#bartosz from eva's world was so nice for not reason at all

[yellow-dejavu]

bartosz tiedemann appreciation post because he's so underrated

[someillplanetreigns]

Ending thoughts for @sheliesshattered​ and anyone else interested!

Look, it devastated me. And I think that was sort of the point and I do credit them for that - it was almost an impossible task to end a series like this well, and I think coherent and bittersweet were reasonable things to aim for that they attained. That said, here are some more detailed thoughts:

I want Regina to be happy almost as much as Claudia does, and I’m kind of devastated that within the origin world, where she could still have ended up with Aleksander/Boris and still had Bartosz, because neither of them were tied into the Knot in a way that would prevent their existence, she doesn’t get that. I kind of refuse to believe that doesn’t happen, even though everything suggests things play out differently. As we all know I cannot get over the absurdness of Regina and Aleksander’s whole relationship, absolutely love it, and Bartosz is my precious precious baby boy and I just want him to be happy, let him have hugs in the origin world!!

Also very ‘errm...’ about Claudia ending up with Bernd? Like very happy to accept that he is Regina’s dad, but I just can’t see Claudia and Bernd together, I would have kind of preferred it if she’d single mummed it out again, that seemed more in character imo?

I do get choked up every time I think about Peter and Bernadette at the dinner party, and I am so glad they both seem to have gotten to have a really nice life because I want that so much for both of them (also I felt like it clarified silently that Peter wasn’t cheating on Charlotte because he’s not into women, because Berndatte is a woman [though for the love of god can we please stop casting cis men to play trans women!!!], he actually just... wasn’t super happy in the marriage to Charlotte, even though he did love her and very much loved their kids, and would have quite liked to be with Bernadette if they could have just communicated that and made it work).

On a macro level though... It hurts so much to have all of these characters who we cared about through three seasons erased, never to have existed. I get sad every time I think about it.

Less about the show and more about my reaction to it, I interestingly often then think about the awful things that happen in Adam and Eva’s timelines, and think, ‘well, at least that never happened, at least no one had to endure that’... But I’m slightly existentially uncomfortable with the conclusion that the only way to get away from that is for everyone to have never gotten to live at all. THAT SAID, it’s a time-travel narrative! I don’t think applying that kind of... moralistic framework, if it can be called that (maybe I’m being overly harsh on myself Idk), really works in that narrative structure, because it’s always inherent to the structure. If that makes any kind of sense?

I don’t know exactly what I would want a fix-it on my terms to look like. That’s not what I’m writing right now (well, a sort of... partial fix-it? A ‘I can only fix this one little thing but by god I’m doing it!’), though I might be interested if I can get some marathon power into the sprint I’m having right now. I’d just like all those characters who we met and loved in the first few episodes to have happy lives!

So I guess my conclusion is... I was heartbroken, but I credit it as a creative choice? That was a looong response sorry, thank you for reading!!

It's a bit wild seeing you get into Dark. I watched it a few years ago and at this point couldn't give more than the most general high-level description of it, but the gifsets you're reblogging are shaking loose my memories of it. It's been a fun reminder of the show!

Have you finished it yet, btw? I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on the ending. And if you're looking for a show to fill the void once you've watched all of Dark, I highly recommend the SyFy series version of 12 Monkeys (tho I think it's on Hulu now). It's got a few thematic similarities and really tight storytelling, I love it for a lot of the same reasons I enjoyed Dark. The movie Coherence might be another one to look up once you finish Dark. :D

Haha I'm glad you've enjoyed re-living it vicariously through my new obsession! I got into it because I watched 1899, loved it, was devastated by the cancellation, and was thinking about checking out Dark for a Baran bo Odar and Jantje Friese actually concluded arc to hopefully soothe my soul. And then my housemate (who is German) told me she prefers Dark and I would love it and should watch it, and suddenly everyone was telling me that so here I am.

I started it before I had to isolate, but finished it whilst having Covid, so I think that's affected how much this has become a Fully Consumed By Blorbo Thoughts thing. I kind of know that once I no longer have to quarantine, it's going to move into a more balanced 'this show is spectacularly made and I love it and will always want to talk about it and reblog the content', but I probably won't be Consumed in the way I am now (if not least because I'll have a lot of other stuff to do!) so I'm frantically trying to write this fic whilst The Urge Is Upon Me haha.

I remember watching the film of 12 Monkeys yeeeeaaars ago, should definitely check out the TV show! And I'd not heard of Coherence, thanks!

All this to say, yes I have finished Dark, and I will do a separate reblog with my thoughts in a read more so I don't bother anyone else with spoilers (all of you need to watch Dark!!)

[yellow-dejavu]

Dark characters were wrong about a lot of things, but one thing they were right about was knowing that Charlotte was awesome. It is so funny and interesting how there was something about her that made the others characters want to tell her the crazy things they were involved in. It was almost like every time they had a problem in the 2019/2020 timeline, they called Charlotte. The characters in that era were like, who can I call who's smart and cool and won't think I'm crazy for telling them about some weird conspiracy? They all nodded and said: Charlotte! We have to call Charlotte.

In Season 1:

Peter was acting all weird because of his involvement when Mad's body reappeared. He was trying to tell Charlotte all season, until he did it in the finale. Peter was cheating and not really being nice to her, but even he knew that the only one who could help him understand any of it was his smart and beautiful wife.

When Ulrich followed Helge into the caves, he left a voicemail for Charlotte. He did this in both worlds.

Even Jonas, when he goes to 1986 to get Mikkel. Jonas just tells young Charlotte his plans for no reason. Jonas could have told Charlotte anything, but he tells her exactly the truth that he is trying to bring someone back from the dead.

In season 2:

Stranger Jonas goes to see his mother in the 2019/2020 timeline. Hannah thinks they need to tell someone. Who does she call? Charlotte. Literally the wildest thing has happened to Hannah. Her missing teenage son has returned to her as a middle-aged man, and she decides that the person who can somehow help her is Charlotte.

Magnus, Franziska and Elisabeth gained the knowledge of time travel because of Bartosz. When they decided to tell someone about it, they went to Charlotte and Peter.

At the end of season 2, Wöller tells Charlotte about what he and Aleksander did with the yellow barrels. Wöller's confession + the other information she has gathered lead Charlotte to the conclusion that Clausen will trigger the apocalypse by opening the barrels. Charlotte tells Wöller some crazy stuff about time travel. He has no idea what she is talking about, but follows her anyway.

In Season 3, Hannah blackmailed Aleksander, which is a very likely thing for her to do. She also did it in season 1 in Adam's world. The outcome in Eva's world is very different. In Adam's world, Hannah tells Aleksander to destroy Ulrich's life. He makes some phone calls and tries to do it, but Ulrich is already gone from this timeline. In Eva's world, Hannah tells Aleksander to ruin Charlotte's life instead. This time, Aleksander decides to come clean and show Charlotte the shady stuff the nuclear power plant has been hiding, triggering the apocalypse to happen earlier in Eva's world. Imagine being so cool that the apocalypse happens earlier because someone just doesn't want to try to ruin your life. I just love how Charlotte was thinking outside of the box and how she was genuinely nice to everyone.