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I know the decision to have Julian's parents have him augmented was made on the fly but imo its pretty obvious from early on that Julian has Family Issues because he avoids talking about his family like the plague and I think they should've incorporated this into the Julian and Sisko dynamic right from early on because I think it would've made for some really compelling stories and moments and could've set up a REALLY interesting Julian and Jake dynamic which they kinda started to do but never fully went for
#star trek: ds9#julian bashir#benjamin sisko#jake sisko#s1 Julian being so young and eager to prove himself and latching onto Sisko as this mentor figure to look up to#seeing Sisko with Jake and low-key seeking that fatherly figure connection which he won't even let himself think about#Sisko seeing this young brilliant doctor who's got all the makings to be something great and he's just GOTTA help him along#I think he would also catch on pretty quick that Julian's got Parental Issues#he tries to ask one day all casual like 'tell me about yourself :)' and Julian talks about nothing but Starfleet and med school#any attempts to ask about his family are met with awkward brief answers and redirections#and then theres the way Julian's eyes light up the first time Sisko invites him to watch a baseball game#like he Knows. he's a dad he Knows somethings up#but he doesnt pry#I also think it makes their dynamic more tragic towards the end of the series#where we have Sisko asking Julian to compromise his morals again and again#Julian's trust and respect for him gradually deteriorating#and then at the end of course Sisko is gone and they have no idea when he'll be back#which I think Julian would have a lot of complicated feelings about#but of course theres also Jake#I imagine they'd get closer#very brotherly dynamic#you know that scene in TNG where Wesley goes to Riker for girl advice and Riker and Guinan start flirting?#absolutely happens but with Jake asking Julian for girl advice and Julian wooing a girl at Quark's and Jake absolutely loses the plot#makes the events of ...Nor the Battle to the Strong more intense as well I think#also I like to think there'd be an episode where the B plot is Jake gets mad at Sisko and impulsively decides to move out#ends up at Julian's because he did not think this through#Julian is now very much caught in the middle of this family drama and he Fucking Hates It#also him and Jake are NOT compatible roommates but he's trying so so hard to be nice#eventually they have a talk and Julian cryptically hints at his own home life and tells Jake he's lucky he has a dad who cares so much#them being closer would work into what Alone Together sets up for them
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sorry to get angsty on main but I really wanna see a crossover fic where Five Hargreeves meets Bruce Wayne and the topic of, y’know, what would you do for your family, the morality of killing in a given context, etcetera comes up. And a bit of dialogue just going like
Bruce: But once you cross that line, where does it stop?
Five: It doesn’t have to stop — they just have to live.
#batman#five hargreeves#tua#crossover thoughts#dc crossover#tua crossover#unironically I think witnessing that interaction would fuck Jason up even more#I also think Bruce would have a ton of complicated feelings about Five#but Five would be so indifferent to him as to border on being insulting#Five would not adopt Jason because he already has a bunch of self-destructive ppl to protect#but they’d have a dynamic of mutual respect#I just think they’d understand each other on a viscerally tragic level#they make eye contact and recognize the strain of loving people who can never love them back with the same insane level of devotion because#that level of devotion IS fundamentally insane#and they recognize the willingness to cross certain lines but no desire to do so but also every reason and motivation that means they do#and then they break eye contact and it never comes up again#jason todd#in the tags lmfao#Constantine would either see Klaus and nope the fuck out or be Very Interested dealer’s choice
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Imagine you're Mr. Wu and your weird gay daughter runs away in tears after destroying some unespecified object while yelling about you ruining her life. Because you told her you'd be moving to another state. This is the last time you see your daughter in half a year, and when she comes back, she comes back... wrong. She's wearing a light leather armor, a fur-lined cape, and a green flower crown. She has two long scars, one alongside her spine and the other along her chest, the tissue around them covered in burn scars. Doctors say she shouldn't have survived. Doctors say she didn't. Yet she's right here, in front of you, hospital gown clinging to her small, fragile, trembling frame. She fidgets with her hands. Getting her to stay still has always been difficult, but now it seems impossible. She won't let go of her phone. She's always texting her two friends. When you take it away, she gets anxious. You always knew those damn phones cause kids to act weird, but your kid having a panic attack seems too extreme, even for her. Then again, she's always been odd. Nowadays, she wakes up crying and screaming almost every night, and you realize she's been stealing her phone from your bedside drawer every night to text her friends, returning it before you wake up. You catch her once and decide to give her that damn phone back. It's the only thing that calms her down, as if she were a baby with a pacifier. She spends her last weeks in LA clinging to her friends, having sleepovers and playing her weird board games with them. Everytime they drop her back at her house, there's an excessive amount of hugs and tears. But the moments when they call her, or when she leaves to meet with them, or when they show up at their door to pick her up... those are the only moments in which you see her happy. One of her friends, the rude and disobedient one, came back with a big scar on her face. She's been acting a lot nicer, though. The other one too. She acts a great deal more adult now. You doesn't know what happened or where your daughter went. She won't tell you. But you can tell this friendship is the only thing keeping her afloat right now. Maybe you know, deep down, that no one else would understand.
And then you decide to move anyway because fuck her amirite
#amphibia#marcy wu#my posts#so like what if marcy moving away was a proper tragedy#what if things were WORSE for her#what if *smashes marcy with a ROCK*#i realized that.#despite my parents being shitty (just found out literaly today my mom had doctors give me the wrong treatment because she assumed my body#would react the same way as hers. instead of doing what literally every doctor told her to do. now i need to get it fixed)#they still asked me how I felt about moving away to a different province when in like. 8.#like. oh right. this is something parents generally ask their kids about. instead of uprooting their entire lives out of nowhere.#marcy's situation is complicated in a narrative sense because#in order for her arc to work her departure must be dictated by morally neutral forces outside of her control#but her parents' decision seems very shitty with the context we're given. you COULD give context that justified their actions#i.e have them explain that they really do need this if they want marcy to go to college or some shit like that#but then it stops being Marcy vs. Forces of Nature#and it becomes Marcy vs. Her Dad (and she has to accept he's right in this one)#the show is clearly for a Marcy vs. Forces of Nature conflict (in this case it's the inevitability of change)#and in order to keep the antagonistic force abstract you CAN'T have her dad be a proper character#BUT. as a consequence -> Marcy has to give into the ''#the ''natural order'' which would be accepting her parents' power over her as natural and inevitable#it's not even like... accepting her parents are right or anything. just that their o#that their complete control of the situation and marcy's total powerlessness is natural and inevitable#and that's tragic! from a more watsonian ñerspective#perspective* : Marcy is sent back to her shitty parents and she just needs to learn how to deal with it away from her support system#the solution imo would have been to change the motivation behind her family moving away so that it's outside her parents' control too#it really has to be completely inevitable. i can't think of an alternative reason but it's just what it#it's what would fix this problem imo#it's a simple fix really
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viren starts to use dark magic -> he devotes himself to harrow because harrow makes him feel smart + powerful for his use of dark magic -> they commit atrocities -> harrow has a crisis of conscience in the face of his own mortality -> he tells viren to get to his knees and calls him a servant -> harrow dies -> viren devotes himself to aaravos because aaravos makes him feel smart + powerful for his use of dark magic -> they commit atrocities -> viren dies -> viren is revived -> he has a crisis of conscience in the face of his own mortality and decides to sacrifice himself for harrow's former kingdom and people -> in his final moments he gets to his knees and says "i am a servant". flawless arc honestly
#viren tdp#lord viren#varrow#<- cuz lets be fucking real.#viren was living his best life doing horrendous things in harrow's name. getting his approval and feeling oh so useful and powerful#he got cocky. tried to repeat the formula with someone far far crueller and more manipulative than harrow.#quite literally flew close to the sun and died in the process#and then he was like that was so scary that was soso scary harrow save me. save me harrow#let me recreate the moment you degraded me with my final breath. thatll make me happy thatll be a good way to go#viren really is a tragic character not because of his complicated morality or anything. but because he died without ever kissing a man :(#tdp#tdp s6 spoilers#tdp s6#thunder rambles
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given that seems to be the new popular take in the fandom at large since totk got out: let the record show that I'll gladly let myself get repeatedly manipulated by the wind waker speech and be foolishly moved by its implications over rejecting space for humanity and vulnerability in the monstrous and the dispossessed, and then feeling weirdly smug about severing that fleeting attempt at connection and deem it obviously insincere
#tloz#wind waker#ww#ganondorf#zelda fandom critical#it's just not even nice for the writers?#like they obviously tried something here#it's thematically resonant with the rest of the text#you don't have to connect with it personally of course#the complexity of a genuine cause being taken over by self importance and cruelty and what is owed to whom in the bloody aftermath#but to reject that it tried to touch upon something ambiguous and complicated is a shame in my opinion#voluntarily depriving yourself of depth sure is a move I don't understand#(the youtuboys of the world are just *so smug* about this and I find it... kinda tragic modern nintendo seems to agree with them)#(not to mention... seeing a guy coded as foreign going “hey I was sick of having nothing and wanted more for myself” and going)#(“!!!! that's manipulative and illegitimate and deserves no sympathy whatsoever” is a questionnable gut reflex to cultivate in my opinion)#(yearning for a privilege ganon could only ever access through submission can *absolutely* coexist with tyranny and selfishness)#(and isn't that layered and complicated and unfair to everybody involved?)#(doesn't that make for MUCH richer conflict than “he lied because he was greedy for power”?)
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It's rough out here right now, hope you're doing ok
Awwww, this is really sweet, and thank you, I'm doing okay, I hope you are as well!
#I have a lot of complicated feelings but most of them are fandom-reaction-related vs. liam himself#i'm in the camp of it's tragic to see someone die so young even if it wasn't surprising given what he was going thru (and for so long)#my heart goes out especially to his son and to maya and to the rest of his nearest and dearest as well#and to those who felt touched enough to come back to a space they'd long abandoned to feel that reconnection#but ALSO also there's some hypocrisy on multiple fronts that fills me with (more than likely misplaced) fury#i'm doing my damnedest to block that shit out because the rage is for reasons both big and small and i can read a room#against my better judgement i have lurked#and dear god#what i could put on my salty sideblog#it's not the time nor the place--the man in question had many faults but that level of pettiness wasn't one of them
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Has there ever been an iteration of Beauty and the Beast you haven't liked? 💌
It can be a really broad archetype if you want it to be, so for sure there's loads of examples out there that didn't/wouldn't click with me. I'd probably argue some of them belong in aesthetically similar or related categories, but there's definitely ways to do it which aren't to my taste.
In the specific of versions of the French fairytale, I've read some novelisations I thought were pretty poor. Mostly just in the sense that they added nothing, failed to embody the themes of the story, or had boring, lifeless versions of the characters with no chemistry. A lot of people don't understand Beauty and write terrible executions of the character thinking they're 'improving' her. A lot of these longer tellings stumble in trying to add psychological realism to the characters and end up undermining the message.
I've read a whole bunch of books which were supposed to be a B&tB dynamic or that were explicit retellings and most of them were shitty, ngl.
Even the most bulletproof trope needs some meat on its bones if it's going to sustain a novella or novel length retelling.
But if you mean in the sense of a prominent pop culture example of a B&tB dynamic within a larger fandom- I can't really think of one? I don't like Lily/Darkness from Legend, but I would strongly argue that it's not B&tB in any sense, it's a temptation to corruption/selfish seduction and that's, like, the entire reason I don't like it lmao.
#I am not a villain fucker#Jareth is the only villain I fuck#and it's because Bowie added this idea that he's trapped in his role both as the King in general and in the story by Sarah's expectations#which made him a tragic figure#and deeply complicated the entire story#so that his seduction isn't an attempt at corruption but a game which masks his sincere desire for her companionship
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#malevolent spoilers#malevolent podcast#malevolent#the larson incident you can tell changed arthur's relationship with john on such a fundamental level#arthur is a lot more vulnerable with john now#divulging his complicated relationship with daniel and honestly saying he misses parker#so much so that he uses his name just to hear someone else say it again#all on the belief that john saved him because he loves him#and this is going to be all the more tragic when he finally finds out that#John Is Lying™️#the next divorce is gonna hurt baby#can't wait#🪦
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Imma just list all of my aro and or ace headcanons for Genshin Impact
Diluc: aro/ace
Kaeya: asexual but in denial
Venti: demiromantic-asexual
Fischl: panplatonic
Razor: biplatonic
Bennett: biromantic-asexual
Xiangling: asexual
Chongyun: demiromantic-demisexual
Shenhe: aro/ace
Kokomi: asexual
Ei: panromantic-asexual
Wanderer: panromantic-asexual (not in denial over asexualiy but is in denial over being romantically interested in people)
Collei: aromantic
Alhaitham: demiromantic-demisexual
Layla: demiromantic
Neuvilette: demiromantic-demisexual
Lyney: demiromantic-asexual
Lynette: aro/ace
#genshin impact#i’m not tagging everyone#i’m lazy#forgot to mention#kokomi and xiangling don’t have a ___romantic because I don’t have a head canon for that#also Kaeya is panromantic but has trust issues#aka finds sex as cheap way for connection because he can’t bring himself to let people in romantically#that’s why he’s in denial#I also have a list of people who are not aro and or ace they just have trust/intamacy issues#that being wriothesley ayato and yelan#also kaveh has self worth issues which makes his relationship with sex complicated#lyney and lynette aren’t on the aro/ace spectrum from trauma or anything#they’d still be like that even if they didn’t have tragic backstories#furina isn’t aro/ace but is disconnected from her feelings due to spending so much time pretending to be an archon#she never had time to go through the whole how do I tell if I’m in love with someone thing#decided to elaborate on some characters in the tags#and also add some adjacent characters and their deal
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Kochanski could not accept a different version of Lister to the one she had known in her universe.
Lister, however, easily accepts the different versions of Rimmer he meets.
#red dwarf#imo it says more about lister as a person rather than a comment on the qualities of the relationships or anything like that#because for kris it was a big complicated and traumatic deal losing her lister and being stuck with a different one#and the rimmer that lister knows the best isn't the original one anyway he's a hologram. an approximation.#and then the hologram goes away and he's with the nanobot resurrected version.#and at first he's like oh you're the old one. the one you used to be. so he SEES a difference. these are clearly different people.#but then it's like nothing's changed. he treats him the same#and then the hologram comes back again and he's got to be different somehow too but they just go back to being bunkmates like it's nothing#and when you look at all the listers in skipper that rimmer meets when they learn he's a rimmer from a different universe#they're all like oh alright hi rimmer!#like???? it's so easy for him#not to mention how well he gets on with ace#I think no matter what. no matter what version of rimmer he's with. he's just glad it's rimmer#also I'm something of a lister/kochanski shipper. I love a tragic romance. so do not take this as a dig against kris bc I won't like that
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im thinking abt liam and bryce SO much rn now. theyre dynamic is so. sorry liam. sorry bryce
#neither of them have done anything wrong and are simply two diff ppl w two diff personalities and two diff thought processes#responding to the same single event . that they didnt deserve to have to respond to but now they just Have To#and both of them regard the other w a sort of desperation around the events of s1 but in a different way#that they respond one way that contradicts how the other does#liam doesnt care what happens to himself but bryce doesnt want to lose everything#its very realistic and very tragic because they were both important for each other but the opposite of what each other wanted at all#bryce wanted to finally heal. from everything. and whether or not ignoring one was a healthy way to do so was irrelevant#he just wanted to finally heal#and liam just. he doesnt care about His Own Life. he just wants to do this One Thing at All Costs. and no one else can help him.#he wants to be known by someone. anyone really. because he cant do any of it alone but its all he knows to do now#and nothing else matters to him#the two are just. theyre so complicated and im emotional abt it#i thinka bt it a lot but i think a good way to put it is#wrt the trolley problem? liam would pull the lever. bryce wouldnt#anyway. that piece os soooo. thinks abt them forever#i think every combination of characters in one is extremely tragic#bc its normal ppl responding to a horrible situation they didnt deserve to be in but now have to respond to#and sometimes they conflict. sometimes they hurt another person when the intent was to help. sometimes its solace in the worst of ones life#but all of them are so. i think abt it a lot liam and bryce are just now the specific ones on my mind cus of my most recent rb
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bro i’m 🥺😭💞💞💞
#godddddd i love when he calls me baby#it does things to my brain chemistry istg#especially because he doesn’t say it often. that and ‘i love you’ are only used on special occasions#(when he’s being especially sappy or sometimes when we’ve been arguing 💀)#and fuck ok i didn’t rlly think he’d say happy valentine’s back?#like i was trying to kinda play it off as a bit of a joke just in case#because technically we’re just fwb? but it’s… a lil bit more complicated than that i think#he once described his feelings as ‘not romantic but something close to that’ so like#good enough for me lmao#aNyWaY tldr i’m gay xD#not sure i’ll see him this week tho which is a bit tragic but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what can u do#jx.img
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the problem of wittebane fans is that much like philip did they focus on every action of philip´s childhood and young adulthood and forget the elephant in the room of a gap of 400 years of things he personally pushed upon almost, everyone, around him ,grimwalker demon and collector alike , like sometimes grief is utterly unsatisfying and leaves you without closure and everyone gets literally sick of you and then they stomp you to death because youre still wondering if theres a human out there whos gonna pity your ass , and then theres nobody. the world isnt gonna stop for you.
#also . sorry but a bias towards white tragedy is literally inevitable. it is ingrained in everyone to have a pang of pity at people like hi#him*#because hes fascinating and so many ppl see traits of themselves in him. perfectionist and overachieving#but youre missing out on literally everyone elses stories n how. similar they are to his in the first place#and you just dont talk abt it because you thought the wittebanes were going to be The Big Deal#but they werent what they chalked up to be. they leave you with some sort of taste in your mouth. like you been wronged#but you werent really. you really werent . you can project many messed up traumas n complexes on everyone else#youre just kind of scared of doing so because they are supposed to be the Better Guys#but they are as tragic. messy. strange and complicated.#edit: unrebloggable because im too paranoid i already had ppl jumping on me for neutral responses
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hot take but. oda is honestly one of the most interesting prominent side characters in y0 to me. like. don’t get me wrong obviously i don’t condone his actions, but speaking as a character design guy, i think he’s got a whole lot of complexity to think about in his story and identity that people tend to ignore/overlook because he’s not a black and white “good” person. like no shit he’s morally fucked, that doesn’t mean his intense pining and crazed level of dedication to tachibana and the lengths all his guilt and repressed love for the man he saw as the best thing to ever grace his life drove him to aren’t interesting to think about– if anything it makes him more interesting. he was. really something
#people like to joke about wanting problematic queer rep instead of just good upstanding citizens all the time but then you get someone like#oda and suddenly all nuance dissappears and liking him as a character (for being a well-made character I mean) is equated to#condoning sex trafficking. like. no that’s not how that works#though I do think- regardless of him being a shitty dude- he does count as a victim of burying your gays#but that’s less about his death being narratively a bad choice and more that there could’ve been more queer rep amongst prominent characters#to balance it out (who don’t die)#though idk I’m always a little put off by the all too common Gay Chracter Dies For Their Tragic Love Interest trope#because it’s. too common. and depressing. but again I think it could’ve been balanced out if someone else was prominent and#canonically queer (also thinking like. nishitani seemed pretty close to canonically bi but. he. also died. so)#anyway. yeah on the other hand im glad they didn’t sugarcoat or morally sanitize him as a character for the sake of his queerness though#I would’ve really liked to have seen more on tachibana’s side about what he thought of oda and their relationship in general- cause they#knew each other for quite a while and were undeniably close. even lived together and whatnot. and all tachibana really got to say when he#found out oda was probably dead was just. well just that. that he’s probably dead. I feel like he should’ve gotten to be more shook by that#and/or more deeply conflicted and pained by the combination of his potential death for makotos safety and his responsibility for#trafficking her in the first place. that’s. such a deep well of complicated emotions to sort out and they really did absolutely nothing#with it. like. it makes me wanna write something that’s how much is There that was unused. so much with that relationship in general really.#hhhh….. anyway I should shut up now#jun oda#oda#yakuza#yakuza 0#rgg#rgg0#rambling#oh yeah also. hating him is understandable but you have to then apply the same judgement to all characters who have done some real shitty#stuff in their pasts to get by- which is quite a few characters- including lee who’s far more liked and was a literal hitman#(saying that as someone who also likes him as a character quite a bit and Likes that he’s in a moral grey zone) so. yeah.#yakuza 0 spoilers
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YES yeah you’re right sympathize was the wrong word you get me kit
ofc <3
#asks#I swear tho anyone who wrote him off just because of what we know he does later cannot have an opinion on this book because like#he’s supposed to be complicated ALSO#TOM SAID IT#YOURE SUPPOSED TO FEEL HEARYBROKEN WHEN HE CHANGES EVEN THOIGH YOU JNOW WHAT HE BECOMES#THATS IT#I think it’s also to show how he’s human#Suzanne seems to love human nature within the novels and just she always writes characters that#are SO human#even in the og series with snow I feel like it’s the same#she’s not trying to get you to sympathize but she’s trying to show the#circumstances and the psyche of what happens with this type of person and how tragic it is that humans can fall into this and become full on#fucking dictators
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So Alfred was made responsible for Bruce after his parents' death but what about Leslie Thompkins? I think it says somewhere that she was Bruce's guardian too, but then she just never gets mentioned in correlation to Bruce's parental figures. Maybe Jim Gordon too, though I don't know if that's fanon or not.
Ok so Jim Gordon is pretty much a fanon thing - he’s either new to Gotham when Batman starts out (like in Batman Year One) or he’s new to Gotham when the Wayne’s die and thats one of his first big cases (Gotham TV). I personally like it when he’s the on the Wayne Murder case, because it creates a sort of circle - the cop who failed Bruce working with Batman.
He also has very little connection to Bruce outside of that, more of a family friend, someone Alfred considered a good influence more then anything.
Legally and morally Jims responsibility to Bruce starts and ends with solving the Wayne murder (and being a mandated reporter). He never quite manages that one either does he.
In Leslie Thompkins’s original appearance she played Jim Gordons role of being the only person at the scene to try and comfort Bruce, and was later made into a family friend (colleague of Thomas) who decided to take a parental role in Bruces life after his parents death. That was a personal choice though, and legally she had no responsibility to him, outside of being a doctor and also a mandated reporter.
(I keep specifying ‘legally’ not because i think that is what makes someone significant to a kid, but because that would dictate how much access/power/consideration these people would have in a kids life. Legally neither Leslie or Jim were/are Bruces guardians, that doesnt mean they wouldn’t stick around when they could)
I also keep specifying that they’re mandated reporters because in quiet a few canons, Alfred is not Bruce’s first legal guardian (regardless of what his parents may have/may not have wished/willed). The legal maneuvering around becoming a vulnerable baby billionaires guardian would have been a nightmare, and both Gordon and Thompkins would/could have stuck around for that. Them being a cop and a doctor would have been very useful for Bruce’s safety.
Alfred was also “made responsible”, but the glossing over of what that means and how that would have happened is such a wasted opportunity. I promise the absolute shit show around that custody battle could fuel a million angst fics.
#the waynes died which is very tragic#but the next two years of bruces life were hell because of it#the butler??? the BUTLER???? you think waspy waynes nobility of the east coast took that one sitting down???#bruce was probably yanked around more then a kite in a wind storm those first few months#you have the brat you have the billions bay-bee#also leslie is so complicated to me because i think bruce would cut her off completely post war games#and i think he’s right#there is no repairing that!#its why stephs death gets ignored so often brw#it’s because that whole storyline went kaboom on like seven different relationships#in ways that are very hard to just gloss over#i mean they do gloss over them#but like. why#oh theres a great fic currently dealing with it sort of#‘family’ crisis by librarylexicon on ao3#anyways#yes bruce had adults around him no they werent really guardians in the same way Alf was
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