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#autistic Ponyboy I love you
ratfreecog · 2 months
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Trans fem Soda being terrified to come out to her brothers even though she knows she's loved but the second she tells them she's pulled into a rare Darry bear hug and he's like "i always wanted a little sister" Pony is all exited too because he can give her braids!
I agree with this completely however I’m also obsessed with the concept of Soda slowly presenting more fem and then one day over dinner Pony or Darry just going “Soda are you a girl?” “Yep” and that’s that.
However it happens though absolutely Darry gets super emotional and hugs Soda and tells her he’ll always love her type stuff (partially because their parents always wanted a girl and Darry hates that they’re not here to see that they have one) meanwhile Pony’s completely dead face “ok. I like men”
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theoutsiderscomfort · 3 months
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I may have posted 4 headcanons yesterday and one this morning but the grind never stops.
Ponyboy Curtis Headcanons
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He loves reading but he can’t buy his own books often so he borrows them a lot
Two-Bit for sure has stolen one or two for him, probably as a birthday gift
Darry didn’t approve of it but it made Ponyboy happy so he kept it to himself
He is the one kid in his class who actually reads the books instead of skimming the book to find the answers
He never gets rid of gone with the wind and it moves with him wherever he goes. College, his first apartment, his first house. That copy is probably still laying around to this day
He goes to college for literature, I mean are we even surprised here
He becomes a English teacher at school not too far from Tulsa so he can visit his brothers on the weekend
He writes his own book one day about what happened that night. The book being the outsiders (duh)
He writes a few book but the outsiders will always be his favourite because it was a way that people would always remember Johnny and Dally
I’m going to move on to the neurodivergent headcanon otherwise this will turn into angst headcanons
Ponyboy is autistic like Darry but people picked up on it more easily
Soda is the one who picked up on it first and told his parents. Soda may of been 7 but he picked up on it
Reading and movies are his special interests (it’s me. I’m Ponyboy)
Even Darry says in the movie that all Ponyboy concentrates on is movie and books
He has a lot of sensory issues with food which is one of the main traits he shows
Luckily for Darry, most of his safe foods are cheap stuff anyway
Unluckily for Darry, after the fire is when his issues with food becomes worse because everything taste like baloney
It took over a month for Ponyboy to start eating like he used to and the day it happens his brothers are full of relief
Even Two-Bit and Steve are relieved when they come into Pony eating a massive slice of chocolate cake. Steve wouldn’t even care that he stole the last slice
He hates wearing long sleeves most of the time which is why he hardly wears a jacket despite being cold
One last angsty headcanon to finish this off
He visits Johnny and Dally whenever he can. He just sits there quietly or talks about what has happened since he last visited
“Darry met this nice girl. She fits right in with the gang. You guys would of loved her”
I swear with Ponyboy and Darry the autism headcanons just flow out of me
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rileyh20 · 3 months
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Bonjour.
Pls, if you so kindly will, share some of your HCs?
Hello! Since ya didn't specify I will add all the HCs I have at the moment.
(I have not worked on them in a bit cuz of stuff, and I don't have that many yet)
Ponyboy Curtis:
A pyromantic, he loves fire (Until the church shit)
Has a fucking terrifying glare, but only actually glares at people when they wake him up (His poor brothers)
Should not be left alone around a stack of books (He’ll read them all in like two hours)
A really fast reader, but he reads the book over and over again to the point he basically memorizes it
Major third wheel, doesn’t matter if the ship is Jally, or Stevepop, or something else, he’s just a third wheel at heart
Definitely reads the book before he watches the movie 
Sometimes when he wants to write he just can’t, so he does other things instead, but once he’s in the zone, he’ll write for hours without hearing anything around him (He’s just like me fr)
Sarcastic and sassy af sometimes (Because I want him to be, no other reason)
He likes grandma hobbies (You know what I’m talking about, the knitting, sewing kinds of stuff, crafting thingies)
He would be the kind of person who helps you get your locker unstuck when you are either too scared to ask a strong person, or you don’t want your locker beaten into scraps when you could just ask Ponyboy
Cooks sometimes, he ain’t the best, but he isn’t terrible at it (He especially does it if Darry looks like he had a long day)
Sometimes he’s the only person able to stop Sodapop from putting food dye into the food (Especially if Darry is the one cooking)
Sorry y’all, but autistic Ponyboy is what I got for you guys 
Sodapop Curtis:
Gets lots of tips from women (Shares it with Steve sometimes)
Tries to understand why Ponyboy likes books so much, but honestly does not get him crying over them (He’s trying his best guys)
He was a MAJOR biter as a kid, like for no reason, just CHOMP
Has ADHD and absolutely NO ONE can tell me otherwise (Don’t even try)
Genuinely loved Sandy, and was so heartbroken when she broke up with him (Kinda canon?)
Darrel "Darry" Jr. Curtis:
Cries when needs to sign parent approval forms for Ponyboy, but if someone’s close by he tries to hold it in
Has a favorite book, it’s one his father got him before he died
He doesn’t like to read, but sometimes Ponyboy will read the book to him
Has shit eyesight, but refuses to get glasses
Darry doesn’t take care of himself when he gets sick
Darry is a fucking CLINGY person when he’s emotional (Specifically sad or stressed), like you ARE NOT able to get away from that man when he’s like that (Especially Ponyboy)
Doesn’t smoke at all so it doesn’t ruin his body
Stole a shirt from his dad’s closet before he died, it’s still in his clothes but he never wears it or puts it back 
Sometimes Darry sobs into his dad’s shirt after a hard day (The shirt from above)
Impulsive biter, just like if someone sticks their hand or arm in front of his face, he wont think and just chomps on them (Ponyboy and Sodapop try to warn the others, but they don’t listen)
Nothing for Steve Randle yet
Nothing for Keith "Two-Bit" Mathews yet
Dallas "Dally" Winston:
Scared of spiders
He’s also scared of dogs
Johnny Cade:
Definitely says a few dirty jokes 
I feel like he would be the type of person to have a summer job for some reason? (Ponyboy and Dally visit him at work sometimes and it’s chaos)
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hellonearthtoday · 6 months
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3, 5, 7, 14
Thank you 😌I needed a break from this damn drawing
3. Who is your favorite character outside the main 7?
This is kind of harddd man 😭 born to say Cherry forced to say Curly. Cherry's a character that we actually saw more of, but I have this idea of Curly in my head that's so perfect to me...he's like half my oc...I'm superrr attached to Cherry but I do have to be real w myself cuz whenever I see Curly's name mentioned in any fic or any post it's like a wild lion sighting i get sooo hype
5. What are your favorite ships?
this is NOT hard. My favorite ship is purly I'm an evil purly shipper. I don't typically do shipping because I'm that aroace who is romance repulsed not just for myself but in the media I consume too, but idk something about their dynamic I've half made up in my head abt them...I guess I just really like the dynamic of 2 bros who are friends who might also fall in love We dont know
MARBIT. I really like couples who just giggle together. Couples who justtt rock w eachotherrr something about them....Also they got that forbidden love thing going on and idk the power of laughter could save them. But other than that I'm a platonic power ranger
7. What are your fave non-romantic relationships? (This can be close friends, familial, enemies or even just acquaintances)
This thang is about to get so long. I love non romantic relationships sooo bad I'm romance's biggest hater.
TBH can i say purly here too....they got a friends to lovers thing going on I'll shut up abt them for once this time though.
Johnny and Pony are really the best friends ever, and my idea of them might be fandom crutched more than what's shown in canon, but It don't matter anyway that book came out a bajillion years ago.
Johnny and Dally. I know the jally nation is huge and unstoppable and I can kindaaa see where you're coming from even w how I am...but in my head they aren't brotherly or romantic they're a secret third thing. No labels no nothing. They have something that none of us can touch and it's not romantic to me but they're tgt in every universe
Dally and Ponyboy idk they're funny to me. Like 2 cats put into a fighting ring and one is evil and one just want to sleep and go home idk
CHERRY AND PONYBOY I START CHEWING ON THE WALLS WHEN I SEE THEM PIT AGAINST EACHOTHER IN FICS OR WHEN CHERRY IS BARELY THERE goddd i msis them so much there's something so special to me about an opposite sex friendship that prevails even though it's not seen as a normal thing people do at the time.
14. Tell us five of your headcanons you basically see as canon
POC shepards. It's just kind of real man. I like seeing all the different versions the fandom comes up with but they're a black latino family to me <3
Johnny and Curly hating each other so bad. I think it's the funniest thing ever. Especially if they just don't like eadchother solely off of vibes ...or Curly doesn;t like Johnny bcz Johnny doesn't like him and he's like wtf 😕
It's never said outright but Johnny has anxiety disorder to me.
Ponyboy has low empathy and he just does things out of the kindness of his heart and not bcz "treat people how u want to be treated" bcz whatever LOL! he's autistic to me whatt who said that
PB talks really casually but also somehow rlly awkwardly, and u think he's just chill like that but he's just autistic. He could hate your ass but he talks like some unsocialized forest nymph so you dont know bcz he sounds so docile
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fefesoutsiderstuff · 5 days
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More Autistic Cherry Stuff
Started masking around the age of five when she noticed her classmates didn't seem to like her as much as they did her other classmates, connected it to behaviors that were perceived as odd/abnormal.
"Kids my age don't like me because I'm weird" eventually led to: "How much interest, as an average, would you say your peers have in Medieval European geopolitics?" "I don't know what that is." "Oh." *frantically writes in little notebook: delete all evidence of interest in/knowledge of the Middle Ages, Europe, and geopolitics* "Why?" "I just heard those words on the TV last night." "And you decided to... do that?" "...Yes."
Perpetually struggles to copy others while not being super obvious and maintaining enough honesty that she seems interesting
Tries to be more outgoing -> joining random conversations she has nothing to do with
"Should I answer this homework question wrong intentionally so I don't seem like a dork?"
Gets overstimulated at a party and tells the host her mom called and wants her home so she has an excuse to leave
Also lied about what time the party would end so she wouldn't be questioned as to why she was home early
Party ends at 12, tell mom it ends at 10 because she knows she won't be able to function past then and her weekend bedtime is 11, starts goodbye procedures at 9:30
All this effort goes out the window once she's tired/burnt out. School is a horror show for her because it's simultaneously a bunch of loud noises and social conventions. The infamous drive-in double date happened after school. It was also very loud and she was already stressed about getting in a fight with Bob.
Literally just wanted a hand squeeze and felt safe taking the mask off with Ponyboy and only Ponyboy. There was nothing but friendship. She was on the brink of a panic attack.
This, on top of yet another fight with Bob, which ended in a breakup, and then finding out he died, and then getting blamed/yelled at lead to the events of the fic I submitted for Soc September: a complete lack of ability to maintain any semblance of the mask.
Cited John Locke when she dumped Bob. "I'm done." "Did you just break up with me? You can't do that!" "John Locke said that if the government isn't protecting the rights and welfare of the governed, the governed have a right to revolt. When you agreed to be my boyfriend, you agreed to love, respect, and remain loyal to me. You agreed to make me feel safe and comfortable. I agreed to do the same. You are scaring me. I heard the "I got my best girl and some others too" line. Therefore, I have the right to leave." "Cherry, what the fuck?"
Anyway...
Marcia was her biggest cheerleader for demasking once Cherry could finally communicate what was happening.
Cherry did a bit of thinking after the events of the story and sort of started suspecting that she was autistic.
Her cousin was diagnosed with autism and had much higher support needs, but very similar traits to Cherry, just, for lack of better term, on higher levels.
"Hold on. Autism affects the brain. Your sex doesn't determine whether or not you have a brain. So that means girls can be autistic too. But I'm not... wait, what if there are different amounts?"
I'm aware that there's no such thing as less/more autistic. I just didn't know how else to word it and this is Cherry's thought process. This is how she connected the dots.
Her routines are so specific. She always knows what she's supposed to be doing based on the time and date. Things that mess up her routine such as dates/football games stress her out, but she does them anyway.
Does barrel racing and cheer for fun, actually not that good at it, has the proprioception of a box of crayons.
When I say she doesn't want to be a flyer, I mean her internal reaction is to ask the coach how big the curve on their IQ test was when they suggest it, but she sucks it up and does it anyway.
Gets caught, back to ground level, starts crying, they never threw her again.
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bellathechildbitch · 1 year
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👾Masterlist👾
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My Hero Academia:
💪Yagi Toshinori💪:
Spending Quarantine with him
Asking him out on a date
Toshinori x daughter reader
Toshinori as your father
💤Aizawa💤:
Husband Material
Spending Quarantine with him
Him having a child with autism
Him having a child that has his lazy personality
Aizawa being your father would include
💥Hizashi💥
Spending Quarantine with him
Him as your father would include
⛓️Midnight⛓️
Her as your mother would include
Midnight with a short s/o
Other Characters:
Mt Lady with a short s/o
Black Butler
🐈‍⬛Sebastian🐈‍⬛
Quarantine with Sebastian
Modern Sebastian
Having a crush on him would include
Having an s/o that loves musicals
Having an s/o die during birth
Having an s/o who likes rock/heavy metal
Cuddling with Sebastian would include
💋Grell💋
Crushing on Grell
Having an s/o who likes musicals
Grell doing her s/o's nails
Movie Date with Grell
Grell dating a trainee reaper
🪦Undertaker🪦
Having an s/o how likes musicals
Ouran High School Host Club
🪞Tamaki🪞
Tamaki having a sister who is dating Kyoya would include
Being Tamaki's sister would include
Being in a poly relationship with him and Kyoya
👓Kyoya👓
Him dating a commoner
First Kiss
Being in a poly relationship with him and Tamaki
Cuddling with him
Other Stories:
Being best friends with the twins
Kakegurui
❤️Yumeko❤️
Yumeko Hcs
💛Mary💛
Mary Hcs
💙Kiriari💙
Kiriari Hcs
🖤Midari🖤
Midari Hcs
Encanto
🪄Madrigals🪄
Madrigals x Reader
💛💛Dolores💛💛
Dolores x Reader
☀️Peppa☀️
Married life with Peppa
Peppa with an s/o that comes back from the army
Peppa x Wife reader
Jealous! Peppa x reader
Peppa x Reader having fun with their kids
Peppa x Wife! Reader, reader gets injured during casita falling apart
Jealous! Peppa x Reader
More Peppa Hcs
Peppa Hcs
💐Isabella💐
Isabella x Reader
The Outsiders
Dating Ponyboy Curtis
Cuddling with Johnny
Ponyboy having a crush Hcs
Being the Curtis's little sister would include
Arguing with Darry hcs
Cuddling with Soda
The boys reacting to when their s/o gets bullied
🔪Slashers🔪
Slashers Nightly Routine
Slashers with a Taxidermist s/o
▪️Michael Myers▪️
Michael with a small s/o
🖤Billy and Stu🖤
Billy x Stu
Billy x Reader x Stu
Billy and Stu in Quarantine
Billy x Reader x Stu, the reader collects Halloween masks
Billy x Reader x Stu, Color soulmate AU
🤠Sawyer Brothers🤠
The brothers if they had a sister
If you ignored them
Cuddling with them
What do the brothers think of what they do
Bubba Sawyer
Bubba with a s/o who speaks french
🪩Choptop Sawyer🪩
Choptop and Nubbins fighting over you
Chop top with a s/o who speaks french
Chop Top with a plus size reader
Chop top as a father
📸Nubbins Sawyer📸
Nubbins with a plus size reader
Nubbins as a father
🧹Drayton Sawyer🧹
Child's Play
🤬Chucky/Charles🤬
Dating him in his human form
💌Tiffany Valentine 💌
Short Story Tiffany x Reader
☠️The Walking Dead ☠️
Negan Imagine (Being Negans Daughter)
🗡️Adventure Time🗡️
Dating Marceline Hcs
PB x Friend Imagine
🐢TMNT🐢
Mikey With An Autistic Child
💜BTS💜
Spending Quarantine With Namjoon
Spending Quarantine With the Hyung Line
🏐Haikyuu🏐
Spending Quarantine with the First Years would Include
That is all I got for now! If I am missing anything let me know!! But for now I will be working on a few things I have been behind in. But I will be opening up requests again!
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Hellooo! I literally refresh ur blog RELIGIOUSLY for content, lmao. Would love it if you could do a fandom ship for me
My Appearance
I’m a 5’7 dude with fluffy dark brown hair, but I dyed it strawberry blonde a little while ago- you can tell I’m a brunette since my roots have started showing again. My eyes are also dark brown, and I have a light tannish skin tone with a couple of moles here and there (I’m POC, for better reference) My favorite color is blue, so I’m always wearing different shades of it (navy, cerulean, baby blue, sky blue etc.) and my style is kinda e-boy/soft grunge
My Personality
I like to think that I’m a pretty chill guy. I mostly spend my time playing video games (Minecraft, Pokémon, Genshin and honkai star rail) and minding my own business. my grades are average since I’m too lazy to really study. I’m autistic and extremely socially anxious, so I tend to be non-verbal out in public and I never willingly go outside. That being said, I have a lot of online friends who I love chatting with, and I sorta have dark humor (NOT sexism or racism, I mean dark humor as in joking abt my mental health - which is shit, lmao). I’m also lowkey a nerd, so I love analyzing video game lore and making theories cuz Matpat lowkey raised me.
My Hobbies
As I mentioned previously, I’m obsessed with video games. However, I also like comic books and listening to music while I draw! I’m not a professional artist or anything, but I like to sketch and doodle my fav characters when I can. Idek if this counts as a hobby, but I also collect whatever coins, beer caps, paper clips or any general trinket I can find. One time I found this really tiny tennis racket on the floor at school (it’s plastic and barely the size of my thumb) and I’ve kept it in my purse ever since. Yes, I have a purse- they’re cute as hell
Uhhh, I think that’s it! Pls do the Outsiders or Slaughter fandom!! Ty
IM DOING BOTH BECUASE YOU COMPLIMENYED MEEEEEEE!!!! Ignore my spelling im gay ok
MATPAT RAISED ME TOO LETS BE FRIENDS ANON
Now to the ships:
The Outsiders: Ponyboy Curtis
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Explanation: BCUZ I SAID SO/j You and Ponyboy both have special obsessions that you bond over. I think he really likes your style, the way you look, and how especially it contrasts to him. (He’s totally not jealous, yk what they say if you can’t be them be with them) You’re the most interesting person he’s met in the relatively boring town of Tulsa Oklahoma, and he thinks your style is tuff as hell. He would love watching Film Theory with you and doing his own mini analysis, and I think your less social personality would fit with him just perfectly, and he would make sure to respect all of your boundaries. He loves draw with you and listen to music with you, and he loves that you collect things, which is convenient for him because he can’t buy you super expensive gifts due to his low income household, but he can find you cool little knickknacks and such! He wears blue to match you a lot. Yall just chill and vibe together and we love it Yall are cute I ship it 💚
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Texas Chainsaw Massacre:
Nubbins Sawyer
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Explanation: I think you and Nubs are an amazing fit together!!! You both have artistic souls….. in much different ways and he has a purse just like you and also likes collecting little things and I think if he ever found anything cool while scavenging for roadkill he’d totally give it to you and you’d probably just have to be like Nubs… I don’t want a dead rat tail…. 💀 But anyway yall are so cute together, I think his more giddy/insane personality is a great constrast to your more shy/chill seeming one. He’s used to being judged for the way he is so I think he would understand you in a lot of ways- not to mention he LOVES your humor, because he has a pretty wacky dark sense of humor himself, and he’s also used to being judged for that too. He would definitely take lotsa pictures of you and then show them to victims. (And ask if you’re attractive and if they say no they get tortured for hours) He loves listening to your rants about your obsessions and in return you have to listen to hours of him ranting about cool roadkill he found that day or how he made a new trap better for catching victims! He also really likes your style despite not being that aware of fashion in general- You both have a way of understanding eachother like to one else. Ayway I love you both I ship it even though Nubs is my pookie
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xxkai-the-fryxx · 11 months
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Guys, I literally love The Outsiders so much that if you type “P” on my keyboard you get Ponyboy as the first result. I love the story and characters. The setting is chefs kiss and I adore everything about it. Even the movie I enjoy. Even if the actors don’t really look like the characters descriptions they still act exactly how I’d expect them to. I literally have a poster and stickers of The Outsiders and my friend (lucky bastard she is) has the autographed script of the Full Novel version of the film. The Outsiders is the reason I enjoy other movies and books as well like Perks of Being a Wallflower, Dirty Dancing, Ghost, The Hitcher, Top Gun, St. Elmo’s Fire, The Breakfast Club, Tex, Rumble Fish, etc. Thanks to Francis Ford Coppola and S.E Hinton they have helped me find my taste in movies and books. I literally love The Outsiders so much that my best friend and Dad have told me that I literally sleep talk about it. I also love the writing of the character, Ponyboy Curtis. Not only do I heavily relate to him, he is just a good character in my opinion. Yes, he has his flaws, but which character doesn’t? I have also noticed that a few of Ponyboy’s characteristics may have those of some Autistic people, including myself. I’ll continue on in another post but that’s all I have for now.
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I'm less sick today, so that's cool! Anyway, time for
The Outsiders Reread : Chapter Two Notes
I could read a whole book of no plot, just them dicking around at the drugstore and gossiping with random people they knew. They mention that it happens, but there's zero detail
Slice of life Outsiders, please???? For me?????
I just want more details on everything. "[Whoever] cussed him out" "Dallas was talking dirty" etc. I want QUOTES. I want to hear someone call someone every name in the book, I want to know how nasty the sexual harassment got. (I lowkey want to know if it's worth being impressed over or if I could outdo them)
I know, I know, leave shit to the imagination and less is more. Shut up, I want it SPELLED OUT for me.
I want it in the pov of someone shittier. Also. Like, glad Ponyboy is like "that kind of kicks just doesn't appeal to me." (in reference to harassing women), but C'MON, I read for ENTERTAINMENT VALUE, give me something to be shocked by!!! Entertain me!!!!
"It's a shame you can't ride bull half as good as you can talk it." I love Cherry. I know I've called her boring before (she is, I think she's a boring character, sorry), but that's a line. Respect, ig. That's, like, the best she's got, so I'll mention it. As well as the throwing that Coke in Dally's face, obviously.
Modern!Cherry DEFINITELY strapped w that stun gun, tell me I'm lying, bitch would not hesitate.
Marcia is autistic because I'm autistic and I said so, btw. Not sorry.
Also, to all yall making headcanons that Dally would treat a CurtisSister!Reader like he does Cherry, "When Steve's cousin from Kansas came down, Dally was decent to her and watched his swearing. We all did around nice girls who were the cousinly type." He would be base-level respectful (I still don't think he'd be great, but--) and if he knew them better he'd be more friendly, stop writing them to harass them, bro. Some dirty comments, probably when they're closer, but straight harassment is probably a no.
Why do people even glance at Cherry when Marcia is RIGHT THERE?? My girl, is SWEAR TO GOD.
I headcanon/interpret all of her lines in a dry deadpan. Like, she says these funny-ass jokes monotone as hell and it's hit or miss with whether people get it. Not even sarcasm (in tone, it's objectively sarcastic comments), just dead toned witty humor. Serious as can be, saying the craziest things, and most people just don't get that she's kidding but goofyass Two-Bit does and obviously so digs it.
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dcbutinamrev · 3 years
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✨Introduction✨
ABOUT ME:
Welcome to this hellhole.
You can call me Liz. I use she/her pronouns and I am an autisitc dancer, writer, and artist. My Tumblr varies, as I have so many fandoms it’s hard to focus on one. I blame Robert Pattinson and his phenomenal portrayal of Batman/Bruce Wayne in The Batman for getting me back into my DC phase. I’m a theatre kid at heart. I’m a huge Christopher Nolan fan. My ultimate dream is to be a dancing newsboy.
Current fandom: The Outsiders (1983) (The Curtis Brothers have been consuming my brain)
Read my latest Historical Fiction Political Drama Novel on ao3: My Dear Kelly linked below!
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The untold story of David Jacobs, the co-leader of Jack Kelly’s union in the Newsboy Strike in 1899
Interesting Facts:
We all love interesting facts! So, here's some about me:
I am autistic.
My eighth great great great great great uncle, on my Dad's side, is Benjamin Lincoln--the one who exchanged Cornwallis's sword at the end of Yorktown from Cornwallis's representivative.
I can speak a little Spanish
HUGE Christopher Nolan fan
I am a light board operator for a local college theatre
I can act extremely well even though I’m not a trained professional
I like to do one man theatre Broadway performances in my room at 3 am lol
I portrayed Cameron Frye from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off and Arron Burr in Hamilton
I used to do film scores on the piano just by listening to the score itself
Interests
American Revolution
The paranormal
History
Health and Fitness and lifestyle
Writing
Dancing
Fandoms:
The American Revolution
Turn: Washington's Spies
Friends
The Greatest Showman
Dear Evan Hansen
Percy Jackson
Chaos Walking
Newsies
Young Justice - Animated TV show
DC/Batfamily
Elvis (2022)
Stranger Things
The Outsiders (1983 and Broadway musical)
Ships:
Chanoey (Friends) - Chandler Bing and Joey Tribbianni
Percico (Percy Jackson) - Percy Jackson and Nico Di Angelo
Javey (Newsies) - Jack Kelly and David Jacobs
Sprace (Newsies) - Spot Conlon and Racetrack Higgins
Percibeth (Percy Jackson) - Percy Jackson and Annabeth Chase
TimKon (Young Justice/DC) - Tim Drake (Red Robin) and Conner Kent (Superboy)
Birdflash (Young Justice/DC) - Dick Grayson (Nightwing) and Wally West (Kid Flash)
JayRoy (Young Justice/DC) - Jason Todd (Red Hood) and Roy Harper (Arsenal)
Timbern (DC) - Tim Drake (Red Robin) and Bernard Dowd
Steddie (Steanger Things) - Steve Harrington and Eddie Munson
PB&J (The Outsiders) - Ponyboy Curtis/Johnny Cade
Stevepop (The Outsiders) - Steve Randle/Sodapop Curtis
Marbit (The Outsiders) - Two-Bit Matthews/Marcia (come on they’re so cute in the book it’s killing me)
Self indulgent Tarry (The Outsiders) Tim Shepard/Darry Curtis (I blame the Outsiders TV show for making me do that one)
SOCIALS:
Wattpad: @Lams_WashingDad
A03: DCbutinamrev
If you have any questions, my ask box is always open and so are my DMs.
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wisteria-lodge · 3 years
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bird primary (system in progress) + burnt badger secondary (really loud bird model)
Howdy! I’m still trying to figure out my own houses and was wondering if you could provide some insight. I haven’t exactly mastered the system so I don’t know how accurate/inaccurate my claims are, so bear with me.
The “why”/Primary: I am extremely motivated by knowledge. I want to know things, not just out of intrinsic curiosity (though that does play a role), but because knowing why things work helps me protect myself more effectively.
One of the trickiest things about this system is separating motivation from method. Because yeah, they are related, but they're also really different. Like this example: "I protect myself by learning things." That's a how, that's secondary stuff. (Bird secondary of course.)
A recent example is this— a group of my former friends all ditched me because I discussed a heavily stigmatized mental disorder that I show symptoms of. And my first response (other than bawling) was to ask them why. And when I got the answer, I was hurt, but I understood. I don’t say this for you to show me pity, but rather because it illustrates this model in action.
This is a really interesting example. Your friends acted in a way that emotionally hurt you. First you processed your feelings (which you talk about in a dismissive, lighthearted, jokey way) then you asked them for more information... which hurt you, but also made you more secure. This is very Bird primary. You feel feelings, but they're whatever. What actually bothers you is not having the data.
(I suspect you're going to end up being a Double Bird. And Double Birds are unique in that their morality and problem-solving are SO interconnected, that they think I'm crazy for saying that for most people, they are in fact two very different things.)
When I got the why and processed my emotions, I cut off ties and realized that their severe judgy-ness had hindered my life for 2 years. And now that I know the “why”, I won’t bring up said disorder again until I know it’s safe. It might never be, but I still have hope.
You updated your system, and you cut away the parts that aren't serving you anymore. Bird primary.
Morally-speaking, I am very sensitive to the views of others around me.
External primary.
I’m not proud of this. In fact, it’s a detriment.
A lot of Birds feel this way. It's a big part of why they tend to like Lion primaries. Lions are much more able to dismiss things with "sounds like that's a them problem."
I won’t go into details, but my parents are… bad. Not wholly, but they are bad. I’ve tried for years, and still do, to escape their opinions because I know it’ll influence mine.
Parents are sticky. They do that. I've been a happily UnBurnt Lion primary for a while now... but I still sometimes hear that voice in my head that sounds like my mother.
And, much like them, I tend to get over-passionate in what I stand for. Unlike them, I’m willing to change if evidence supports this change. I always, however, carry the burden of my former hatred. I always feel guilt over my old beliefs. Even if I’ve changed, the pain I’ve done can never be reversed. And this guilt eats me alive, this shame of being fundamentally wrong.
Okay. You got really emotional on me really quickly here. This could mean a couple things. Your parents sound like fairly toxic Idealists, either Exploded Lions or Exploded Birds (I'm sort of leaning Lion due to the more emotion-heavy words like "passion" and "hatred.") Birds can feel bad, feel guilt, feel shame when looking back at an older version of themselves that they now consider morally repugnant. (Birds are human.) Idealists struggle with the angst of worrying that they are fundamentally wrong about the world. So you could be a guilty Bird, especially if your emotions feel wrong or unhelpful somehow. But you could also be a very Burnt Lion modeling Bird - because Bird seems safer, and you don't want to be a Lion the way your parents are.
When the friend-event happened, I thought that I was in the wrong, and that I had once again fucked myself over because of my passion and sureness in what I have.
"I thought I was wrong because I was acting like an Exploded Lion primary." Yeah, I'm thinking there's some sort of outside influence here that needs to be unpacked.
It took a lot of convincing and evidence for me to see that they were the assholes (albeit I wasn’t pure either— I was their friend, after all).
I'm definitely leaning Bird for you. A bird surrounded by Lions maybe, who sometimes uses Lion terminology. But Bird.
I am a planner and system-lover at heart. I’m not proud of it, but it’s just part of me.
What's with all this negative language? Being a planner and a system-lover is a wonderful thing to be. There's some Burning here.
The caveat— I have autism, so I’m not sure if it’s due to that or not. Hence the shortness of this section. Take it as you will, regardless of if it’s evidence or not.
I have autism and I'm a Lion Badger. People are different. The only real pattern I've observed is the way nerodivergent people disproportionately build Bird secondaries as coping strategies.
Honesty is maybe not the best policy, it’s still an admirable one. I wish, frankly, that my moral system was more honest. I feel like I have no set morals. That it all comes from elsewhere. Lion primaries have this set, intrinsic morality that I envy. My friend is a lion primary, and while my views have radically changed, hers haven’t inched. She’s always been honest about herself and what she holds true.
I'm doubling down on Bird primary for you. This is the perspective of a Bird looking in on a Lion. Lion morality isn't set or intrinsic - it's built, and it changes, but it builds and changes differently than a Bird's does (more slowly, usually). But there really is a pattern of Birds seeing it as more moral/easier/better.
And I’m still trying to figure out what “truth” means to me. I mean, yes, I’m a dry and blunt asshole, but that’s not really the same as gut morality. Internal honesty is what I want, and external honesty is what I have to some extent.
It sounds that you are going though a lot of very intense shifts in your life right now. You've got a diagnosis that has you questioning your place in the world. You've followed your parent's system all you life, and are now deciding that you don't want that. But now comes deciding what you do want, and that's a lot harder (especially for a Bird, who has to build it from the ground up.) You like the way Lions do things, but Lion primaries do not feel accessible.
I’m very clear with who I like. I can admit their faults, and even get annoyed or angry at them, but not even betrayal can stop me from loving them. I’d compare myself to the Twelfth Doctor from “Doctor Who” and Ponyboy Curtis from The Outsiders in that regard.
So maybe you are building a system with very Snake values.
Loyalty is one of my weaknesses. I get overly-attached to people, and so if/when they leave me, it shatters my world. But my brand of loyalty is mostly to people, not philosophical ideas.
... but you're not *really* comfortable with Snake either, if you consider it to be a "weakness."
I would consider myself somewhat philosophical (well, as much as a fucking teenager can be)
Teenagers are *extremely* philosophical, stop being so down on yourself.
but I can be somewhat vague in my beliefs.
Because you're still building them, give yourself a *second.*
If I were to rate the likelihood of what primary I think I am, it’s something like this:
Bird: 9/10 probability (maybe burned)
Snake: 7/10 probability
Badger: 6/10 probability (maybe burned)
Lion: 2/10 probability
What is it with Birds and numbered lists?
The “how”: I feel like I change in order to fit in. I mean, to some extent, we all do, but it’s far more drastic for me. With the lion primary friend, I act as a “Jason Todd” to their Batman. I challenge them, egg them on, crack jokes and become violently passionate and act like a nerd, and she simply watches, usually adding her own comments but mostly sitting on the sidelines by choice. We also joke that I’m the Ferris Bueller to their Cameron Frye. But, with another friend, I’m a parent figure. I listen most of the time, and sometimes jump in with creative ideas and we talk for hours about it.
I'm guessing Actor Bird, both because you can specifically list out the qualities that you "act" out. And because you're invoking and basing your performance off specific [fictional] characters. Which is a HUGE Actor Bird thing.
I go with the flow of a given situation as best as I can (with the added caveat of being autistic, because that does affect how well I can read a room). However, that’s where the adaptation ends.
Huh. I'm hearing Burnt secondary language here. "I'd like to go with the flow and read the room - but I can't, because I'm autistic." You can definitely *learn* how to read a room. Why do you think I'm so interested in (and good at :) personality systems? This is how I learned to use my Courtier Badger. I used to model Bird secondary like crazy, and I kind of don't bother anymore. I don't need the training wheels.
Planning: like I stated before, I’m a planner. I try to learn the most about a situation before jumping in. Sometimes, however, I stall the inevitable and miss my chance, so I jump in and wind up nearly drowning. And this dichotomy repeats. I overcompensate for a lack of knowledge in a situation by micromanaging, or I wind up sitting bored when I’ve already done everything I need to do. And yes, stress and boredom are equally as destructive for me. I try so hard to plan to avoid both of these outcomes, but it only works half the time. So, I guess I’m a bit of a “planster” overall.
I want to learn about a situation... but sometimes I "stall" or "drown" (Burnt language.) But planning also leads to "micromanaging" and "getting bored" (model language.) I think you've got a really loud Bird secondary model... but there might be something else underneath.
Collecting things is fun. Postcards, candles, lighters, crystals, rocks, 1940s hats, knowledge, stories, music, (original) characters, the list goes on. I’m a collector of whatever I can get my hands on. Hell, by this point, I can’t tell what’s my special interest and what I just enjoy (again, autism).
Oh my goodness gracious 'my special interest' and 'what I enjoy' are not two different categories!
But my systems and collections are my coping.
Figured.
I can’t say, though, that they hold any weight outside of emotional release. There’s nothing practical about knowing how they shot The Outsiders movie, or how crows have a flat tail and ravens have two main sections on theirs. All of this knowledge almost feels useless to me. I mean, sure, I’m great at school, but what else? Nothing, it seems like. And being good at school and nothing else makes a person go crazy when they can’t achieve their academic goals. But that’s a bit besides the point— I’m a collector, but I’m unsure how well this really fits into a secondary beyond a model.
Bird secondary model.
I invest in others more than I care to admit.
Oh man, are you a Badger secondary like me?
I genuinely believe in the goodness in humans, no matter how impossible it becomes. Even those who I don’t see any good in aren’t wholly evil. My perception isn’t law.
^ That's primary stuff. Maybe a more Badger-flavored system is going to work better for you than a Snake-flavored one.
But some people trust me: with their secrets, with homework, with relationship issues, with their religious struggles. And I try to help. I might not be good with it, but I do try to help as best I can.
Kinda sounds like a Badger secondary.
I use my planning and my categorizing skills and my knowledge to benefit others. I show up, I do what I need to do, and I don’t usually expect much to come of it. It’s nice when something does, but it’s not expected. And sometimes, these investments into others' lives and grades and relationships do pay off. I make friends. Those friends stick by me, and I trust them. I continue to invest in others, because I am a lover even though I’m cynical.
I think you're a Badger secondary.
And when that trust is broken, like the example in the beginning, I go to people who won’t abandon me to get a second opinion. When I say that I love someone, I mean it. So it hurts when they leave. It always does.
Oh that's your friends leaving hit you so hard. It's not an abstract morality thing at all, it's practical. You're a Badger secondary, and they were your base of support.
I’ll be frank on this— I’m almost entirely sure that I’m not a lion secondary. I’m fiercely efficient and some people see me as a good leader, but that’s it.
Lion and Badger are the two Inspirational secondaries. They're the one who sort of manage to collect armies or families as a side effect of existing.
Even with the leader example, I prefer interpersonal relations or to be alone. I’m not a big fan of group settings.
That's fair. I am also a Badger who really, really likes my own company. Or small groups of interesting people.
If I were to rate the likelihood of what secondary I am, it’s like this:
Bird: 7/10 probability
Badger: 6/10 probability
Snake: 5/10 probability
Lion: 0/10 probability
Other systems for comparison: I’m aware that MBTI and enneagram are, at worst, pseudo-science, but I still enjoy them regardless. At best, they’re fun self-help tools, and that’s how I try to use them.
MBTI: INTJ (Ni-Te-Fi-Se)
Enneagram: 5w4, tritype 514
Sagittarius sun libra moon cancer rising in astrology
FLEV or LFEV in attitudinal psyche
sx/sp (sexual and self-preservation) in instinctual variants
MBTI, Enneagram, and astrology are all fun in their own ways. (I don't actually know the last two!) And I can talk about them on their own terms. But this system was the best, and the most useful, when I went looking for words to describe myself.
I hope this is enough information, and thank you again if you do happen to do this! If you don’t, that’s totally okay. Have a good day!
Thank you for writing in. That was a journey! Thanks @thesketchykid for the submission.
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rileyh20 · 3 months
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What hcs do you have for Ponyboy
Oooo, okay, so under cut!
(Warning, I am still working on finishing my entire HC list, but this is what I have so far)
Ponyboy Curtis
A pyromantic, he loves fire (Until the church shit)
Has a fucking terrifying glare, but only actually glares at people when they wake him up (His poor brothers)
Should not be left alone around a stack of books (He’ll read them all in like two hours)
A really fast reader, but he reads the book over and over again to the point he basically memorizes it
Major third wheel, doesn’t matter if the ship is Jally, or Stevepop, or something else, he’s just a third wheel at heart
Definitely reads the book before he watches the movie 
Sometimes when he wants to write he just can’t, so he does other things instead, but once he’s in the zone, he’ll write for hours without hearing anything around him (He’s just like me fr)
Sarcastic and sassy af sometimes (Because I want him to be, no other reason)
He likes grandma hobbies (You know what I’m talking about, the knitting, sewing kinds of stuff, crafting thingies)
He would be the kind of person who helps you get your locker unstuck when you are either too scared to ask a strong person, or you don’t want your locker beaten into scraps when you could just ask Ponyboy
Cooks sometimes, he ain’t the best, but he isn’t terrible at it (He especially does it if Darry looks like he had a long day)
Sometimes he’s the only person able to stop Sodapop from putting food dye into the food (Especially if Darry is the one cooking)
Sorry y’all, but autistic Ponyboy is what I got for you guys 
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rileyh20 · 1 month
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do you have ponyboy and dally hcs
I don't know if you meant platonically or romantically or if you just wanted the separate characters
So I went with separate characters
Lemme know if that isn't what ya wanted tho!
Ponyboy Curtis:
A pyromantic, he loves fire (Until the church shit)
Suicidal Ponyboy go burrr- (Even if it’s accidental)
Has a fucking terrifying glare, but only actually glares at people when they wake him up (His poor brothers)
Chubby Ponyboy… (Especially after the book cuz his brothers made him eat more to gain nutrients and stuff)
Should not be left alone around a stack of books (He’ll read them all in like two hours)
A really fast reader, but he reads the book over and over again to the point he basically memorizes it
Major third wheel, doesn’t matter if the ship is Jally, or Stevepop, or something else, he’s just a third wheel at heart
Definitely reads the book before he watches the movie 
Sometimes when he wants to write he just can’t, so he does other things instead, but once he’s in the zone, he’ll write for hours without hearing anything around him (He’s just like me fr)
Sarcastic and sassy af sometimes (Because I want him to be, no other reason)
He likes grandma hobbies (You know what I’m talking about, the knitting, sewing kinds of stuff, crafting thingies)
He would be the kind of person who helps you get your locker unstuck when you are either too scared to ask a strong person, or you don’t want your locker beaten into scraps when you could just ask Ponyboy
Cooks sometimes, he ain’t the best, but he isn’t terrible at it (He especially does it if Darry looks like he had a long day)
Sometimes he’s the only person able to stop Sodapop from putting food dye into the food (Especially if Darry is the one cooking)
Sorry y’all, but autistic Ponyboy is what I got for you guys 
May or may not be gender fluid (Let me live my life)
Gets the WORST FUCKING ANXIETY when someone is driving, especially if it’s someone he doens’t trust driving like Two-Bit or Sodapop 😭✋
Okay, but you can’t argue with me on the fact he’s bi coded, and also asexual cuz I want him to be
Has made a joke about Tuesday being “Twosday” (Two-Bit), and everyone just quotes it every now and then
OH ALSO, A DIFFERENT TIME HE GIVES A TERRIFYING GLARE IS WHEN SOMEONE MENTIONS HIS GREEN EYES
Religious Ponyboy… I love you religious Ponyboy
Okay, but on a different note, I think Ponyboy is religious, at least in some way
Somehow knows everyone's full government name??? And also sometimes with use maiden names depending on how angry he is 😭✋ 
Will learn other languages so he can shit talk/swear in front of the gang
You know Ponyboy has those chubby cheeks, just squish his face
I love the HC of Ponyboy being taller than Darry when he grows up, but hear me out, Ponyboy getting a random growth spurt and just somehow being very tall when he’s like 16 or something
Also, gentle giant Ponyboy, please
Dallas "Dally" Winston:
Scared of spiders
He’s also scared of dogs
Ough, I’m thinking bi tbh
Will kick children
Has a soft spot for both Ponyboy and Johnny
Will go violent if he learns someone he cares about got hurt, both emotionally and physically
Sometimes draws, but doesn’t do it that often
Sorry for not having as many for Dally! I've been neglecting my duties to make HCs 😔
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