#assumed me to be nonbinary
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acting like nonbinary passing is a thing forprivileged nonbinary people.
this is exorsexism.
nonbinary passing does not exist, for anyone. even if nonbinary is your only marginalised identity, no one is going to correctly assume that you are nonbinary in a society that doesn't recognise nonbinary people the same way it does men and women.
as a visibly disabled and fat enby, i've been excluded from gender and overly gendered by different people, and conventional androgyny doesn't represent me.
however, the nonbinary people who do have access to conventional androgyny, i.e. abled, thin, white nonbinary people, still don't have access to nonbinary passing - because no one does.
having your gender expression recognised isn't the same as having your gender recognised. like, at all. it's why feminine men aren't magically recognised as women and masculine women aren't magically recognised as men. the most androgynous nonbinary people only have the option to be seen as androgynous men or women, not as nonbinary. gender and gender expression are two different things and being able to express your gender how you want does not equal passing, especially when there is no such thing as passing for nonbinary people. most people don't even know nonbinary people exist. we cannot be seen as something that people don't know even exists, even if we starve ourselves and cure all our disabilities.
"the more privilege you have, the easier it is to pass as your gender" is only true for binary genders, i.e. genders that society actually recognises. no amount of privilege can undo the deep-seated nonbinary erasure that leads to our consistent misgendering.
multiply marginalised nonbinary people will experience exorsexism very differently from privileged nonbinary people, but no amount of privilege can make nonbinary passing a thing that exists. we need to talk about how marginalisations affect nonbinary experience without completely erasing a core part of exorsexist oppression that is universal to all of us.
acting as if nonbinary passing could be a thing for any nonbinary person in our current society is exorsexist in itself by dismissing the fact that nonbinarity itself is not recognised as a valid category by mainstream society.
#nonbinary#exorsexism#this is exorsexism#as much as i like to shit talk abled thin people#there's not a single case of an abled thin nonbinary person actually passing as nonbinary in every day life in any sort of consistent way#and being equally misgendered both ways also isn't passing#i hate people acting like access to androgyny/ambiguity equals nonbinary passing because even when i was smaller there was no way anyone#assumed me to be nonbinary
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This is my petition for people who create pins/stickers/other things with "she/they" & "he/they" to also include "she/he". I'm kind of sick of being excluded, and I'm sure there are plenty of others who feel the same.
#trans#transgender#genderfluid#bigender#nonbinary#non binary#multigender#polygender#pangender#she/he#he/she#pronouns#talking lollie#anyways. people should maybe share this around#kinda sick of going to cons & seeing my pronoun set excluded#and also everyone assuming all nb people use they/them in some form#particularly when other people try to correct either someone else or themself to they/them for me#like mate... ive literally never used they/them#she/her and he/him aint dirty. please dont act like it.
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this would happen
#simon petrikov#betty grof#petrigrof#I JUST THINK THE IDEA OF BETTY ASSUMING THAT SIMON KNOWS THIS ABOUT HIMSELF IS REALLY FUNNY#they've probably been together for at least a year at the point of this comic#I adore the characterisation of betty where she knows things that simon doesnt and either#- doesnt tell him because its funnier that way OR#- just assumes that he already knows#adventure time#fionna and cake#adventure time fanart#petrigrof fanart#simon x betty#nonbinary#nonbinary simon#non-binary simon#petrigrof yuri#accessible art#described art#this came to me in a dream (blatant lie) and I scribbled it out in like 7 minutes because I needed a warmup to work on a commission#and I had to share. somebody help me
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Quick tip: If a trans passing guide is focused on thinness, whiteness, or getting rid of anything about yourself that is "too clockable" (regardless of if that thing about yourself makes you happy), maybe it isn't worth fretting about, since it is clearly coming from a homogenized idea of what passing looks like
#trans#transgender#lgbt#lgbtq#ftm#mtf#nonbinary#dysphoria tw#for me it's a red flag when those guides assume you're thin and white or at least strive to be/be like that#(coming from a thin white person who was like that pre/post transition)#like for me i also don't like when people almost blame trans people when they don't pass or like... they've Failed Being Trans#i'm begging young trans people to not be swept up in the idea that passing is being thin and white and pretty#and that if you're fat/not white/not conventionally attractive you might as well admit you've Failed at Being Trans#because all that is a load of shit#while trans people owe NOBODY passing you also aren't prevented from passing because you aren't the 'cookie-cutter' expectation
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on the subject of transphobia
can we stop fucking assuming that every nonbinary person is transmasc or transfemme?
this is the biggest peeve I have with this whole transmisogyny vs transandrophobia debate -- y'all are so busy arguing about transmasc vs transfemme and the nonbinary or intersex people who don't identify with either of those terms are completely left in the dirt
let's not create yet another binary, yeah?
#transmisogyny#transandrophobia#i saw someone describing Nex Benedict as transmasc and it left a sour taste in my mouth#correct me if i'm wrong but they were nonbinary and that's all we know#transandrogyny and transneutral exist guys#vent#EDIT: nex is confirmed transmasc now but my point still stands#that people were assuming that before we knew ANYTHING about them
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sometimes its really obvious how much people dont actually believe presentation=/=gender when they see their nonbinary friend go from extremely masculine to relaxing back into femininity once theyre comfortable with their gender and every time they call it detransitioning with zero indication thats what their friend is calling it. i dont know how to tell you this but sometimes you present a certain way for social reasons and not because thats how you actually feel. sometimes you experience dysphoria about your body that is actually related to how people view you and not how you feel about your body. i really dont think its that uncommon for trans people to swing really hard in one direction for the affirmation and then relax back into a different presentation once they are more comfortable in their gender
#txt#gekkering#idk how to word this but genuinely if you see your friend growing more comfortable in their body and presentation and assume theyre detransi#tioning without them telling you that you should be ashamed and i hope your friend finds someone who is more accepting of experiences they d#dont personally relate to#butch trans women exist femme trans men exist and very masculine AND very feminine nonbinary people exist#i hated my body most of all when i focused on how other people view me. and before anyone accuses me of anything not that you need to but i#do have other dysphoria but its not NEARLY as severe as when i was younger and was obsessed with how other people gendered me#and if that does still bother you thats okay im not saying people who arent bothered by being misgendered are unreasonable or should get ove#r it or anything#but THATS why sometimes your dysphoria from when you first came out can drastically contradict the way you present later in life#such as transmasc people no longer wanting to bind or transfem people no longer wanting to tuck
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The gods are beautiful, and beauty has no gender.
#helpol#hellenic polytheism#hellenic pagan#this is kind of commentary on how gods can assume any form they like#gender probably means little to them in that way lol#it's a statement that brings me comfort as a nonbinary-masc individual
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so anyway I love these two dorks with all my heart
#ignore the fact that the tie is way too long and not at all tie shaped for me pls#THIS TOOK FOREVERRR but im soo happy with how it came out#flippaky has my heart fullstop#theyre so cute what the HELL#comic#my art#htf flippy#htf flaky#htf comic#happy tree friends#flippaky#htf flippaky#flippy x flaky#flaky x flippy#also pls dont ask me how the spines work with the clothes XD#lets assume theyre just stabbing through and theyre okay with that#nonbinary#trans#pride month#happy tree friends comic#ship art#ship comic
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I’ve seen so many people saying that “of course the straight couple get the happy ending” (meaning ineffable bureaucracy), am I missing something? I thought Beelzebub was nonbinary ? Did I make this up in my head, or have people just forgotten because of the actor swap?
#they’re not straight in my eyes?#i know angels and demons don’t have genders in the same way as humans#but obviously some present as male/female/nonbinary#and I thought beelzebub was considered nonbinary or genderless#maybe this bugs me because I’m femme presenting but nonbinary and people assume that if I date a man it’s a straight relationship#which is just not true lol#anyways!!#someone let me know if I’m wrong because I’m confused now#em rambles#good omens#good omens spoilers#good omens beelzebub#ineffable bureaucracy#good omens michael
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do you still consider yourself trans or not? sorry if this question is weird ive always been interested in how people view their gender :3
no its okay! i don’t consider myself trans anymore because i am not really changing anything about myself or wanting to be perceived in any way other than female. i don’t necessarily consider myself a woman, it’s silly but honestly “lesbian” is my gender haha
but i make the active decision to present as feminine even if whatever intrinsic homosexuality is in my body+mind causes me to constantly be perceived as trans by those who don’t know me LOL
#so many people at my college assume i’m nonbinary and automatically use theythem for me even if i tell them im a sheher#i guess even among cis women theres always going to be something about me that doesnt reallt work within that. social role or something#even if i choose it#idk! its interesting#i hope i worded this okay. i dont talk about my gender ablot publicly bc im afraid of terf freaks trying to#use me as an example for their bullshit arguments
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How did you figure out you're aromantic?
Oh, god, what a short question for such a long process, hahaha. First off, didn't figure it out until recently, age 27, but here was the approximate (and very truncated in the amount of internal conflict and introspection involved) step-by-step process:
Figured out I was queer in high school because I felt the same way about women as I did about men! Spent about 5 years thinking I was bisexual.
Figured out that I'm not actually attracted to men when I read a post describing the experience of compulsory heterosexuality and related with it intensely, which was a very freeing experience. Spent 6 years thinking I was a (nonbinary) lesbian!
Hooked up at parties a couple of times out of curiosity and then took up my best friend's offer to fuck and realized that I got the same amount of skin-crawling distaste about that as I did about sexual contact with men, thus realizing I was ace.
Let that domino tip over into the, "Actually, identifying as gay has for a long time given me the same anxiety as I used to feel when I thought I'd have to date a man, and also I'm 27 years old and have never, ever actually wanted to date another human being. When people ask me what my ideal partner is like, I start listing off ways in which they should not bother me or demand my time or be part of my life. Maybe I just don't want... anyone." domino, and the subsequent "I'M FREE!! (from trying to date women)" euphoria was identical to the "I'M FREE!! (from trying to date men)" euphoria, so.
That's where I'm at!
I'm a generally introspective person, but I'm also really great at gaslighting myself into ignoring my own discomfort, so largely it's been, haha, a diagnosis of exclusion. First I excluded men, then the discomfort with women grew large enough that I was able to exclude them as well. Reading about other people's experiences and realizing where they paralleled my own was immensely helpful! So was being close friends with a very poly person who slowly and fully unintentionally changed my perspective on how I view relationships in a very poly-and-relationship-anarchy-as-default way, which incidentally is extremely compatible with aroace queerplatonic ideals and definitely softened me up to be ready to accept that particular realization.
Also, please let this be a sign that just because you identify with one "thing" doesn't mean that you're committing to it forever! <3
#ask#personal#Anonymous#hilariously enough the gender thing was way easier#I basically tripped into it by accident by gleefully ““hiding”” my pronouns from people for a long time#until I hit social circles that just fully assumed that meant that I was nonbinary and I was like “oh... I can DO that?”#YOU HEARD OF ASSIGNED GENDER AT BIRTH NOW I BRING YOU ASSIGNED NONBINARY IN COLLEGE LMAO#sexuality#aroace#aro#hope this helped anon! everyone's journey is different#there are a lot of things I can look back on that were Definite Signs#including amusingly me thinking the concept of aromanticism was STUPID because “what they are describing is just what EVERYONE is like”
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like god some people are obsessed with whether you’re a Vagina Trans or a Penis Trans and if you’re nonbinary they’re like “okay! we will assume!” and like this isn’t exclusive to any “group” of trans people I'm not happy with people categorising my experiences as transmasc or transfem based on what they assume is in my pants regardless of which one they choose or if it’s to paint me as an evil Other Trans or the safe Same Trans. i'm neither. it’s an issue with the whole trans community and it sucks. being asked to centre your entire identity on whether you’re a Vagina Haver or a Penis Haver is fucking weird. (not to mention excluding intersex people!!!) and whenever anyone brings it up they’re like “oh so you hate transmascs and or transfems?” like NO?? i do not hate a group bc i would like to not be forcibly categorised under one without my consent solely going by whether people think I have Vagina Energy or Penis Energy. i can relate a lot to both transfem and transmasc experiences but i'm neither of them. no matter what’s in my pants. when did the trans community get so obsessed with what’s in your pants it’s fucking wild.
#and like I need to say this again this isn’t to excuse transmisogyny or transphobia towards trans men or whatever#if you assume any nonbinary person uncomfortable with being boxed into a group based on being a Vagina Haver or a Penis Haver#is doing so because they hate transmascs and or transfems#You just hate nonbinary people I’m sorry#Like. Can you please stop trying to categorise me under one of two ways of misgendering please#I am not transmasc or transfem. I am transneutral and I will bite you if you place me in either#Stop assuming I’m inherently a Vagina Trans or a Penis Trans#and stop assuming either makes me essentially a man or a woman just delusional about it#Like. Jesus fucking christ.#Exorsexism
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if i hear one more person unironically identifying themself as afab or amab I'm gonna start biting
#theres times where it's useful to delineate (e.g. talking about the ways nb people are treated depending on which sex they're assumed to be#born with)#(tho i would argue that it's not agab per se but rather assumed current sex)#but PLEASE can i stop seeing people earnestly calling themselves ''afab nonbinary''#OR ALSO implying that they have some innate understanding of womanhood based on how they were raised#I've come across a bunch of nonbinary spaces online#where it's maybe 90% self-identified afab people#and they always have this undertone of ''well‚ we're not women‚ but we Understand™️ by virtue of our assigned sex''#which‚ maybe it's just me‚ but it always implies that trans women & transfems somehow are barred from understanding misogyny#bc of the fact that they were raised as boys & don't have the right body parts#(the ''''right'''' body parts lemme be clear)#um yeah basically my whole issue with it (other than that it's basically recreating the gender binary‚ including the ''inexorably tied to#biological sex'' part)#is that it misgenders transmascs & trans men (me lol thats why i get angy abt it) by implying we have some sort of inherent connection to#womanhood by virtue of our sex at birth#and also feeds into the exact thing that terfs like to say; that trans women will never really understand sexism & that they're interlopers#bc they ''are amab'' / ''are male fakers''#anyway.#o.#trans#transsexual#transgender#afab#amab#agab#transphobia#transmisogyny#<- these guys mostly for the stuff in the tags in case people have those blocked & don't wanna hear me talking abt it#transmasc#transfem
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Important tip for trans men/transmascs/whoever needs the reminder: Even if you pass as a man to cis people, you still need to have either some form of self-protection on you (e.g., mace, knives (if you can use them effectively), ect.) or know some form of self-defense. Please take it from me, you don't know what will happen out there at any given time.
You might assume that if you pass as a cis man to cis people, you will be safe from any harm. While I wish that were true, it simply isn't the world most of us live in. Please do whatever you can to protect yourself out there.
#trans#transgender#lgbt#lgbtq#ftm#nonbinary#ask to tag (genuine)#there's this idea that once you start passing as a man as a trans guy* that all your worries about attacks... disappear...#...but i'm going to be real my fears of being followed/sexually harassed/heckled/ect have increased by double...#...and i never felt the need to have self-protection before (which was kind of foolish even if i felt certain i was physically safe)...#...but honestly i think i really ought to start investing in this shit the more i pass#anyway please learn from my mistakes ♡#i talk about this a lot but it is a life-or-death level of importance to me#yes this goes for all trans people...#...i just call out other trans guys specifically because so many of us assume or are told we're immune to this type of violence
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asking people their pronouns is the bare minimum of trans acceptance and it's something we've had to drag cis people kicking and screaming into doing. where the fuck do you get off throwing all that progress out the window because you like it when people are mean to you actually
#atlas entry#I can't be the only one who remembers when contrapoints got in hot water for this exact same thing#blaming nonbinary people for the concept of cis people asking you your pronouns because now people can't just “tell”#as if trans liberation ever involved people being able to “tell” your gender by looking at you#how are you going to say you support nonbinary people and then advocate for people to misgender them because you think people should assume#your pronouns based on your appearance. sorry my preferred pronouns are they/them and if you call me she because you think I look like a#woman you are misgendering me. again I just don't get this whole “no one can know I'm trans” thing#you know there's a difference between someone seeing a tall woman and thinking “that's a trans woman” and someone seeing a tall woman and#thinking “that's a man”. I feel like so many people treat those like they're the exact same thing and it's like hm why do you view someone#identifying you as a trans woman as identifying you as a man? sounds like you have some internalized shit to deal with babes#in the meantime don't make it everyone else's problem by bullying cis people into reinforcing gendered norms surrounding appearance
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getting correctly gendered by someone who doesn’t even know you’re trans is so euphoric to me
#like someone who had only ever seen me once and never really spoken to me called me he and guy#and it made me so happy#like yes!! i am a he!! and i am a guy!! thanks for acknowledging that#i’m not a guy in the traditional sense per se#and i don’t like being called a man#but just a little guy… that’s definitely me#and idk since i’m pretty dysphoric about how i’m perceived and i fairly often just assume ppl assume i’m a woman#it was so refreshing that someone just… proved me wrong about that!!#even after i had spoken a few words he still used he! not sure how much he heard but STILL#whenever someone hears my voice they tend to misgender me#and idk maybe it was bc he might’ve not heard a lot but… still#idk it’s a small victory and it just made me happy and euphoric#trans#transgender#transmasc#nonbinary#lgbtq#queer#atlas the thinker#personal
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