#asoiaf bs

[ladyaryawolf]

Don't take thing out of context. You know exactly where these posts came from. It wasnt "unprovoked". It all started with a beef you guys always come every once in a blue moon. I am in this fandom for five years. And in every year you rabbid sansa stans always pick up a fight over this exact same topic and play the victim later on when Arya stans react.

This is the post that started all these posts.

@rightwheretheyleftme only did a copy paste based on your colleague post, switching the names from Arya to Sansa. It was you who started that shit. But playing a victim and being hypocrital has always been a part of stansas behavior. And always will be.

I find impressive. I leave the fandom for a while, and it is always the same thing. No matter how much time it passed.

[inwinterhell]

Catelyn describing the southern rain:

"...soft and warm. Catelyn liked the feel of it on her face, gentle as a mother's kisses. It took her back to her childhood, to long grey days at Riverrun."

Ned describing the southern rain:

"It beat down on Ned's head, warm as blood and relentless as old guilts."

Ned really does not miss the chance to describe how much he fucking hates everything about this place, does he?

[amaltheas-garden]

so are condal & co making the unironic claim that Targaryens have the divine right of kings cause Aeg I had an ice zombie nightmare 100 years ago...

god forbid a woman go to war because she wants power i guess

[chippedcupwrites]

sansa/arya/dany, your stans could never make me hate the other two of you 💞✨

[ladyaryawolf]

@thelustybraavosimaid ma'am, I absolutely LOVE you

They are so real (+correct) for posting this

[cl0ud-ninex]

Babes, I need to tell you something...

If you're one of the 'DaNy StAnS' who believe that Dany has to die to fulfill some bittersweet/tragic ending while also wanting the other characters especially the Starks to live happy health lives and become kings and queens you're not a real Dany stan.

You're just a Daenerys anti. The only difference between you and the antis is that the antis are more honest about how they actually feel about her.

[laurellerual]

I saw someone repeat for the umpteenth time that Arya's endgame is being consumed by revenge and dying alone in the snow with Needle locked between her frozen fingers. BUT the thing that left me perplexed is seeing her list defined as "ever growing"...

People, do you know how long it's been since Arya's list grown with a new name? Literally it doesn't happen since book 2!!

[ladyaryawolf]

Something really annoying on Dany antis, a lot of Jon Stans and Jonsas...

They portray Jon like a saint. And Jon Stans treat the character like they are in some kind of cult and Jon like he is a messiah.

"Oooh, Jon would never like someone so vile and cruel. Poor Jon Snow. Patron of the innocent and powerless. Would never hurt a soul..."

I mean... Have we read the same books?

[inwinterhell]

There’s something about Sansa and running that is so precious to me, because like, in King’s Landing:

“Sansa sat up. "Lady," she whispered. For a moment it was as if the direwolf was there in the room, looking at her with those golden eyes, sad and knowing. She had been dreaming, she realized. Lady was with her, and they were running together, and… and… trying to remember was like trying to catch the rain with her fingers. The dream faded, and Lady was dead again.

“Sansa tried to run, but Cersei's handmaid caught her before she'd gone a yard. Ser Meryn Trant gave her a look that made her cringe, but Kettleblack touched her almost gently and said, "Do as you're told, sweetling, it won't be so bad. Wolves are supposed to be brave, aren't they?"

“That was such a sweet dream, Sansa thought drowsily. She had been back in Winterfell, running through the godswood with her Lady. Her father had been there, and her brothers, all of them warm and safe. If only dreaming could make it so . . .”

Then, in TWOW Alayne:

“They made a race of it, dashing headlong across the yard and past the stables, skirts flapping, whilst knights and serving men alike looked on, and pigs and chickens scattered before them. It was most unladylike, but Alayne sound found herself laughing. For just a little while, as she ran, she forget who she was, and where, and found herself remembering bright cold days at Winterfell, when she would race through Winterfell with her friend Jeyne Poole, with Arya running after them trying to keep up.”

Something something running is freedom to her, and the way she associates it with Lady, and how she stops giving a shit whether it’s ladylike or not…it’s personal okay! I just love to see a girl running free after so long.

[mariuspompom]

I just LOVE how both in got and hotd we have established that the root of all evil is women who *checks notes* enjoy sex! consistency is important right? I mean GOD FORBID we genuinely root for anyone that isn't nEd FuCKinG sTark the paragon of big dick masculine honor! who are we gonna root for? a flagrant philanderer that started the war because she's a whore? pwease

but at least they're criticizing monarchy you guyzzz hashtag anti war hashtag subversion!! definitely promising!! never been done before!!!

[fromtheseventhhell]

Very funny to me how Stansas present her character as being so interesting and complex because of her vulnerabilities, while simultaneously ignoring those same vulnerabilities in other characters. Dany is sold as a bridal slave and lacks agency throughout AGOT and after. Her dragons are either too young/small to utilize effectively or locked away for the majority of the story. They aren't some all-powerful trump card that protects her from harm. Arya is captured as a prisoner of war, forced to watch countless people tortured and murdered, and then essentially enslaved in Harrenhal with no way to fight back. She has an entire arc of feeling powerless, of being a "mouse", during ACOK. She doesn't have "kung-fu" or the ability to magically fight her way out of every situation, she's a young child lacking physical strength with only the most basic sword training.

Sansa isn't the only female character, she isn't the only young character, she isn't the only character who suffered, and no one is obligated to prioritize her. I'm so tired of Dany and Arya being mischaracterized and having their stories erased to prop Sansa up. "Sansa has kept her dignity" In other words, let's praise her for having a level of security that Dany and Arya don't have access to. She hasn't ever been forced to make a hard decision which of course means that she's morally superior to them. They can't even admit to themselves that her lack of action is due to her own passivity. If it doesn't fit their delusion, they erase it from the story and expect the rest of us to play along. Ask one of them what they like about her character without bringing up her being the ultimate victim, and I genuinely don't believe they'd be able to give you an answer. They belittle other characters more than they talk about her and these takes just scream insecurity/jealousy at the content and development other characters have in their POVs.

[oflorelei]

How it feels to be in the asoiaf fandom when you are lowkey a chill guy, don't get the weird "stan" movement, don't involve yourself in shipping drama and just rant a lil every tuesday but otherwise enjoy yourself:

[pixiecactus]

you have to admit that's almost funny (not really; i think that the word that actually fits is "frustrating") that of the two stark daughters, the one that lacks positive female relationships in her life is arya, not the other way around.

but they always depict sansa with arya as a positive relationship, and it seems that the only one she has, when, first, it has never been the case for them, and second, do they know that sansa actually has female friends, like jeyne poole, beth cassel, margaery tyrell (oh right, they hate her and her family) and... myranda royce?

arya doesn't even know how to handle a sword correctly for fuck's sakes. and i don't know, maybe this is just me, but the only person i see willing to give their life in an effort to protect their favourite girl sansa is, you know, sandor "the hound" clegane. (oh right, they hate him too)

[jessescatorccio]

why is it that alicent and sansa are given the interiority no one ever has for rhaenyra and dany. why are they the long-suffering chessmasters while rhaenyra and dany are the warmongering power hungry whores. as though rhaenyra and dany have not suffered at all and are not intelligent or have any political savvy. like bffr

[lady-green-sleeves]

If Alicent had slept with Viserys the night of Aemma’s funeral like Rhaenyra and Daemon did the night of Laena’s funeral you all would be calling her so much worse than Alicunt and going on and on about how awful and gross and evil she is even more than you already do. But when Rhaenyra does it she’s a girl boss and you’re cheering her on bc somehow that makes her a feminist…..🤡

[myimaginationplain]

Imagine genuinely going: "only MY favorite character is allowed to like flowers and be seen with flower imagery. her sister being drawn with flowers is STEALING!!1!1!" Like that's a real point of contention for you. wtf is going on with #that side of the fandom.

Yes, Arya does indeed like flowers. Sansa also likes flowers. Most people like flowers in some capacity. It's not some super-special hyper-individualist personality trait, lmao.

(In my opinion, Arya cataloging the different species of flower she sees on the Kingsroad & being willing to get dirty picking flowers for Eddard is mostly about her inherent connection to & comfort within nature. Arya paid attention to the flowers, yes, but she also paid attention to the animals & the trees & the mud. She’s the Maiden of the Tree. But Arya's connections to these other parts of nature are rarely emphasized the way her connection to flowers is, because they can't be used to over-state her femininity. It's extremely obvious that's what's happening here & I hate hate hate it.)