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#colin girlies got fed#colin bridgerton#luke newton#polin#because this is also how penelope thinks#i'm losing my entire fucking mind#good for all of us tbh
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Hi. I'm cyberbullying a long dead poet because of his shitty fanfic. Enjoy. I'd love it if you joined me.
(Before you get mad at me, yes, I know Eugammon of Cyrene is an important figure and all that. I'm sick with some sort of flu. Let me cyberbully an ancient dead fanfic writer in peace.)
#I think my favorite is the astronaut one lol#because I wanna see Homer fed up and just start taking people out.#Also Penelope not putting up with some little shit.#You know what? I'm gonna be a bitch to people who bring up Telegonus to me and be like “Oh? You mean Polites' son?👁👁”#just to fuck with people >:)#Can you imagine how confused and mad people would get at me??? I love it.#Eris threw the Golden Apple into Thetis' and Peleus' wedding and I threw this shit into tumblr#guys I'm on weird flu medicine aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa#I have not slept much because of it🙃#Mad rambles#am I funny yet?#shot by odysseus#anti circe#anti madeline miller#tele-GONE-y#odysseus#penelope#odyssey#the odyssey#tagamemnon#greek mythology#odypen#greek myth memes#Mad memes#penelope of ithaca
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I am once again thinking about how odysseus who witnessed the horrors that the captured women went through (one of his main duties in the iliad was taking the women back home and making sure they were as comfortable as possible and safe because he was the only one trusted not to violate them further due to his devotion to penelope. And in the odyssey part of the reason circe sent him to the underworld was so that he'd have to listen to all these women's stories (before he could talk to the prophet) ). Who was one of the few that saw women as people and respected their space and opinions. And was then put in those exact same situations. I don't have the motivation right now to do a full literary analysis of this (I'll site the sources too) but oh man one day I'm going to write a full essay on this.
#The odyssey#iliad#Odysseus#Tw: rape#Tw: sex slaves#Tw: camp slaves#Tw: That one time Calypso kept odysseus as a sex slave for 7 years#circe#Something about the inherent trauma of witnessing how your friends treat women#Watching them keep sex slaves#Then having to bring these girls home hearing about their stories seeing the aftermath#Then living in a situation where you have to let a powerful witch use you as she pleases half in payment for lives/food/medicine#Half because she has the equivalent of a gun to your best friends head and if you don't keep her happy then youre all dead#And then that witch sends you on a quest to the underworld where granted you'll benefit too but first#You have to listen to every single captured women from the Trojan war that you didn't Shepard home tell you their stories#Tell you that you're a horrible person while you are living in a disturbingly similar situation#And then later finding yourself trapped as a sex slave for seven years to an immortal nymph#And then being labeled as a horrible cheater for the rest of history#And none of this well historically everybody cheated or it's up to interpretation bullshit#Because it fucking isn't and granted a lot of abridged versions skip this shit#But if you read the full original stories and still think odysseus cheated then you just have an issue with men being victims#Or weren't paying attention i guess#Where's that meme where's it like the text was up to interpretation cut to the text where it very bluntly states what's happening#And I'm not saying odysseus was a good person or that he didn't have slaves because he did. And he wasnt#But first off nobody deserves to suffer that violation#Second they weren't sex slaves they were all nurses/maids/spys and I'm not getting into the ancient culture slavery issues rn#Third there's a lot you can pick to hate odysseus for but cheating/disrespecting women wasn't one of them#They literally invented a new word to describe his and penelopes love and it means to be so in love that you think the exact same way#Also forcing this narrative of odysseus cheating and penelope leaving to be a single girl boss is#Just the fake feminist mindset that stay at home moms are weak and wrong and live awful lives
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happy father's day i'm thinking about this outis line again
I always thought it was a bit out of pocket considering this isn't too long after the events of Canto III, even with how Outis was being harsher this Canto.
But I then I remembered that Outis' son is the same age as Sinclair.
Her son, who thinks that she died in the Smoke War (the in universe equivalent to the Trojan War as depicted in the Iliad and the Odyssey) because she hasn't been home in years. Her son who cannot cry out to her. And her son, who is currently in much the same position as Sinclair regarding his self-perception and ability to fight, as Telemachus refers to himself as "a weakling knowing nothing of valor" (Book 2 of the Odyssey, line number and exact wording depend on translation).
I think this line reflects more on Outis and her anxieties about her family thinking that she's dead, as well as a reference to Telemachus experiencing his own journey to manhood, much like Sinclair.
I think there's also things to be said for the parallels between Sinclair and Telemachus, even just the ones imagined by Outis. Hell's Chicken had her showing a very paternal worry over his diet (raise your hand if your dad has ever said you'll be short forever if you don't eat right). Overall, even though Sinclair and Telemachus only share the bones of a coming of age narrative, Outis is seeing connections there because she misses her family.
As with this one. Again, she's showing her hand more than she means to. Though she's talking to Dongrang, I think she's also talking to herself. Trying to reassure herself that home will always be waiting. Dongrang, however, decides not to return, but to pursue glory no matter who he hurts in the process. The Odyssey also contrasts the pursuit of glory with the desire to return home. Odysseus has to choose humility in order to return.
Outis has been keeping up a careful persona around us, but it's slipping. Her desire to return home is seeping through even as she tries to assert herself by clinging to the glory from a war that's long since ended.
#limbus company#outis lcb#outis makes me insane i need to bite something#outis is canto 11 going by release order... that's so far away#penelope and telemachus i need to think about them and see them#rotating them in my mind every day#and. i can't unpack homeric ideals of masculinity with how the odyssey treats telemachus' coming of age and#how that's going to influence outis' writing and how she treats sinclair. because that would take way too long#but y'know#that's another post. and that's also a post about gender. like. i can see the title now#Homeric Masculinity. Butchness. and The Meaning of Manhood: a Closer Look at Outis' Gender in Limbus Company#i title my shit like academic articles do not @ me#like. i know gender isn't really a factor in the city. but from a meta-textual level i think it's interesting and i'm a butch lesbian so#also this is a scheduled post. i am scheduling it for fathers day because i would not remember otherwise. so hi from the past
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So I decided to watch a bit of Bridgerton with my mother, which I'm not really interested in (I don't really like period pieces unless it's a fanfic for a ship I like) but it's a show she enjoys so I sometimes catch her watching it and join her, and literally the only takeaway from the stuff I've seen with her is that Colin, Lord Debling, and Penelope should have all been poly
#guys listen a lot of shit could have been solved if they had just been poly (says local poly relationship writer & enjoyer)#i know polin is like the Ship this season from what i've seen when i lightly check out the bridgerton fandom#but i really enjoyed the chemistry between penelope & debling. they were cute.#that scene where he asked in a roundabout way how to propose to her. it was sweet. also the way he stuttered was really cute.#i also imagined colin & debling together in a world where polyamory & queer relationships weren't frowned upon#and i think they would be cute. he & colin would have a fun dynamic because debling's similair to pen but also he still very different#and i think that seeing colin being oblivious about liking him would be cute#it would definitely add to the drama if violet didn't really understand that colin was into both pen & debling at first. but when she does.#she spends the entire time with her head in her hands because her son is so bad at recognizing his feelings.#i just think the two would be really cute if the time period wasn't. you know. very unaccepting of queer relationships.#bridgerton#penelope featherington#colin bridgerton#lord debling#alfred debling#polin#colin x penelope#pebling#penelope x lord debling#colin x penelope x lord debling#colin x lord debling#god i think i'm the only one adding to that tag. if not creating it. oh well.#please don't bother interacting with this post if you're just going to say that polin is superior or whatever. literally just block me dude#yuri's thoughts & rambles#bridgerton season 3#bridgerton spoilers#this literally might be the only time i even use the bridgerton tag
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I like the version of Odysseus’s story where he was not actually interested in marrying Helen. He showed up to Woo Helen and try to win her hand in marriage less because he actually wanted to and more because as the unmarried crown prince of Ithaca it would be an insult to Helen, Helen’s father the king of Sparta, and Helen’s future husband to publicly not care. But he knew he wouldn’t be chosen and was not trying. Vying for Helen’s hand was a diplomatic duty he was tolerating for politics.
Of course when he got to Sparta he met Helen’s cousin Penelope, fell head over heels for her, and when Helen chose Menelaus he went ohhhh nooo I’m so sad, what a loss, truly, I am being so honest about my disappointment right now, anyway now that I’m officially single hey Penelope :)
Which I think adds an underexplored element to attempt to get out of participating in the Trojan War. The thousand ships were launched not out of personal feelings of righteousness by all those Greek kings, but rather, because before Helen announced her choice of a husband, her father made all the suitors swear a sacred oath that whoever she chose, every man would accept that choice and defend her husband and restore her honor if anyone tried to kill her husband and abduct Helen for themselves. It was intended to stop Helen’s choice from immediately becoming a bloodbath, because there was a real threat that whoever she chose would immediately be killed by another jealous suitor who was rejected. But of course, Helen was not abducted by an unsuccessful suitor right then and there—she was abducted by Paris like nine years later. And Menelaus called on that oath that all the suitors made.
So you can imagine Odysseus, who never particularly wanted to marry Helen and was not trying that hard to win her hand and had no intention of abducting her to be his wife and was happy marrying Penelope and going back to Ithaca, getting called up by Menelaus, saying you swore the Suitors’ Oath! You need to go to war for me!
Odysseus who never even wanted to be a suitor in the first place, who never particularly wanted to marry Helen and did not care who she chose as her husband… I can imagine him staring at Menelaus’s messenger, going, what does this have to do with me? I never wanted to be part of all this in the first place!
#I don’t think Odysseus is morally opposed to war at all#I think his resistance & resentment was fully I Don’t Want To Leave My Home And Family To Go Fight and also this is Not My Problem#Keeps getting dragged into shit over Helen. He is Grouchy#He is also a hypocrite because getting dragged to Sparta to Woo Helen is how he met Penelope lol#But he’s happy with his home and kingdom. His wife and his son. He does not fuckin care what Helen did. That’s a You Problem#tagamemnon#the Iliad
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Every time I see advertisements for the third season of Bridgerton I'm forever thankful I gave up that liberal covid escapism show after season 2 when I realized that we were actually supposed to be rooting for the main character who exposed a black pregnant teenager and a feminist activist, and that there would be no lasting consequence for that because this show is really all about preserving social order and maintaining the nuclear family. why look at class segregation when you can look at these shirtless colonizers.
#bridgerton#marina thompson#eloise bridgerton#r.i.p. marina you were my favourite 😭#it's kind of shocking how i used to talk to my family about this show and they're like oh yeah i really like penelope#i didn't like marina and eloise penelope was right to do what she did 👀👀👀#like the social order and nuclear family ideals are really that embedded into us and then we wonder why the tradwife trend is#suddenly gaining popularity#also eloise the lesbian coded character looks doomed to marry that guy who wants someone to take care of his kids so he can plant all day#the show's messaging paints any attempts other than being a virgin and marrying the socially acceptable way as a futile endeavor#colourblindness and centrism- the show at its' core#man i must have been really starved for content during quarantine because like what was i thinking how did i like this trash??? 😭
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You know what I hate people like you who ignore and hate and downplay female characters! The only characters assholes like you like are the men, you never like the women! DIAF!!
...I think you might have sent this to the wrong person, anon?
I mean to go off the fandom I've been posting in the most recently, Lady Penelope (comics, novels, and tos) is, and always has been, my favorite character? Like most anyone who knows me knows I can and will go on for HOURS about how much I love that woman
If we're treating the Live Action shows as their own thing separate from the supermarionation, then Col. Lake from UFO is my favorite there? (and if we're combining puppet and live, she's tied with Scott for second place)
tosCS Destiny and Rhapsody are easily in my top 5 in CS Lady Ochre and lt Green in nCS are also easily in my top 5 n nCS
Kayo is my favorite TaG character, and Moffat, Casey, and O'Bannon are my favorite reoccurring (although Rigby is in there too) I even like tagPenny, although she (like Kayo) is so different from the TOS version that she's basically a new original character.
To go to older fandoms I'm no longer really active in (and this is down to me really disliking how Astruc handled the series and losing interest in it) Marinette is tied with Adrien for my favorite character in Miraculous, with Alya and Kagami also sharing a tie in second place?
In the fandom I've been in longer than Anderverse... which I'm still active in, even if not here on tumblr... Elita (g1 and the netflix series), Arcee (g1), Arcee (tfp), Strongarm, AIR RAZOR, Black Arachnia, Airachnid... there are a TON of female characters I adore who are consistently in my 'top five favs' for each show / iteration
I could go on, honestly.
Are there female characters I dislike? ones that I, even worse from a reading/watching perspective find boring?
Yup. Heck, even some I hate.
There are also male characters I dislike, am bored by, or hate.
#I am *shrug emoji*#...#also I'm probably gonna regret this#but what does diaf mean?#(but seriously#(I'm assuming that this is a case of 'sent to the wrong person'#(because one would hope I've been pretty clear about just how much I adore Lady Penelope#...also I think I've annoyed people rambling about how much I adore Lake ^^;;#There is a REASON the first character collage I made was of Lady Penelope (and the first of the new set was of TinTin)
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH OMG OMG OMG-
#sorry i just listened to the Wisdom Saga and I'm SO EXCITED AAAHHHHHH#i was so hyped the whole time watching Jorge's stream! all of the animatics were awesome!! and the vocals!#i gotta talk about it#all of the songs were AMAZING!#i think my favorite song from this saga is between 'Little Wolf' and 'Love in Paradise'#'Little Wolf' gave me CHILLS#i literally gasped when Athena showed up! her parts were really cool!!#and 'Love in Paradise' is so catchy!#also 'God Games' was genuinely heartbreaking at the end#because Athena - who is known for being very prideful#pushes her pride aside and BEGS Zeus to let Odysseus go from Calypso's island#and the way she says it aaahh!!#and i will never get over Aphrodite's and Hera's parts#they're kinda short but they really stand out!#i love how Aphrodite isn't only concerned about romantic love but all types of love#like she's mad at Odysseus for breaking his mother's heart by leaving and never coming back to see her again#he “claims to love his mother but let her die of a broken heart”#and she tells Athena to let Odysseus rot on Calypso's island and feel the pain his mother felt (by never getting to see Penelope again)#“let him feel the pain that his mother felt and rot!” i love that line!#and i'm so obessed with Hera's “hey baby” at the beginning of her part#her section is pretty short but it's such a groove!#aaaahhh anyway sorry sorry!!#i'm just feeling so many things right now
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“What went so wrong?”
#dungeon meshi#marcille donato#dungeon meshi spoilers#kind of??#also#blood#this part made me lose my MARBLES#her hairstyle was so pretty though augh#Sin Eater by Penelope Scott (the lyrics I used here) is. SO VERY VERY dunmeshi coded…….#might do a piece with this song with Laios too because I have an idea#I had to mess with the colors a little because when I moved the picture to my phone it screwed them up really bad 😔#but I think I got it close to how it’s supposed to look#my art
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I keep seeing things where people are like "it was so nice to see Colin's satisfied little smirk fall when he realized she wasn't going to fall over herself for him anymore" because they seem to think he really only sees Penelope as an ego boost, but like...my guy just found out he hurt one of his best friends feelings? And thats why shes been ignoring him for months? Hes not upset because his ego isn't getting stroked, he's upset because he hurt someone he cares about. Why is it so hard for y'all to grasp
#rainy talks#the way people look at him; nicest man alive; who has yet to be intentionally mean to anyone#and think he just sees Penelope as some ego boost#like he very clearly sees her as his *friend* and he's upset because shes upset#literally how are you people going to handle him getting upset at her for Whistledown#because like in the books where she does significantly less damage#he gets UPSET#y'all gonna get pissed about this??#not to mention Penelope lashing put like this at him#is because hes the only person around her that'll take it#but thas just my opinion and its 3 am ad I am not writing an essay about that rn#and like even if he does see her as an ego boost;arguably so does she!!!#but again i am NOT getting into tjis#I'm just a massive colin defender#I'll also defend pen for alot of shit but man she doesn't need it shes got a whole fucking posse and hes got like 3 gays who love him
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You know that after every shitty retelling release that mischaracterizes Odysseus, he goes up to Penelope with big weepy eyes like "You know I love you, right? (╯︵╰,) I know [insert whatever the new bullshit is] says I don't but I do."
She has to reassure him that she knows he does and that she loves him too.
#You know the edited cats with those big sad wet eyes? that's how he comes up to her. That's how he looks. weepy lil simp#and every time this happens she is crocheting a noose btw. stop shittalking her man. He's getting SAD#Odysseus is weepy and moping with his head in her lap and she's staring you dead in the eye as she's making it.#(crocheting because I don't think you could easily WEAVE a noose on a loom and also she would absolutely learn everything she could lol)#“Husband. I saw this lady with this little stick with a hook and I need to learn it too. Please carve a weird little hook stick for me”#“Okay🥰”#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#penelope#odysseus#odypen#anti madeline miller#Not all Mads think alike👀#penelope of ithaca
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Re: tokyo mew mew AU
so I changed the whole thing pretty much BUT.
Her animal is still a forest owlet, but her fruit is mangosteen. I changed things to fit mangosteen (quick drawing of mangosteen depicted on the left; ignore my attempt at a star fruit next to it. I was brainstorming)
Name: Mew Mango (not mangosteen cause that's too long to say :p) (slightly confusing) (I guess the whole thing is fine) (idk) (if anyone feels compelled you can create your own name I'd love to hear one) (I'm not being sarcastic)
Weapon: Da-mango-maru (instrument is a damaru)
Attack: ribbon mangostaan-u storm-o (or smthn)? (unsure on how well storm and the damaru match. but maybe the sound of the drum could be like rain?)
@ebbpettier
apologies that I took a month. I hope you have not perished
not sure where her mew mark would be? maybe on her back (like mint). I'm slightly tempted to have it on her knee/back of her knee lol
it's probably obvious, but none of this is set in stone
redrew this picture of mint:
#frankly its been A Hot Minute since I've watched tokyo mew mew#but this is fun!#I feel like doing simon and maybe agatha too#I did the cape thing instead if the puffs because I wanted it to look like owl wings (plus stevie nicks ofc)#since I changed the color I wasn't sure how to make her look owl-ish#the glasses were the only owl thing besides the color and I don't know if it comes across#well the hair is shorter than I would usually draw penny's hair because I wanted it to have the owlet's silhouette but again#not sure if it reads like that#the choice of mangosteen is questionable. it might be too long. I kinda like it though#if I did simon I feel like I would need to do cherry as his fruit#but I like dragonfruit or rambutan as well#but sour cherries scones!!#conflicted#penelope bunce#also I don't even know how many people know what rambutan is if they aren't asian#I can't remember if it was tokyo mew mew or a different anime that said that boys couldn't be mew/magical#like the reasoning was about emotions or smthn#I feel like simon has plenty of emotion though#I mean I could either a) ignore that or b) do something with that#I'd have to think about it#I feel like I should make her weapon ring related but I also think the damaru is fine#I did give her a skirt this time though#I wanted to do it with the first drawing but I didn't think it matched the overall outfit
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Been reading a bunch of thrillers recently and what if cm fic with Penny as the main character just experiencing as much of that as my angst adverse heart can take? More on this when my brain allows it
#I'm thinking we get heck flirty Derek and Penelope#friends with feelings penemily#spencer/penelope besties#awkward Derek Spencer dynamic as they realise feelings because Derek flirts so heavily with Penelope and doesn't know how to flirt w/Spencer#and Penelope is watching this all happen like 'aw my sweet little idiots'#but at the same time she's becoming more and more unsettled by Events#and she's trying so hard to be cool about it#and they're working on a case (have been for a while bc it's slow and on the backburner) that starts to feel a little too#uncanny#a little too relatable#and now she feels like an idiot because she hasn't told the team and she should know better that's ao stupid of her#but when she goes to bring it up with anyone she feels like she's being silly and drawing their scary work into her daily life#and maybe she just needs to Chill Out#but also maybe she tells Emily and asks her to keep her fear secret bc she feels stupid and it's all probably fine#and Emily earns her trust by doing so#but at what cost?#god I want to read it and it's devastating I have to write it first
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Absolutely dni with me or my blog if you simp for rezef hill.
That dude is a huge red flag and I'm so confused (and disgusted) to see so many rezef×reader fics in this tag.
#I absolutely hate him#and the way he killed her nanny?#DISGUSTING#I hate him sm istg#I also hate how he considers Cayena to be his property and I'm truly disgusted by him#get your revenge on him my dear Cayena#Kill if you want to#I used to think he was ok-ok until he killed her nanny.#this reminded me of how eclipse betrayed penelope and brought back ivonne eckhart in the series death is the only ending for the villainess#all because they wanted the fl to depend on them.....#crazy#the villainess is a marionette#rezef hill#cayena hill#not q
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Bridgerton rewatch won out over mr robo*t bc frankly when my life is falling apart, if choosing between romance fantasy vs depressive reality im probably gonna pick the fantasy. BUT. Somehow the first time i watched season one i must have missed this scene? I confess as many times as i rewatched season 2 i still kinda hated anthony bc i thought that he just casually tossed the singer girl aside without thought after promising to love her forever... And it turns out she dumped him??? And here i was thinking he was just another wealthy male character who throws his money around and uses women until he's bored, and that in season two kate was simply the First Woman Worth Changing For - you know, that trope where the asshole finally meets someone he values and suddenly changes. Which always sounds fake in stories to me, and i usually despise (why cant men treat all women with respect and dignity even the ones they dont want?). Except in kate's case she was just That Amazing that i ignored anthony's sudden change from asshole to romantic.
But yeah no apparently anthony has been a romantic the entire time, he just had his heart broken. ;_; sorry anthony
#Bridgerton liveblog#I have no idea how i missed this#I think i actually only watched season 1 once#Even though i have watched season at least three times lmaoooooooo#Kate is THAT amazing :P#Im nervous for season 3#Like penelope is relatable precisely because shes just like us (the viewers)#On the sidelines just watching all the romantic drama play out vicariously#I identified with her and sympathized with her even with some of the shitty stuff she did#But whats going to happen when she has her romance???? Also she and colin have zero chemistry?#But then again i hated anthony all of season 1 and then his romance in season 2 ended up being my favorite so#I am prepared to be very wrong about penelope and colin
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