#batfamilt

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I'd like to preface this by saying that this is from my - brown, first-gen, oldest kid/basically third pseudo-parent - perspective and that because of it, it may affect how I view the parent-child relationships as opposed to other people, even those like myself.

I'd argue that Bruce is a good parent objectively, definitely has a lot of faults and made more than enough mistakes, and that me saying so shouldn't be as controversial as it is. (It should be noted that many of the most obvious and glaring examples of Bruce's mistakes or moments of being just a bad parent are ooc or can be explained, not excused, through context. Don't get it twisted though, some of the shit he's done is inexcusable point blank, cause I know you girls like to tussle and bring in shit that's not even relevant. 😒)

I say it shouldn't be controversial because what I'm saying is really not anything that outlandish. Like I'm not saying he's a great and/or flawless parent. I'm basically calling him mid.* 😭

And a lot of people can't see that because their own parental relationships affect how they view Bruce's, because they're projecting onto certain characters, even if subconsciously. And that's fine, I just wished people would be more aware of when their own relationships affect the how they write or interpret Bruce's and his kids relationship.

(Idealistically, I'd like for people to clarify that they make bad dad Bruce content because of their own experiences in some capacity -like by saying itself self indulgent- but people shouldn't even feel like they should air out their issues for the sake of my comfortability.)

Enough of me being an idiot for the sake of comfort, the point is Bruce is not a bad parent, intentionally.

Don't get me wrong he fucks up a lot but a good amount of the shit he fucks up is cause of how socially inept he is, some of it could literally be fixed with better timing, and he really loves his kids even if he doesn't express himself as freely (loose use of the word freely) as he did before Jason's death.

(I do wish the Batman writers would get off their self indulgent power fantasy by not only having Bruce, and themselves, acknowledge what he did wrong, even if down the line, by having him apologize in a Brucey sense. That being physical touch or like many immigrant parents, like my own, through things like food.)

* You guys do remember that good is literally not a big stretch. Its literally saying he's average, not bad but not great, just kinda in the middle. 💀

Also don't bring up that "BUt hE lEtS tHE KiDS FiGHtE cRimE" cause:

1. That man not only implanted the idea but dedicated himself to the idea of stopping all crime in Gotham -so that others wouldn't have to go through the loose of loosing a or loved ones, like he did- since he was 10 and in some shit started training and preparing for something along the idea of crime fighting at that age as well. (In more modern stuff he started as a teen but that still means he was a kid when he started this concept.)

2. He was doing literal vigilante shit as a child/teen too. (Again depends cause DC hates consistency.)💀

3. It's a fucking comic, while it's based in the real world it make no secret of ignoring a lot of real world logic/aspects for the sake of story telling. Like, the reason why kids are vigilante or out crime fighting is for the reader (target audience of kids) to enjoy. It's the definition of literally not that deep.

"BUt hE'S tHe ADuLT, hE sHOUld NoW bETTer-"

1. That man both grew up too quickly but never grew up as well, he's very idealistic and thinks like a kid sometimes. More often than not you see his own family and friends describe him as a frightened child that never let go.

2. He was in his early twenties when he took in Dick (having a 10-14 yr age gap depending on continuity, making it hard for him to not think of him as both as son and/or brother when the role fit. 😭) and he really thought he was helping Dick by training him instead of the kid going out on his own, if he refused, to take down Zucco because he didn't want him to end up like him.

3. Why go only after Bruce? 🤨 I literally don't see half the flack Bruce gets for any of the shit I've previously talked about with other heros, even when what they've done has been worse. 😒

(Listen, I get it, the fanboys and male who project themselves onto Bruce as their power fantasy are fucking annoying, it's a reason why I hate a particular sector of Comic writers/runs and a lot of the live action shit. -Looking at you Frank Miller, wtf are you taking cause I think the government needs to sample it or smth. What is with the fucking meows, Tom King? -)

Extras:

1. Also, just as a reminder cause some of you mfs be blind, Bruce pushes for his villains towards rehabilitation. (He doesn't just want to beat him up, but comic book nerds would be damn if they didn't see some violence. )

Like there's a reason why he helps out the common people as Bruce and Batman a lot, because he genuinely wants Gotham to be better to be a good and most importantly safe. And he goes about it by funding the city and a good portion of the people within. (You can literally find multiple examples of him going up to people as Batman and giving them a card or telling them to ask Wayne Enterprise's for a job because they are guarantee to get one.)

2. Cause I know some people are gonna bring up Rhao.

Fyi, don't take anything Rhao Jason says that seriously cause a lot of the thing is either ooc or inconsistent, and it's only Jason saying it without backing from anyone else in the family. (It also doesn't match with what we see of his training or Robin days so why use it for an argument. ☠️)

3. We need to have some Non-misogynistic writers rewrite Stephanie's time as Robin cause the writers really seem like they hated her and you can see it with how they wrote Bruce. (Note Bruce was also really harsh with her cause he wanted her to not get involved in that life but that doesn't excuse it.)

4. An argument can be made that Jason is Bruce's favorite child because none of the other kids would get away with half the shit Jason has done. (You could also argue it's because Jason is the first kid Bruce took in with the intention of being a parent/parental figure for.)

Heads up: This isn't my main so my replies would hypothetically be through reblogs. So yeah. 😭

[artbyavasan]

dumb and dumber

[12freddofrogs]

An episode of my ideal Batman show...

This is an extract from chapter/season one, aka, the ‘Dick is Robin’ era. Specifically, the ‘Dick is seventeen and starting to chafe under Bruce’s leadership, beginning to plan a move to Bludhaven’ era. 

This post here is a complete ‘episode’, but I have written a full season. The bullet-points aren’t the best style for tumblr, so the full chapter is available on AO3 here.  Please check it out - other episodes include: the time Batgirl accidentally told the internet Batman’s breath smells like pepperoni, has to frantically make sure he never finds out; a full-length flashback episode that draws parallels between how Dick met Bruce and how their arguments have changed their dynamics; Dick trying to work out the best way to invite Babs to prom; and a glimpse into what the general perspective of Bats are when Gotham City puts on a play about them. Lots of Batfamily fluff, and in the coming weeks another five seasons/chapters will be added to play around with character dynamics for everyone.

Season One, Episode 13 - Birdcage

One episode revolves around Dick Grayson, the billionaire ward of Bruce Wayne, getting kidnapped.

o Bruce is going frantic.

He can’t even leave because he has a dozen police with him at all times. It’s clearly killing him that Batman can’t go.

Batgirl on the case, though.

Bruce is trying to whisper tips about the detective work into his phone without letting Detective Montoya see him. Batgirl grumbles that she knows what she’s doing.

Dick, meanwhile, is very bored.

He’s tied up on a chair, trying to entertain himself by untangling the knots. Whenever the kidnappers glance at him, he goes still again, not letting them realise his hands are free.

 He makes it into a game, waving and pulling faces whenever they look away.

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They don’t catch him at this, but when moving him to a new location, they put a blindfold on.

 Naturally, Dick takes this off as part of his game. Just slightly, only barely enough that he can peek.

It has the added bonus of letting him see the kidnapper’s faces once they remove their ski-masks.

 Less of a bonus when one of them comes over and sees the hint of Dick’s iris peeking through a gap.

 The one that finds it curses violently, and tries to pull it back to where it should be.

 “Just take the whole thing off; it’s not worth it if he’s already seen our faces.”

The kidnappers call Bruce.

 He’s sitting in the police precinct, waiting impatiently and frustrated that he can’t do anything.

 When he realises who it is he waves over Gordon, putting it on speaker phone. 

 “I’m here. Where’s Dick — is he okay?” Bruce asks, an odd mix of frantic and controlled.

“He’s fine. Have you got our money?”

Gordon cuts in. “We want proof of life, first.”

“Alright, fine.”

 Back in the warehouse, the phone is jammed to Dick’s ear. “Hi, Bruce.”

“Dick! Are you okay? Have they hurt you?”

 “I’m fine.” Dick glares at the kidnappers.

“For the time being,” the lead kidnapper corrects, taking the phone back. “Have you got our money, Mr Wayne?”

“Yes, yes,” Bruce’s voice comes over the phone. “I’ll send it through now, just don’t hurt Dick.”

 The kidnappers wait until their laptop announces that money has been paid into the account. The one sitting on the laptop nods at the one with the phone, while the third waits in the corner.

 “Well, it looks like that’s all come through,” the lead kidnapper says. “Which means I’m actually really sorry about this, Mr. Wayne.”

 Dick immediately stiffens. The boredom vanishes from his face.

 “See, if all had gone according to the plan, we would have handed him over now. But unfortunately, someone put the blindfold on him wrong, and he saw our faces.”

 Dick’s eyes widen as the man takes out a gun and hefts it at him. “Wait—”

“Please understand, this is just protocol.”

 The scene switches back to the precinct as a gunshot echoes.

 BANG!

 “No!” Bruce jumps to his feet, so hard that he nearly overturns the table.

 Gordon goes white, and the rest of the police listening in look alarmed.

 The phone keeps playing, sound of something crashing, a fight going on off-screen.

 Shot changes back to the warehouse.

 A bullet is embedded in the wall.

Dick is standing in the middle of three unconscious men, breathing heavily. “Please understand, this was just protocol,” he mutters venomously.

He picks up the gun, unloading it before placing it safely on the table. Then he turns around to focus on the squawking phone. 

“Richard, are you there?”

“Dick, Dick, talk to me!”

 “What is happening?”

 He almost takes it, before he pulls back, glances at the unconscious men around him.

Bruce at the precinct is still looking sick before a new voice hits the speakerphone.

 “Batman, the phone’s still going.” The voice sounds muffled, as if whoever’s speaking is halfway across the room. “Could you maybe get it… nope, heaven forbid you ever talk to anyone. Fine, I’ll do it.” The voice clears up as the phone is picked up. “Heya, this is Robin. Yes, that Robin. Don’t worry, Grayson’s safe.”

 Bruce lets out a long slow breath, and needs to clutch at the desk to remain standing. Colour begins to return to his face.

 Gordon takes the phone. “Hi, Robin. Gordon here. Can we talk to Richard?”

 Camera changes back to Dick, holding the phone.

 “Heya, Commish!” ‘Robin’ says it cheerier than would be natural, his voice slightly higher than usual. “Sure thing, just give me a second. The kid’s, um, throwing up. But you know the first attempted murder’s always the hardest.”

“No rush,” Gordon says in the precinct, checking with his eyes to see if Bruce is okay with that. Bruce nods. “Can you tell me what happened?”

 “Nothing special, really,” Robin says, grimacing despite his cheery tone. “Batman and I tracked down these guys, and right on time. Stepped in before it could get ugly. We’ll leave them tied up for you at the scene.”

 He reaches for his belt, realises he’s not wearing it, and goes for the rope that had attached him to the chair.

 “Okay. Where are you?” Gordon’s voice is mildly scratchy — the signal isn’t great.

 The question makes Dick freeze. He glances at the window, and can only see that they’re several storeys above the ground.

 The shot changes back to the station as ‘Robin’ stumbles for an answer. “We are… hold on, one second I’m talking … just a minute… okay, fine, here.” There’s a stumble of movement as if the phone was being passed from hand to hand, and then a new voice comes on.

 “Bruce?” The ‘Dick Grayson’ voice is quieter than ‘Robin’, soft and very shaken and not as high pitched. “Are you there?”

“I’m here, Dickie,” Bruce says immediately. “Are you okay?”

 “I’m — I’m fine. Robin and Batman got here just in time.” Dick’s voice hesitates. In the warehouse, he’s struggling to tie up one of the men who’s semi-conscious. “Robin was so cool when he broke in, he just took the guy out like that!”

 In the precinct, Bruce can’t help but roll his eyes. But he’s smiling nonetheless.

 Dick moves onto tying up next kidnapper, holding the phone at arm’s length. “You weren’t too bad yourself with that flip out of the way, kid,” he says as Robin. “Where did you learn to do that?”

 Switches back to ‘Dick’. “The circus.’

 ‘Robin’: “Well, nothing beats Bat training, but that was pretty cool.”

 Batgirl bursts in through the window.

 She lands on the ground in a perfect spring, and then pauses to notice the unconscious men.

 “Di—”

 Dick shakes his head frantically, striking one hand across his throat. “Hey, Batgirl!” he says gleefully, his voice contrasting with his expression. “Sorry, I can’t talk right now. I’m on the phone with the Commish, talking about how me and Batman saved Grayson.”

 “Right.” Batgirl nods once, relaxing against the wall. “Sorry I’m late.”

 “No sweat. Batman and Robin are capable of doing this ourselves.” He winces when Batgirl raises an eyebrow. “Sorry Commish, gotta go, we’ll drop the Grayson kid off for you on the ground.”

 He hangs up.

 “ ‘Batman and Robin are capable of doing this ourselves’?”

 “I know, I know, don’t mock me.” Dick rubs his hand over his forehead. “It was the first thing I thought of.”

 They decide Batgirl should deliver Dick back to safety.

 Batgirl takes the phone back, texts an address to the precinct, and hangs up.

 They finish locking up the criminals, and then wait at the window until they see a patrol car approaching.

  “Alright. Let’s go.” Batgirl opens the window and holds out her arms to Dick.

“What – what are you doing?”

 “Well, you can’t exactly swing down yourself, Boy Wonder.”

“Oh. Right.”

 Dick is awkward about pressing himself so close into Batgirl, wrapping his arms around her neck securely. “Is this okay? Am I hurting you?”

 Batgirl doesn’t even answer, just wraps one arm around his back and then other to her grappling hook.

They swing out the window. Dick gasps and clutches tighter without entirely meaning to.

 They land behind the police car.

“Wow, that is terrifying when it’s not your line,” Dick whispers in her ear.

 “Go on.” Batgirl pushes him forward to the police rushing towards them.

 Dick obligingly untangles himself from her and sprints towards them, collapsing theatrically to whimper when he reaches the patrol.

 Bruce arrives later in Gordon’s car.

 Dick is sitting in the patrol vehicle, a shock blanket draped around his shoulders when he sees his guardian.

 He jumps up and runs forward, hugging Bruce.

 Bruce hugs him back.

 Later, they’re driving back home.

 It’s the first time the two have been alone since Dick got kidnapped.

“In all honesty. Are you okay?”

 “Yeah, sure. I’m fine,” Dick says dismissively. There’s no sign of the fact he’d been crying moments before he got into the seat.

 “Good. I’m glad.” Bruce hesitates. “I was… worried, when I heard that gun go off.”

 “Didn’t think I could handle it?” Dick challenges.

“That’s not what I meant and you know it.”

Dick’s jaw tenses, but he relaxes into the chair, finally safe. “Yeah. I know.”

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It's wonderful

Can you hear me sobbing

[leawayneskarsgard]

BATFAMILT PERROS!

Detective Comics #975

Family Meeting

[tryandbecomeflowers]

Steph is a great breath of fresh air in the batfamilt, I wish her run lasted longer as batgirl.

Hey tumblr.

Why is your favorite member of the Bat-Family your favorite? What about them appeals to you so much? What makes them tick? What’s their best stories? How do they interact with the other characters? What makes them so great? Let me know!