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Hello everyone! For those of you who may not know me, I'm a polytheist and witch from Southern Europe who's been in this path for 5 years. I practice tarot since 5 years ago and astragalomancy since 4 months ago. More info about me and my practice here.
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The game was, and still is, played all around the world:
god forbid 5000 year old girls do anything
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greek astragalomancy
guess who found out about another ancient form of divination yall. first off, I would like to direct you to this post by @hellenic-reconstructionism that basically said all of this already. I'm not sourcing from them, however they have basically all the same info I have so I don't want it to seem like I'm copying them. much love <3
BACKGROUND:
Traditionally, astragalomancy was done with bones called astragaloi, knucklebones or tali (most commonly from sheep or goats). To be clear, the use of astragaloi has been traced back all the way to the Neolithic period, and is not solely Greek. We are just only talking about the Greek divination type, but just know these aren't the only interpretations out there.
Also, this kind of divination is pretty similar to psephoi reading, to which my friend @apolloforetoldus made a post about!
For the game and divination technique, the four sides of the knucklebone would be marked as 1 (chion), 3 (hyption), 4 (pranes), or 6 (koon), with opposing sides adding up to 7.
The Ancient Greeks and Romans would also make replicas of astragaloi out of wood, glass, bronze, or ivory, and in a book I read they used a coin flip instead of a dice roll, so I'll include how to do that too
HOW TO:
Usually a full set of astragaloi would be five bones, but you can also use one bone and just roll it five times. In either case, hold your knucklebones in your hand and jiggle them (like you would with dice) while thinking of your question. Throw/drop them onto a soft surface like an altar cloth or mat and look at either all the downward or the upward facing numbers (depending on what you prefer, I use the upward facing). Make sure to keep track of all the individual numbers that you pulled, as each sum can have multiple different interpretations.
For another method, take a set of three coins of any shape, size, or origin. Flip these three all together at once, and see their correspondences below.
Chion: 3 Heads | Hyption: 1 Tail | 2 Heads | Pranes; 2 Tails, 1 Head | Koon: 3 Tails
Throw this set of three four more times. Each time you flip the three, correspond it to an astragalus value, so that you end up with five numbers.
Some deities that you may call upon that are mentioned in the interpretations are Athena, Hermes, Apollo, or Themis (among others that I could not be bothered to list in entirety).
INTERPRETATIONS:
there are, to my knowledge, two distinct interpretations for each number reading. one in "The Greek I Ching" by Kostas Dervenis (which he sources from somewhere else, I'm sure) and those from the inscriptions in Termessos, which are below. I did not include all of Dervenis' (I used a couple to fill in some blanks) because I would feel bad taking something I paid for and providing it for free on the internet.
Individual rolls | Sum | Title | Interpretation
11111 | 5 | Zeus Olympios | If you see only Chians: Zeus will give good thinking to your mind, stranger: he will grant happiness to your work, for which you will give thanks. But appease Aphrodite and the Son of Maia (Hermes).
11113 | 7 | Athena Areia | If four Chians and one three are cast, the god signals: By avoiding enmity and Animosity, you will reach your prize; you will arrive and the blue-eyed goddess Athena will save you. The activity that you have in mind will turn out as you wish it.
41111 | 8 | Moirai | If one four and four Chians in a row are cast: Don’t do the business that you are engaged in; it will not turn out well. It will be difficult and impossible around someone who tires himself out. But if you go abroad for some time, no harm will come from it.
33111 | 9 | Zeus’ Eagle | If two threes and three Chians are cast: A high flying eagle on the right-hand side of the traveler will be a good omen; with the help of Greatest Zeus (Zeus Megistos) you will achieve your goal; do not fear.
61111 | 10 | Daimôn Megistos | If one six and four Chians in a row; It will be better to fulfill whatever vow you made to the daimôn, if you intend to perform what you ponder in your mind. Demeter and Zeus will save you.
11143 | 10 | Caring Fortune | If three are Chians, one a four and the fifth a three, Do not do the business you are about to do; as for the very intention you have, the gods are restraining it, but they will free you from you toil and no harm will meet you.
33311 | 11 | Victory | If three threes are cast, and further two Chians; you will win; you will take what you wish, and you will achieve everything; the daimôn will make you honored, and you will overcome your enemies, the plan that you are about to realize will be according to your desire.
44111 | 11 | Joyful Victory | If two fours and three Chians in a row are cast; Do all your business because it will turn out well. The gods will save him who is ill from his bed; also the god announces that he who is in another country will return home.
41133 | 12 | Asklepios | If one four, two Chians and two threes are cast; A storm will come about your business, but it will turn out well; also the god announces that he will free the one who is ill from his suffering, and the gods will bring safely home the one who is abroad.
11163 | 12 | Steering Tyche | Three Chians, a six, and the fifth throw a three; Do not yet make haste to go; it is impossible to go, rather wait, if you set out to rush mindlessly, you will do great damage to yourself, but if you wait, blameless time will accomplish everything.
11164 | 13 | Aphrodite | Three Chians and a six and the fifth a four; Sail wherever you wish; you will return full of joy, for you have found and accomplished everything that you ponder in your mind; but pray to Aphrodite and the Son of Maia (Hermes).
13333 | 13 | Zeus and Athena | If one Chian and four threes are cast; You are fit for every business and ready for any undertaking. The gods will easily save him who is ill, and all will be well as to the other oracles.
11344 | 13 | The Melodious Muse | If one three falls, two ones, and two fours: You would do well to act. Good prospects, profits easily gained. It is better now to participate, rather than to try to create. Keep private, in order to succeed, the sweet verse of the Muse.
13334 | 14 | Triton | One Chion, three threes, and one four; The god announces: You kick against the goad, you struggle against the waves, you search for a fish in the sea: do not hasten to do business. It does not help you to force the gods at the wrong time.
61133 | 14 | Daimôn | One six, two Chians, and a pair of threes. Do not project terrible things, and do not pray for what is against the gods, thinking terrible thoughts. There will accrue no gain from it, and no reward will come from this path you are walking.
44411 | 14 | Agathos Daimôn | If three fours and two ones are cast: The daimôn will lead you on the way that you undertake, and the lover of smiling, Aphrodite, will lead you toward good things. You will return with rich fruit and an untroubled Fate.
13344 | 15 | Zeus Savior | One Chian, two threes, two fours being cast: Approach with courage the business that you set out to do; do it! You will win, since the gods have given you these favorable signs, and do not avoid them in your intention: nothing bad will come from it.
11166 | 15 | Zeus Ammon | If three ones and two sixes are cast: The god announces to you: Undertake with courage the way you set out in your mind, god will give you everything: you will accomplish whatever your mind tells you, and Zeus, thundering high, will be with you as your savior.
33333 | 15 | Tyche the Savior | If all the threes are cast together: The woman who has given birth to a child, had both breasts dry, but then she again flourished and has milk in abundance. Then you too will reap the fruits about which you ask me.
43611 | 15 | Zeus of Hosts and Guests (Xenios) | A four, a three, a six, and two Chians: Do not make haste with the business for which you set out, it is not yet time. The gods will easily save him who is ill, and the god announces that he will make an end to the travel of him who is in foreign land.
63331 | 16 | Herakles | One six, three threes, and a fifth a Chian: The moment has not yet arrived, you make too much hast. Do not act in vain, nor like the bitch that has borne a blind puppy. Deliberate calmly, and the god will lead you.
64411 | 16 | Ares | One six, two fours, and two Chians: Why do you hurry? Wait calmly, the moment has not yet come; if you hurry without sense and in vain, you pursue something that is not yet ready. I do not yet see the right moment, but you will have success when you wait a little while.
43333 | 16 | Kronos | One four is cast, the other four are threes: Scorpions stand in your way, do not hurry towards the business that you intend; wait, and what you wish will arrive later; neither to buy this nor to sell is better.
44413 | 16 | Delphic Apollo | Three fours, one Chian, and the fifth a three; Do not make haste, it will not be better to go; when you wish to rush mindlessly, you will damage yourself very much; but when you stay put, blameless time will perform everything.
66113 | 17 | Isis the Savior | A double six, two Chians and the fifth a three: Enter and receive the voice from the tripod! The time is also ripe for marriage; you will marry and return home. You will achieve whatever you want in your business, having found the thing about which you are anxious.
16634 | 17 | Hermes the Savior | A Chian, a six, two threes and the fifth a four: I do not see anything painful among the things about which you ask me; do not think small, go forward with courage; you will find everything you wish: your vow will be fulfilled, and there is a perfect occasion for you.
44333 | 17 | Sarapis | If two fours are cast and three threes: Take courage and fight, Zeus the Owner (Ktesios) is your helper. You will punish your opponent and have him under your fist, and he will give happiness to the works for which you thank him.
14444 | 17 | Revenge | When a single Chian is cast, and the others are four: Now the daimôn will fulfill everything for you and lead you the right way. You will perform everything according to your mind, do not wear yourself out anymore. You will achieve beautifully whatever you desire.
66114 | 18 | Adrasteia | If two sixes, two Chians, and the fifth a four: Do your business and undertake it; the time will be favorable. In the middle, difficulties and danger are waiting. As to the other oracles, things will turn out well for you.
16443 | 18 | Zeus of the Lightning | A Chian and a six, two fours and the fifth a three: What you plan will not turn out according to your liking, when you do it; it is not useful to travel to foreign lands. You will show no insight if you sell now, nor will it be useful.
44433 | 18 | The Greatest Daimôn | If there are three fours and two threes, he signifies this: I do not see this plan as safe for you; thus wait. You will do well, after this there will be luck; as for now remain calm, trust the gods and stay helpful.
63333 | 18 | Good Time | A six and four threes together; the oracle announces thus: Do not make haste, the daimôn is opposed to you, rather wait and do not act like a dog that gave birth to a blind litter. Take counsel calmly, and things will turn out happily for you.
66133 | 19 | Good Hope | Two sixes, a Chian and two threes; he signifies this: Everything about which you ask me is smooth riding for you and safe; do not be afraid, a daimôn will lead you toward everything; he will end the painful difficulties and you will disprove the suspicions.
44461 | 19 | Zeus of the Possessions | Three fours, one six, and the fifth a Chian: Proceed with courage, the oracle is about hope, stranger; it announces also that the sick person will be saved. If you need to consult an oracle, you will receive what you desire.
34444 | 19 | Hermes Who Brings Gain in Trade | If one three and four fours are cast: Zeus will give you a good plan to your mind, stranger; thus, all will be well, undertake what you desire; you will find whatever you ask the oracle for, and nothing will be bad for you.
33364 | 19 | Victory | Three threes, one six and the fifth a four: You pronounce a good oracle, stranger; one you have thought it through, you will do whatever you desire, and the god will be your helper; you will win, you will reap the fruits, and you will achieve everything.
44444 | 20 | The Inexorable Moirai | If all fours are cast together in the same way: the sun has gone down, and terrible night has come, everything has become dark. Interrupt the matter about which you ask me; it is neither better to buy nor to sell.
43661 | 20 | The Moon | A four and a three, two sixes, and the fifth a Chian: Do not undertake this business, stranger; it will not turn out well for you. The god announces that he will help the one who is ill; and if there is any fear, nothing bad will happen to you.
63344 | 20 | The Protecting Dioskouroi | Alone the six, two threes, the others fours: A man who makes haste does not achieve what opportunity offers. You have a profit, and there is fear everywhere because of evil; your business is ill-fated, and everything is painful; watch out!
66611 | 20 | Hephaistos | Three sixes and two Chians; he will tell the following: It is impossible to do business; do not toil in vain! And do not turn every stone, lest you chance upon a scorpion. Fussiness will not bring you luck, be on your guard for all sorts of misfortune!
66441 | 21 | Demeter | A pair of sixes, two fours, the fifth a Chian: Everything about which you ask me is on a smooth way for you and safe; do not be afraid, a daimôn will lead you toward everything; I see nothing that will bring you harm; take heart and go forward.
44463 | 21 | Helios, Bringer of Light | Three fours, one single six, and the fifth a three: You will achieve whatever you desire, and you will find whatever you worry about. Make an attempt, stranger, having taken heart; everything is ready; you will find what is invisible, you will come to the day of salvation.
33366 | 21 | Tyche Who Leads to Good Things | When three threes are cast and two sixes, he announces this: You matters are doing well; this oracle tells you to press forward; you will get away from difficult illness and master everything, and the god announces that he who is erring in a foreign land will return.
16663 | 22 | The Manifest Fates | One Chian, three sixes, the fifth being cast is a three: Do not put your hand into a wolf’s mouth, lest some harm happens to you; the matter about which you ask is difficult and delicate; but you stay quiet, avoiding travel and business transactions.
44446 | 22 | Poseidon | If all that are cast are fours, but the fifth is a six, he announces this: Throwing seeds and writing letters on the sea are both pointless and fruitless doing; since you are mortal, do not force a god to harm you.
43366 | 22 | Terrible Ares | Four and two threes, two sixes, and he announces this: Do not undertake the travel that you intend, stranger! Nobody will do it. A large fiery lion is about, against whom you have to be on your guard, a terrible one. The oracle is untractable, wait quietly.
16664 | 23 | Athena | One Chian, three sixes, and the fifth a four: Honor Pallas Athena, and you will get everything, whatever you wish, and everything which you are planning will turn out well; she will free from bonds and will save the sick person.
66443 | 23 | Happiness | If two sixes are cast and two fours, and the fifth is a three: Sail, wherever you want, you will return home again, having found and done everything according to your wish; you will achieve everything, and thus to buy and to trade is happiness.
66633 | 24 | Apollo Pythios | If three sixes and two threes are being cast, he signifies this: Stay put, do not act, obey Phoibos’ oracles. With time, you will find an occasion, but for now stay quiet. If you wait a short while you will achieve everything, whatever you desire.
44466 | 24 | Kronos the Child Eater | Three fours, two sixes; the god announces this to you: Stay at home with your possessions and do not go somewhere else, lest a terrible monster and a revengeful demon approach you. I do not see this business as reliable and safe.
46663 | 25 | Man Who Brings Light | One four being cast, three sixes and the fifth a three: Take courage; you have an opportunity; you will achieve what you desire, and you will come upon the right time to begin your travel; your toil will have its chance; is is good to engage in work, competitions and litigation.
66661 | 25 | Mother of the Gods | Four sixes, the fifth a Chian: he signifies this: As wolves overpower sheep and powerful lions overpower broad hoofed oxen, so you too will master all this, and everything about which you ask will be yours, with the help of Zeus’ son Hermes.
66644 | 26 | Subterranean Zeus | When three sixes and two fours, the oracle announces: The business has its obstacles, do not make hast, but wait; there is a road, painful, impossible and not to be approached; to buy is painful and to sell brings loss.
66663 | 27 | Heavenly Aphrodite | Four sixes, the three alone: he signifies this to you: The daughter of Uranus, Aphrodite, the mighty mistress of the Erotes, sends a good oracle, she will grant travel to you; you will escape from sickness and vainglorious thoughts.
66664 | 28 | Damage | Four sixes, a four: he signifies this: It is impossible to undertake something vain; do not in vain toil uselessly, lest you incur damage by pressing on. It is not good to begin traveling nor doing business.
66666 | 30 | Square Hermes | If all that are cast together are sixes: Do not go, wherever you intend to; it will be better for you to stay; I see something hostile to you, thus wait; afterwards, it will be possible, and (the god) will free you from fear and save you from toil.
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"In antiquity, people consulted astragaloi [the 'knucklebones' of sheep and goats] as they might now use tarot cards or read tea leaves. The use of astragaloi, however, was a poor person's method of divination, much in keeping with the offerings at the cave [Korykian cave of the nymphs at Delphi], which were almost uniformly humble and of poor quality. Those who could not afford consultation at the oracle of Apollo made the journey up to the cave to consult the nymphs, perhaps in conjunction with Hermes."
Greek Nymphs: Myth, Cult, Lore by Jennifer Larson, p. 11-12
#whenever i reread parts of this book again i am just filled with adoration of the nymphs#nymphai#nymphai worship#jennifer larson#helpol#hellenic reconstrunctionism
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I've been trying to revitalize my practice, as I've been a bit depressed and rather dormant aside from basic acknowledgements of the Gods and simple prayers from time to time. Barely even lighting any incense lol. As part of that I added Hellenion.org's calendar onto my G-cal, to help me stay on top of holidays and observances. I'm also thinking of getting some astragaloi bc I'm of course just a nerd for divination
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What is your favorite toy to play with? Harkan
( kid muses time! )
Wide tooth grin burst free as the youth reached into the pouch secured by the tie on his waist. His ruffled hair a mess from an earlier rough play but all expect such a sight among young boys who took to their free time to play. Muffled shuffle of various items could be heard as his hand thrusted into the opening. The same jovial expression held as small objects are revealed with different edges.
"Astragaloi!" Cubed and uneven edges possessed minor cuts and stains. Upon closer inspection, one might find they resembled bones -- though their source is well known to all who lived there. Sheep, as delicious as they were, could be used in differnet methods such as collecting their knucklebones to create a form of entertainment for children and adults alike.
"Want to play a round?"
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Assignment Name: Sketchbook Week 1
Tools: Clip Studio Paint, MacOS, Wacom Intuos Pro
Desc: Sketch 3 figures using the drawing methods we used in class.
Feedback: I used different sketching methods to draw each figure. The one on the bottom left took longer than the other three. Using large black strokes to shape the body outline seems inefficient if the posture is not stretching. I spent extra time using white lines to outline the legs.
Link to Ref:
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Misha also linked to this: https://ladyofbones.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/astragaloi-handout.pdf eeeeeeeEEEEEeeeee
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For the two of you who might be momentarily obsessed (as I am) with the ancient (everywhere, as it turns out, I mean, it does stand to reason) game/divination method of knucklebones (and who are, of course, both to be found on Tumblr), check out Misha Tikh's video showing off 3D printed tali. You get get these on Shapeways (a bit spendy, but they turn out really nicely): https://www.shapeways.com/product/LE3XNVQQM/knucklebone-dice-set Or, if you have your own 3D printer, the file that Misha has made available on Thingiverse prints up beautifully: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1036458 (I've printed these out at 80% scale and am currently priming them for some painting & weathering). From a completely different group of folks, there is a full deluxe set of "Tali", as was put together on Kickstarter something like five years ago, on sale for $25 from the original $40 over at VR-Soft Games: https://vrgames-vr-soft-com.myshopify.com/products/tali-deluxe-w-4-player-add-on-characters -- this comes with a whole roleplaying game version of the game, with coin-tokens, and may be very well suited for anyone who's interested in ancient history and who possesses a crow brain (your mileage may vary).
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notes and quotes from Jennifer Larson's "Ancient Greek Cults: A Guide" chapter 11: "Dear to the people: Hermes, Pan, and nature deities" as i reread it
relative to the other Olympian deities, Hermes had few sanctuaries, festivals, and temples. he was pre-eminent in private, neighborhood, and domestic contexts.
the cult of Hermes was conducted at the popular level, meaning that people used modes of worship other than standard city-sponsored sanctuaries and festivals.
essentially a god of travel and boundaries, came to preside over thievery, lucky finds, and transitions between the lands of the living and the dead
often in connection with other deities worshiped in the countryside: like Apollon and Pan, has an important pastoral function > for people who support themselves by herding sheep and goats: maintaining boundaries and preventing theft of flocks > prayers, inscriptions, and votive reliefs demonstrate that Hermes was grouped in worship with other gods believed to inhabit the surface of the earth and to exert an influence over the prosperity of herdsmen - early poets agree that Hermes could aid in the multiplication of flocks
patronage of travelers grows not only from his territorial concerns but also from his role as a herdsman - Hermes accompanies and protects the traveler just as the shepherd guides and watches over his flocks
mythic function as the herald and messenger of the gods is not emphasized in worship, though he is a patron of heralds and ambassadors
oldest center of his worship: Arkadia birthplace; ancestor, having fathered the local heroes Evander, Myrtilos, and Aipytos, “of the heights” myth and cult tie him to mountain peaks, especially Kyllene Phares in Achaia: proper oracle + Hermes Agoraios (of the Marketplace) facing a hearth surrounded with lamps**
cults are most prominent on the Greek mainland: Attica, Boiotia, and the Peloponnese
archaic cult of Hermes centered on the hill/town Akakesion, etymologically related to the god’s Homeric epithet akake ̄ ta, “doing no wrong” or “benevolent”
the fourth day of the month (Hermes’ birthday in the Homeric Hymn to Hermes) was the day to present offerings of food, often figs or small cakes, at neighborhood herms.
Hermes was a “hungry” god, parodied in comedy as a food gobbler. His fondness for tasty food and drink is probably a reflection of his role as a provider of good things.
Hermes oversaw the operation of “poor man’s oracles,” that could be consulted by people who lacked the wherewithal to travel to a major oracle and offer sacrifices there; divined by casting knucklebones or other small objects and searching the resulting patterns for messages from the gods
Homeric Hymn to Hermes: the youthful god desired to share the prestige that his brother Apollo derived from Delphi, but had to be satisfied with a "lesser form of divination" involving the observation of bees.
**whoever wished to consult the oracle entered the agora at dusk, burned incense on the hearth, lit the lamps, and placed a coin on the altar. having whispered a question in the god’s ear, the petitioner covered his own ears so as to block out all sounds, and, once out of the agora, he unstopped his ears and received as the oracle the first phrases he heard
Hermes is “down to earth” (epichthonios), a deity who eschews the heavenly, watery, and underworld abodes in favor of the places inhabited by mortals. Hermes loves “to be a man’s companion.”
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As we know it from Anatolia, the system worked in the following way: a statue of Hermes was erected in the marketplace of a town. On the sides of these statues (which like many statues of Hermes were simple square pillars topped by the god’s head) were inscribed 56 oracles in verse, each of which was associated with a particular combination of numbers that one could obtain by rolling five dice at a time. In front of the statue was a table, on which lay astragaloi (four-sided dice made from sheep’s knucklebones). A passerby would pick up five astragaloi, roll them, note the combination of numbers they displayed and then look up the relevant oracle on the side of Hermes’ statue. Each oracle was “sponsored” by a particular divinity, whose name preceded it. Thus, rolling one six, three threes and a one, for instance, directed one to the name Heracles and the following advice: “The moment has not yet arrived, you make too much haste; do not act in vain nor like the bitch that has borne a blind puppy. Deliberate calmly and the god will lead you” (trans. Graf 2005: 88). It was up to the enquirer to figure out how these words applied to his situation, but we can imagine that freelance interpreters lingered around these spots, offering to clarify the oracle’s cryptic words for a fee.
Sarah Iles Johnston, Ancient Greek Divination
#sarah iles johnston#ancient greek divination#hermes#oracles#divination#anatolia#hellenic deities#quotes#astragaloi#dice#I like to imagine that hermes occasionally disguised himself as one of the freelance interpreters#to be helpful to people#or to mess with people#probably both
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Astragaloi
Astragaloi is a form of Ancient Greek divination using the knucklebones of a sheep. They can be real, or fake ones made from pottery, metal, or wood.
Numerical Value
The curved, small side is called “Chian.” It counts as a 1. The wide, convex side is called the “belly.” It counts as a 4. The wide concave, side is called the “back.” It counts as a 3. The flat small “S” shaped side counts as a 6.
Here is a visual to show you:
Throwing
The divination can be performed two ways. One way is to throw the same bone five times, using the first throw as the first number, the second as the second, and so on. Or, one could have five bones, and read them from left to right.
Interpretation
Each series of numbers has a name and an interpretation. They are as follows:
11111 - The Sky above Olympus: you will think well and find happiness in your work. But appease beauty (Aphrodite) and the messenger (Hermes).
11113 - Warlike Wisdom: By avoiding enmity and Animosity, you will reach your prize. The activity that you have in mind will turn out as you wish it.
41111 - Fate: Don’t do the business that you are engaged in; it will not turn out well. It will be difficult and impossible around someone who tires himself out. But if you go abroad for some time, no harm will come from it.
33111 - The Eagle: you will achieve your goal; do not fear.
61111 - The Largest Daimôn: It will be better to fulfill whatever vow you made to the daimôn, if you intend to perform what you ponder in your mind. You will be saved.
11143 - Caring Fortune: Do not do the business you are about to do.
33311 - Victory: you will win; you will take what you wish, and you will achieve everything; you will be honored, and you will overcome your enemies, the plan that you are about to realize will be according to your desire.
44111 - Joyful Victory: Do all your business because it will turn out well. The sick will be healed; and he who is in another country will return home.
41133 - Healing: A storm will come about your business, but it will turn out well; who is ill from his suffering will be freed, and safely home the one who is abroad will come.
11163 - Steering Fortune: Do not yet make haste to go; rather wait, if you set out to rush mindlessly, you will do great damage to yourself, but if you wait, blameless time will accomplish everything.
11164 - Beauty: Sail wherever you wish; you will return full of joy, for you have found and accomplished everything that you ponder in your mind; but pacify beauty (Aphrodite) and the messenger (Hermes).
13333 - Lightning’s Wisdom: you are fit for every business and ready for any undertaking. He who is ill will be saved.
33331 - The Seasons: the plan that you follow is not allowed, thus wait; it is terrible to walk into enmity, competition, and a trial.
13334 - The Sea: do not hasten to do business. Now is the wrong time.
61133 - The Daimôn: Do not project terrible things and think terrible thoughts. There will accrue no gain from it, and no reward will come from this path you are walking.
44411 - The Good Daimôn: you will be lead down a good path. You will return with rich fruit and an untroubled Fate.
13344 - The Savior, the Sky: Approach with courage the business that you set out to do; do it! You will win.
11166 - The Egyptian Sky: Undertake with courage the way you set out in your mind. you will accomplish whatever your mind tells you.
33333 - Fortune the Savior: The woman who has given birth to a child, had both breasts dry, but then she again flourished and has milk in abundance. Then you too will reap the fruits about which you ask.
43611 - The King of Hosts and Guests: Do not make haste with the business for which you set out, it is not yet time. Him who is ill will be saved, and and an end to the travel of him who is in foreign land will come.
63331 - The Strong Hero: The moment has not yet arrived, you make too much haste. Do not act in vain, nor like the dog that has borne a blind puppy. Act Deliberate calmly, and you will be lead rightly.
64411 - War: Why do you hurry? Wait calmly, the moment has not yet come; if you hurry without sense and in vain, you pursue something that is not yet ready. I do not yet see the right moment, but you will have success when you wait a little while.
43333 - Time: Scorpions stand in your way, do not hurry towards the business that you intend; wait, and what you wish will arrive later; neither to buy this nor to sell is better.
44413 - Music at Delphi: Do not make haste, it will not be better to go; when you wish to rush mindlessly, you will damage yourself very much; but when you stay put, blameless time will perform everything.
66113 - Marriage: The time is ripe for marriage; you will marry and return home. You will achieve whatever you want in your business, having found the thing about which you are anxious.
16634 - The Messenger, The Savior: I do not see anything painful among the things about which you ask me; do not think small, go forward with courage; you will find everything you wish: your vow will be fulfilled, and there is a perfect occasion for you.
44333 - The Sun: Take courage and fight. You will punish your opponent.
14444 - Revenge: now everything will be fulfilled and you will be lead the right way. You will perform everything according to your mind, do not wear yourself out anymore. You will achieve beautifully whatever you desire.
66114 - She Whom You Cannot Escape: Do your business and undertake it; the time will be favorable. In the middle, difficulties and danger are waiting. As to the other oracles, things will turn out well for you.
16443 - Lightning in the Sky: What you plan will not turn out according to your liking, when you do it; it is not useful to travel to foreign lands. You will show no insight if you sell now, nor will it be useful.
44433 - The Greatest Daimôn: I do not see this plan as safe for you; thus wait. You will do well, after this there will be luck; as for now remain calm, and stay helpful.
63333 - Good Time: Do not make haste, rather wait and do not act like a dog that gave birth to a blind litter. Take counsel calmly, and things will turn out happily for you.
66133 - Good Hope: Everything about which you ask me is smooth riding for you and safe; do not be afraid, the painful difficulties will end and you will disprove the suspicions.
44461 - The King of Possessions: Proceed with courage, the oracle is about hope; it announces also that the sick person will be saved. If you need to consult an oracle, you will receive what you desire.
34444 - The Messenger who Brings Gain in Trade: you will think of a good plan, undertake what you desire; you will find whatever you ask the oracle for, and nothing will be bad for you.
33364 - Victorious: You pronounce a good oracle, once you have thought it through, you will do whatever you desire; you will win, you will reap the fruits, and you will achieve everything.
44444 - Inexorable Fate: The sun has gone down, and terrible night has come, everything has become dark. Interrupt the matter about which you ask me; it is neither better to buy nor to sell.
43661 - The Moon: Do not undertake this business; it will not turn out well for you. One will help the one who is ill, and if there is any fear, nothing bad will happen to you.
63344 - The Protecting Boys of the Sky: A man who makes haste does not achieve what opportunity offers. You have a profit, and there is fear everywhere because of evil; your business is ill-fated, and everything is painful; watch out!
66611 - The Fire: It is impossible to do business; do not toil in vain! And do not turn every stone, lest you chance upon a scorpion. Fussiness will not bring you luck, be on your guard for all sorts of misfortune!
66441 - The Harvest: Everything about which you ask me is on a smooth way for you and safe; do not be afraid; I see nothing that will bring you harm; take heart and go forward.
44463 - The Sun, Bringer of Light: You will achieve whatever you desire, and you will find whatever you worry about. Make an attempt, having taken heart; everything is ready; you will find what is invisible, you will come to the day of salvation.
33366 - Fortune, who Leads to Good Things: Your matters are doing well; this oracle tells you to press forward; you will get away from difficult illness and master everything, and he who is erring in a foreign land will return.
16663 - The Manifest Fates: Do not put your hand into a wolf’s mouth, lest some harm happens to you; the matter about which you ask is difficult and delicate; but you stay quiet, avoiding travel and business transactions.
44446 - The Ocean: throwing seeds and writing letters on the sea are both pointless and fruitless doing.
43366 - Terrible War: Do not undertake the travel that you intend! Nobody will do it. A large fiery lion is about, against whom you have to be on your guard, a terrible one. The oracle is untractable, wait quietly.
16664 - Wisdom: Honor wisdom (Athena), and you will get everything, whatever you wish, and everything which you are planning will turn out well; she will free from bonds and will save the sick person.
66443 - Happiness: Sail, wherever you want, you will return home again, having found and done everything according to your wish; you will achieve everything, and thus to buy and to trade is happiness.
66633 - The Music of Delphi: Stay put, do not act, obey oracles. With time, you will find an occasion, but for now stay quiet. If you wait a short while you will achieve everything, whatever you desire.
44466 - Time, the Eater of Children: Stay at home with your possessions and do not go somewhere else, lest a terrible monster and a revengeful demon approach you. I do not see this business as reliable and safe.
46663 - The Moon, who Brings Light: Take courage; you have an opportunity; you will achieve what you desire, and you will come upon the right time to begin your travel; your toil will have its chance; is is good to engage in work, competitions and litigation.
66661 - Mother of Gods: As wolves overpower sheep and powerful lions overpower broad hoofed oxen, so you too will master all this, and everything about which you ask will be yours.
66644 - Thunder of the Underwold: The business has its obstacles, do not make haste, but wait; there is a road, painful, impossible and not to be approached; to buy is painful and to sell brings loss.
66663 - Heavenly Beauty: a good oracle, travel to you will be granted; you will escape from sickness and vainglorious thoughts.
66664 - Damage: It is impossible to undertake something vain; do not in vain toil uselessly, lest you incur damage by pressing on. It is not good to begin traveling nor doing business.
66666 - The Square Messenger: Do not go, wherever you intend to; it will be better for you to stay; I see something hostile to you, thus wait; afterwards, it will be possible, and you will be freed from fear and saved from toil.
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So I handmade myself some astragaloi for divination with Apollon! Astragaloi were the knucklebones of goats, cows and sheep that in Ancient Greece were used for divination and playing games. Basically each side of the bone is prescribed a number. The numbers added together then relate to a letter of the Greek alphabet, which is then used for divination.* I used clay to sculpt the knucklebones (clay and glass versions are actually traditional as well, and in my opinion more desirable than bone) and then painted them gold. I then consecrated them ritualistically with offerings to Apollon. I plan to use them for divination in the future! I’ll make a tutorial on how to make these guys if anyone is interested. They’re fairly easy to make. *For more information on this, John Opsopaus’ “The Oracles of Apollo” has been a fantastic resource for me for divination with Apollon.
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A Bacchic Orphic still-life.
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Terracotta figure of two women playing astragaloi (knucklebones).
There was a version of the game, called the Aphrodite throw, which was said to predict the odds of the thrower getting married. It’s suggested that these were placed in the graves of unmarried women in the hopes they would find love in the afterlife.
Love that the paint can still be seen on this, too :)
Made in Capua, c. 330-300 BCE.
#women#woman#knucklebones#ancient greek#ancient italy#terracotta#statuette#original photography#ancientprettythings
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Masterlist of my posts
Demeter
🌾Demeter epithets
🌾Orphic Hymn to Demeter
🌾Demeter's island; Sicily
🌾Homeric Hymn to Demeter excerpts: Hades' speech to His wife, hard for mortals to see, reunion Demeter and her daughter, Hades abducting Persephone, the unwillingness of Persephone
🌾Prayer request to Demeter, written by @theoiprayers / @arrowoferos
🌾Adeia, a modern festival for Demeter, collab with @thegrapeandthefig, #adeiafestival + 2023 update
🌾Chthonia, an annual festival to Demeter in Hermione
Hekate
🌿Hekate epithets; terrifying, soft, animal-centered, protective
🌿Restless Dead: Hekate as a magicians goddess
Eleusis
🌿Lesser Mysteries
🌿Eleusinian Mysteries: day 1, day 2, day 3, day 4, day 5, day 6, day 7, day 8 (the Charge), day 9
Artemis
🌿Potnia Theron: Mistress of Animals
Nymphs
🌿What is a Nymph?
🌿30 days of devotion, Nymphs: day 1, day 2, day 3, day 4, day 5, day 6, day 7, day 8, day 9
🌿Astragaloi, divination of nymphs
Poetry
🌿'Circe', poem by Nikita Gill
🌿'Odysseus', poem by Adonis
Photography
🌿Ploutonion, Eleusis, Greece
🌿Telesterion, Eleusis, Greece
🌿Akropolis, Athens, Greece
🌿Shrine of Nymphe, Athens, Greece
🌿Fontana di Diana, Ortigia, Sicily
🌿Tempio di Apollo, Ortigia, Sicily
+ bonus: Efteling, the Netherlands
#helpol#hellenic reconstructionism#demeter worship#hekate worship#eleusinian mysteries#odyssey#masterpost#will be added onto as i write more#Artemis worship#Nymphai worship#Circe#Demeter#Artemis#Persephone#Hades#Demeter deity#Hades deity#Persephone deity#Artemis deity#Hekate deity#hellenic polytheism
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