown prince of Ithaca it would be an insult to Helen, Helen’s father the king of Sparta, and Helen’s future husband to publicly not care. But he knew he wouldn’t be chosen and was not trying. Vying for Helen’s hand was a diplomatic duty he was tolerating for politics.

Of course when he got to Sparta he met Helen’s cousin Penelope, fell head over heels for her, and when Helen chose Menelaus he went ohhhh nooo I’m so sad, what a loss, truly, I am being so honest about my disappointment right now, anyway now that I’m officially single hey Penelope :)

Which I think adds an underexplored element to attempt to get out of participating in the Trojan War. The thousand ships were launched not out of personal feelings of righteousness by all those Greek kings, but rather, because before Helen announced her choice of a husband, her father made all the suitors swear a sacred oath that whoever she chose, every man would accept that choice and defend her husband and restore her honor if anyone tried to kill her husband and abduct Helen for themselves. It was intended to stop Helen’s choice from immediately becoming a bloodbath, because there was a real threat that whoever she chose would immediately be killed by another jealous suitor who was rejected. But of course, Helen was not abducted by an unsuccessful suitor right then and there—she was abducted by Paris like nine years later. And Menelaus called on that oath that all the suitors made.

So you can imagine Odysseus, who never particularly wanted to marry Helen and was not trying that hard to win her hand and had no intention of abducting her to be his wife and was happy marrying Penelope and going back to Ithaca, getting called up by Menelaus, saying you swore the Suitors’ Oath! You need to go to war for me!

Odysseus who never even wanted to be a suitor in the first place, who never particularly wanted to marry Helen and did not care who she chose as her husband… I can imagine him staring at Menelaus’s messenger, going, what does this have to do with me? I never wanted to be part of all this in the first place!

[thedailydescent]

Every time I see advertisements for the third season of Bridgerton I'm forever thankful I gave up that liberal covid escapism show after season 2 when I realized that we were actually supposed to be rooting for the main character who exposed a black pregnant teenager and a feminist activist, and that there would be no lasting consequence for that because this show is really all about preserving social order and maintaining the nuclear family. why look at class segregation when you can look at these shirtless colonizers.

[riallasheng]

You know what I hate people like you who ignore and hate and downplay female characters! The only characters assholes like you like are the men, you never like the women! DIAF!!

...I think you might have sent this to the wrong person, anon?

I mean to go off the fandom I've been posting in the most recently, Lady Penelope (comics, novels, and tos) is, and always has been, my favorite character? Like most anyone who knows me knows I can and will go on for HOURS about how much I love that woman

If we're treating the Live Action shows as their own thing separate from the supermarionation, then Col. Lake from UFO is my favorite there? (and if we're combining puppet and live, she's tied with Scott for second place)

tosCS Destiny and Rhapsody are easily in my top 5 in CS Lady Ochre and lt Green in nCS are also easily in my top 5 n nCS

Kayo is my favorite TaG character, and Moffat, Casey, and O'Bannon are my favorite reoccurring (although Rigby is in there too) I even like tagPenny, although she (like Kayo) is so different from the TOS version that she's basically a new original character.

To go to older fandoms I'm no longer really active in (and this is down to me really disliking how Astruc handled the series and losing interest in it) Marinette is tied with Adrien for my favorite character in Miraculous, with Alya and Kagami also sharing a tie in second place?

In the fandom I've been in longer than Anderverse... which I'm still active in, even if not here on tumblr... Elita (g1 and the netflix series), Arcee (g1), Arcee (tfp), Strongarm, AIR RAZOR, Black Arachnia, Airachnid... there are a TON of female characters I adore who are consistently in my 'top five favs' for each show / iteration

I could go on, honestly.

Are there female characters I dislike? ones that I, even worse from a reading/watching perspective find boring?

Yup. Heck, even some I hate.

There are also male characters I dislike, am bored by, or hate.

[buttercup-art]

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH OMG OMG OMG-

[froggychair05]

“What went so wrong?”

[rainybraindays]

I keep seeing things where people are like "it was so nice to see Colin's satisfied little smirk fall when he realized she wasn't going to fall over herself for him anymore" because they seem to think he really only sees Penelope as an ego boost, but like...my guy just found out he hurt one of his best friends feelings? And thats why shes been ignoring him for months? Hes not upset because his ego isn't getting stroked, he's upset because he hurt someone he cares about. Why is it so hard for y'all to grasp

[dootznbootz]

You know that after every shitty retelling release that mischaracterizes Odysseus, he goes up to Penelope with big weepy eyes like "You know I love you, right? (╯︵╰,) I know [insert whatever the new bullshit is] says I don't but I do."

She has to reassure him that she knows he does and that she loves him too.

[pumpkin-wants-a-cherry-scone]

Re: tokyo mew mew AU

so I changed the whole thing pretty much BUT.

Her animal is still a forest owlet, but her fruit is mangosteen. I changed things to fit mangosteen (quick drawing of mangosteen depicted on the left; ignore my attempt at a star fruit next to it. I was brainstorming)

Name: Mew Mango (not mangosteen cause that's too long to say :p) (slightly confusing) (I guess the whole thing is fine) (idk) (if anyone feels compelled you can create your own name I'd love to hear one) (I'm not being sarcastic)

Weapon: Da-mango-maru (instrument is a damaru)

Attack: ribbon mangostaan-u storm-o (or smthn)? (unsure on how well storm and the damaru match. but maybe the sound of the drum could be like rain?)

@ebbpettier

apologies that I took a month. I hope you have not perished

not sure where her mew mark would be? maybe on her back (like mint). I'm slightly tempted to have it on her knee/back of her knee lol

it's probably obvious, but none of this is set in stone

redrew this picture of mint:

[sideblogforcrimpy-plus]

Been reading a bunch of thrillers recently and what if cm fic with Penny as the main character just experiencing as much of that as my angst adverse heart can take? More on this when my brain allows it

[thegirlwholivesin-delusion]

Absolutely dni with me or my blog if you simp for rezef hill.

That dude is a huge red flag and I'm so confused (and disgusted) to see so many rezef×reader fics in this tag.

[freebooter4ever]

Bridgerton rewatch won out over mr robo*t bc frankly when my life is falling apart, if choosing between romance fantasy vs depressive reality im probably gonna pick the fantasy. BUT. Somehow the first time i watched season one i must have missed this scene? I confess as many times as i rewatched season 2 i still kinda hated anthony bc i thought that he just casually tossed the singer girl aside without thought after promising to love her forever... And it turns out she dumped him??? And here i was thinking he was just another wealthy male character who throws his money around and uses women until he's bored, and that in season two kate was simply the First Woman Worth Changing For - you know, that trope where the asshole finally meets someone he values and suddenly changes. Which always sounds fake in stories to me, and i usually despise (why cant men treat all women with respect and dignity even the ones they dont want?). Except in kate's case she was just That Amazing that i ignored anthony's sudden change from asshole to romantic.

But yeah no apparently anthony has been a romantic the entire time, he just had his heart broken. ;_; sorry anthony